Meta是强力买入;诉讼解决和540美元的技术支撑创造了低风险入场点,而潜在的计算货币化提供了可观的上涨空间。
逐段跳播
这条视频里关于 $META 说的每一段,按说话顺序排列。点任意一行,上面的视频跳到那一刻。
像 Meta 和 Netflix 这样的股票仍然保持上涨,涨幅达几个百分点。Meta 在这个长期收敛中仍然落后于这条传奇支撑线,这确实表明在这些水平上可能有机会买入更多 Meta,因为你确实接近并贴近一条传奇支撑线。
在技术面上,它正在收敛,不是直线下跌,而是水平移动,这表明除非整个经济崩溃,否则 Meta 存在一些严重的上涨潜力,尤其是他们拥有的 dalahalas,非常有趣。
Still holding up on stocks like uh Meta and Netflix up a couple percent. Meta really getting still left behind on this sort of legendary support line right here in this longer term convergence really indicating that you know there might be a potential to actually buy more meta at these levels because you really do sit on and close to a legendary support line. you are on a technical basis converging not straight down but rather horizontally suggesting that unless there you know the entire economy falls off a cliff it suggests there's some serious upside potential here on meta especially with the dalahalas they've got uh very interesting
让我们看看另一位分析师对 Meta 的看法。这次,Meta 股票近几个月表现不佳。风险回报具有吸引力。我同意这一点,重点关注 AI 清晰度的提升。
Let's go take a look at what another suit says on Meta. This time, Meta Stock has underperformed in recent months. Compelling riskreward. I agree with that with a focus on increased AI clarity coming.
新闻驱动的压力,具体我们强调两个关键进展:围绕资本支出的持续疑问和诉讼的出现。关于后者,这是几天前写的,关于 Meta 面临的主要诉讼之一的和解协议的公告,虽然财务上意义重大,但应该会减少一些围绕该股的压力和负面情绪以及不确定性。我同意这一点。
news driven overhang specifically we highlight two key developments continued questions around capex and the emergence of lawsuits on the latter point so this was written you know a couple days ago uh the announcement on the settlement agreement regarding one of the major lawsuits facing Meta while financially meaningful should reduce some of the overhang and negativity basically around uh the stock the uncertainty. I agree with that.
Meta 也有相当大的上涨空间,我认为。让我看看股票标签对 Meta 的预测。Meta 目前在股票标签上的预测公允价值为 1071。
Meta also has I think has quite a bit of upside in it. Let me see what the stock tab has for Meta. Meta's sitting at 1071 right now on the stack stock tab for forecast fair value.
总体而言,全球范围内针对青少年的立法和诉讼,在我们看来,代表了重大的压力,并且一直是最大的非基本面风险。是的,我同意关于潜在责任的观点,对吧?
Overall, youth focused legislation and litigation globally has in our view represented a significant overhang and has been the largest nonfunddamental risks. Yeah, I agree about the potential liability, right?
好的。Meta 承诺对其面向未成年用户的应用程序系列平台产品进行各种更改,包括 2 小时的每日时间限制、默认开启夜间模式、通知限制等等。好的。Meta 承诺了多项后端运营变更。这些都不重要。
Okay. Meta committing to make various changes to its family of apps platform offerings for underage users, including a 2hour daily time limit, default access to night mode, notification limitations, blah blah blah. Okay. Meta committed to several back-end operational changes. None of that really matters.
看看他们的预测。在我们看来,这一压力的消除可能让投资者重新关注运营基本面和 AI 执行。我们对 Meta 在消费者、企业、中小企业和内部用例中的更广泛 AI 战略保持乐观,并认为其竞争地位和变现机会在当前水平被低估了。
Just see what their forecast is here. In our view, the removal of this overhang may allow investors to refocus on operating fundamentals and AI execution. We remain optimistic around Meta's broader AI strategy across consumers, enterprises, SMBs, and internal use cases and believe their competitive positioning and monetization opportunities underappreciated at current levels.
虽然这些举措中的大多数,特别是下面第一类和第二类,已经全面推出并扩展到可以分析或建模的水平,但我们认为这些举措共同具有在多年时间内推动持续收入增长的潜力。是的。超出高盛和华尔街估计所反映的水平。
While most of these initiatives specifically around categories one and two below are fully launched and scaled enough to a level that can be analyzed or modeled uh we see these initiatives as collectively having the potential to drive sustained revenue growth over a multi-year view. Yeah. Beyond uh beyond what is factored into the Goldman Sachs and streets estimates.
具体来说,我们看看这里。所以,这是在AI执行方面,规模足够的模型,等等等等。好的。新的消费者和企业产品。近几个月,Meta发布了相当多的新AI相关产品和战略公告。新的AI相关和产品战略公告,我们在后面更详细地概述了。
我们特别强调了可能促进核心平台内部或邻近的代理AI行为的潜在产品或服务,即解锁更广泛的采用,并为消费者和中小企业带来效用。是的,我的意思是,你可以让小企业去更多地投放广告,在那里花大钱。高盛这里可能没错。
Specifically, let's see here. So, this is on AI execution, scaled enough model, blah blah blah. Okay. New consumer and enterprise products. In recent months, Meta has made a sizable number of new AI related product and strategy announcements. New AI related and product strategy announcement, which we outlined more in detail. We specifically highlight potential products or services that facilitate aentic AI behavior inside of adjacent to core platforms, i.e. unlocking more widespread adoption. and utility for consumers and SMBs. Yeah, I mean you can get small businesses to go advertise their businesses more big dollars there. Probably not wrong by Goldman here.
