持有APP,对管理层执行力和电商业务增长的信心支撑了合理的风险回报,尽管近期股价有所下跌。
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一家几年前大多数投资者从未听说过的移动游戏公司,没有人谈论过AppLovin这家公司,它是如何做到的呢?如果你现在上X,你会看到很多关于AppLovin的消息,因为该股在最近一次财报发布后下跌了38%左右。
how did a mobile gaming company that most investors had never heard of prior to a few years ago, no one had ever talked about the company AppLovin. If you go on X right now, you're gonna see a lot about AppLovin because the stock fell 38% or around there after their most recent earnings report.
但这家小公司是如何在数字广告领域开辟出一片天地的呢?我们将打好基础并逐步展开,因为这样你才能理解这一切是如何发生的,AppLovin是做什么的,以及它如何与数字广告领域的其他大型参与者竞争。
But how does this small company carve out a niche in digital ads? We'll lay a foundation and build this out because that's how you're gonna understand how this happened, what AppLovin does, and how it plays in this market with other bigger players in digital advertising.
我们更新了去年讨论The Trade Desk和AppLovin时制作的这些幻灯片。
We refreshed these slides that we made from last year when we were talking about The Trade Desk and AppLovin.
现在让我们把AppLovin联系起来。他们是如何成为全球最大的软件公司之一的?尤其是在过去几年里,而且全部集中在数字广告领域,与大型围墙花园竞争。
So now let's tie AppLovin into this. How did they become one of the largest software companies in the world? Especially just the last couple of years, and all in digital advertising, going up against the big walled gardens.
是移动游戏。这对我来说确实有点意外。但AppLovin在2012年起步时做的事情非常不起眼。他们帮助移动游戏开发者寻找新玩家。
It was mobile games. That was certainly a little surprising for me to understand. But AppLovin, in 2012, started something very unglamorous. They were helping mobile game developers find new players.
我们接下来会讲到为什么这最近对AppLovin不利。移动游戏市场十年前的增长远高于现在。它仍然预计是一个中个位数总市场增长的行业。它是视频游戏行业中最大、增长最快的细分市场,而视频游戏行业仍然巨大且仍在增长。
所以这个市场对AppLovin来说并没有完全饱和,但这就是他们最初的做法,然后几年前他们推出了Axon 2.0 AI驱动的软件套件,极大地推动了增长。
And we're gonna get to why that has worked against AppLovin more recently. Mobile gaming was much higher growth a decade ago than it is now. It's still expected to be probably a mid-single digit total market growth industry. The largest and fastest growing segment of the video game industry, which is still huge and it's still growing. So it's not like this market is all tapped out for AppLovin, but that's originally how they did it, and then they had the Axon 2.0 AI-powered software suite a few years ago that came out that supercharged that.
该算法非常擅长将合适的玩家与移动游戏应用的发行商、开发者匹配起来。这就是你在我们的幻灯片中看到AppLovin与其他软件公司配对的地方,比如另一家游戏开发商Unity,以及Digital Turbine和Taboola。
The algorithm was really great at matching the right gamer with the publisher, the developer of the mobile game app. And this is where you see AppLovin paired up in our slide here with other software companies like Unity, another game developer, and Digital Turbine, as well as Taboola.
是的,这就是为什么AppLovin并不是真正的DSP或SSP。它更像是一个中间的市场。它的算法帮助将广告直接嵌入到应用中,而他们能够竞争的方式,因为你自然会想,谷歌和Meta不是已经用他们的各种软件和应用做到了吗?
这些软件和应用控制着需求和供应两端,既控制营销关系也控制发布商关系。
Yeah, and this is why, AppLovin isn't really a DSP or an SSP. It's more like a marketplace in the middle. Its algorithms help embed those ads directly on the app, and the way that they were able to compete, because you should automatically think, doesn't Google and Meta already do that with their various pieces of software and applications that control both the demand and the supply side, both the marketing relationship and the publisher relationship?"
