LVMH 估值合理,上行空间取决于能否恢复增长;若无法恢复增长,则风险高而回报低。
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一段时间以来,关于 Louis Vuitton 股票的请求很多。我们来看一下。当请求很多时,通常是因为该股较此前高点大幅下跌,而每个人都想在这只股票回到此前高点时快速让自己的钱翻倍。
a lot of requests over time for Louis Vuitton stock. Let's check it. When there are a lot of requests, it's usually because the stock is down significantly from previous highs and everybody wants just to quickly double their money if this returns to the previous highs.
在本视频中,我们将讨论这种情况发生的可能性。这总是有可能发生的。请记住这一点。市盈率处于数十年来的低位。每次它这么低的时候,都是买入这样一家公司的绝佳时机。
In this video, we're going to discuss the chances for that to happen. That can always happen. Bear that in mind. The P ratio is at multi-deade lows. Every time it was this low, it was a great time to buy a company like this.
如果我们看这项业务,这家奢侈品零售商,他们什么都有一点。这是上半年销售额,25 亿,随着下半年业绩的计入,很可能还会更多。
If we look at the business, the luxury retailer, so they have a little bit of everything. This is H1 sales, 2 and a half billion, likely more as the second part of the year comes in.
葡萄酒和烈酒。幸好我不喝酒,所以这些品牌我一个都不认识。然后是时装和皮具。这是业务的核心。Louis Vuitton、Christian Dior,以及那里的所有其他品牌。
Wine and spirits. Fortunately, I don't drink alcohol, so I don't know any of these brands. Then we have fashion and leather goods. Core of the business. Louis Vuitton, Christian Dior, and all the other brands there.
香水、化妆品、手表和珠宝。他们不久前收购了 Tiffany's、Bulgari,以及你每次去大城市时看到的所有其他品牌。
Perfumes, cosmetics, watches and jewelry. They acquired Tiffany's just a while ago, Bulgari, and all the other brands that you see whenever you visit a bigger city.
零售街区几乎大多是 LVMH。还有一些更便宜的零售,Sephora、Lebo Marsh 之类的。而这项业务的关键因素是街头的零售。
The retail street is practically mostly LVMH. Some other cheaper retailing, Sephora, Lebo Marsh, things like that. And the key factor for this business is retail on the streets.
如果我们去看整个业务,他们说第二季度收入增长在加速。而这正是投资时的关键因素。如果他们恢复增长,市盈率就回到 30。没有增长,市盈率就是 10 到 15。但只要有恢复增长的任何迹象,盈利改善,估值改善,你的钱就翻倍。
If we go and look at the whole business, they say the revenue is accelerating growth in Q2. And that is the key factor when it comes to investing. If they return to growth, the P ratio returns to 30.
No growth, P ratio 10 to 15. But if there is any sign of return to growth, earnings improve, the valuation improves and you double your money.
在全球范围内充分多元化,而这一切都取决于奢侈品消费将如何发展。利润率很好,这方面没有问题。尽管时局不确定,净利润依然不错。现金流创造良好,几乎没有债务。所以相对于股权的负债非常低,即便我们可以讨论股权的真实价值。
Well diversified across the world and it all depends on how the luxury spending will go. Great margins, nothing wrong there. Good net profits despite the uncertain times. Good cash flow generation, no debt practically.
So very low to the equity even if we can discuss the true value of the equity.
不过,我们来讨论一下财务的演变。当然,它曾是一只成长股。在略多于十年的时间里,这几乎是 4 倍。而它正是为这种稳定性、出色的利润而定价的。在这 12 年里,利润增长了 5 倍。
But okay, let's discuss the evolution of the financials. Of course, it was a growth stock. This is almost 4x over a little bit more than a decade. And it was priced for that stability, great profits. Profits were 5x over these 12 years.
所以对于这样一项业务,它是有定价的。然而,2023 年之后一切都变了一点,那也正是该股的峰值,如今股价已大幅走低,低了 53%。
So when it comes to such a business, it is priced. So however, everything changed a little bit after 2023 and that was also the peak of the stock that is now significantly lower, 53% lower.
然而,如果我们看那里的情况,我们会时不时看到一笔大收购,但大部分钱是通过分红和回购返还的,同时也有可观的资本支出,大约 80 亿返还给股东。
However, if we look at the situation there, we see here and there a big acquisition, but most of the money is returned through dividends and repurchases, but there is also significant capital expenditure around 8 billion return to shareholders.
