KTOS当前水平因低利润率而被高估;若价格跌至约24美元,可能存在买入机会。
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顺便说一句,CTO的防御显然也制造喷气动力无人机。
By the way, Cto's defense apparently builds jet power drones as well.
所以,你知道,真正有趣的是看看KTOS在这些关于喷气动力无人机的讨论中。Q正在下跌。现在,我不是军事承包商的最大粉丝,因为我认为利润率相对较低。
So, you know what would be really interesting is looking at KTOS on this talk about these jet powered drones. Q's dipping. Now, I'm not the biggest fan of uh you know, the uh military contractors just because I think the margins are relatively low.
但让我们快速看一下这个,我想看看Kratos,所以Kronos,好吧,我们有什么,这是净现金。哇,他们的净收入偏低。3个月1100万。运营使用的净现金27,为收购支付的现金,那很多。
还有资本支出。所以,我有负现金流,加上19.9,负现金流47.3。负现金流。我还有另一笔3.5亿美元的收购。我想知道收购对象是谁,他们收购了,让我们看看,那是一家以色列公司,Orbit Technology,以色列国。
是的。嗯。好的。特拉维夫证券交易所100%,3.52亿美元现金,来自公司资产负债表。领导者,哦,在这里。用于无人船的关键任务卫星通信。所以基本上就是无人机。所以,卫星通信,用于无人机的卫星通信。
那很酷。用于无人机。所以这是收购,然后这是现金流量表。我们在发行股票。所以,我们有13亿美元的股票发行。我认为这就是他们如何维持现金流和收购的方式。有现金。这是来自发行的现金。
我有账单要付。4.1亿美元的账单。我有,让我们看看,那些是账单,长期债务,租赁,融资,其他长期负债。长期债务低。这里不是真正的长期债务问题。他们有充足的现金来支付账单,而且他们现在有应收账款。
所以,发行是好的。确实有助于稳定他们的资产负债表,尤其是在收购之后。他们本来会相当低。那已经注定了。所以,那是BS,也就是有些人说的资产负债表。这是他们的收入。所以,我们确实有收入增长,371除以302,大约22.8%的收入增长。
我有总成本281除以229,是22.7%。等等,我刚才是不是做错了?我想我没错。是的,我没做错。73.6,21.7%。毛利润增长。所以利润率似乎稳定。
but uh let's take a quick look at this I want to look at Katos so Kronos okay so what do we have this is net cap cash. Wow, their net income's on the low side. 11 million for 3 months. Net cash used in operations, 27 cash paid for acquisitions, that's a lot. And capex. So, I've got negative cash flow uh plus 19.9 negative cash flow of 47.3. negative cash flow. I have uh another 350 mil acquisition. I wonder for whom acquisition was they acquired uh let's see here is that an Israel Israeli company orbit technology state of Israel. Yeah. Uh-huh. Okay. Tel Aviv Stock Exchange 100% 352 million in cash funded from the company's balance sheet. Leader in Oh, here it is. Mission critical satellite based communications for unmanned vessels. So, drones basically. So, satellite com satcoms for drones. That's cool. for drones. Uh so this is the acquisition and then this is the cash flow statement. We are issuing stock. So we've got stock issuance of 1.3 billion. I have that's how they're going to keep their cash flow and their acquisitions going. There's the cash. Here's the cash from issuance. I have bills to pay. Bills of 410 mil. I've got uh let's see, those are bills, long-term debts, leases, finance, other long-term liabilities. Low long-term debts. Not really a long-term debt issue here. They got plenty of cash to pay their bills and they got receivables now. So, the issuance was good. Uh really helps uh stabilize their balance sheet, especially post uh acquisition. They would have been pretty low there. It the writing was on the wall for that. So, that's the BS also known as the balance sheet some would say. Here is their revenue. So we do have revenue growth 371 divided by 302 of about 22.8% rev growth. I've got total cost 281 divided by 29 229 is 22.7%. Uh wait did I just do I think I did. And yeah no I did that right. 73.6 six 21.7%. Gross profit increase. So margins seem stable.
