BKNG 是一项高质量业务;其低迷的估值反映的是暂时性的担忧(疫情持续时间、Google 去中介化),而随着直接 App 使用量增长、平台效用保持完好,这些担忧已被证明不成立。
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你能解释一下你买入 Booking.com 时的投资逻辑吗?你看到了什么与市场看法不同的地方?就 Booking.com 而言,这非常有意思,因为它不仅仅关乎新冠疫情。很明显,疫情让人们对封锁的持续时间以及旅行受到的中断产生了疑问。
Can you explain your investment idea regarding Booking.com when you bought it, and what did you see that was different from the market's view of it? For Booking.com, it was really interesting because it wasn't just about Covid.
It is clear that Covid raised questions among people about the duration of the lockdown and the disruption to travel.
我们的看法是,从历史上看,当我们经历 2001 年和 2002 年的衰退以及 SARS 的出现时,人们也曾对旅行感到担忧。这些担忧通常只是暂时性的。人们想要旅行,想要见到自己的朋友和亲人。
几乎每一次旅行中断在历史上都是短暂的,我们认为这次也会如此。
Our view was that historically, when we experienced the recession of 2001 and 2002 and the emergence of SARS, there were concerns about travel . These concerns are usually temporary in nature.
People want to travel, and they want to see their friends and relatives. Almost every stoppage in travel has been historically brief, and it was our view that this would be the case as well.
股价完全没有反映这一点。股价反映的是对负面得多的业绩的预期。此外,当时还有一种担忧,认为 Google 可能会进入旅游行业,从而消除 Booking.com 作为中介的角色。人们可能会先去 Google,抱歉,先去 Google,然后再预订酒店。
The stock price did not reflect that at all. The price reflected expectations of much more negative results . Furthermore, there was a fear that Google might enter the travel industry and eliminate Booking.com's role as an intermediary.
People might go to Google first, sorry, to Google first, and then book their hotel.
因此,尽管它是一家质量非常高的公司,其低估值却有多种原因。有意思的是,如今人们对人工智能存在担忧,因为智能体可能会做出人们当初以为 Google 会做的事,也就是绕过某些平台。
因此,其中一些担忧并没有消失,而是随着时间推移在某种程度上反复出现。
Thus, there were various reasons for its low value, despite being a very high-quality company. It is interesting today that there are concerns about artificial intelligence, as agents may do what people thought Google would do, namely, bypass certain platforms.
Therefore, some of these concerns do not disappear, but rather recur somewhat over time.
事实上,Booking 和 Expedia 都在 Google 上大量投放广告。因此,我认为我们的视角集中在两个方面。第一,衰退的持续时间;第二,Google 带来的威胁。
In fact, Booking and Expedia advertise heavily on Google. Therefore, I believe our perspective is focused on these two areas. First, the duration of the recessions, and second, the threat posed by Google.
事实证明,我认为他们拥有世界上最好的 CEO 之一,Glenn Vogel,而且他们能够大幅提升直接通过其应用带来的流量。
As it turns out, I think they have one of the best CEOs in the world , Glenn Vogel, and they have been able to significantly increase the traffic that comes directly through their app .
我看到的是,人们不会只在 Google 上开始他们的旅程,最后却落在 Booking.com 上。这和我们今天面对的问题很相似,不是吗?有了人工智能,个人可以直接让他们的智能体去预订这些航班。你如何应对这一点?
I see that people, you know, don't start their journey on Google only to end up on Booking.com. It's a similar question to what we face today, isn't it , with artificial intelligence, where individuals can simply tell their agent to book these flights. How do you deal with that?
当然。因此,如果人们有时间和精力,Booking.com 最新的财报电话会议值得一读。但 Glenn Vogel 指出,当你有一个中间商时,他本质上是在聚合供给和需求,而欧洲各地有大量独立酒店,或者由个人拥有的替代住宿,所以认为所有这些都会让它们的库存能被任何 AI 轻松搜索到,无论是 ChatGPT、Anthropic 还是 XAI,似乎都不太合乎逻辑。
certainly. Therefore, Booking.com's latest conference call is worth reading, if people have the time and energy. But Glenn Vogel pointed out that when you have a middleman, he is essentially aggregating supply and demand, and you have lots of independent hotels all over Europe, or alternative accommodations owned by individuals, so the idea that all of these would make their inventory easily searchable by any AI, whether it's ChatGPT, Anthropic, or XAI, doesn't seem very logical.
你并没有那么高的技术水平。此外,许多这类 AI 系统,比如 Cloud,它们真的想成为负责任的交易方吗?当客户的旅行计划出问题时,它们愿意去处理吗?
You don't have, you know , that much technological advancement. Furthermore , many of these AI systems , such as Cloud, do they really want to be the responsible trader? Do they want to deal with the customer when their travel plans go wrong?
如你所知,我认为人们并没有太多思考过经营一家旅游企业真正意味着什么。如果你考虑到来自世界各地、使用不同支付系统的人来预订,还有被翻译成 40 种语言的评论记录。这并非简单之事,AI 智能体不太可能在没有这些平台的情况下运作。
As you know, I don't think people have given much thought to what it really means to run a travel business. And if you consider the people who book from countries around the world with different payment systems , and the review log translated into 40 languages.
It is not a simple matter, and it is unlikely that AI agents will be able to operate without these platforms.
有些 AI 智能体确实很擅长从这些平台收集数据。当然,平台本身才是决定这种情况能否永久持续下去的一方。
Some AI agents are really good at collecting data from these platforms. And of course, the platforms themselves are the ones who control whether that will continue on a permanent basis.
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