然后Meta,我们刚才谈到上涨约1.2。
and then meta we're just now talking about up about 1.2
然后让我看看这里还有什么关于Meta的,Meta Meta Meta Meta,就在这里。所以基本上,诉讼带来的重大悬而未决的问题已经消除。然后我们进入对小型企业的效用。一站式商业服务,为中小企业提供整体运营中心层,利用公司与全球企业和创作者深厚的商业关系,帮助促进更广泛的自动化服务套件。
哦,那很聪明。广告、营销、客户支持、内容创作、代理商务。哇。我的意思是,是的,想想看。你可以在平台上做广告。是的,让我们把那个论点写下来。那至少可以说很有趣。
Then let me see here what else with meta meta meta meta that's here. So basically big overhang gone because of the lawsuits. Then we get into utility for small businesses. Business in a box offering holistic operating center layer for SMBs that leverages the company's deep embedded commercial relationship with businesses and creators globally to help facilitate a broader suite of automated services. Oh, that's smart. Advertising, marketing, customer support, content creation, agentic commerce. Wow. I mean, yeah, think about that. You can advertise on the plat. Yeah, let's let's write down some of that thesis there. That's intriguing to say the least.
所以,让我们看看。让我们在这里多写一页。好的。一站式商业服务很有趣。嗯,理论上,理论上你可以说,“嘿,我想投放广告。我想创建内容。”对吧?那可以用……那是Meta的基本情况,对吧?
我想创建与创作者相关的内容。那将是一个新的垂直领域。那些创作者可以得到报酬,这是创作者经济,对吧?那基本上会是新的。那是一种直接关联。然后你会有代理客户服务。那对于这些广告商或公司来说,基本上是内置的新功能。
营销、客户支持、内容,以及代理商务。是的。然后显然,你知道,设计服务,由AI提供的设计服务,这对Meta来说也会是新的。那有点有趣。如果你把所有这些放在一起,那些是……我的意思是,他们基本上可以去找一个企业家,推销所有这些,你知道。
所以,一个企业家得到这个推销,对于新业务来说有点令人向往。
So, let's see. Let's write an extra page here. Okay. Uh, business in a box is interesting. Uh, theoretically, theoretically you could say, "Hey, I want I want to run ads. I want content created." Right? That could be done with uh that's the base case for meta, right? I want content created linked to creators. That'd be a new vertical. uh those creators can get paid, which is a creator economy, right? That would essentially be newish. That's sort of direct linking. Uh and then you would have agentic customer service. That would be newish sort of built in for those uh advertisers or companies. Marketing, customer support, content, and aentic commerce. Yeah. And then obviously, you know, design services, design services by AI, which would also be newish for meta. That's kind of interesting. If you put all that together, that's those are things that I mean, they could basically go to an entrepreneur and pitch all that, you know. So, um, an entrepreneur gets pitched this uh somewhat desirable for a new business.
直接外部企业变现云或计算容量管理。第二季度的公开评论指出,有可能将多余的算力出租给第三方,作为直接的类云协议。下面我们更详细地阐述我们的观点,这可能采取什么形式,这样做的战略理由,以及如果Meta走这条路,2027年的潜在收入贡献。
好的。下面我们更详细地阐述我们的观点,这可能采取什么形式,战略理由,以及潜在的收入贡献。好的,我的意思是,那不太有价值。所以,广义上,我们认为将可用算力外部变现的潜力是一种被低估的上行期权,在当前水平,即出租他们拥有的所有额外算力,作为Meta利用当前供需失衡的一种方式。
嗯,那是他们暗示的。他们确实暗示了,你知道,扎克伯格暗示,如果他们能得到荒谬的报酬,他们会接受算力。我很确定那是在财报电话会议上,但也可能是在他们做的团队活动中,因为有一次财报电话会议,然后有一个类似团队活动。
Direct external enterprise monetization of cloud or uh compute capacity management public commentary on Q2 points to potential to lice out excess compute to third parties as direct neocloud type agreements. Below we frame more details on our view, what forms this might take, strategic rationale for doing so, the potential revenue contribution in 2027 should Meta go this route. Okay. Below we frame more details on our view, what forms this might take, the strategic rationale for doing so, and the potential revenue contribution. Okay, I mean that's not too valuable. So broadly, we see the potential to externally monetize available compute as an upside optionality undervalued at current levels, right, to rent out all that extra compute they have as a way for Meta to capitalize on the current supply and demand imbalance. Well, that's what they hinted. They did hint that uh you know, Zuck Zuck hinted that if uh they'd get paid a ridiculous amount uh they take it for compute. I'm pretty sure that was in the earnings call, but it may have been at a team event that they did because there was an earnings call and then there was a a sort of team event.
