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Adobe具有吸引人的风险回报特征;尽管面临领导层交接风险以及低成本竞争带来的利润率压力,但营收增长加速和强劲的股票回购使其成为良好的长期持有标的。

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Asymmetric Investing by Travis Hoium发布 2026-09-03 · 16 段内容
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这四只股票是 Adobe、MGM Resorts、Dick's Sporting Goods 和 Lyft。

Those four stocks are Adobe, MGM Resorts, Dick Sporting Goods, and Lyft.

其中之一是 Adobe。Adobe 是否存在增长问题?目前看来似乎并非如此。总收入继续以大约 10%、11%、12% 的增长率增长。实际上,在过去几个季度中,这一增长率还在加速。这确实是个好迹象。

One of them is Adobe. is there a growth problem with Adobe? Well, it doesn't really appear to be the case right now. Total revenue continues to grow at about a 10, 11, 12% growth rate. So that's actually accelerating over the past couple of quarters. That's really good to see.

让我们深入研究 Adobe,先从公司统计数据开始,因为我认为这是你开始看到价值的地方,而且大约两个月前(6 月份)价值其实更好一些。自那以来,股价上涨了约 50%。

let's dig into Adobe and let's start with the company statistics because I think this is where you start to see the value and this was actually a little bit better value about 2 months ago in June. Shares are up about 50% since then.

因此,Adobe 有很多复苏的机会。在他们寻找新任 CEO 的过程中,还有很多问题有待解答,领导层中也有很多新人,但由于所有这些不确定性,估值相当有吸引力。

So there's a lot of opportunity to recover for Adobe. a lot of questions yet to answer as they look for a new CEO and a lot of people new people in their leadership ranks but the valuation is pretty compelling because of all that uncertainty.

因此,按滚动市盈率计算,市盈率约为 17 倍;按远期市盈率计算,仅为约 11 倍;按远期价格对自由现金流计算,也约为 11 倍。仅凭这一点,他们就可以用每季度产生的现金回购近 10% 的流通股。

So price to earnings multiple on a trailing basis is about 17 on a forward basis so only about 11 price of free cash flow on a forward basis also about 11. So just that alone they could buy back nearly 10% of their shares outstanding with the cash that they're generating each quarter.

他们的资产负债表也相当稳健。资产负债表上有一点净债务,但企业价值目前约为 1180 亿美元。我们是否看到任何迹象表明 Adobe 的业务正在放缓?目前没有。我认为这正是投资者需要密切关注的地方。

这一点让我印象深刻。在最近一个季度,增长实际上在加速。因此,这不一定是你对一家可能被人工智能或 Canva 等低成本产品颠覆的公司的预期。

Their balance sheet also pretty solid. got a little bit of net debt on the balance sheet, but the enterprise value is about $118 billion today. Do we see any sort of signs that Adobe's business is slowing down? Right now, we don't. And that's what I think investors really need to keep an eye on. This one really popped out to me. In the most recent quarter, growth is actually accelerating. So, this is not necessarily what you would expect from a company that is potentially going to be disrupted by artificial intelligence or lowerc cost products like Canva.

相反,你开始看到 Adobe 的收入增长开始回升。现在,为了推动部分收入增长,挑战之一是他们是否必须为此牺牲利润率。他们表示将进入一些低成本产品领域,并进一步扩展其高端产品。因此,这是一个潜在风险。

你开始看到毛利率开始略有下降。营业利润率也出现同样情况,在最近一个季度降至约 33.8%。因此,这是你需要关注的事情。

Instead, you're starting to see Adobe start to pick up its revenue growth. Now, to drive some of that revenue growth, one of the challenges is are they going to have to give up margin to do that. They've said that they're going to go into some of these lowerc cost products, expand their premium products a little bit more. So that is a potential risk. You start to see these gross margins start to come down just a little bit. Operating margin is doing the same down to about 33.8% in the most recent quarter. So that is something that you want to keep an eye on.

但如果你能将收入增长保持在相当稳定的两位数水平,并维持合理的利润率,这可能是一家长期值得拥有的好公司。

But if you're able to keep that revenue growth at a pretty steady double-digit pace and maintain reasonably good margins, this can be a really good company to own long term.

这是他们自 2017 年以来按年化基础产生的自由现金流。你可以看到,按年化基础计算,自由现金流现在已增加了一点,超过一百万美元。

This is the free cash flow they've generated on an annualized basis going all the way back to 2017. So you can see that free cash flow has increased now a little bit over million dollars on an annualized basis.