是的,他们确实做到了。但AppLovin设法挤了进去,他们创造自己的飞轮或供应链的方式之一是,早期他们实际上开始自己购买和开发自己的移动应用。
Yeah, they do. But AppLovin was able to wiggle its way in there, and one of the ways they created their own flywheel or supply chain was early on, they actually started buying and developing their own mobile apps themselves.
所以他们很早就明白,与这些大型围墙花园竞争的最佳方式,在某种程度上,是创建你自己的围墙花园。
So they understood early on the best way to actually compete with these big walled gardens was to, in a way, create your own walled garden in your own right.
现在,你可能知道AppLovin去年(2025年)将其游戏工作室出售给了Tripledot,以换取现金和该私营移动游戏开发商集团中的少数股权。
Now, you probably know AppLovin sold its game studios to Tripledot in exchange for cash and a minority equity stake in that privately owned mobile game developer conglomerate last year in 2025.
所以他们不再是一个严格意义上的围墙花园。他们没有自己的内部飞轮,这可能是为什么他们一直在考虑开发某种社交媒体应用或其他平台来重新获得它。
So they're not a walled garden per se anymore. They don't have their own in-house flywheel, which is probably why they've been looking at developing some sort of social media app or some other platform to kind of get that back.
这就是为什么他们曾讨论竞购TikTok,以及在过去一年中还有其他讨论,也许他们开发一个Facebook或X、Twitter的竞争对手,诸如此类,这样他们就能重新获得一些控制权,并为他们的营销人员提供一个出口,尤其是当他们开始突破移动游戏广告和用户获取,进入直接面向消费者的品牌广告领域时。
That's why they were talking about making a bid for TikTok and why there have been other conversations over the course of the last year that maybe they develop some competitor to Facebook or X, Twitter, something like that, so that they can get some control back and provide an outlet for their marketers, especially as they're starting to break out of just mobile game advertising, user acquisition, and now getting into direct-to-consumer brand advertising.
Shopify是一个入口。有一个Shopify集成,如果你在Shopify上建立了电子商务商店,你现在可以利用那些帮助AppLovin的AI驱动算法在移动游戏获取方面表现出色的相同算法。
Shopify is a feeder. There's a Shopify integration where if you have an e-commerce store set up on Shopify, you can now utilize those same algorithms that helped make AppLovin's AI-powered algorithms so great for mobile game acquisition.
我们将看看情况如何发展,但一个风险是随着他们进入电子商务领域,竞争会更加激烈。
We'll see how that plays out, but one risk here is the higher level of competition as they get into e-commerce.
他们如何在需求方、营销方和发布商方这两方面处理这种关系?我们不会在本视频中详细讨论这一点,但中间还有一些其他软件公司,负责广告测量、数据管理和安全。这些公司在这个环境中的表现甚至更糟。
And how do they kind of walk down that relationship on both sides, on both the demand side, the marketing side, and the publisher side? And we're not gonna go into great detail in this video on this, but there's some other software companies in the middle that work on ad measurement, data management, and security. These companies actually have fared even worse in this environment.
但请注意,未来也有一些参与者值得你关注。软件行业没有护城河,只有快车,而且很容易获取这些分析工具,并将其集成到自己的平台中,无论是DSP还是SSP,尤其是围墙花园。他们也能做到。
But be aware that there are also some players here that you can take a look at in the future. No moats in software, only fast cars, and it's pretty easy to grab these analytics tools and just implement them in your own platform, be it DSP or SSP or especially the walled gardens. They can do it too.
我们已经介绍了围墙花园的商业模式。现在我们正在讨论AppLovin以及它如何融入数字广告领域。
So we've covered the business model of the walled gardens. We're now talking about AppLovin and how it fits into the digital advertising space.
对我们来说更有帮助的是理解这个供应链、飞轮,无论你怎么称呼它。我们将使用chipstockinvestor.com上的新工具“构建你的自定义供应链”来构建这个供应链。
What would be even more helpful to us is to understand this supply chain, flywheel, whatever you wanna call it. And we're gonna build out this supply chain using our new Build Your Custom Supply Chain tool over at chipstockinvestor.com.