好的。所以,我要找的是,我要登录。让我获取KTOS的预估。让我们看看我们有什么。Katos Katos Ktos财务分析。好的,我们要得到预测。好的,所以这预测净利率在8%左右,这不好。
每股收益增长在预测方面还算不错。让我们看看。让我写下来。所以,我有4963除以84,等于它交易在59倍,增长是31 74 34 55 32 6417.07 07= / 4 29%的预期增长,因此PEG是59除以20,哦天哪,2.95,这对于一家预测12%到13%净利率的公司来说非常非常贵。
可能更接近1.3左右,也许合理。嗯,所以也许你可以证明1.6是合理的。嗯,我认为即使那也高了,因为利润率相对较低。所以,我会用13。所以,如果我使用13,1.3的PEG乘以20%的预期增长,当前84美分,那给我一个大约21美元的目标价。
所以,你知道,它已经有一些上涨空间了。是的。除非利润率大幅扩大。嗯,需要利润率扩大。
Okay. So, what I'm looking for here is I'm going to log in. Let me get the estimates for KTOS. And uh let's see what we have. Katos Katos Ktos financial anal. Okay, we're going to get the forecast. Okay, so this is sitting at net margins at like 8% forecast, which isn't good. EPS growth is decent uh in the way of a forecast. Let's see here. Let's write that down here. So I've got 4963 divided by84 equals it's trading for 59 times and growth is 31 74 34 55 32 6417.07 07= / 4 29% expected growth and um PEG is therefore 59 divided by 20 oh my gosh 2.95 uh which is very very rich for a company forecasting 12 to 13% net margin versions. Uh probably closer to 1.3ish maybe justified likeish. Um so maybe you could justify one six. Okay. Um, I think even that would be high because the margins are relatively low. So, I'll go 13. So, if I go 13, 1.3 peg times 20% expected growth at 84 cents currently, that gives me a price target of about 21 bucks. So, you know, it's got some it's got like some juice already in it. Yeah. Unless obviously the margins expand a lot. Um would would would need a margin expansion here.
好的,那很不幸。让我稍后也获取他们的财报电话会议。但我这里还有另一条信息可以补充。这是喷气动力攻击无人机,靶机。他们的旗舰产品是XQ-58A Valkyrie低成本无人机。好的。
然后他们收购了Orbit,我们看到了关于卫星通信的。我们有喷气发动机。他们与波音在Jams上有合作。嗯,我实际上调出了那张表。我们稍后就能看到。嗯,他们与军方有合同,实际上有些就在过去48小时内。
所以,他们就是不断扩展他们的合同。总积压订单,总积压订单21亿美元,投标管道150亿美元。无人机的TAM预计到2030年将增长到29亿美元。嗯,全年自由现金流预测为9500万美元。
所以烧钱来加速生产。但这是,你知道,现在估值不便宜。很贵。你知道,它现在的交易价格像软件利润率一样。
Okay, that's unfortunate. Let me get the earnings call from them as well in just a moment. But I've got another piece right here that we could add to this as well. This is jet powered attributable drones, target drones. Their flagship product is the XQ58 a Valkyrie lowcost UAV. Okay. Then we've got they acquired orbit we saw regarding satcoms. We got the jet engines. They've got partnerships on Jams with Boeing. Uh, I actually pulled that sheet up. We'll be able to see that in just a moment. Uh, they've got contracts with the military actually some within just even the last 48 hours. So, they just kind of keep expanding their contracts. Total backlog total backlog of 2.1 billion and bid pipeline of 15 billion. The TAM for drones is expected to grow to 2.9 billion by 2030. Uh in full year free cash flow forecast is 95 million. So burning money to ramp up production. But this is this is and and you know it's a it's not a cheap valuation right now. It's pricey. You know it's trading for like a software margin right now.
好的,完美。那么,让我们调出那次财报电话会议,然后我们再看。那么,让我们看看,那次财报电话会议在哪里?找到了。开始吧。好的,这是他们的电话会议。让我们看看这里的无人机部分。有关于无人机的任何内容吗?