我要把它调出来,马上就会知道。嗯,好的。所以,让我们……有没有关于在合适时机授权算力的评论?把它放进去。我有我的旧表格。我只是不知道。不,他们在上一次没有评论授权。所以,那意味着是团队活动。
该死。嗯,那个记录。看看我有没有。Meta Meta Meta Meta Meta Meta Meta Meta Meta Meta。没有。好的。嗯,我会找到的。Meta扎克伯格电话会议,机会性地出租多余的数据中心算力。
巴伦周刊实际上在四周前有一篇关于这个的文章。那很有趣。五月的电话会议。好的,我们开始。好的。哦,拜托。我们到了。Facebook。计划是出租MetaMP算力计划。公司旨在规划一个业务部门,销售纯计算访问和各种模型。
彭博报道。嗯,让我们看看。Meta没有评论。彭博引用匿名消息。好的。在五月的电话会议上,该集团正在考虑出租容量。几乎每周都有不同的公司来找我们,要求我们建立一个API服务,或者他们有我们可以以某种溢价购买的算力,我们购买时的溢价。
我们还没有这样做,因为我们认为我们有用这些算力的地方。然而,如果情况改变,这个选项就在桌面上。是的,我的意思是,那就是那样。我猜巴伦周刊现在也在强调这个。
I'm going to pull it up and I'll find out in just a moment here. Uh, okay. So, let's uh any commentary on licensing compute if opportune? Pop that in. I've got my old sheet here. I just don't know. No, they didn't comment on licensing in the last one. So, that means it was the team event. Dang it. Uh, that transcript. See if I have it. Meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta. No. Okay. Well, I'll find it. Meta Zuckerberg call opportunistically rent uh excess data center compute. Barons actually has a piece on this four weeks ago. That's interesting. Conference call in May. Okay, here we go. Okay. Oh, come on. There we go. Facebook. The plan is to rent out uh MetaMP compute initiative. The company aims to plan a business segment that sells both access to pure computing and various models. The Bloomberg report. Uh let's see here. Meta didn't comment. Bloomberg sites anomous. Okay. on a conference call in May that the group is considering renting out capacity. Almost every week there are different companies that come to us asking us to stand up an API service or we have compute they could buy at some premium we bought it at. We haven't done it yet because we think we have a use for the compute. However, if the situation uh changes, the option is on the table. Yeah, I mean that's that's what it was. And I guess Barons is now harping on this too.
Meta计划今年进行1300亿至1400亿美元的资本支出,但一直抵制建立云租赁业务。Meta的核心广告业务正在支撑这些大规模投资。对。我认为他们的广告业务将继续增长。但巴伦认为,如果Meta想要在人工智能上获得正的投资回报,就需要出租其部分数据容量。
好的。该公司更新了对Meta的预测,估计回报基本上为负,除非他们出租这些数据中心。公司正在将其中一部分用于其AI模型,一部分用于改进广告能量和发布引擎,以及发布消费者和企业产品,但它一直抵制建立云业务。
我们收到很多报价,显著的……好的,好吧,它也在那里。嗯,也许不是财报电话会议。我确实看到报价有显著溢价。让我看看。也许是溢价。我不认为这是这次财报电话会议,但没关系,因为那是四月的。
哦,因为那是四月的财报电话会议。那可能是我在看旧财报电话会议的原因。所以Meta,那可能是在他们最近的财报电话会议中。好的,好吧。在哪里并不重要。我们知道了。
Meta plans to make between 130 to 140 billion in capex this year but has resisted setting up a cloud rental business. Meta's core advertising business is enabling the massive investments. Right. And I think their advertising business will keep growing. But Barren argues that Meta needs to rent out some of its data capacity if it wants a positive return on investment intell uh artificial intelligence. Okay. The firm updated its forecast for Meta, estimating that returns sit negative basically unless they rent out these data centers. The company is deploying some of that for their AI models, some of it for improving the advertising energy and release engine and releasing consumer and enterprise products, but it has resisted setting up a cloud business. We're getting a lot of offers a significant Okay, well there it is, too. Um, maybe it wasn't the earnest call. I just did see offers a significant premium. Let me see. Maybe it was premium. I don't think it was this earnings call, but it doesn't matter because that was April. Oh, cuz that's the April earnings call. That might be why I was looking at the uh the old earnings call. So Meta that was probably in their recent earnings call. Okay, fine then. Doesn't really matter where it is. We got it.
投资者渴望Meta接受一些交易。让我们看看。他们相信扎克伯格会默许。我们认为今年会有云收入,这将是股价的催化剂。看,那很有趣,因为现在你看着,你会想,嘿,有一个潜在的股票机会。
它很便宜,而且处于困境中。Meta的核心广告业务正在支撑这些大规模投资。投资资本回报率为负。Meta还有几个正在开发的收入流,可能平息资本支出担忧,从这个意义上说,保持选项开放。
如果Meta能更多提升广告表现,等等等等。他们重申了700美元的目标价。我实际上认为那有点偏低,但这很有趣。所以,这有点像Meta股票的催化剂。
Investors are itching for Meta to take on some of the deals. Let's see. They believe that Zuckerberg will acquies. We think there will be cloud revenue this year and it will be a catalyst for the shares. See, that's interesting because now you look and you go, hey, there's there's a potential stock opportunity. It's uh it's cheap and it's in the penalty box. Meta's core advertising business is enabling the massive investments. Return on invested capital is negative. Meta's also several revenue streams in development that may quell capital spending fears in that sense, keeping the options open. If Meta can boost ad performance more, blah blah blah. They reiterated a $700 price target. I actually think that's a little bit on the low side, but this is interesting. So, it's sort of like a catalyst for Meta Stock.
