市场对Meta资本开支的过度反应,在核心广告业务强劲的背景下,以13.5倍EBITDA买入创造了机会。
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我们讨论了微软。Meta 的业绩超出预期。Meta 本季度营收 600 亿美元,同比增长 28%。这是一个巨大的超预期。每股收益 6.18 美元,未达预期,盘前下跌。我说过这对我来说听起来很遗憾。
Um, we discussed Microsoft. Meta's beat. Meta had $60 billion of revenue in the quarter, up 28% year-over-year. That is a huge beat. Um, $6.18 earnings, missed earnings, down pre-market. I said that sounded like a shame to me.
让我们看看。Meta 的营收超出预期。我们讨论了每股收益未达预期 14.5%,净利润同比下降 14%。现金流,自由现金流,这个总结说自由现金流暴跌至 7.84 亿美元,而季度资本支出为 310 亿美元。
我不喜欢 Colott 这样表述自由现金流暴跌至 7.84 亿美元,而资本支出为 310 亿美元。这意味着他们花了很多钱在资本支出上。这几乎是零现金生成。全年资本支出指引为 1600 亿至 1450 亿美元。
Uh, let's see. Revenue for Meta E. So revenue was beat. We discussed EPS missed by 14 and a.5% and net income fell 14% year-over-year. Um the cash flow free cash flow this is saying this this recap cash flow collapsed to 784 million against $ 31 billion of quarterly capex. Okay, I don't like how Colott is phrasing that free cash flow collapsed to 784 billion against 31 billion. It means they spent a lot of money in capex is what that means. That's near zero cash generation for the company. Fullyear guidance for capex is 160 to $145 billion.
让我们看看 Meta 及其自由现金流。让我们调出一些图表。首先,一开始,Meta 的营收每年都在大幅增长。盈利也是如此,两者以及自由现金流都是如此。是的,资本支出在增长。你可以看到,在这张图表上很难看到,但你可以看到经营现金流和资本支出之间的差异。
这个差距在缩小。蓝色和紫色之间的距离在压缩。这意味着自由现金流减少,对吗?然而,如果这些资本支出投资得当,那么 Meta 的营收和盈利增长应该会加速。
Let's go take a look at Meta and their free cash flow. Um, let's pull up some charts. So, first of all, just out of the gate, revenue continues to move materially higher every year for Meta. Okay. As does earnings, both of those, and free cash flow. Yes, capex is growing. And you can see, it's going to be hard to see on this chart, but you can see the difference between um operating cash flow and capex. The delta, the spread there is narrowing in this chart. The distance between the blue and the purple, right? It's it's squeezing. That means there's less free cash flow. Correct? In however, if that capex is invested properly, then Meta's revenue and earnings growth should accelerate.
所以你必须有点信任这家公司,你相信 Meta 有合适的机会以高投资回报率投资资金吗?如果你相信是这样,那就买入股票,因为他们正在大举下注。
So you have to kind of trust the business here is do you believe Meta has proper opportunities to be able to invest money at a high high ROI? If you believe that's the case, then buy the stock because they're they're betting hugely.
你知道,这些人他们刚刚耗尽了所有现金。这是什么净债务?他们上个季度借了一点钱。有趣。所以,他们在资本支出上的花费超过了他们产生的现金,但他们最初没有债务,并且有大量现金余额。所以,他们绝对负担得起。他们基本上是在用现金支付他们想做的事情。
you know it it it stops like these guys are still they just soaked up all their cash. What is this net debt? They borrowed a little bit of money uh last quarter. Interesting. So, they are spending more cash on capex than they're generating in cash, but they were debtree and had a ton of cash balance to begin with. So, they can definitely afford it. They're basically paying cash for what they want to do.
如果你错过了我在其他直播中的另一段话,我关于资本支出追逐的观点是这样的。看看 Meta 对元宇宙的减记。他们花了数年时间建设一些失败的东西,然后减记了。没关系。这在商业中会发生。
你想要他们把现金押在他们认为是大市场机会的领域。那是他们的工作。这就是你投资他们的原因。你给他们钱。他们反过来投资这些现金以试图增长并增长你的股票。所以,你想要他们在他们认为会增长的地方进行有根据的押注。
他们会打出全垒打吗?100% 的时间,不会。每个企业,当然一旦他们尝试很多机会,会发现一些失败。扎克伯格可能可以在元宇宙上少花一点钱,多测试一下,但你知道他们是一家喜欢大赌注的公司。
所以这里的重点是,他们大赌,输了,停止,减记,解雇了所有人,然后转向,这就是你想看到的。希望这个赌注能成功。但再次,如果没有,他们会关闭它。他们会注销它,然后投资其他东西,因为核心业务仍然产生大量的现金流。
如果每个人都担心资本支出,这就是为什么这只股票下跌,理论上,如果他们停止资本支出,股票会反弹。所以那是一种选择。如果资本支出投资未能产生回报,他们停止它,股票会反弹。另一种选择是,如果投资良好且稳固,并产生加速的营收和盈利增长,股票会涨得更高。
And if you missed my other rant in one of the other live streams, my point about this capex chase is this. Take a look at Meta and their write down of um the metaverse. They spent years building out something that failed and they wrote it down. Fine. That happens in business. A, you want them betting their cash on areas that they believe are large market opportunities. That's their job. That's why you're investing with them. You're giving them money. They are in turn investing that cash to try to grow and grow your stock. So, you want them placing educated bets on where they think they're going to grow. Are they going to hit home runs? 100% of the time, no. every business um certainly once they're trying a lot of opportunities will find some and fail. Uh Zuckerberg probably could have done a little less of a spend in the metaverse and tested it a bit more but you know they are kind of a big betting kind of company. So the point here is they bet big lost stopped wrote it down laid all the people off and are pivoting and that's what you want to see. Hopefully this bet pans out. But again, if it doesn't, they'll shut it down. They'll write it off and they'll invest something else because the core business still generates a tremendous amount of cash flow. And if everyone's worried about the capex and that's why this stock is down, in theory, if they stop the capex, the stock would rebound. So that's one alternative. If the if the cap if the capex investments fail to yield return and they stop it, the stock would rebound. The other alternative is if the investments are good and solid and produce accelerated revenue and earnings growth, the stock will go up even higher.