好的,在看了这个供应链,讨论了供应链的各个部分以及谁是真正的赢家——围墙花园之后,让我们添加一个新组,并加入AppLovin。
Okay, so after looking at this supply chain, talking about these various areas of the supply chain and who's the real winner, the walled gardens, let's add a new group and add in AppLovin.
我们称之为移动市场。完美。我们也会调出这个的财务数据。我们不会做季度回顾。你可能知道他们的季度营收增长已经下降到50%左右,而一个主要的担忧是,按环比计算,他们预计年同比增长率为40%左右。
Let's call it mobile marketplace. Perfect. And we'll pull up the financials of this one as well. We're not gonna do a quarterly review. You probably know their revenue growth on a quarterly basis has dropped into the 50% range, and one of the big concerns is on a sequential basis, they've guided for mid 40% year-over-year revenue growth.
我们将讨论的是,随着他们现在进入电子商务领域,而不仅仅是他们在移动游戏领域开辟的小众市场,这些利润率——近70%的自由现金流利润率,接近80%的营业利润率——能否持续?
And we're gonna talk about here as they now move into e-commerce beyond just their little niche that they carved out in mobile gaming, can these profit margins, almost 70% free cash flow margin, operating margins approaching 80%. Is that going to last?
此外,在我们看来,这也是该股在第二季度报告后出现下跌的原因之一。
Also in our opinion, one of the reasons that the stock took a bit of a header after the Q2 report.
当你有这样的利润率时,上升空间不大,但下降空间很大。这部分是因为他们必须训练新的算法来应对这些新的电子商务客户,在左边,以Shopify为例,只是为了比较,因为许多直接面向消费者的公司可能也会建立自己的独立关系,而许多较小的企业可能只会通过Shopify来运作,较小的、非公开交易的,甚至只是夫妻店、有抱负的企业家、初创公司。
When you have margins like that, there's not a lot of room to go up, but there is plenty of room to go down. And part of this is they have to train new algorithms to address these new e-commerce customers here on the left, headed up by, let's just say Shopify, just for the sake of comparison, because a lot of the direct consumer companies, they would probably also forge their own independent relationship, and a lot of the smaller businesses maybe will just work through Shopify, smaller, non-publicly traded, even just, mom-and-pop shops, aspiring entrepreneurs, startups.
在供应方面,我将留空,因为这将是AppLovin开发的移动游戏生态系统。比如他们仍然持有的Tripledot的少数股权,我们将看看他们如何发展这个图表的供应方。
And on the supply side, I'm gonna leave this blank because this would be the mobile game ecosystem that AppLovin has developed. Like the minority stake they still hold in Tripledot, and we'll see how they develop the supply side of this chart.
但这就是AppLovin的问题。他们能保持增长步伐吗?利润率是否会因此受到打击?我们将点击AppLovin并进入公司分析页面。我将滚动到底部的公司页面财务部分。让我们点击季度。这就是问题所在。你可以看到营收增长的轨迹。
But that is the question for AppLovin. Can they keep up the pace of growth? And are the profit margins going to take a hit as they do so? We're gonna click on AppLovin and go to the company analysis page. I'm gonna scroll down to the bottom to the Financials section of the Company page. Let's click on quarterly. This is the issue. You can see the trajectory of revenue growth.
与此相伴,市场担心的是什么?这些营业利润率同时受到打击。让我在这里调出EBITDA利润率而不是营业利润率。你可以立即看到市场为何担忧。如果营收增长即将放缓,甚至可能持平,就像AppLovin在几年前的上一次熊市中所做的那样,广告实际上是一个周期性的软件终端市场,利润率会受到打击。这就是该股下跌的原因。
And paired with that, what is the market worried about? These operating profit margins taking a hit simultaneously. Let me pull up EBITDA margin here rather than the operating margin. You can immediately see why the market is worried. If revenue growth is about to slow down, maybe even flatline, like AppLovin did a few years ago during the last bear market, advertising is actually a cyclical software end market, and the profit margins take a hit. This is why the stock has fallen.