某些喷气式无人机,配备喷气发动机,提高了性能,缩短了上市时间。机会的数量从未如此之多。所以这是他们为无人机感到兴奋的地方。国防部正寻求更多地投资于Katos无人机。然后我们不仅有无人机、导弹、太空军备竞赛,还有高超音速无人机竞赛,Ktos打算支持对各种无人机机会的投资分类转变。
战术喷气式飞机。另一边的可消耗魔法师。杠铃将是一个棘手的问题。等等等等。这是什么?我们的太空业务在无人机方面发展迅猛。我们将非常谨慎。什么?而且我们可能无法在发货时向您报告,直到发货并出现在数字中。
在那之前,我们没有太多可说的。哦,听着。除非也许对于无人系统,您能否为我们提供更多关于这将在2027年下半年如何进展的信息?看看这里的谜团。现在我必须小心,因为客户。好的,我们不能在这方面提供太多细节。
他们故意含糊其辞。那三项业务正在蓬勃发展。他们说高超音速、发动机和太空业务。太空业务正在蓬勃发展。在无人机方面,我们将非常谨慎,我们可能无法向您报告,直到发货并出现在数字中,我们可能无法多说,但您会知道它是什么。
对不起,我不喜欢那样运作,但我们必须根据客户告诉我们的来做。暗示,暗示,眨眼,眨眼。[笑声] 嗯嗯。暗示,暗示。[笑声]
Okay, perfect. So, let's go get that earnings call up and then uh we'll go from there. So, let's get Where is that earnings call? Got it. Here we go. Uh, okay. So, this is their call. Let's look at drone in here. Anything on drone? Certain crotch jet drones flying with jet engines increased performance time to market and time to market. The number of opportunities has never been stronger. So this is where they get excited about drones. Uh Department of War is looking to invest more uh into Katos drones. Then we've got it's not only a drone, missile, space arms race, but a hypersonic drone race each which intends which Ktos intends on supporting shift in the classification of investments for various drone opportunities. Tactical fire jet. Tennable expendable magicians on the other side. A barbell going to be a handful. Blah blah blah. What is this? Our space business is ripping on the drone side. We're going to be very cautious. What? And we may not be able to report to you when we ship until we ship and it shows up in the numbers. Until then, we don't have that much to say. Oh, listen. Unless maybe to the unmanned systems, can you provide us with a little bit more color about how that should progress through the second half of 2027? Look at the mystery here. Right now I have to be careful because of the customer. All right, we can't give much detail on this. They're purposely being vague here. Uh those three businesses are ripping. They're saying hypersonics, engines, and the space business. Space business is ripping. On the drone side, we're going to be very cautious and we may not be able to report it to you until we ship and it shows up in the numbers and we may not be able to say much about it, but you're going to know what it is. And I'm sorry, I don't like to operate that way, but we have to based on what the customers have told us. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. [laughter] Uhhuh. Nudge, nudge. [laughter]
所以书签预测基本上假设会有,让我们看看第四季度,好的,这没问题,这是在预测现金流出售Valkyries,我认为他们的增长有很大可能会高得多,因为他们将受到来自美国联邦政府的大量资金冲击,而且他们的股票已经下跌了不少。
So bookmarks forecast basically assumes there's going to be let's see Q4 okay fine this is on forecast cash flow sale of Valkyries I think there there's a high chance their growth is going to be a lot higher because they're just going to get pummeled by money from the United fades and their stock has come down quite a bit.
能源部确保核资产安全,是核资产的移动可运输主要系统集成商。所以就在这里。项目。我们获得了资金,正如你可能看到的,与能源部有关,它涉及确保,哦,它涉及确保核资产安全。这是一个移动和可运输的系统。
Department of Energy securing nuclear assets is mobile transportable prime system integrator for nuclear assets. So that's right here. Program. We got funding for it as you probably saw with the Department of Energy and it's related to securing Oh, it's related to securing nuclear assets. It's a mobile and transportable system.
包括定向能系统。我们负责整个系统的运作,包括定向能系统。那通常像是激光,嗯,激光和核武器,也许瞄准?这有点模糊,对吧?有点模糊。嗯,但那也可能是反无人机。
Including the directed energy system. We are responsible for the entire system working including the directed energy system. Is that that's usually like lasers eh lasers and nuclear weapons maybe targeting? It's kind of like vague there, right? A little little vague. Uh but that could also be counter drone.
这是一个与确保安全相关的移动和可运输系统。哦,但这些可能是反无人机,比如激光来防护,对吧?啊,所以我认为这些是定向能,也就是反无人机,用于保护核设施,可能就是这样。激光。我的意思是,那很酷。嗯,还有反无人机。
It's a mobile and transportable system related to securing. Oh, but oh, these could be counter drones like lasers to to shield, right? Ah, so I think these are directed energy aka counter drone for protecting um nuclear sites possibly. That's probably what it is. The lasers. I mean, that's pretty cool. uh and counter drone.
好的,我们相信这个项目将大幅增长,因为现在需要这种能力。它必须低成本。所以,我们在蒙大拿州做这些系统,现在正在提升。它将在第四季度变得重要,并将在2027年继续提升。哦,在这里。反无人驾驶无人机系统太阳能防护罩。
Okay, we believe the program is going to grow significantly because of the type of capability is needed right now. It has to be a low low cost. So, we're doing the systems in M Montana uh and it's ramping now. It's going to be big in Q4 and it's going to continue to ramp in 2027. Oh, here it is. Counter uh unmanned drone system solar shield.