回到高盛的文章。核心广告。那很好。好的。我们目前预测Meta的广告收入在26年增长27%,在27年增长20%和21%。所以,它在放缓。两者都被上调了。尽管那比我们之前的估计高出约18%到28%,明显高于行业增长水平。
虽然关于运营支出和资本支出的争论将持续,但我们认为公司核心广告收入增长率的这种变化是投资资本回报的一个证明点。在我们看来,显而易见的是,未来股价表现的最大不利因素是产品发布、AI收入流和广告改进是否足够快地到来。
如果管理层能够继续展示变现能力,同时提供经济的长期可见性,股票的主要估值折价可能会大幅收窄。是的。我的意思是,至少你有很多西装革履的人在谈论它。
Back to the Goldman piece here. Core advertising. That's neat. Okay. We currently forecast Meta's advertising revenue to grow 27% in 26 and 20 and 21% in 27. So, it is slowing. both of which have been revised upwards. Though that's about 18 to 28% above our prior estimates, notably above industry growth levels. While debates will persist about OPEX capex, we think such a rate of change in the company's core advertising revenue growth is a proof point of return on investment capital. In plain sight, in our view, the biggest detriment of stock performance from here is whether a product launches, AI revenue streams, and advertising improvement arrive quickly enough. If management continue can continue to demonstrate monetization while providing long-term visibility into economics, the stock's primary valuation discount could narrow materially. Yeah. I mean, so you at least you've got a lot of suits talking about it.
接下来几周我们将推出功能模型。因为他们也在竞争这些低成本模型。我们来看看,因为Meta有开放权重模型。扎克伯格做了数千字的推介,然后在劳伦生日那天,他们推出了Muse Glimmer。
Uh let's see here. Oh, okay. All right. Got it. So, then we have functional models in the coming weeks. Well, because they also are competing in these lowerc cost models. Let's take a look at that because we've got meta meta openweight models. You know, Zuck had his whole like multi,000piece pitch and then on Lauren's birthday, they introduced Muse Glimmer.
让我们稍微记一下Meta。现在Meta有Barons和Goldman。Barons通过New Street Research提到,New Street Research通过Barons和Goldman认为Meta的机遇被低估,如果他们变现计算能力,股价折价可能迅速消失。
All right, let's uh let's write this down on meta just a little bit. So meta right now you've got uh Barons and Goldman. Barons is talking about it via so this is actually who New Street Research New Street Research via Barons and Goldman argue meta undervalued opportunities uh if they monetize compute the discount in shares may evaporate quickly.
这些诉讼听起来乐观。我认为该股有翻倍的潜力。值得注意的是,到2025年底,他们持有7吉瓦的计算能力,预计到2027年底将翻倍至14吉瓦。
Uh the suits sound bullish. Uh you know I I think the stock has a double in it. Okay. Uh they hold also worth noting end of 2025 uh they hold 7 gawatts of compute uh and that's planned to double uh that's expected to double to 14 gawatt by end of 2027
这实际上很有趣,如果你想想,这正是埃隆为SpaceX想要的10吉瓦计算能力。
which actually is very interesting if you think about it that's what Elon uh wants for SpaceX uh 10 gawatts of compute.
他以每吉瓦30到50美元承销。Meta甚至根本没有承销。Meta似乎根本没有承销。去他的承销。但我的意思是,如果人们没有谈论它,那可能是一个上行空间。
He's underwriting at 30 to $50 a gigawatt. Meta isn't even underwriting at all. Uh Meta doesn't appear to be underwriting at all. Screw underwriting. But I mean that could be an upside if if people aren't uh you know talking about it.
然后我们有Sherish按地址搜索或地图功能。是的,我同意。我现在就记下来。Meta自身的产能预计到2027年平均为13.5吉瓦。电力容量限制表明每年有四到五个上线。
So then we have Sherish search by address uh or a map feature. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, I'll make a note on that right now. So Meta's own capacity is projected to average 13.5 gawatts by 2027. Power capacity restraints suggest four to five coming online per year.
Meta已签订总容量超过六吉瓦的电力协议。有趣。所以在未来10年内,可能多达23%的计算能力将来自Olo和Terra power。这是一个有趣的说明。
Uh Meta has entered into agreements totaling over six gawatts of power. Interesting. So over the next 10 years over the next 10 years uh potentially as much uh as 23 of compute power may come from Olo and Terra power. That's an interesting note.
就业务方面而言,计算变现组合策略,原始计算。他们可能考虑出售多余容量。他们认为,如果出售多余容量,可能产生150亿至360亿美元的增量云收入。这来自德意志银行。
H as far as the business's side, let's see. Compute monetization portfolio strategy raw compute. They might consider they're considering selling surplus capacity. They think they could generate 15 to 36 billion in incremental cloud revenue if they sell excess capacity. That's from Deutsche Bank.
所以这很有趣。德意志银行认为,如果他们变现计算能力,可能产生150亿至360亿美元的额外收入。让我看看这如何比较。如果我去这里,是的,公平地说,他们的收入预计为2540亿美元。
那太疯狂了。预计2026年底收入为2540亿美元。所以那将增加15除以254,大约6%。然后如果高达36,那将是254的6%到14%的收入。
So that's interesting. So DB thinks they could generate 15 to 36 billion of extra uh revenue if they monetize compute. Let me see what how that compares then. So if I go here, yeah, I mean their revenue in fairness is expected to be $254 billion. That's freaking crazy. 254 billion revenue expected year end 2026. So that would add 15 divided by 254 be about call it 6%. And then next uh if it's up to 36 that would be 254 6 to 14%. to revenue.