那么,投资这家公司的下一步是什么?所有这些品牌都将取决于消费。但对投资者来说,如果净利润上升到 130 亿,市盈率就到 30,那就成了。你会很快回到我们此前所在的位置。
So, what's next for investing in the company? All these brands will depend on spending. But for investors, if net income goes up to 13 billion, P ratio goes to 30, there you have it.
You have a quick return to where we were before.
也许甚至到 400 到 650,你就赚到了你的回报。只要有某种增长,这只股票就上涨 50%。然而,如果我们看分析师们在说什么,他们在等待奢侈品消费的复苏,并质疑这种复苏是否真的会到来。
Perhaps even 400 to 650, you make your return. Any kind of growth, this stock is 50% up. However, if we look at what the analysts are saying, they are waiting for a recovery in luxury spending and questioning whether that recovery will actually arrive.
奢侈品在股市里是如此奢华,以至于还有一个欧洲奢侈品指数。这太疯狂了。我们最近也简短讨论过 Luxotica,但如今奢侈品板块的动能也在走软,这就是该股下跌的原因。
Luxury was so luxurious in the stock market that there is also an index of European luxury. That is crazy. And we discussed as Luxotica recently in a quick short but also there is now softer momentum in the luxury sector and that's why the stock is down.
如果那里出现任何反转,你就赚到钱了。所以问题始终是:在动能较弱、情况看起来糟糕、股价只有此前一半的时候买入股票更好,还是在一切看起来都好的时候买入更好。
If there is any reversal there you make your money. So this is always the question when it is better to buy a stock when the momentum is weaker and things look ugly and the stock price is half of what it was or when everything looks good.
当然,分析师们总是提到,对奢侈品零售商下半年的可见度有限。但如果三年后情况好转,股价开始上涨,你就赚到钱了,你能赚50%。假设到第二年,那就是每年20%的投资回报率。
And of course analysts are always citing limited visibility into the luxury retailers for the second half of the year. But if in three years things improve and this starts to go up, you make your money, you make 50%.
Let's say in year two that's plus 20% return on investment per year.
我们需要了解未来一两年市场的情况,才能判断奢侈品方面的支出是否会上升。不幸的是,利率正在上升,这意味着我们过去大约10到15年所享受的那些过度行为可能会逆转。利率更高,赌博更少,钱更少,那些只押注于利差、被这些伟大企业家追捧的Gucci之类的东西也会更少。
所以奢侈品这块的情况可能会逆转,Tiffany更少,香槟更少。
We need to know the market for the next year or two to see whether spending on luxury things will go up. Unfortunately, interest rates are going up which means that the excesses that we have enjoyed the last 10ish 15 years might revert. higher interest rates, less gambling, less money, less Gucci smoochi for the bimbos of all these great entrepreneurs that are just betting on the interest rate spread.
So that luxury situation might revert less Tiffany, less champagne.
然后,在投资方面的问题是,好吧,如果增长发生了会怎样?但问题同样是,如果增长没有发生会怎样?我对现有的东西满意吗?
And then the question when it comes to investing is okay, what if the growth happens? But also the question is what if the growth doesn't happen? Am I happy with what is there already?
如果增长没有发生,如果我们看每股收益在30见顶,现在到了20,但你必须问自己,我对3.25%的股息率满意吗?
If the grow doesn't happen, if we look at earnings per share peaking at 30, now at 20, but you have to ask yourself, am I happy with the 3.25% dividend yield?
然后我们还可以看看如果情况发生变化会怎样。我稍微看了一下10年前的市盈率,当时情况稍弱一些。中国的支出,当时世界不是个好地方,欧洲危机之类的,如果我没记错的话,市盈率大约在18。
And then we can also check what happens if things change. And then I looked a little bit at the P ratios 10 years ago when it was a little bit the weaker situation. China spending this the world was not a nice place European crisis things like that and the P ratio was around 18 if I'm not mistaken
问题是市盈率能否降到13,那将是真正危机中才会发生的事,那样市值将是1000亿。所以这里我们有我们的内在价值表,LVMH,点这里,这里我们有估值,现在每股收益是22欧元。如果增长率只有5%,市盈率为20,内在价值大约就是当前的股价,为长期8%的回报定价。
the question is can the P ratio go to 13 that would be something happening in a true crisis and then the market cap would be 100 billion so here we have our intrinsic table LVMH just click here and here we have the valuation now earnings per share €22.