我们看了Valkyrie的生产,每月1.5架飞机。我们相信进入2027年,我们将平均达到每月一架半。嗯,Valkyrie的生产。
We looked at that Valkyrie production 1.5 aircraft per month. We believe we get into 2027 we will be up to one and a half planes on average. Uh Valkyrie Valk production.
让我们看看。好的。2027年我们将处理我们的美国客户,希望还有台湾客户和国务院。这些飞机价格在300万到1000万美元之间。
So let's see. Okay. 2027 we'll handle our US customer hopefully the Taiwan customer state department. these uh aircraft are 3 to 10 mil.
40,或者我说18。我在几次电话会议前提到过,我们认为我们试图达到平均40。未来每年40架将等于,你知道,平均六架乘以40。那就是2.4亿美元的收入,仅此一项的潜在收入。
40 or I'll say 18. I mentioned a couple calls ago, we think we're trying to look to get to an average of 40. 40 per year in future would equal, you know, call it six on average times 40. That's 240 mil revenue uh potential here alone.
所以,你知道,回到他们的收入,因为他们现在是一家较小的公司。那就像他们收入的一半,对吧?是的。他们有很好的产品销售,产品销售实际上只是,那将字面上使他们的产品销售翻倍。
So, you know, go back to their income since they're a smaller company right now. That's like half their income, right? Yeah. They've got well product sales product sales are actually only that would literally double their product sales right now.
而仅这一个垂直领域就能使他们的产品销售翻倍。这一个垂直领域将使他们的产品销售翻倍。嗯,他们的产品利润率很高。182除以237。他们目前的产品毛利率只有23%。23%的毛利率。
And this one vertical alone would double their product sales. This one vertical would double their product sales. Uh, and their product margins sit it's pricey. 182 divided by 237. Their gross profit margins are only 23% on products right now. 23% GP.
目前毛利率23%。但如果每股收益增长快于预期,嗯,估值可能比看起来更便宜,对吧?尤其是考虑到特朗普政府注入的大量资金,或者换句话说,
23% a GP right now. But if EPS grows faster than expected, uh, valuation might be cheaper than it appears, right? Especially with the amount of money getting pumped in from the Trump administration or other words,
这是瓦尔基里生产。瓦尔基里相关系统是什么?看,这里的瓦尔基里系统无人驾驶部分只有590万。所以,看起来他们好像只卖了一架瓦尔基里,对吧?所以他们非常早期。
Shahed. Oh, thanks. Okay, so this is Valkyrie production. What is this Valkyrie related systems? See, Valkyrie Systems here unmanned was only 5.9 million. So, it's like they show sold like one Valkyrie, right? So, they're super early.
上个季度只有800万。我认为是800万。可能更少,但不管怎样,它很低。哦,590万。哇。所以,那就是增长垂直领域。
Uh, only 8 mil last quarter. I think it's at 8 mil. Might have been less, but it whatever it was, it was low. Oh, 5.9 mil. Wow. So, that's where the growth vertical is.
工厂映射到与GE合作的导弹中。这是什么涡轮风扇?这些大约600磅推力及以上。复杂。工厂将在俄克拉荷马州投入运营。
Factory mapped into missiles lurp with GE. What is this on turbo fans? These are roughly 600 lb of thrust and up. Sophisticated. Uh factories going to be up and running in Oklahoma.
那是与GE的合作。50/50的合作。有趣。所以他们确实有合作。2027年将建造3000台能源或3000台发动机,至少3000台用于客户。
Uh that's a partnership with GE. 5050 partnership. Uh interesting. So they do have a partnership. 3,000 energy or 3,000 engines to be built in 2027 and at least 3,000 for customers.
JDAM LR,我们已经设计了这些,计划建造,表明我们需要在27、28、29年建造,我们已经下了远期订单,这些是用于喷气发动机的,用于所谓的斯巴达家族Jams,它们是导弹类型,巡航导弹,接下来会有成千上万的低成本30万美元的巡航导弹。
JDAM LR we've designed those plan to build indicate we need to build 27 28 29 we've linked forward placed orders now these are for the jet engines for the um what's it called uh the Spartan family Jams they're types of missiles cruise missiles multiple tens of thousands of lowcost $300,000 cruise missiles that are coming next here.
