对当前买入AMD持看空/中性态度,理由是资本回报率不佳且估值过高依赖未来增长,并表示除非营收预期有误,否则可能不会买入。
逐段跳播
如果你持有Nvidia、AMD或Palantir的股票,你会被告知要持有,逢低买入,并加强你的仓位,因为一波数十亿美元的浪潮即将到来。
If you own shares of Nvidia, AMD, or Palantir, you are told to hold on, buy on the dip, and strengthen your positions because a multi-billion dollar wave is coming.
嗯,后者是AMD,这个频道的追随者也称之为“AMD坚果”。这很有趣,因为AMD似乎是 weakest link 或例外。它不是像Palantir那样被媒体炒作的股票,也不是像Nvidia那样的王者。
它是替代品。所以,让我们看看这是否真的使它成为一个更好的购买选择。
Well, the latter is AMD, also known to this channel's followers as " AMD Nuts". This is interesting because AMD seems to be the weakest link or the exception. It is not a media-hyped stock like Palantir, nor is it a king like Nvidia. It's the alternative. So, let's see if that actually makes it a better buy.
嗯,第一个看涨论点,价格与价值相比实际上是合理的。与Nvidia和Palantir不同,AMD股票的交易价格处于一个更合理的远期市盈率。如果你相信AI扩张是真实的,但不想支付高昂的溢价来参与,AMD可能是价值投资者进入这笔交易的途径。
Well , the first bullish argument, price versus value is actually reasonable. Unlike Nvidia and Palantir, AMD stock is trading at a much more reasonable forward price-to-earnings ratio . If you believe that AI expansion is real, but don't want to pay a hefty premium to participate , AMD may be the way for value investors to enter this trade.
第二个看涨论点:每个人都想要第二个选择。这就像想成为你社区中最便宜房主。微软、Meta和Oracle——这些公司正在拼命寻找第二家芯片供应商,这样他们就不会完全依赖Nvidia。
AMD的MI300和MI325芯片作为替代品被广泛采用。对非Nvidia选项的需求巨大,而AMD完美契合这一点。
The second bull's argument: everyone wants a second option. It's like wanting to be the least expensive homeowner in your neighborhood. Microsoft, Meta , and Oracle – these companies are desperately searching for a second chip supplier so they don't become entirely dependent on Nvidia. AMD's MI300 and MI325 chips are being widely adopted as an alternative. The demand for a non- Nvidia option is huge, and AMD fits that perfectly.
第三个看涨论点:故事不仅仅是关于人工智能。AMD还在个人电脑和数据中心服务器领域从英特尔手中夺取了重要的市场份额。这给了他们一个多元化的现金流引擎,不完全依赖AI噪音周期来生存。
The third argument of the bulls: the story isn't just about artificial intelligence. AMD is also taking a significant market share from Intel in both PCs and data center servers. This gives them a diversified cash flow engine that is not entirely dependent on the AI noise cycle for survival.
第一个看跌论点:利润率太差。Nvidia的毛利率为75%。这意味着从他们销售的每个部分中,在支付所有直接成本后,75%作为利润来覆盖一般费用和税收。至于AMD,其利润率在47%到50%之间。
伙计们,这不是一个小差距。这是一个完全不同的商业模式。因为AMD为了获得市场份额而比Nvidia定价更低,它每销售一个芯片就承担更高的成本。这意味着每一美元收入产生的自由现金流显著减少。
The first argument of the bears: profit margins are too bad . Nvidia operates with a gross profit margin of 75%. This means that from each segment they sell, after paying all the direct costs associated with it, 75% of it goes as profits to cover general expenses and taxes. As for AMD, its margins range between 47 % and 50%. This is no small gap, guys. This is a completely different business model. Because AMD is lowering prices than Nvidia to gain market share, it incurs higher costs for every chip it sells. This means significantly less free cash flow for every dollar of revenue .
第二个看跌论点:股票实际上并不便宜。这是欺骗人们的点。每个人都说AMD是一个价值交易,但它仍然以超过100倍的市盈率交易。这意味着公司目前实际产生的利润无论如何都不能证明股价的合理性。
你不是在为AMD现在的样子付费,你是在为你希望它成为的样子付费。
The second bears' argument: the stock isn't actually cheap. This is the point that deceives people. Everyone says AMD is a value deal, but it still trades at more than 100 times its after-earnings. This means that the actual profits the company is currently making do not justify the share price in any way. You are not paying for what AMD is now, you are paying for what you hope it will become .
第三个看跌论点是他们受到两方面的压力。AMD试图在AI市场的顶端与Nvidia竞争,而英特尔试图从下方夺回其在处理器市场的份额。此外,他们最大的潜在客户谷歌、亚马逊和Meta正在内部构建自己的芯片。AMD被困在中间。
The third bears' argument is that they are under pressure from both sides. AMD is trying to fight Nvidia at the top of the AI market, while Intel is trying to regain its share of the processor market from below. Moreover, their biggest potential customers, Google, Amazon and Meta, are building their own chips internally. AMD is stuck in the middle.
所以,让我们在我们的程序中打开AMD数据,回顾八大支柱、分析师的估计,然后我们看看他们设定的价格。因此,AMD的市值是7600亿美元。一个合理的公司有可能以一万亿美元或更低的价格出售吗?