有趣。然后我们有一个说明,超过100万家企业正在使用Meta Business agents。Meta刚刚开始收取基于订阅的按量计费。
Okay, interesting. Then we've got a note over 1 million businesses are using Meta Business agents. Meta began charging subscriptions with volume- based token pricing just now, just recently.
就业务方面而言,100万家企业使用Meta Business agents用于WhatsApp和Messenger。
So as far as business on business side 1 million businesses use Meta business agents for WhatsApp and Messenger.
然后基于代币的订阅在2026年下半年开始收费。我实际上认为,我相当确定有六家租车公司使用这个,旅行时很好用。你可以快速与他们的预订机器人聊天,如果需要,很快就能升级到人工服务,但它只是让通过短信联系支持变得容易。
Then you've got subscriptions uh based on tokens started being charged in H226. I actually think of I'm pretty sure pretty sure six rental car uses this and it's great when traveling. Uh you can chat with their reservation bot quickly and and then you know get escalated to a human if you need to pretty quickly but it just it makes it easy to sort of text the support if you will.
巴克莱认为,通过API销售可能产生超过650亿美元的收入。Meta仍然是唯一没有外部变现计划(或随便你怎么称呼)的超大规模云服务商。哇,这很有趣。它是唯一没有外部云变现计划的超大规模云服务商。
selling APIs could generate over 65 billion per barlays. Barclays. Let's see here. Barclays thinks over 65 billion possible via APIs. Meta remains the only hyperscaler without an external monetization. um plan or whatever you want to call it. Wow, that's interesting. Is the only hyperscaler without an external cloud uh monetization plan
内部工作负载是首要优先事项。Meta的走势很有趣。
Internal internal workloads are taking a top priority. Interesting tank there on Meta.
所以,我想做的第一件事是对Meta进行一些总结,因为我们得到了很多关于Meta的报道,我认为值得仔细看看。一旦我们有了他们的财报,让我们看看,然后我们就能很好地判断这如何可能成为逢低买入的机会。
So, first thing I want to do is a little sumsome on meta just because we're getting so much coverage uh on meta and I think it's worth going through. And once we have their earnings, let's see here, then we'll be good to go on how this one could be a buy the dip opportunity.
是的,本季度支出确实有点疯狂。在我看来,这正是拖累股价的原因。
Yeah, we do have spending went up a bit wild this quarter. And that's that's exactly what's holding the stock back in my opinion.
你应该买入Meta股票还是远离?这只股票有一些独特之处。它显然是我们庞大的超大规模云服务商之一。它是唯一不出租计算能力的超大规模云服务商。
Should you buy Meta Stock or stay away? There's something unique going on with this stock. It is obviously one of our massive hyperscalers. It is the only hyperscaler that does not rent compute.
但如果他们改变主意,那还值得买入吗?他们有可能改变主意吗?首先,通过《巴伦周刊》,我们有New Street Research的一个论点,即如果Meta出租其部分额外的数据中心计算能力,他们最终将在AI资本支出上获得正的投资回报。
But if they change their mind on that, would it be worth buying? Is there a chance they're going to change their mind? First, via Barons. We have an argument from New Street Research that if Meta rented out some of its extra data center compute, they would end up having a positive return on investment on their uh AI capex spend.
目前,如果他们不出租计算能力,他们的投入资本回报率估计为负2.2%。这不好。这被视为股票的一个重大拖累。所以很明显,当扎克伯格在上个月的电话会议上说,我们收到了很多以显著高于我们支付价格的计算能力报价,这可能是像Anthropic或OpenAI这样的公司,他们现在真的不在乎花了多少钱,他们只是想吸引用户,这显然不可持续,但如果我们处于短缺或稀缺的心态,而OpenAI和Anthropic想成为醉酒的卖家,挥霍大量资金,那就让他们去吧,为什么不站在那里变现呢。
Right now, without them renting out their compute, they sit at return on invested capital estimates of negative 2.2%. Not good. This is seen as a big overhang on the stock. Uh and so obviously when Zuck in the uh in a conference call last month said that hey we're getting a lot of offers for compute at a significant premium over what we paid which is probably the likes of like an anthropic or open AAI who really don't care right now how much they're spending they're just trying to attract users that's obviously not sustainable but if we're in a shortage or scarcity mindset and open AI and anthropic want to be drunk sellers sailor so to speak and blow a bunch of money let them why not stand there and monetize.
Meta已经有大约6吉瓦,他们正努力达到10吉瓦。所以从技术上讲,Meta可以打开开关,成为SpaceX当前计算能力的四倍,并利用这种稀缺性变现。
Meta already has about 6 gawatt, and they're trying to get to 10. So technically, Meta could flip the switch and be about four times the size of SpaceX's current compute now and monetize on that scarcity now.
所以Meta并没有宣传他们可以利用这种稀缺性变现,尽管他们拥有这种稀缺性。埃隆并不真正拥有这种稀缺性,却在推销利用这种稀缺性变现。这就是为什么人们认为Meta可能被低估,如果他们真的站出来改变策略,这种情况可能会迅速改变。
So Meta is not advertising that they can monetize on that scarcity even though they have it. Elon doesn't really have it and is pitching monetizing on that scarcity. This is why people think Meta might be trading for a discount and that that could change really rapidly if they actually came out and flipped the script.