哇,这太疯狂了。太有趣了。GE合作,Blade Works设施,他们生产涡轮风扇的地方。Kattos在俄克拉荷马州的新Blade Works设施,我们最近在那里破土动工,计划生产涡轮风扇。
Wow, this is crazy. That's so interesting. GE partnership, Blade Works facility, where they produce the turbo fan. Kattos's new Blade Works facility in Oklahoma where we recently broke ground and plan to produce the turboan.
所以,这有点像Elon想要进入的领域。发动机业务将在未来几年成为最大和增长最快的业务。高超音速业务产生了他们大部分的收入,或在2025年产生了2亿美元,目前2026年大约在4亿美元。
So, this is kind of like what Elon wants to get into. The engine business is going to be the largest and fastest growing in the coming years. The hypersonics generated most of their revenue or generated 200 million in 2025 currently tracking about 400 million in 2026.
所以看起来他们大部分收入来自高超音速,这可能只是喷气推进火箭发动机。火箭发动机和喷气发动机现在似乎是他们最大的业务。
So it seems like most of their uh revenue comes from hypersonics which is probably just jet propelled rocket motors. Rocket motors and jet engines uh seem to be the biggest business for them right now.
是的,这里谈论了俄罗斯和中国,以及美国在高超音速方面迎头赶上的重要性。有趣。Blade Works设施。斯巴达发动机平均价格5万美元。那太迷人了。斯巴达发动机价格。
Yeah, here's the talk about Russia and China and how important it is for the US to catch up on hypersonics. Interesting. Blade works facility. Spartan engine average price $50,000. That's fascinating. Uh Spartan engine price.
这太酷了。空军希望在接下来的六到七年内采购11,000架。战争机器。仅JDAM就可能成为Kattos最大的单一机会之一。
This is so cool. Air Force wants to acquire 11,000 over the next six to seven years. The war machine. JDAM alone could be one of the single largest opportunities for Kattos.
哇。哇。让我看看我们有什么亮点,因为你知道,以这些利润率来看,它被高估了,但高超音速业务预计将翻倍。我们从财报电话会议中看到了这一点。
Wow. Wow. Let me see what uh highlights we have because the you know with these margins it's it's overvalued but the hypersonic franchise is projected to double. We saw that from the earnings call.
福特为Spartan涡轮喷气发动机带来的收益。这些都在Mikv应用的股票标签中。Valkyrie生产规模扩大。
Ford earnings for uh Spartan turboan jet engines. This is all in the stock um stock tab in the Mikv app. Valkyrie production scaling.
高超音速收入翻倍。我们看到了这一点。目前依赖一些L3 Aero固体火箭。好的。生产爬坡资本支出。
Doubling the hypersonic revenues. We saw that currently relying on some L3 aero solid rockets. Okay. Production ramp capex.
所以,如果我现在去看Ktos,它会显示被高估,因为利润率很差。是的。目前下行空间为63%。不过资产负债表很好。是的,因为他们刚刚筹集了大量资金。
So if I go to Ktos right now, it's going to say it's overvalued because the margins suck. Yeah. 63% downside for this right now. Uh balance sheet good though. Yeah, cuz they just raised a ton of freaking money.
所以,我们稍后会看一下。但我们也来看看股市。我们也可以对此进行斐波那契回撤。可能会跌到,我是说,之前,它有一段时间很便宜,是吧?它是个小初创公司。然后在伊朗战争前夕变得非常昂贵。
So, we'll look at that in just a moment. But let's also take a peek at stock market. We could also do a uh a fib retrace on this. Probably go down to I mean pre Man, it was cheap for a while there, huh? It's a little startup. It's And then it got super expensive during uh the leadup to the Iran war.
不太确定在哪里设置回撤。我可能会在这里,23美元。那是……是的,我可能会在这里。去2390。好的,让我们指定一下。1342390。我们从这个开始,看看效果如何。
Not exactly sure where to throw a retracement on this. I might go right here to 23 bucks. That was co. Yeah, I might go down here. Go to 2390. All right, let's specify that. 1342390. We'll start with that and we'll see how that looks.
实际上不错。天哪。看看那个。完美地击中了这两个。呃,三次反弹在这里。反弹,拒绝,拒绝,击中,击中,基本上现在就在那里。
Not bad, actually. Holy smokes. Look at that. Perfectly nailed these two. Uh, three bounces here. A bounce, reject, reject, nailed, nailed, and basically sitting there right now.
所以从技术上讲,如果我们失去这条线,可能会回撤到2390。但你知道,它开始看起来像是一家只有90亿美元的公司。
So technically we could retrace back down if we lose this line here to 2390. But you know it starts looking like it's only a9 billion company.
