HIMS是一个高增长的非对称投资案例;若成为全球医疗需求聚合者,其价值可能增长10至100倍。
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作为美国领先的远程医疗公司,对 Hims & Hers 来说可能是一个 10 倍的机会,甚至更大,但成为全球远程医疗公司——无论你身在何处,都能回答你所有问题的地方——才是医疗保健和 Hims & Hers 真正巨大的机会所在。
Being a leading telehealth company in the US could be a 10x, maybe even a bigger opportunity for Hims & Hers, but beating being the global telehealth company where you go to answer all your questions no matter where you are in the world is really where the massive opportunity is for healthcare and for Hims & Hers.
我认为这就是我们在 Hims & Hers 身上看到的情况,而且该公司本周早些时候发布的一份简短说明,在很大程度上揭示了他们如何看待长期建设这项业务。
I think that's what we're seeing with Hims & Hers and there is a small note that the company released early in the week this week that tells a lot about how they're viewing building out that business long-term.
Hims & Hers 是该投资组合中最大的持仓之一,实际上是今天最大的持仓。如果你看看 Hims & Hers,你可以看到股价图表,对 Hims & Hers 来说并不是一张漂亮的股价图表。
股价一度下跌多达 50%,但你看,那是我今年早些时候在 Asymmetric 投资组合中机会性买入的时候,因为我认为这种价格每隔一段时间才会出现一次。
Hims & Hers is one of the biggest positions, actually the biggest position today in that portfolio. If you look at Hims & Hers, you can see stock chart, not a great stock chart for Hims & Hers. Shares were down as much as 50%, but look, that was when I was buying opportunistically earlier in the year in the Asymmetric portfolio because I think these were the kind of prices that are only going to come on come around every once in a while.
嗯,Hims & Hers 预计营收增长 32% 至 41%。你可以算一下,这意味着他们预计今年下半年同比增长超过 50%。这部分是由于 Eucalyptus 的收购,我稍后会谈到这一点。
Well, Hims & Hers is expecting to grow revenue 32 to 41%. You do the math, that means they expect to grow over 50% year-over-year in the second half of the year. That is in part because of the Eucalyptus acquisition which I'll get to in just a moment,
在我们讨论这个消息对 Hims & Hers 可能产生的财务影响之前,让我们先看看我们实际了解到了什么。Hims 正在进入澳大利亚,为全国男性带来个性化护理。实际上有两份新闻稿宣布了基本相同的事情,但重要的是 Pilot 品牌将在澳大利亚成为 Hims。
这意味着在过去的几年里进行了一些收购之后,Hims 品牌将在更多国家保持一致。目前这还不是全球性的,但我认为我们开始看到他们将把 Hims 品牌和 Hers 品牌带到越来越多的国家。
从今天起,Pilot 成为 Hims。患者将继续与他们的医疗服务提供者保持治疗计划,但产品上的品牌现在将与你在美国看到的一致。护理团队现在也将提供 24/7 服务,所以这将更像我们在美国的情况。
所以再次强调,整合更多的业务。像文本法案这样的东西需要时间才能全部统一,但这些是使业务长期更高效、更具可扩展性的那种事情,最终将为 Hims & Hers 提供最大的动力。
Before we get to some of the potential financial impact that this news has on Hims and Hers, let's go to what we actually learned. Hims is arriving in Australia bringing personalized care for men nationwide. There was actually two press releases that were announcing essentially the same thing, but the big thing is the Pilot brand is going to become Hims in Australia. That means that the Hims brand is going to be consistent in more countries with after making a couple acquisitions over the past couple of years. This is not something that has gone global at this point, but I think we are starting to see they're going to make this Hims brand and the Hers brand something that they're they're going to bring into more and more countries effective today, Pilot becomes Hims. Patient will maintain the treatment plans with their providers, but the branding on the product is going to now be consistent with what you see in the US. The care team is also now going to 24/7, so this is going to be much more like we have in the US. So again, integrating much more of the business. It'll take time to get things like the text act to be all on one, but these are the kind of things that are going to make the business more efficient, more scalable long-term, and that's ultimately going to provide the biggest momentum for Hims and Hers.