事实上,他们说扎克伯格最终会屈服。他们说:“我们认为今年会有云收入,这将成为股价的催化剂。”
In fact, they say that Zuckerberg will end up acquiescing. They say, "We think there will be cloud revenue this year and it will be a catalyst for the shares."
但实际上,看看Meta的催化剂,不仅仅是New Street提出这个观点。德意志银行也这么认为。所以,让我们进入……嗯,也不仅仅是德意志银行。高盛也这么认为。
Uh, but actually looking at Meta Catalyst, it's not just New Street that suggests this. It's also Deutsche Bank. So, let's jump into the um well, it's not just Deutsche Bank either. It's also Goldman Sachs.
高盛认为,如果Meta能够开始变现其计算能力,未来几个月AI清晰度将提高,这将带来引人注目的风险回报。首先,有一整节内容是关于他们解决了这起诉讼是多么好,因为曾有人谈论这起诉讼可能最终导致1.4万亿美元的费用。
至少这是公关中宣传的那种废话,这可能有助于促使他们以大约50亿美元的低价达成和解。仍然是很多钱,但肯定不是1.4万亿美元。
Goldman Sachs argues the following that there is a quote compelling riskreward with a focused on increased AI clarity in the coming months if Meta can start monetizing their compute. First, there's a whole section about how great it is that they settled this lawsuit because there was talk about how the lawsuit could potentially end up costing $1.4 trillion in fees. At least that was the kind of crap that was advertised in PR, which probably helped kind of wrestle them into a settlement in the low, you know, 5ish billion range. Still a lot of money, but it's certainly not $1.4 trillion.
他们说这消除了股票上的一个大阴影。而且,其中一些限制,比如儿童的时间限制或夜间通知关闭或家长监督选项,年龄限制和验证,这些事情并不是什么大问题,它们实际上比因这些限制而失去的更多负面催化剂从股票中移除。
They say that removes a big overhang over the stock. Uh, and some of these limits like a time limit for children or notifications off during night hours or parental supervision options, uh, age limits and verifications that these things aren't really that big of a deal and they actually remove more of a negative catalyst from the stock than you end up losing by having those limitations.
另一方面,高盛认为,重新聚焦运营基本面和AI执行才是真正赚钱的地方。
On the flip side though, Goldman Sachs thinks that refocusing on operating fundamentals and AI execution is where you can really make the money.
顺便说一句,德意志银行也同意这一点。因此,德意志银行认为,如果Facebook Meta决定立即将其计算能力变现,他们可以产生150亿至360亿美元的额外收入。
Deutsche Bank agrees with this, by the way. So, Deutsche Bank argues that Facebook Meta could generate 15 to 36 billion of extra revenue if they decided to monetize their compute right now.
现在,请记住,相对于他们的总收入,这实际上并不多。他们预计在2026年底实现2500亿美元的收入。想一想,到2026年底,收入将达到2500亿美元,即2540亿美元。
Now, keep in mind that's actually not that much relative to their total revenue. They're expected to make a quarter of a trillion at the end of 2026. Like, think about that for a moment. A quarter of a trillion dollar of revenue, $254 billion of revenue by the end of 2026.
因此,通过变现一些计算能力来产生额外的150亿至360亿美元。我的意思是,那会是多少,也许是一两个吉瓦,希望更少,你知道,为了整个AI行业的目的。否则,如果你以那些价格做2吉瓦,每吉瓦开始变得有点便宜。
但无论如何,这增加了约6%至14%的收入。这并不是最大的驱动力。
So, generating an extra 15 to 36 billion by monetizing some compute. I mean, that would be what, maybe a gigawatt or two, hopefully less, you know, for the purposes of the whole AI industry. Uh otherwise if you do 2 gigawatts at those prices starts getting a little cheap per gigawatt. But anyway that adds about 6 to 14% on revenue. That's not really the biggest driver.
相反,高盛认为,加上变现他们即将推出的其他一些工具,可能真正成为收入驱动力,因为Meta和Zuck基本上可以出来说:“看,我们为企业提供了一站式服务。我们为其他人提供了变现的方式,这使他们能够向我们支付更多钱。”
Instead, Goldman Sachs thinks that plus monetizing some of the other tools they're coming out with could really be the revenue drivers because Meta and Zuck could basically come out and say, "Look, we're providing businesses a business in a box. We're providing ways for other people to monetize which enables them to pay us more money."
我认为这就是Zuck的论点,至少根据高盛的说法。高盛建议,一站式服务,我在这里放了一些这些东西,但可能潜在地是,嘿,我想经营一家企业。我想成为一名企业家。我想投放广告。砰。Meta的基本情况。我想要内容创作。没问题。我们会为你设计。
And I think that's the thesis here with Zuck, at least per Goldman Sachs. Goldman Sachs suggests that a business in a box and and I put some of these things in here, but could potentially be, hey, I want to run a business. I want to be an entrepreneur. I want to run ads. Boom. Base case for meta. I want content created. No problem. We'll design it for
现在你知道更多的SpaceX的东西上线,谷歌的东西上线,微软、亚马逊、Meta、NeoClouds、Iron、NBIS、CoreWeave等等,很多钱投入到这里。
where you know now more SpaceX stuff comes online, Google stuff comes online, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, the NeoClouds, the Iron, the NBIS, the coreweave whatever a lot of money going into this right
Zuck一直在暗示这一点。他在与员工的电话会议中说,有时他们被提供荒谬的溢价来开放API服务,也许他们真的应该利用这一点。因此,他们认为,如果管理层继续展示变现能力,同时提供对长期AI经济的更大可见性,该股的主要估值折价可能会大幅收窄。
uh and Zuck has kind of been hinting at this. He said in a meeting with uh in a conference call with um uh uh employees that sometimes they get offered ridiculous premiums to open up API services and that you maybe they should really take advantage of of doing that. So they think that if management continues to demonstrate monetization while providing greater visibility into long-term AI economics, the stock's primary valuation discount could narrow materially.