那么Kattos,股票Ktos,Kos,与这一切有什么关系?
And what is Kattos, the stock Ktos, Kos, have anything to do with all of this?
呃,所以防御措施在增长。呃,这就是Katos真正发挥作用的地方。所以,我们将对KTOS进行基本面分析,看看他们到底在开发什么,以及这如何应用于正在进行的这场竞赛。
Uh, so the defenses are growing. Uh, and that's where Katos actually comes into play. And so, we're going to do a fundamental analysis on KTOS to see exactly what they're developing and how this applies to exactly this race that's going on.
你可以在Katos的财报电话会议中看到,第四季度很重要,因为这个项目。我们获得了资金。能源部正在寻找公司来帮助保护核资产。他们正在开发一个移动和可运输的系统,KTOS是负责整个系统工作的主要承包商,包括定向能武器,目标是低成本拦截这些无人机,这些技术现在才刚刚开始爬坡,并将在2027年继续爬坡。
You can see here in the Katos uh earnings call Q4 is important because of this program. We got funding for it. The Department of Energy is looking for companies to help secure nuclear assets. They're developing a mobile and transportable system where KTOS is the prime contractor responsible for the entire system working including the directed energy weapons where the goal is to intercept these drones at a low low cost and these technologies are just now ramping and ramping into 2027.
Katos认为喷气发动机将是他们最大的增长垂直领域之一。不,我只是坦诚地说。我对国防承包商或CTO没有任何敞口。所以,我并不是因为自己投资了才试图吹捧这只股票。我们现在只是在研究这个,发现它非常有趣。
which Katos thinks one of the biggest growth verticals they're going to have is jet engines. No, and I just be transparent. I don't have any exposure to the defense contractors or CTO. So, I'm not trying to like shill the stock because like I'm investing in. We're just looking at this now and and studying this and we find this very interesting.
这就是Kattos所说的,我们可能正在研究一个潜在的解决方案。
and that's where Kattos is like, we might be working on a potential solution.
说到以色列人,Kattos刚刚收购了一家以色列公司,名为Orbit Technologies Limited,他们是一家为无人机(UAV)以及导弹提供卫星通信的公司。他们明确表示自己是移动和无人驾驶、海基、海底和陆地系统以及其他系统的关键任务卫星通信的全球领先供应商。其他系统可能包括火箭。
Kattos, speaking of Israelis, just acquired a company that was an Israeli company called Orbit Technologies Limited, and they are a satcoms for drones companies uh for UAVs, but also for missiles. They specifically say leading global provider of mission criti critical satellitebased communications for mobile and unmanned aerial, seaborn, undersea, and land systems as well as other systems. Other systems are probably like rockets.
所以,如果我们看一下Katos的财报电话会议,他们在这里谈到了一些非常有趣的事情。他们有一份价值1.5亿美元的合同,用于反无人机飞行器或系统,作为“太阳盾”计划的一部分。
So, if we look at the earnings call for Katos, there's some really interesting things that they talk about here. And they have $150 million contract for counter uh unmanned aerial vehicles or systems called the as part of the solar shield program.
所以,如果我现在直接跳到KTOS给出的一些暗示。看这个。一位分析师问到了无人系统和这些无人驾驶无人机系统的指导。总裁兼首席执行官说了以下内容。由于客户的原因,我们必须非常小心。
所以我们不能深入细节,因为那会泄露我们正在做的事情。我们的高超音速业务、发动机业务基本上,以及太空业务,这些业务正在蓬勃发展。但在无人机方面,我们将非常谨慎,我们可能无法报告,直到我们发货并且它出现在数字中。
即使到那时,我们可能也无法多说,但你会知道它是什么。这是一个非常明显的暗示,在未来一年里,Kattos预计将大幅增加其无人机武器或Valkyries或发动机系统的交付,以帮助支持轰炸行动或其他行动。
So if I now just jump into some of the hints that KTOS gives. Look at this. An analyst asks about unmanned systems and guidance on these unmanned drone systems. And the president and CEO says the following. We have to be very careful here because of the customer. So we can't get into too much detail on this because then it will give away what we're doing. Our hypersonics business, the engine business basically, and the space business, those businesses are ripping. But on the uh on the drone side, we're going to be very cautious and we not may not be able to report it until we ship it and it shows up in the numbers. And even then, we may not be able to say much about it, but you're going to know what it is. This is a really big nudge nudge wink wink that over the next year Kattos is really expected to explode their deliveries of drone either weapons or Valkyries or um engine systems to help enable bombing campaigns or otherwise.
