Meta被低估并将复苏,类似于谷歌在ChatGPT后的复苏,尽管当前存在负面情绪和诉讼。
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这是Meta。这是投资组合中一个较新的仓位。像许多较新的仓位一样,那些还没有多年时间赚取回报的仓位,Meta处于亏损状态。在我最初买入价之后,它下跌了不少,只是因为坏消息、诉讼、所有担心Meta产品可能改变的人,它就下跌了。在我看来,它与我们面对谷歌和整个ChatGPT恐慌时的情况有很多相似之处。我相信Meta也会有类似的结果。我相信Meta实际上比大多数投资者定价的要强大得多。但无论如何,我的仓位是投资组合中10%的仓位。我在这只股票上有150,000美元。我目前亏损34,000美元。但就像所有其他股票一样,我需要Meta出现有意义的下跌,才能将这笔10,000美元添加到它上面。所以,对于这只股票,我设定的买入目标价是450美元。
This one is Meta. It's a newer position to the portfolio. Like many newer positions, ones that haven't had years to earn returns, Meta is in the red. It went down quite a bit after my initial buyin price, it's just gone down because of the bad news, the lawsuits, all the people concerned about how Meta's product may change. In my mind, it has a lot of resemblance to what we faced with Google and the whole chat GPT scare. And I have a belief that Meta will turn out similar. And I believe Meta is actually a lot stronger than most investors are pricing in. But regardless, my position is a 10% position in the portfolio. I have $150,000 in this stock. I'm down currently $34,000 in the red. But just like all these other stocks, I need a meaningful dip in Meta for this $10,000 to be added to it. So for this one, I set a buy target of $450.
现在,你可能会说Meta已经很便宜了。它已经处于低市盈率。它已经有不错的自由现金流收益率。股价今年迄今已经大幅下跌。那么它怎么会跌到450美元呢?嗯,这就是问题所在。市场可以将公司交易到远低于它们真正价值的水平。就在2023年,Meta还以每股300美元交易。我们不断受到关于Meta的坏消息打击,这可能导致股价下跌。现在,如果发生这种情况,并且那10,000美元投给Meta,这就是数字可能看起来的样子。我们设定的每股收益增长率非常温和地低于10%。假设Meta将在资本支出上花费很多,未来五年将有很多广告费用。这将减缓每股收益增长率。所以,我们假设大约9.5%,也许10%的每股收益增长率。对于Meta,我假设一个非常温和的合适每股收益倍数。如果Meta以20倍市盈率交易,增长9.4%,我们以450美元买入,那意味着我们将在未来五年获得17.2%的复合年回报。
Now, you may say Meta is already inexpensive. It's already at a low PE ratio. It's already at a decent free cash flow yield. The stock price is already way down year to date. So how is it going to get down to $450? Well, that's the thing. The market can trade companies way down below what they really deserve. It was just in 2023 that Meta was trading for $300 per share. We're getting hit with bad story after bad story on Meta and that can cause the stock price to drop down. Now, if that happens and the $10,000 goes to Meta, this is what the numbers may look like. We have earnings per share growth rate that I set very modestly below 10%. Assuming that Meta is going to do a lot of spending on capex, there's going to be a lot of advertised expenses over the next 5 years. that's going to slow down the EPS growth rate. So, we assume around nine and a half, maybe 10% earnings per share growth rate. For Meta, I'm assuming a very modest appropriate EPS multiple. If Meta traded at a 20p ratio, growing 9.4% and we bought it at $450, that means we'd earn a compounded annual return of 17.2% over the next 5 years.
所以,对于这只股票,我设定的买入目标价是450美元。
So for this one, I set a buy target of $450.
这是吉恩在CNBC上评论Meta。>> 请进吉恩·蒙斯特,Deepwater资产管理公司的管理合伙人。不持有该股票。你个人不持有。Deepwater也不持有,但我知道你对这个有看法。我的意思是,正如我们在本节开头所说的,你对这个迄今为止在这个问题上最重要的案件有什么看法?
Here's Gene on CNBC commenting about Meta. >> Bring in Gene Munster, managing partner with Deepwater Asset Management. Don't own the stock. You don't personally. Deep Water doesn't either, but I know you have views on this. I mean, what what's your take on what, as we said leading into this segment, is the most consequential case on this issue to date?
