$MSGS

MSGS现在估值合理,NAV折价已收窄;由于依赖球队表现,投资逻辑较弱。

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The Intrinsic Value Podcast发布 2026-09-03 · 10 段内容
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这是我们播客上报道的第一家公司。我不想开创先例,买入那些没有良好基础运营指标的业务,比如,你知道,其中有一个投机成分,你在说,嘿,你知道,亿万富翁会继续变得更富有,他们会继续抬高这些奖杯资产的价格。然后还有一些税收漏洞,你不知道它们是否会关闭。

this is one of the this was actually the first company we covered on the podcast. Um, I didn't want to set a precedent of of of buying into businesses that didn't have great, you know, underlying operating uh uh metrics where like, you know, there is a speculative component of it of you're you're saying, hey, you know, billionaires are going to keep getting richer and they're going to, you know, bid up the price of of these uh trophy assets more and more and more. And then there's some tax loopholes that you do that you don't do or don't know whether they'll uh they'll close.

所以无论如何,事后看来,能够以福布斯估计的资产净值50%的折扣买入,相对于公司的市值,那真的很有吸引力,而我们错过了。我太谨慎了。

And so anyways, um, in hindsight, being able to have bought, uh, at a 50% discount to Forb's estimated NAV, uh, relative to the market cap of the company, that was, uh, really attractive and and we just missed that. Uh, I was too I was too cautious.

所以今天,既然尼克斯队取得了成功,他们赢得了NBA总决赛,现在这个折扣已经大幅收窄。所以只有大约20%的折扣。当你考虑到摩擦成本和一些不确定性,以及福布斯的估计并非100%精确的事实,这有点啰嗦地说,MSGS可能大致上估值合理。

And so today, now that the Knicks uh, have had success, they, you know, won um, you know, they won the NBA uh, finals. Um, now that discount has has closed dramatically. Uh, so there's only a 20% discount roughly. Uh, and when you think about the friction costs and some of the uncertainties and the fact that, you know, the Forbes estimate isn't exactly isn't 100% precise, that's kind of a rambling way to say that u MSGS is is probably about fairly valued.

所以这只是一个非常有趣的案例。我们错过了。我不知道。鉴于尼克斯队最近表现这么好,我怀疑我们是否会有机会。你知道,球队的表现和折扣的宽度之间确实存在相关性。所以这有点像均值回归,你在赌体育特许经营权继续升值,这在高层面上,我对此感到满意。如果去年我们买了,我们就会赌折扣的均值回归。

Uh, so this is just one that was really interesting. We missed it. Um, I don't know. I I doubt given how good the Knicks are have done recently that we'll get um an opportunity. You know, there's really a correlation with like the sentiment around how the teams are doing and how wide the discount becomes. Um, and so it's sort of a mean you're you're betting on the the sports franchises to continue to appreciate in value, which at a high level, you know, I'm comfortable with. Uh and then in last year if we had bought it uh we would have been betting on um a mean reversion in the discount

你知道,我昨天实际上在想,不买是否是一个错误。现实是,你只是不知道这些折扣何时会收窄,以及需要多长时间。所以你不知道你签的是什么,这并不完全是好的投资实践。

you know and I was thinking about it actually yesterday of whether not buying was a mistake. Um and the reality is you just don't know when these discounts are going to close and how long it's going to take. So you don't you don't know what you're signing up for and that's not exactly great um great investing practice.

碰巧的是,尼克斯队有一个不可思议的赛季,并且一路走到了最后。所以这极大地改变了围绕这些特许经营权的叙事。但如果他们表现不佳,如果他们的赛季很糟糕,折扣可能会再维持50%一年。

It just so happened that uh you know the Knicks um had an incredible season um and and and went all the way. Uh and so that you know dramatically changed the narrative around the franchises. Um but if they had had a if the team had tanked, if they'd had a terrible season, um the discount probably would have stayed at 50% for another year.

然后现在你在赌,你的投资取决于篮球队的表现,对吧?因为大部分资产净值在尼克斯队,而不是游骑兵队。所以这感觉不像,你知道,我们从巴菲特和芒格那里得到很多启发。这感觉不像他们会下的赌注。所以这就是我思考的视角。

And then now you're betting on um your investment is dependent on the performance of a basketball team, right? Because the majority of the NAV is is in the Knicks, not the Rangers. Um so like that just that doesn't feel like uh you know, we take a lot of inspiration from Buffett and Munger. Like it doesn't feel like a bet that they would make. And so that was kind of the lens I I came through.

所以事后看来,我们错过了。你知道,我有一种直觉,我真的很想这么做。我的直觉是专注于寻找经营良好、盈利的企业,即复利机器,而不是尝试这些均值回归的游戏。

So um in hindsight, we missed out on it. Um you know, I had a gut I was really tempted to do it. Um And my intuition was was to focus on just finding uh well-run profitable businesses, you know, compounders, not trying to do these mean reversion plays.

然后尼克斯队有一个伟大的赛季,我们看到了戏剧性的均值回归,股票表现非常好。所以我认为对我来说,现在机会已经消失了。所以我会给它一个F。

Um and then the Knicks had a great season and we saw a dramatic mean reversion and the stock has done very well. So I think to me now the opportunity is gone. So I would put it I would put an F.

我认为说你可以购买尼克斯队和游骑兵队的股票,作为一个喜欢篮球和曲棍球的体育迷,这很酷,但就我将其添加到投资组合的倾向而言,它肯定和耐克一样在底部。

>> um I think it's super cool to say that you can buy shares in the Knicks and Rangers as somebody who's a you know a sports fan who likes basketball and hockey, but um in terms of my inclination to add it to the portfolio, um it's it's down there at the bottom with Nike for sure.

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这是我们播客上报道的第一家公司。我不想开创先例,买入那些没有良好基础运营指标的业务,比如,你知道,其中有一个投机成分,你在说,嘿,你知道,亿万富翁会继续变得更富有,他们会继续抬高这些奖杯资产的价格。然后还有一些税收漏洞,你不知道它们是否会关闭。
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