看看这个。该组织的估值为7630亿美元。这意味着有40亿美元的债务,他们去年产生了84亿美元的自由现金流。所以,基本上,不到6个月的自由现金流就可以偿还他们的债务。
So, let's open the AMD data in our program and review the eight pillars, the analysts' estimates, and then we'll take a look at the price they've set. Therefore, AMD's market capitalization is $760 billion. Is it possible for a reasonable company to be sold for a trillion dollars or less? Look at this. The organization is valued at $763 billion . This means $4 billion in debt, and they generated $ 8.4 billion in free cash flow last year . So, basically, less than 6 months of their free cash flow can pay off their debts.
现在,有趣的是。资本回报率非常差。我不知道为什么这么低。这显然是有原因的,但这不是一个好迹象。各位,过去五年和十年,他们的利润率一直稳定在10%。突然跃升至15.6%。我们必须问,这种情况是否会持续,还是他们会回到之前的利润率水平。
And now, here's what's interesting. Very poor returns on capital. I don't know why it's so low. There is clearly a reason for this , but it is not a good sign for things. Guys, for the past five and ten years , they've had a very consistent profit margin of 10%. It suddenly jumped to 15.6%. We must ask whether this situation will continue, or whether they will return to their previous profit margin levels.
各位,收购数量非常少,但在过去三年、五年和十年中,他们的收入增长率超过20%,处于二十年代中期。让我们继续看八大支柱。四个标记正确,四个标记错误。当我们制作视频时,我应该开始猜测这些结果。
我应该先坐在那里说:“好的,在我看八大支柱之前,我先看看这些数据。”我认为结果会在这些附近。因此,我们有高市盈率和高市现率。我们的资本回报率不佳。股价略高,上涨1.65%。与其他公司相比,这不算什么,但债务低,现金流增长,收入增长,净利润增长。好吗?
Guys, the number of acquisitions is very small, but they have had revenue growth of over 20% in the mid- twenties over the past three, five and ten years. Let's move on to the eight pillars. Four marks are correct, and four marks are incorrect. I should start guessing these results when we make a video. I should start by sitting there and saying, "Okay, before I go to the Eight Pillars, I'm looking at things." "I think the result will be around this ." Therefore, we have a high price- to-earnings ratio and a high price-to- free cash flow ratio . We have poor returns on capital. The stock is slightly higher, up 1.65%. This is nothing compared to other companies, but there is low debt, cash flow growth, revenue growth, and net income growth. Good?
那么,让我们继续看分析师预测。哇。未来就在这里。在增长方面。如果分析师的预测在未来四年内成真,从7.60美元到42美元。同期收入从510亿美元飙升至2400亿美元。所以,这就是这个增长故事的本质。
人们说,对于这样的增长故事来说,这实际上是相当合理的。
So, let's move on to our analysts' estimates. wow. Herein lies the future. In growth. From $7.60 to $42 if analysts' predictions prove true over the next four years. And revenues skyrocketed from $51 billion to $240 billion during the same four years. So, this is the essence of this growth story . People say it's actually quite plausible for a growth story like this.
那么,我们开始吧。让我们运行股票分析工具。好的,各位。这是我们对AMD过去10年的分析。这是我对未来十年的预测。各位,我不会对你们撒谎。我的收入增长数字比我自己的要低得多,你知道吗?
我会提高我的预期。因为我想确保我给你们的是人们真正期望的和将会发生的。14和20,这些数字可能仍然偏低。我会预测收入增长14%、20%和26%。分析师考虑的是高得多的预期。这是乐观吗?
我不知道。记住,各位,利润率低于自由现金流,既然自由现金流更重要,我会关注它。12%、16%和20%。至于市盈率,我会设为18、22和26。我不会对你们撒谎。由于资本回报率不佳,我会选择比这些更低的数字。
我会设为14、18和22。最后,在没有安全边际和9.5%回报率的情况下,我会按下分析按钮。各位,我得到低价在70到95之间,高价在400到540之间,平均价在180到240之间。
无论我怎么分析,我可能都不会买入,除非我对收入增长预测完全错误。这是这里最大的未知数。问题是,我们是否处于人工智能爆炸性增长的持续水平?
So, here we are. Let's run our stock analysis tool. Okay, guys. So, here's our analysis of AMD over the past 10 years. Here are my predictions for the next ten years. Guys, I'm not going to lie to you. My revenue growth numbers are horribly lower than I am, just me , you know what? I will raise my expectations. Because I want to make sure that I'm giving you what people really expect and what will happen. 14 and 20 , and these numbers are probably still low. I would project revenue growth of 14%, 20%, and 26%. Analysts are taking into account much higher expectations. Is it optimism? I don't know. Remember, guys, that profit margins are less than free cash flow, and since free cash flow is more important, I will focus on it . 12%, 16%, and 20%. As for the price-to- earnings ratio, I would put 18 , 22, and 26. I'm not going to lie to you guys. I would choose lower figures than these because of the poor returns on capital. I will place 14, 18 , and 22. Finally, with no margin of safety and a return of 9.5%, I will press the analyze button. Guys, I got a low price between 70 and 95, a high price between 400 and 540, and an average price between 180 and 240. However I analyze it, I probably won't buy unless I'm completely wrong about the revenue growth estimates. This is the big unknown here. The question is, are we at a constant level of explosive growth in artificial intelligence?
这个频道对 $AMD 的历次判断
Everything Money 在这只股票上共 2 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。