那么,为什么像将产品重新命名为 Hims 品牌这样简单的事情对 Hims & Hers 的长期发展有意义呢?嗯,你需要考虑 Hims & Hers 的商业模式以及他们在未来十年想要做什么。
他们试图成为医疗保健领域的需求聚合者。如果你有医疗保健问题,他们希望成为你首先去的地方。这不仅包括成为你在智能手机上做出的选择,你去说:“嘿,你知道吗?我对正在发生的事情有疑问,或者想了解一种新处方”,他们是你选择与之互动的应用程序,而且也是你的数据去向的地方。
那些答案将在哪里更好。这就是人工智能真正发挥作用的地方。你能把你所有的数据放在一个地方,不仅你自己可以访问,Hims & Hers 也可以访问,说:“嘿,你知道吗?我最近感觉不太好。
我能做些什么来吃得更健康一点,或者我能做些什么来减一点体重?我的化验结果现在对我的健康状况说明了什么?我怎样才能改善我的健康?”所有这些都联系在一起。如果这一切都在一个品牌下,那么长期扩展业务就会容易得多。
So why is something as simple as rebranding a product to the Hims brand meaningful for Hims and Hers long-term? Well, you got to think about Hims and Hers business model and what they're trying to do over the next decade. They are trying to be the aggregator of demand in health care. If you have a health care question, they want to be the first place you go. That includes not only being the choice that you're making on your smartphone, you go, "Hey, you know what? I got a question about something that's going on or want to learn about a new prescription, that they're the app that you choose to interact with, but also where your data is going. Where those answers are going to be better. This is where things like artificial intelligence really ties in. Can you have all of your data in one place that's accessible to not only yourself, but also to Hims and Hers to say, "Hey, you know what? I haven't been feeling very good recently. What can I do to eat a little bit healthier or what can I do to lose a little bit of weight? What do my labs say about my health right now? And how can I improve my health? All of these things tied together. And if it's all under one brand, then that's going to be much easier to scale the business long term.
你可以看到,自 2021 年底以来,当时 Hims & Hers 平台上有大约 60 万订阅者。现在已增至 290 万。你在最近一个季度看到的这一跃升,部分是由于 Eucalyptus 的收购,但也部分是因为他们将美国品牌减肥解决方案带到了平台上。
And you can see since the end of 2021, there was about 600,000 subscribers on Hims and Hers platform at that point. That is now up to 2.9 million. This jump that you see in the most recent quarter is in part because of the Eucalyptus acquisition, but it's also partly because they brought branded weight loss solutions in the US onto the platform.
再说一次,这些与制药公司的交易也将更加全球化。目前它们有点一次性。所以,他们在美国做一笔交易,在英国做一笔交易,在澳大利亚做一笔交易,但最终,我们将看到的是更像 Netflix 签署的那种交易。
嘿,我们想要这部电影或这部电视剧的全球版权。我认为 Hims & Hers 将做类似的事情。说:“嘿,你知道吗?我们在美国有订阅者,我们也在其他十几个国家或 30 个国家有订阅者,我们希望尽可能让他们获得这些解决方案。”
因此,一旦你开始建立这个订阅者基础,你达成的交易就会在本质上更加全球化。
Again, these deals with pharmaceutical companies are also going to be much more global as well. They're kind of one-off at this point. So, they make a deal in the US, they make a deal in the UK, make a deal in Australia, but ultimately, what we're going to see is much more like the deals that you see in Netflix sign. Hey, we want global rights for this movie or for this TV show. Hims and Hers I think is going to do something similar. Say, "Hey, you know what? We have subscribers in the US, we've also got subscribers in a dozen other countries or 30 other countries and we want to give them access to these solutions where we can." And so, you make a deal that is much more global in nature once you start to build this subscriber base.