当你看到Meta时,我个人认为它有一些引人注目的组成部分。我相信该股的公允价值约为1300美元。我的股票AI产品认为Meta的公允价值为1071美元。因此,在这个范围内的某个地方表明该股有大约2倍或2.5倍的上涨空间,也许不会太远。
when you look at Meta, I personally think there's some compelling components to it. I believe that the stock has a fair value of around $1,300. My stock AI product thinks Meta has a fair value of $1,071. So somewhere in that range suggests that the stock has like a two or 2 and 1/2x built into it and maybe not that far off.
现在当我们看实际的基本面,公司的真正基本面时,我们可以看到一些担忧。本季度的支出确实比前几个季度有所增加。我们有点疯狂了。销售成本上升了33%,这削弱了他们的定价能力。研发和SGNA几乎翻了一番。
怎么会?为什么?也许不是销售部分,而是GNA?为什么GNA翻了一番,研发翻了一番?销售部分实际上只上升了约15%。所以低于收入,这很好,但他们把更多的钱投入研发,把更多的钱投入管理费用,他们的销售成本上升超过了他们的收入增长。
所有这些都削弱了他们定价能力的表象,并为马克·扎克伯格创造了扭转局面的机会。
Now when we look at the actual fundies, the real fundamentals for the company, we can see where there is some concern. Spending did go up a little bit in this quarter compared to prior quarters. We went a little girls gone wild here. We got cost of goods sold up 33% which shrunk their PP their pricing power. R&D and SGAA SGNA nearly doubled. How? Why? Why did uh maybe not the S part but the GNA? Why did GNA double and R&D double? The sales portion actually only went up about 15%. So less than revenue, which is good, but they're plowing more money into R&D and they're plowing more money into uh their administrative expenses and their cost of goods sold went up more than the revenue growth that they have. All of those things kind of weakened some of their appearance of pricing power and they set up an opportunity for Mark Zuckerberg to turn that crap around.
我们没有看到回购。我们没有看到股息。我们有250亿美元的债务,这比Salesforce少。他们的股票薪酬上升了约52%,净利润上升了22%。他们在六个月内拥有约150亿美元的自由现金流。
这相当于每年约300亿美元,但这比之前有所下降。不幸的是,市场认为它会继续下降。如果他们保持全年300亿美元,除以他们当前1470亿美元的市值,大约是2%的自由现金流收益率。
We're not seeing repurchases. We're not seeing dividends. We got $25 billion in debt, which is less than Salesforce has. Uh their stock comp rose about 52%, their net income's up 22%. They've got free cash flow about $15 billion in a six-month period. That works out to about 30 in uh an annual period, but that's down from where it has been previously. And unfortunately, markets think it's going to keep going down. If they do it stay at 30 for the year divided by their current market cap of 1470, it's about a 2% free cash flow yield.
所以它远没有Salesforce的7%自由现金流收益率那么丰厚,但仍然比网络安全股好。仍然比Palantir好。
So it's nowhere near as juicy as like uh Salesforce at a 7% free cash flow yield, but it's still better than the cyber security plays. It's still better than Palunteer.
所以很多人认为MetaT有真正的机会。如果你看他们的资产负债表,它不像其他一些公司那样负债累累。他们实际上有1120亿美元的现金、有价证券和应收账款,减去560亿美元的账单。这给了我560亿美元的自由现金流,他们有约830亿美元的长期债务。
我可以用额外的560亿美元自由现金流和一年的现金流来支付大部分债务,因为那将是额外的270亿美元长期债务,显然他们还有另外260亿美元的长期租赁。是的,有些人对此有些担心,关于资产负债表风险,这正是人工智能的变现可能对他们非常有用,如果他们转变策略的话。
So a lot of people think there's a real opportunity in MetaT. If you look at their balance sheet, it's not as indebted as some other companies. They've actually got cash marketables and receivables of 112 billion minus their bills of 56. That gives me free cash uh of 56 and they have long-term debts of about 83. I could pay most of that off with the extra 56 in free cash I have and one year of cash flow because that'd be an extra 27 billion of long-term debts and obviously the long-term leases that they have of another 26. Yeah, some people are a little worried about that regarding al balance sheet risk and that's exactly why the monetization of artificial intelligence could be really useful for them if they pivot in the strategy.