Kattos最近正在提供Spartan J85发动机。这些是他们生产的涡轮喷气发动机,以支持波音的JDAM生产合同。换句话说,波音正在联系KTO说:“嘿,你们能为我们的导弹计划(基本上是与国防部合作)供应这些喷气发动机吗?”
Kattos recently uh Katos is providing Spartan J85 engines. Those are their turboan engines that they produce to support Boeing's JDAM production contract. So in other words, Boeing is hitting up KTO saying, "Hey, can you guys help supply these jet engines for our missile program basically with the Department of Defense?"
现在,Cronto是一家非常小的公司,市值不到100亿美元,但这里有聪明的Spartan系列喷气发动机。他们还生产Valkyrie飞机。那就在这里的某个地方。我想我相信就是这个。
这是在他们空中部门下,但我相信这是Valkyrie,但我不确定。但无论如何,他们有一个Valkyrie飞机系统。哦,在这里。是XQ58 Alpha。是的。是的。好的。那是Valkyrie。
那是Valkyrie。Valkyrie。这些东西每件售价在300万到1000万美元之间。
Now, Cronto is a very small company, less than $10 billion company, but here's the smart a Spartan line of jet engine. They also produce the uh the Valkyrie aircraft. That's somewhere in here. I think I believe that's this. This is under their their air, but I I believe this is the Valkyrie, but I'm not sure. But anyway, they've got a Valkyrie uh aircraft system. Oh, here it is. It's the XQ58 Alpha. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It was the Valkyrie. That was Valkyrie. The Valkyrie. These things trade for somewhere between $3 to $10 million a piece.
我认为Ktos的数字真正有趣的是,如果你只看Valkyrie的生产,他们认为每年可以生产大约40架。如果我假设每架Valkyrie的中间价为600万美元,每年40架乘以600万美元就是2.4亿美元的年度潜在收入。
那是年度潜在收入。他们上个季度只生产了约590万美元的Valkyrie收入。所以这只是他们业务中非常小的一部分。
And what I think is really interesting about the Ktos numbers is that if you just look at Valkyrie production alone right here, they think they can get to about 40 of these produced per year. If I assume a sort of midpoint of $6 million per Valkyrie, 40 per year times 6 million would be $240 million of annual potential revenue. That's annual potential revenue. Uh they only produced about $5.9 million of Valkyrie revenue uh last quarter. So very very small portion of their business.
他们现在真正赚钱的地方似乎是Spartan发动机。他们称之为最大的单一机会之一,预计将销售数万个这样的系统。目前,我们计划首批订购3000台Spartan涡轮喷气发动机。我们预计在2028年再生产5000台。每台价值约5万美元。
Where they really seem to make a lot of money right now is on the Spartan engine. They call it one of the single largest opportunities with tens of thousands of those systems expected to be sold. Right now, we're planning initial orders of 3,000 Spartan turbo jet engines. We expect to produce an additional 5,000 in 2028. Each of them worth about $50,000.
在这里,Katos在俄克拉荷马州有一个Blade Works工厂,他们最近在那里破土动工,以帮助生产这些涡轮风扇。他们的高超音速业务有望从2025年到2026年翻一番,他们预计KTOS发动机业务将成为公司历史上最大、增长最快的业务。
Here, Katos has a Blade Works facility in Oklahoma where they've recently broken ground to help produce these turbo fans. Their hypersonics business is on pace to double from 2025 to 2026 and they expect their KTOS engine business to be the largest and fastest growing in the company's history.
所以这里有一个小市值公司,正在做这种垂直信息或产品。问题来了。他们有负的自由现金流。我们预计平均每年大约有负1亿美元的现金流。这个季度他们已经大约在-47了。那是很多。所以可能甚至更多。
预测的负自由现金流是负9500万。可能比那更多。他们的资产负债表现在还可以,因为他们筹集了很多资金。他们发行了很多股票。他们筹集了很多资金。所以他们有大约10亿美元的自由现金流。
10亿美元的自由现金流。所以如果你每年拿出2亿美元的资本支出,他们基本上有五年的资本支出预算。所以那相当不错。你知道,他们有一个不错的资产负债表,长期债务方面很低。整体收入增长约22.8%。
So here's a small market cap company that's doing exactly this sort of vertical of information or of of product. Here's the problem. They have negative free cash flow. We're expecting somewhere around negative hundred million dollars of cash flow per year on average. This quarter they were sitting at about -47 already. That's a lot. So that might even be more. Forecast negative free cash flow is negative 95 million. It might be more than that. Their balance sheet is okay now because they raised a bunch of money. They issued a bunch of stock. They raised a bunch of money. So they have about a billion bucks free of free cash flow. 1 billion of free cash flow. So if you take uh 200 mil of capex per year, they have five years of capex budget basically. So that's pretty good. You know, they've they've got a decent balance sheet, low on the long-term debt side. Revenue growth overall growing about 22.8%.
