ADP是一项稳定的长期投资,基本面强劲且具有定价权,但上行空间有限。
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像ADP就很有意思。我待会儿会跟你聊工资单的事。事实上,这是我一直在考虑要做的一件事。
Like ADP is an interesting one. I I'll talk to you about payroll in a second. Yeah. In fact, it's it's one that I was thinking about about doing.
嗯,我们来看看ADP。我们来聊聊工资单公司。
Um, let's take a look at ADP. Let's talk about payroll companies.
所以ADP是那些持续运行工资单的遗留系统之一,而且它一直在运行。令人瞩目的是他们如何持续地增长盈利。我们看看他们表现如何。我的意思是,恐惧基本上在于AI会摧毁这个,初创公司会抢走他们的饭碗。
so ADP is one of those legacy systems that has continued to run payroll and continues to run. It's remarkable how they they've continued to be able to grow earnings. We'll see how they do. I mean, the fear is basically that AI is going to like blow this up and startups are startups are going to eat their lunch.
而且我不知道,伙计,如果我是CFO,比如有人带着一个初创工资单公司来找我,而我有一家大公司,我真的想通过转向一个小初创公司能省多少钱?与ADP相比,值得冒搞砸员工W2的风险吗?
And I don't know, man, if if if I was if I was I am a CFO, like someone comes to me with a startup um payroll company and I've got a big company, like do I really want how much could I possibly save by going to a small startup versus ADP? Is it worth the the the risk of messing up employees W2.
我的意思是,我直接告诉你,如果你有一家公司,你错过了工资单,地面上的人不会想,哦,我知道有人在工资单文件里按错了键,没有正确上传。这就是为什么我拿到工资。不,不。他们认为公司要倒闭了。
他们认为你支票跳票了,我该为这些公司工作吗?这不是,哦,哎呀,哈哈,小故障。而是,哦,我的天,我有房贷和家庭要养。这些人刚刚让我的支票跳票了。
I mean, I'll just tell you if if you have a company and you miss payroll, people don't the people on the ground don't think, oh, I know someone put a, you know, fat finger key in the payroll file and it didn't upload properly. That's why they get my paycheck. No, no. They think the company's going out of business. They think you bounced the check and should I work for these companies? It is not, oh, oops, haha, little funny glitch. It's, oh my god, I've got a mortgage and a family to feed. These guys just bounced my paycheck.
这相当严重。所以,这不是我会去找最低出价者的事情。就是不会。我认为这就是为什么你会看到这个美元金额和这些盈利持续向北攀升,因为就像你在这里省几个基点,但你冒着风险,嘿,伙计,谢谢加入,你知道,你冒着几个基点的风险,也许多花一点钱没关系,但你有一个知名品牌。
It's It's pretty serious. So, it's not something I would go to the low bidder on. It It's just not. And I think that's why you see kind of this relentless march north of this dollar amount and these earnings because it's kind of like what are you saving a few basis points here but you're risking uh hey bud thanks for joining uh you know you're risking a few basis points maybe it cost you a little bit more fine but you have a name brand
哦,看自由现金流。简直碾压。哦,看那个。翻倍了。他们在这里做了些什么。在2021年。这里收入有一个小波折,像14、14.5、15。然后一年内跳了15亿。两年内又跳了15亿。又10亿。
所以增长率开始增长,斜率变了,你可以看到它立即产生了更多的自由现金流。
Uh oh, look at free cash flow. Just crush it. Oh, look at that. Doubled. They they did something here. Something in 2021. There's a little kink here in revenue that like 14 14 1/2 15. Then it jumped a billion and a half in one year. It jumped another billion and a half in two years. Another billion. So it so just the growth rate started growing like the slope changed and you can see it it instantly generated more free cash flow.
所以运营。那么他们用这些自由现金做什么?债务下降了,是的,下降了。他们还清了10亿美元的债务。这是他们用这些自由现金做的一件事,而且他们在回购股票。他们没有像自由现金流大幅上升那样回购更多股票。
他们加大了股票购买。所以,它肯定只是坐在资产负债表上。他们提高了股息。所以,有一点,是的,他们提高了股息的增长率。所以,这里有一点斜率变化。嗯,但它可能只是坐在资产负债表上。
So operating. So what are they doing with this free cash? So debt debt came down uh yeah down. They they paid down a billion dollars in debt. So that's one thing they did with this free cash and and they're buying back stock. They haven't bought back any more stock like with the pattern like free cash flow went up tremendously. they they step up their buying of of um of stock. So, it's got to just be sitting on the balance sheet. They move the dividend up. So, there's a little Yeah, they bump they bump the growth rate of the dividend. So, there's a little bit of slope change here. Um but it's it's probably sitting on the balance sheet.