当然,这都是鸦片。你知道,仅仅因为德意志银行认为他们应该这样做,New Street Research认为他们应该这样做,高盛认为他们应该这样做,并不意味着他们会这样做。如果他们不这样做,他们决定,你知道吗,我们将继续使用这个来建立更多基于代币的订阅服务,现在他们正在为WhatsApp上的代币使用收费。
Of course, that's allopium. you know, just because Deutsche Bank thinks they should do it and New Street Research thinks they should do it and Goldman thinks they should do it, doesn't mean that they're going to do it. And if they don't and they decide, you know what, we're going to keep using this to build out more subscription-based services on tokens, which now they're charging for like token usage on WhatsApp.
我去欧洲度假,这也是为什么当我度假时,我真的很喜欢研究公司。我注意到的是,我去租车,比如六家租车公司。我会在WhatsApp上收到消息,因为显然欧洲每个人都用WhatsApp。
他们说,“嘿,你的租车准备好了”或“这个那个”。如果有问题,在这里给我们发消息。90%只是他们的聊天机器人回复,但你也可以要求人工。我想,“好吧,好吧。这实际上真的很实用。我不需要打一个愚蠢的电话或等待。
我通过聊天机器人获得相当快速的体验,而且如果我等人工,等待时间也不长。”而且这一切都是通过WhatsApp,Facebook可以变现。
I went on vacation to Europe and and this one of the reasons why when I go on vacation, I really like studying companies. What I notice is I go rent a car with like six rental car. I'll get a message on WhatsApp because everybody in Europe uses WhatsApp apparently. Uh and and they're like, "Hey, your rental car is ready or this that or whatever. Message us here if you have questions." And 90% of it is just their chatbot replying, but you could ask for a human, too. I'm like, "All right, all right. This is this is actually really functional. I don't have to call a stupid number or wait on hold. I get a pretty rapid experience with the chatbot and, you know, not that long of a wait if I wait for a human." And it's all through WhatsApp, which Facebook can monetize.
并且记住,他们是唯一一个目前没有资本支出变现计划的超大规模企业,这确实为诉讼解决后快速转变做好了准备,并提出了某种资本支出变现计划。
And keeping in mind that they're the only hyperscaler without a monetization plan on their capex right now does set them up for a rapid turnaround post lawsuits getting settled and coming up with some kind of capex plan for monetization.
你知道,Meta确实表示,在这些诉讼之后,他们的指导保持不变。法官显然仍然必须签署和解协议。要真正完成和解,需要TikTok和YouTube真正加入。
You know, Meta did say that their guidance remains unchanged after these lawsuits. Uh the, you know, judge obviously still has to sign off on the settlement. uh to really complete the settlement, you need Tik Tok and YouTube to really join.
但当我们审视公司估值时,有多种不同的估值方法,取决于你想用哪种市盈率与盈利增长率之比。如果你采用24倍的市盈率与盈利增长率之比,股价大约在1270美元。如果你采用21比1的比率,可能达到1100美元。
但我们预测该公司有15%的增长,且明年年底有可观的每股收益。这些都相当令人印象深刻。因此,从技术面看,该公司似乎被低估了。
But when we look at the valuation of the company, I mean, there are various different ways you could value it depending on what kind of peg ratio you want to use. If you take a, you know, 24 peg, you're at about $1270. If you take a 21-1 peg, you could get to $1,100. But we've got 15% growth forecast uh for the company with uh you know, substantial amount of EPS for the end of next year. This is all pretty impressive. So, the company seems cheap on a technical base.
显然,充分披露,我持有该股。从技术面看,你也应该庆幸存在我所谓的传奇支撑线在540美元。所以,577除以540,我距离我所谓的传奇支撑线有6.8%的距离。那些是我所见过的最强的技术支撑线。
在过去6个月里,我们在3月、6月、7月和8月都在540处出现了反弹。虽然诉讼还在进行,现在诉讼已经结束,我们只比支撑线高6.8%。这正在为大规模突破做准备,而且我们有下降趋势,嗯,这种收敛趋势。
我不一定会称之为下降趋势,但这是一个收敛。所以也许它可能走低。我个人认为我们的底部是540水平。如果情况恶化,我们陷入衰退,那显然一切都说不准了。但这是一个很好的技术位,可能真的会引发反弹。
你有基本面支撑,有期权性,还有540的传奇支撑线。在我看来,这是突破这个收敛形态的绝佳机会。
Obviously, full disclosure, exposed to it. On a technical basis, it also feels like you should enjoy the fact that there is what I call a legendary support line at $540. So, 577 divided by 540, I am 6.8% away from what I call a legendary support line. Those are the strongest technical support lines that I ever have. And we've got here in the last 6 months a bounce in March, a bounce in June, a bounce in July, and a bounce in August at 540. While the lawsuits are gone going on, now the lawsuits are gone, and we're only six, well, the biggest ones from the states. We're only 6.8% above that support line. This is setting up for a massive breakout and we've got this downtrending uh well, this sort of converging trend. I wouldn't necessarily call it I mean this is a downtrend but this is a convergence right here. So maybe it's possible it goes lower. I personally think our floor is that 540 level. Poop hits the fan. We go into a recession. All bets are off obviously. But this is a nice technical level that could really set up for a bounce. You've got fundamentals on your side. You've got optionality on your side. You've got uh the legendary support line on your side of 540. And uh in my opinion, that's a great opportunity to break up through this convergence.
他说在等什么
他自己说在等的东西,一段话一条记录。同一件事说过几次就出现几次,我们不合并,也不判断它有没有兑现。
这个频道对 $META 的历次判断
Meet Kevin 在这只股票上共 3 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。