是的,这很公平。我的意思是,这些损失将有助于抵消盈利的广告业务。你完全正确。你想要他们在市场上承担风险。这是我们作为理性投资者、价值寻求者,无论你想怎么称呼我们,我们的机会和我们的工作,要稍微展望未来,理解这个业务的盈利能力,即广告平台。
如果他们资本支出不成功,好吧,关掉它。广告收入仍然会回流。你有一个伟大的业务,几乎没有债务,而且仍然增长非常快。所以我认为市场对此反应过度了。
Yeah, it's fair. I mean, this those losses will help offset the profitable ad business. You're you're absolutely right. You want them taking bets in the market. And it's our opportunity, our job as rational investors, value seekers, whatever you want to call us, to look down the road a little bit, and understand the earnings power of this business, which is the ad ad platform. And if they if if they don't succeed with Capex, fine, turn it off. the ad money still flows back. You got a great business got essentially no debt on it and it's still growing very quickly. So I think the market's overreacting to this.
让我们看看 Meta 目前的估值。Meta 的 EBITDA 倍数是 13 倍。哇。那对我来说似乎很便宜。我还没有做完整的现金流分析,但让我们看看。而且是按年计算的。所以,它目前在我说的 13 倍。
哎呀,我忘了。是的,13.5 倍。好的,所以它目前交易在 13.5 倍。如果我看财政年度,它什么时候交易得这么低?2022 年 12 月,它变得非常便宜。2018 年 12 月,它变得便宜。
就这样。过去十年。过去十年。这是过去十年中你能以第三便宜的价格买入它。所以,看起来每隔几年,比如说每四年,你就有机会便宜地买入这只股票。这可能是一个机会,因为想想看,如果最终证明这笔钱产生了高于平均水平的回报,你将无法在接下来的几年里再次进入这只股票,因为人们会想涌入。所以,我认为那是一个有趣的机会。
Let's see what the valuations currently for Meta. Meta's 13 times EBITDA. Wow. That that that seems cheap to me. I haven't done like a full cash flow analysis of it, but let's see. And it's years. So, it's currently at what I say 13 times. Shoot, I forgot. Yeah, 13 and a half. Okay, so it's currently trading at 13 and a half. If I look at just fiscal years, when is it traded that low? December of 22, it got super cheap. December of 18, it got cheap. That's it. Last decade. Last decade. This is the third cheapest you can buy it in the last decade. So, it looks like every couple years, every every um you know, four years, let's say, you get an opportunity to buy this stock cheaply. This might be an opportunity because think about it, if it if it ends up panning out that this money is yielding above average IRS, you're not going to be able to get in the stock again for another couple years as people want to dive in. So, I think that's an interesting opportunity.
人们会自动想到 Facebook,你知道,TikTok,Instagram。嗯,Instagram 是 Facebook 的。
People think of Facebook automatically uh you know Tik Tok, Instagram. Well, Instagram is Facebook.
将其置于与 Meta 和 Guru 的直接竞争中。
putting it into a direct competition with Meta and Guru.
Facebook 拿走了很多这样的钱,仅仅基于这样的假设:嗯,他们来自 Facebook,因为我把我大部分的钱给了 Facebook,我的大多数客户也在那里,所以因此他们应该去那里。
这有点猜测,但如果你能与 Shopify 集成,那么这意味着 Shopify 可以告诉你,嘿,这个人在 Reddit 上点击了一个链接。他们去了链接到 Reddit 的 Shopify 页面。
他们买了东西。所以,你可以直接将购买与 Reddit 上的点击联系起来。Facebook 可以做到这一点。
Facebook takes a lot of that money simply on the assumption that well they're coming from Facebook because I'm giving the mo majority of my money to Facebook and the majority of my customers so therefore they should come there. It's it's a little bit of a guess, but if you can integrate with Shopify, then that means that Shopify can tell you, hey, this person clicked on a link in Reddit. They went to the Shopify page that linked to Reddit. They bought something. So, you can directly tie a purchase to the click that was on Reddit. Facebook can do that.
这个频道对 $META 的历次判断
Rational Investing - Cameron Stewart, CFA 在这只股票上只有这一条判断。