嗯,斯科特,在开始之前我需要先说明,我是人工智能的坚定信徒。我认为从长远来看,它会让世界变得更好,但我认为我们目前在法庭上看到的只是冰山一角。这将是这些平台对青少年及其世界观产生影响的巨大变革的开端。所以有两种不同的视角来看待这个问题。你知道,朱莉娅刚才做的铺垫,对Meta的影响,比如说,最终他们可能会在未来五年内支付大约250亿美元的罚款,这只是粗略的数字。当他们达到稳定的现金流状态时,在度过这次资本支出高峰之后,他们每年可能会产生400亿、500亿、600亿美元的收入。所以,他们绝对负担得起每年50亿美元的损失。但这不是重点。重点是扎克伯格在8月10日的宣言中基本上说他们要抛弃旧剧本。旧剧本就是Instagram那种给你推送内容的模式,他们要转向基于超级智能的超级机器人剧本。我的感觉是,这可能会先以冰川的速度移动,然后是快速冰川。但Meta在五年后将要面对的可能是规模大得多的诉讼,因为如果扎克兑现他关于超级机器人的承诺,我们今天看到的真的只是小钱。
>> Well, Scott, before I need to preface my comments that I'm a big believer in AI. I think it's going to make the world a much better place longer term, but I think what we're seeing here around the courts is uh minimal. I think it is uh the tip of the iceberg of what is going to be a sea change in terms of the influence that these platforms are going to have on teens and how they see the world. And so there's kind of two different lenses to look through. You know, the the setup that Julia did right there, you know, the impact on Meta, let's say ultimately they're probably going to pay somewhere around 25 billion in fines over the next 5 years, just rough numbers. when they're at a steady state of cash flow, they're going to be generating after they get through this capex uh burst here probably 40, 50, 60 billion a year. So, they can definitely afford five billion a year in and losses. But that's not the point. The point is that Zuckerberg in his manifesto back on August 10th basically said they're throwing out the old playbook. The playbook being the Instagram playbook where you get things kind of fed to you and they're moving to a superbot playbook based on super intelligence. And I my sense is this is going to probably move at first at the speed of a glacier and then a fast glacier. But what Meta is going to be set up for in five years from now is probably lawsuits that are dramatically bigger because if Zuck makes good on talking about or or fulfilling this promise of superbots, uh what we're seeing right now today is really chump change.
哇。这只是开始。他说,这真的是冰山一角。我们正在经历一场深刻的变革。Meta将不再有影响力。青少年不会再使用它。250亿美元的诉讼只是开始,他们将面临更大规模的诉讼和更深刻的变革。
>> Wow. This is just the beginning. This is literally, he says, the tip of the iceberg. That we're going through a profound change. That Meta will no longer be influential. That teens aren't going to use it anymore. That the $25 billion lawsuit is just the beginning and they're going to prof face profoundly bigger lawsuits and more profound changes.
吉恩,你又来了,老兄。如果我们倒回时间,回到谷歌的时候。甘,你对谷歌也有同样的看法。你认为CHACBT会摧毁谷歌。你说这对谷歌来说将是一个巨大的变革。你说10个蓝色链接将不再存在,谷歌将变成一个糟糕得多的公司。当谷歌股价在每股170美元时,你非常看跌。那是一个低价,完全被压低。市场情绪非常糟糕。你上CNBC,一直在谈论谷歌,说这只股票有多差,不会表现好。现在你持有谷歌。这是你最喜欢的仓位之一。你在CNBC上说谷歌股价上涨100%后它会继续上涨。所以当报告显示谷歌没问题时,你的情绪变得更积极了。现在我们发现你对Meta做同样的事情。Meta的市盈率是18倍。投资者已经知道诉讼。他们非常清楚。这是一家非常强大的公司,糟糕的情绪已经反映在股价中。现在你说同样的话,说情况会变得更糟,投资者此时应该感到恐惧。这感觉很像重演。也许吉恩这次是对的。也许Meta会在未来五年继续下跌。也许情况会越来越糟。但我不认为通常会发生这种情况。我们处于Meta是一家护城河极高、收入快速增长、日活跃用户创纪录的公司,他们知道罚款。你知道诉讼,股价已经处于被低估的水平。所以我不觉得现在是极度看跌Meta的时候,这就是为什么我不得不强调,不幸的是,吉恩是本周的失败者。
Gene, you're just doing it again, man. Uh this is if we rewind time, we go back to Google. Gan, you had the same view on Google. You thought CHACBT was gonna destroy Google. You said it was going to be a big sea change for Google. You said the 10 blue links were no longer going to survive and that Google is going to be a way worse company. You were so bearish on Google when it was trading at $170 per share. It was is at a low price, completely depressed. Sentiment was terrible. And you went on to CNBC and you were talking all the time about Google, how bad this stock was, how it's not going to do well. Now you own Google. It's one of your favorite positions. You go on CNBC seeing how it's going to go up after Google's stock price went up 100%. So you became more more positive sentiment when the reports showed that Google was just fine. Now we find you with Meta doing the same thing. Meta is trading at an 18 Ford PE. Investors already know about the lawsuits. They're already well aware of them. This is an incredibly powerful company with terrible sentiment already priced into the stock. And now you're saying the same thing that it's going to get way worse and investors should be terrified at this point. This feels a lot like a repeat all over again. Maybe Gene will be right this time. Maybe Meta will just continue to go down over the next 5 years. Maybe things will get worse and worse and worse. But I don't believe that's typically how it happens. We're in a time period where Meta is an incredibly high mo strong company, fast growing revenue, record amounts of daily active users, and they know about the fines. you know about the the lawsuits and the stock is trading at an already depressed valuation. So I don't feel like now is the time to become super bearish on Meta and that's why I have to highlight unfortunately Jean as the fail of the week.
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