我的毛利上升约21%,表明他们的利润率相对稳定。我们有资本信息。然后问题来了。公司的估值现在有点贵。按照未来的利润率,他们预期的净利润率,我的意思是他们现在的净利润率低得可耻。
他们的净收入是11.9除以371。净利润率现在是3.2%。所以预测的利润率使他们接近12%到13%。那真的意味着他们证明约1.3的PEG是合理的。所以他们很贵。他们不便宜。你可以,我的意思是他们现在以软件倍数交易。
I've got uh gross profit coming up about 21% suggesting that their margins are relatively stable. We uh have got the carp information. And then here's the problem. Valuation valuation of the company is a little bit rich right now. It at at the future margins, the net margins they expect, I mean their net margin right here is shamefully low. Their net income is 11.9 divided by 371. Net margins 3.2% right now. So forecast margins put them at close to 12 to 13%. That really means they justify about a 1.3 peg. So they are expensive. They are not cheap. You can I mean right now they're trading for software multiples.
所以如果我们调出股票AI工具,我们会看到现在股票AI工具告诉我们这家公司处于更昂贵的一边。所以这是我们要做的。我们将打开Reinvest终端应用。你可以看到我们在右上角激活了小的终端标签。
我们将输入KTOS,我们可以看到这里的资产负债表被评为重。我同意这一点。定价权利润率稳定。所以那里相当中性。移动平均线,股票已经下跌了一点。但估值真的很高。所以我们在估值上有一个红旗。
所以我们预计它实际上会说我们这里有一个负的预测回报率。所以当我们打开这个时,果然,它在那里。股价的潜在预测为负62%。那把它降到公司现在的公平估值。它非常昂贵,而且经历了一次巨大的波动。
So if we pull up the stock AI tool, we're going to see that right now the stock AI tool is telling us this company is on the more expensive side. Uh so here's how we're going to do this. We're going to open up the uh Reinvest terminal app. And uh you can see we got the little terminal tab activated at the top right there. We're going to type in KTOS and uh we can see here the balance sheet is rated heavily. I would agree with that. Pricing power margins are stable. So it's pretty neutral there. Moving average, the stock has come down a little bit. Uh but the valuation is really high. So we have a red flag on valuation. So we're going to expect that it's actually going to say we have a negative forecast rate of return here. So when we open this up, sure enough, there it is. Negative 62% potential forecast on the stock price. That's bringing it down to a fair valuation for the company right now. It's very pricey and it's gone through one heck of uh a move here.
让我们在周线图上放大一点。看看它经历的爆炸。它真的像模因股一样上涨,他们在模因涨势中筹集了资金,这很完美,漂亮地从模因挤压中筹集了资金,但现在他们正在回到现实,坦白说,如果它跌到大约24美元,这可能是一个买入点,因为那将是一个技术回撤,并且它将与股票标签对这家公司的公平价值估计非常接近。
Let's go zoom out for a moment on the week chart. Take a look at that explosion that it had. it really meme rallied and they raised money during the meme rally which was perfect, beautiful raised money from the meme squeeze, but now they're coming back down to reality and uh frankly this could be a buy if it came down to about 24 bucks uh because that would be a technical retracement and it would really closely align with the fair value estimate that the stock tab has for this company.
现在,如果你向下滚动这家公司,你可以自动看到我们拥有的很多信息。这是Meet Kevin应用。你可以在这里看到很多信息,比如高超音速业务翻倍,可能超过7亿,明年几乎再次翻倍。喷气发动机的单位经济性。
很多我们手动研究的东西已经内置在里面了,这真的很了不起。
Uh now if you scroll down through this company you can actually automatically see a lot of the information that we have. This is the meet Kevin app. Uh you can see a lot of the information here such as that doubling of the hypersonic business to potentially over 700 million almost to double again next year. The unit economics on the jet engine. A lot of this that you know we manually researched is is already just built into this which is really phenomenal.
这个频道对 $KTOS 的历次判断
Meet Kevin 在这只股票上共 2 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。