嗯,他们越来越多地做的事情之一是回购股票,2024 财年为 95 亿美元。2025 财年这一数字升至 113 亿美元。过去 12 个月为 90 亿美元。因此,他们开始回购越来越多的股票。而这是在股票估值开始下降的情况下发生的。

Well, one of the things that they're doing more and more is buying back stock 9.5 billion in fiscal 2024. Fiscal 2025 that bumps up to 11.3 billion. Now 9 billion over the past 12 months. So they are starting to buy back more and more of their stock. And this is as the valuation of the stock starts to come down.

因此,如果业务确实好转,如果增长率继续保持在 10% 到 15% 的范围内,并且利润率在这个过程中没有被破坏,那么这将是一个非常有利的位置,因为你通过回购股票所做的是提高业务中的杠杆,即你作为投资者的财务杠杆。

So this is a really nice position to be if the business does turn around, if this growth rate continues to be in that 10 to 15% range and if margins don't get destroyed in the process because what you're doing by buying back shares is improving the leverage in the in the business, the financial leverage that you have as an investor.

Adobe 面临的一个大问题是,他们未来的领导层会是什么样子。他们的长期 CEO 今年早些时候宣布将卸任。他们正在寻找替代者,但整个高管团队中可能有很多人会变动,而且关于他们未来将采取什么战略,存在很多问题。

One of the big questions that Adobe has for them is what is their leadership going to look like in the future. Their longtime CEO announced earlier this year that he is going to be stepping down. They're looking for a replacement, but there's a whole suite of people that are likely to turn over in that sea suite, and there's a lot of questions about what they're going to do for the strategy in the future.

他们会继续现有的战略,即尝试持续销售席位吗?会不会有更多按使用付费的模式?这种模式在人工智能方面更有意义。嘿,我需要这张图片。我会为这张图片支付特定金额。这可能成为未来的商业模式的一部分。你会不会把这两种方式融合在一起?

Are they going to continue the existing strategy where you're trying to sell seats on an ongoing basis? Is there going to be more of a pay as you play kind of a model? That makes more sense with artificial intelligence. Hey, I need to have this image. I will pay a specific amount for this image. That could be part of the business model going forward. Do you kind of fuse those two things together?

Adobe 做得非常好的一件事是大约十年前转向 SaaS 模式,但即便如此也相对痛苦。如果你回顾一下,这可以追溯到 2005 年。你可以看到 Adobe 在金融危机期间(即 2009 年)收入为负。

但这里才是他们真正向 SaaS 模式过渡的地方。2013 年收入同比为负,然后到 2015 年时开始增长到两位数。

One of the things that Adobe did extremely well was moving to the SAS model about a decade ago, but even that was relatively painful. If you look back, this goes all the way back to 2005. You can see that Adobe's revenue negative during the financial crisis, so 2009. But here's really where they made the transition to the SAS model. Negative revenue comps, negative revenue comps in 2013. And then that starts to increase to double digits by the time you get to 2015.

如果我们看利润率,你会看到类似的挑战。在那几年里,当他们试图转向这种 SaaS 模式时,他们的营业利润率非常非常糟糕。但你可以看到,利润率在 2014 年左右到如今之间持续上升。

If we look at margins, you see similar challenges. For a few years there, they had really, really terrible operating margins as they're trying to move to this SAS model. But you can see that margins continually increased between about 2014 and through today.

那么,这是否可能成为又一次艰难的转型,因为我们在十多年前的 Adobe 身上看到了这种情况。可能同样如此。对投资者来说,好处是你以一个相当不错的价格买入股票。管理层用业务产生的现金回购股票。

而且,与十年前相比,这是一家规模更大、实力更强的公司。因此,我认为这里的风险回报比当时对 Adobe 来说更具吸引力。

So is this can be another difficult transition because that's what we saw with Adobe a little over a decade ago. Could be the same thing. The nice thing for investors is you're getting a pretty decent price for the stock. You're getting management buying back shares with the cash that they have coming through the business. And this is a much bigger, more powerful company than it was a decade ago. So I think the riskreward here is much more attractive than it was at that point for Adobe.

他说在等什么

营收增长率和毛利率/营业利润率
增长率保持在10-15%区间,且利润率不被破坏
未来几个季度财报
若增长持续且利润率保持,则支持看涨论点;若增长放缓或利润率显著下降,则削弱论点。
新任CEO的任命及战略方向
明确是坚持基于席位的销售模式,还是转向按使用量付费的AI模型
近期公司公告
清晰且成功的战略会降低不确定性并支持估值;持续的模糊或失败的转型则会削弱论点。

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