让我们去看看。嗯,我们先看利润表。让我们看看10年的数据。看看发生了什么。所以,就在这里,你看。2021年底2%的增长率。那变成了22年底10%的增长率,从那以后一直保持相当高。
Let's go check a look. Um we'll do the income statement first. Let's take a look at uh 10 years of data. Let's see what happened. So, right here, there you go. 2% growth rate end of 2021. That went to 10% growth rate in end of 22 and stayed pretty high since then.
嗯,毛利率44、45%、47、48、49。所以他们在那里获得了300个基点的利润。这是一个很大的变动,在毛利率阶段,对吧?因为这是180亿收入中的3%,那是很多钱。嗯,这是一个很大的变动。
um gross profit margin 44 45% 4748 49. So there they picked up 300 basis points of profit. That's a big move in um that's a big move at gross profit stage, right? Because it's 3% of a of a of a multi-billion of revenue of of 18 billion is a lot of dollars. Um that's a big move.
好的,所以他们一定改变了他们的成本结构。实际上,他们可能提价了。现在我想想,我不认为这改变了很多。他们可能只是提高了每个人的费率,而且他们提高费率的速度比C快,因为那段时间我们有通货膨胀。
他们可能只是给每个人都发了一个涨价通知,那直接落到了底线。我的意思是,说到定价权。哇。
Okay, so that's they must have changed something in their cost structure. Actually, they probably did a price increase. Now I think about it, I don't think this has changed much. They probably just raised everyone's rates and and they raised rates faster than C because we had inflation going on in this period of time. They probably just pinged everybody with a with a price increase and that dropped right to the bottom line. I mean, talk about pricing power. Wow.
他们突然有一些研发投入。不确定那是关于什么的。销售、一般及行政费用在增长。是的。只是提价。嗯,让我们看看。那些东西在资产负债表上吗?现金及现金等价物。是的,他们从20亿变成了现在的40亿。
他们翻倍了现金持有量,同时增加了股息。非常好。干得漂亮。干得漂亮,先生。
They had some R&D kick in all of a sudden. Not sure what that was about. Selling SGNA growing. Yeah. Just a price increase. Uh let's see. Is that stuff sitting on the balance sheet? cash and cash equivalents. Yeah, they went from two billion. They're now at four billion. They doubled doubled their cash holding while increasing the dividend. Very nice. Well played. Well played, sir.
让我们看看现金流。我想我已经在图表上做过了,但让我们看看是否有什么有趣的。折旧摊销股票补偿。所以他们支付,哎呀,股票补偿2亿,那去哪了?242百万,收入220亿。242除以大约220亿。
好的。我的意思是,那是收入的1%,作为给管理层做他们正在做的事情的奖励,是一个合适的数字。不像你从一些像Sweet Greens和其他一些基本上是在剥削股东给员工的公司看到的20%。
我就是不能接受那个。嗯,所以那非常合适。干得好,管理层。你们赢得了那个。
Let's take a look at cash flow. I think I did this already on the on the charts, but let's just see if we see anything interesting. depreciation amortization stockbased comp. So they're paying oops stockbased comp 200 uh where did that go? 24 242 million on revenue of 22 billion. 242 divided by call it 22 billion. Okay. I mean that's 1% 1% of revenue as a kicker to management for for doing what they're doing is an appropriate number. 20% like you see from some of these like Sweet Greens and some of these other companies that are just basically fleecing shareholders to give it to the employees. I I just can't get on board with that. Uh so that's very appropriate. Good job management. You guys earned that one.
净营运资本变动。他们可能转向更多仿制药。当然,抱歉,回到兽医。有人给我评论说他们转向仿制药。他们可能为了省钱而转向。你说得完全正确。我们有点提到了东西从独家名单上掉下来的想法。
嗯,我想这个论点应该是他们应该有替代药物做其他事情,会出现在名单上,比如他们正在追求的某种减肥药。
Net working capital change. They might be switching to more generics. Uh certainly sorry just going back to the vet. Someone gave me a comment that they're switching to generics. They could be switching to save money. You're absolutely right. We we kind of brought up the idea of like things falling off of the exclusivity list. Um the idea I guess the thesis being that they should have replacement drugs that do other things that are going to come on uh come on the docket like some sort of weight loss drug that they're going after.
资本支出是最小的,对吧?系统已经建立了。所以,像这个东西是一台现金印刷机。嗯,在我看来它看起来相当稳固。现金流收益率是多少?5%。很好。不错的股票。不会,不会,你知道,在这上面不会打出全垒打,但至少你知道它应该长期持续运转,希望它能恢复并在10、15、20年内复利。
Capex is minimal, right? The systems already involved. So, like this thing's a cash printing machine. Um, it looks it looks pretty solid to me. What's the cash flow yield? 5%. Great. Nice stock. Not not going to not going to um you know get a home run on this thing, but uh at least you know it should continue to churn over long term and hopefully it it regains and it compounds over, you know, 10, 15, 20 years.
这个频道对 $ADP 的历次判断
Rational Investing - Cameron Stewart, CFA 在这只股票上共 2 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。