而关注 Hims & Hers 的两个最重要的数字是平台上有多少订阅者。第二个是每个平均订阅者的月收入。这将是一个普通人在平台上花费多少。过去几个月的大变化是每位订阅者增加到 92 美元。
这将是将这些品牌解决方案添加到 Hims & Hers 平台的一个重要部分。所以,这将是每位订阅者至少 300 美元,这可能会创造一个飞轮效应,因为很多枕头的人也会去做化验。他们会发现其他对 Hims & Hers 有帮助的东西。
所以,回到几年前,平均每人每月花费 59 美元。你把这两件事加在一起,支出增加超过 50%,订阅者也在增加。这就是你如何得到一家能够以 55% 的复合年增长率增长收入的公司。就像我说的,由于 Eucalyptus 的收购,这个增长率将在今年下半年继续。
And the two most important numbers to follow with Hims and Hers is how many subscribers are on the platform. And then the second one is monthly revenue per average subscriber. This is going to be how much does the average person spend on the platform. And the big change over the past few months is the increase to $92 per subscriber. This is going to be a big piece of adding those branded solutions to the Hims & Hers platform. So, that's going to be at least $300 per subscriber, and that's likely to create a flywheel because a lot of pillows people are also going to get labs. They're going to find other things that are going to be helpful for Hims & Hers. So, you go to back just a few years, $59 per month is what the average person was spending. You add these two things together, the spend jumping more than 50% and the increase in subscribers. That's how you get a company that can grow revenue at a compound annual growth rate of 55%. And like I said, that growth rate is going to continue in the second half of this year because of that Eucalyptus Eucalyptus acquisition.
你必须看到 Hims & Hers 正在做出的所有这些发展,他们带到平台上的所有品牌药物,他们引入的化验,他们推出的人工智能工具,以及现在应用程序本身的品牌化为 Hims & Hers。
他们试图成为医疗保健领域的需求聚合者,而且他们不仅在当地,而且在全球范围内这样做。这是你作为投资者希望背后的规模法则,如果 Hims & Hers 成功地做到这一点,成为全球第一的医疗保健品牌,这家公司的市值不会只有 70 亿美元,企业价值与销售额的倍数约为 3 倍。
这将是一家价值是今天的 10 倍、100 倍的公司。这就是为什么我认为 Hims & Hers 存在如此巨大的不对称机会。
You have to look at all of these developments that Hims & Hers is making, all of the branded medications that they're bringing onto the platform, the labs that they're bringing in, the AI tools that they've introduced, and now the branding of the app itself to Hims & Hers. They're trying to be the aggregator of demand in healthcare, and they're trying to do that not just on a local basis, but on a global basis. This is the scaling laws that you want in behind you as an investor, and if Hims & Hers is successful in doing this, in becoming the number one healthcare brand around the world, this is not a company that's going to have a market cap of $7 billion trading for an enterprise value to sales multiple of about three. This is going to be a company that's worth 10 times, 100 times what it is today. That's why I see such a big asymmetric opportunity with Hims & Hers.
我们还没有完全达到那个目标。你还没有在数字中看到它,因为一个大问题是,他们什么时候才能真正盈利?那些营业利润和净利润什么时候会改善?我们现在实际上并不想看到这个。我们想要看到的是收入增长。
我们想要看到订阅者增长。我们想要看到这个品牌成为一个全球品牌,能够在未来十年、二十年内真正扩展并有机地每年增长 20%、30%、40%。这就是 Netflix 所做的。这就是亚马逊所做的。
这就是你如何成为一家万亿美元的公司。我认为 Hims & Hers 长期来看有可能成为那样。
We're not quite there yet. You're not seeing it in the numbers yet because one of the big questions is, when are they going to actually become profitable? When are those operating profits and net income going to improve? We don't actually want to see that right now. What we want to see is revenue growth. We want to see subscriber growth. We want to see this brand become a global brand that can really scale and organically grow 20, 30, 40% each year over the next decade, two decades. That's what Netflix did. That's what Amazon did. That's how you get to be a trillion-dollar company. I think Hims & Hers could potentially be that long-term.
这是整体图景中的一小部分,但它真正象征着他们如何从长远角度看待这一机会。因此,我很喜欢他们更名为 Hims。如果他们也在其他进行过收购的国家这样做,我也不会感到意外,在这些国家中,Hims 和 Hers 是两个品牌,而不是所有这些其他遗留名称,但这需要时间。
更换技术栈也需要时间。所有这些工作都将在业务规模扩大时长期得到回报,但对 Hims & Hers 来说,今天是一个真正具有象征意义的改变。我认为这比许多投资者想象的要重要。
This is a small piece in that picture, but it's really symbolic of how they're viewing the opportunity long-term. So, I love them rebranding as Hims. I wouldn't be surprised to see them do this in more countries where they've made acquisitions where you have Hims and Hers as the two brands and not not all of these other legacy names, but this will take time. Changing the tech stack will take time. All of this is work that will pay off in the long run as the business scales, but a really symbolic change for Hims & Hers today. I think it's bigger than a lot of investors think.
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