So basically what that means is we could say okay well let's put Adobe here between S and 80 right just as an example um that would mean okay in 10 or 20 years time we believe Adobe will be still existing and will be a stronger company than today
and then we also have a value today tier list where simultaneously to some extent we'll discuss the same companies but with the premise of saying well do we believe Adobe will be a good company in the next I would say Sean give me your thoughts but I would say like one to four years.