If there is a growth rate of just 5% P ratio of 20, the intrinsic value is around the current stock price priced for a return of 8% over the long term.
如果公司增长更快,达到7%,市盈率升得更高,那我们就已经被低估了。但如果增长恢复到,比如说,前5年10%,算一下,甚至比如说35乘以25,就是你在比如说4年期间的回报。35乘以25大约是7800,如果公司在未来四年恢复增长,你的钱就翻倍了。
If the company grows faster at 7% P ratio goes higher, then we are already undervalued. But if the growth returns to let's say 10% in the first 5 years, calculate perhaps even let's say 35 * 25 is your return in the let's say 4 year period. 35 * 25 around 7 800 you double your money if the company returns to growth over the next four years.
所以只要它们恢复增长,市盈率就会上升,然后从价值投资的角度你就能赚到钱。如果市盈率升到15,也许稍微保守一点,12,只要未来4%的增长,我们就到了,股价就被定价了,比如说为10%的回报合理定价。
So whenever they return to growth the P ratio will go up and then you make your money from a value investing perspective if the P ratio goes to 15 maybe bit little bit more conservative 12 just 4% growth going forward we are there the stock is priced let's say fairly priced for a 10% return
但你必须始终计算最坏的情况,如果有风险,如果出现巨大危机,那么奢侈品牌就会受损,事情就是这样。我们能预测这些东西吗?在我们的比较表上很难,为9%的回报定价?所以我们有几个,10 cent、Ahold、Visa,取决于你放入什么样的估算,还有Netflix。
所以定价和那里其他一些玩家类似,也许甚至包括Amazon。
but you have to always calculate the worst case scenario if there is a risk if there is a huge crisis then luxury brands will suffer and that is simply how it goes. Can we predict these things very hard on our comparative table priced for a 9% return?
So we have a few of them 10 cent ahold visa depending on what kind of estimations you put in Netflix into it. So priced like some of the other players there perhaps even Amazon
我们能讨论的最明智的事情是,它可能涨也可能跌。我们肯定无法预测未来6个月的奢侈品市场。现在看起来很难看,但关键问题是,你对股息满意吗?
the most intelligent thing we can discuss is can go up can go down. We surely cannot predict the luxury market in the next 6 months. It looks ugly now but the key question is are you happy with the dividend?
如果你满意,你就得看看,好吧,如果股价下跌,这是我的下行空间。我的上行空间是什么?
If you are, you have to see, okay, if the stock goes down, this is my downside. What's my upside?
所以,我的结论是,在这个市场里它的定价是合理的。如果市场发生变化,可能会变得非常难看,那么上行空间就非常有限。股息率相对较低。
So, my conclusion is this is fairly priced in this market. If the market changes can get very ugly, then the upside is very limited. The dividend yield is relatively low.
而对我个人来说,其他选择更好。从当前的角度看,我会把LVMH归为高风险低回报。但没错,如果增长恢复,那你很快就能每年赚10%到15%、20%。但那是建立在一个很大的如果之上。
And for me personally, other is better. From a current perspective, I would put LVMH here as a highly risk low return. But yes, if the growth returns, then you will quickly make 10 to 15 20% per year. But that is with a big if.
所以如果你想在投资组合里放点更激进的东西,如果一切前景都很好,如果所有这些AI公司开始变现,所有那些人开始花钱买Gucci之类的东西,那你就能赚到钱。如果不是,那就是一个相当有风险的局面。这就是简单的事实。
So if you want something more aggressive in your portfolio, if all things are great ahead, if all these AI companies start cashing in and all those guys start spending on Gucci smooches, then you can make your money.
If not, it is a pretty risky situation. And that's the simple truth.
没有分析师知道,没有人知道公司会从哪里走向何方。现在有上行的潜力。如果这种狂热的市场、这种经济支出中的牛市、这种不可持续的增长继续下去,未来几年有不错的上行空间,这只股票很容易翻倍。
No analyst knows, nobody knows where the company will go from. Now there is potential for upside. If this exuberant market, this bull market in the economy spending, this unsustainable growth continues, there is good upside in the next few years, this stock can easily double.
如果这种糟糕的局面持续下去,如果我们遭遇一场危机,这只股票很容易腰斩。而如果你无法承受这个事实,那你就不该碰它。
If the ugly continues, if we have a crisis, this stock can easily half. And if you can't handle that truth, then you should not touch
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Value Investing with Sven Carlin, Ph.D. 在这只股票上只有这一条判断。