并不是说AppLovin注定要失败。这将归结为执行。他们能否重新加速营收并保持足够高的利润率,以便为股东持续创造价值?
It's not that AppLovin is necessarily doomed. This is going to come down to execution. Can they re-accelerate their revenue and keep profit margins high enough that value continues to get added for shareholders?
这就是目前问题的关键。AppLovin能否保持营收增长,以及随着他们投资电子商务并为这些直接面向消费者的电商品牌投放训练新的AI算法,利润率是否会周期性波动?这些利润率是否也会保持高位,或者如果它们下降,是否会回升?
So this is what it boils down to at this point. Can AppLovin keep its revenue growing and will the profit margin cycle as they invest in e-commerce and train new AI algorithms for the placement of those direct-to-consumer e-commerce brands? Will those profit margins also stay elevated, or if they do go down, will they recover?
如果你在Chip Stock Investor关注我们一段时间,你会知道我们成为AppLovin的股东已经有一段时间了,已经好几年了。我们对持有该股感到非常满意。它在我们的投资组合中占有一个相当可观的仓位,所以即使股价大幅回调,我们个人也不会加仓。
在过去几年里,我们多次逢低买入,它已经成长为投资组合中相当可观的仓位,所以目前我们个人不会加仓。
So if you've been following us for a while here at Chip Stock Investor, you know that we've been AppLovin shareholders for quite some time now. It's been a few years. We're very happy with having the stock in our portfolio. It's a pretty decent sized position in our portfolio, so personally we're not going to be adding even though the stock price has pulled back significantly. We have bought the dip a number of times in the last couple of years, it's grown to be a pretty decent sized position in our portfolio, so we're not adding personally at this time.
我想也许我们应该在这里补充一点,这是一个典型的错误。当股价表现良好时,每个人都对业务感到非常自信,他们所谓的信念,然后你会看到在股价下跌后,这些信念的呼声逐渐消失。如果我们的投资组合有空间,我认为我们实际上仍然对业务本身和管理层过去的能力有信心,基于他们的过往记录,他们能够随着时间的推移增长和扩展业务,并真正出色地回报股东。
I guess maybe we should add here that this is kind of a classic mistake. When the stock price is doing well, everybody feels really confident about the business. They have so-called conviction, and then you see like the conviction calls wither and dry up after the stock price declines. If we had the room in our portfolio, I think we still actually have conviction in the business itself and management's ability in the past, based on their track record, to grow and expand the business over time and really do a fantastic job rewarding shareholders.
所以股价本身并不是问题,如果这影响了你对业务的信念,请深入了解一下。没有必要因为某件事而炸掉投资组合,因为目前AppLovin正处于某种周期之中。从现在开始可能会更加艰难,所以我们需要留出一些空间来重新分析业务,并说:“嘿,看起来他们这次实际上不会执行得很好。”
So the stock price alone isn't the concern, and if that is affecting your conviction in the business, do give this one a deeper look. There's no need to blow up the portfolio on something because really where we're at right now with AppLovin is they are in the midst of some sort of cycle. It could get more rough from here, and so we need to leave some room for reanalyzing the business and saying, "Hey, you know, it actually doesn't look like they're going to execute well this round."
相反,只需看看风险回报比,目前看起来相当不错,相当好。如果你几个月前喜欢它,目前似乎没有任何变化,除了市场只是对电商领域更高的竞争以及他们需要花费更多资金来进入这个新垂直领域进行了折价。
所以如果你当时喜欢它,我不明白为什么你现在不会喜欢它。但同时,让我们保持理性,并相应调整投资组合中的仓位。
But instead, just look at the risk to reward profile, which at the moment appears to be pretty decent, pretty good. If you liked it a couple months ago, it doesn't appear anything at the moment has changed other than the market just discounting the higher competition in e-com and the need for them to spend more money to grow into this new vertical. So if you liked it then, I don't see why you wouldn't like it now. But at the same time, let's be rational and right-size the position in the portfolio accordingly.
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这个频道对 $APP 的历次判断
Chip Stock Investor 在这只股票上只有这一条判断。