PLTR当前价格缺乏安全边际;DCF显示尽管增长强劲且现金充裕,回报率仅约5%。
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如果你持有英伟达、AMD或Palantir的股票,有人告诉你持有、逢低买入并加强你的仓位,因为一波数十亿美元的浪潮即将到来。
If you own shares of Nvidia, AMD, or Palantir, you are told to hold on, buy on the dip, and strengthen your positions because a multi-billion dollar wave is coming.
我们将从三者中最具争议的Palantir开始。这只股票已成为人工智能业务的广告面孔。那么,让我们看看数字是否真的支持这一点。我们将先呈现乐观的观点,然后是悲观的观点,然后我会告诉你我个人相信什么。
We will start with the most controversial of the three, Palantir. This stock has become the advertising face of the artificial intelligence business . So, let's see if the numbers actually support that . We will present the optimistic viewpoint, then the pessimistic viewpoint , and then I will tell you what I personally believe.
多年来,Palantir仅仅是政府的承包商。那个故事已经结束了。他们在美国的商业收入同比增长了149%,并且有望在2027年之前超越政府部门成为他们最大的部门。
For years, Palantir was merely a contractor for the government . That story has ended. Their commercial revenues in the United States jumped 149% year-on-year, and are on track to overtake the government sector as their largest sector before 2027.
Palantir正在构建一个层,使公司和政府能够有效地在自己的数据上使用人工智能而无需披露数据。乐观者表示,这给了Palantir在企业数据集成方面的垄断地位,而云巨头们无法轻易复制。
Palantir is building the layer that allows companies and governments to effectively use artificial intelligence on their own data without disclosing it. Optimists say this gives Palantir a monopoly on enterprise data integration that the big players in the cloud can't simply copy.
Palantir将其自由现金流指引提高到45亿或47亿美元,营业利润率为47%,员工人数比两年前还少。因此,每一美元的新收入几乎都是纯利润,因为平台已经建成。
Palantir raised its free cash flow guidance to $4.5 billion or $4.7 billion with an operating margin of 47% and fewer employees than it had two years ago. Therefore, every new dollar of revenue is almost pure profit because the platform is already built.
第一个悲观的观点:价格高得离谱。银行间同业拆借利率(IOR)的交易价格大约是市盈率的154倍和市销率的75倍。为了说明这一点,即使这家公司没有成本、工资或税收,并且必须把每一美元的收入都作为利润分配,以当前价格计算,你需要75年才能收回你的钱。各位,这里没有安全边际。
The first pessimistic viewpoint: the price is insane. The Interbank Offered Rate (IOR) is trading at approximately 154 times earnings and 75 times sales. To put that in perspective, even if this company had no costs, salaries, or taxes, and had to give away every dollar of revenue as profit, it would take 75 years to get your money back at current prices. Guys, there is no margin of safety here.
第二个悲观的观点是,他们正在增发股票来支付员工工资。Palantir仅在一个季度就记录了3.15亿美元的股权激励薪酬。这意味着,虽然他们显示出创纪录的利润,但他们正在增发新股来支付工资,从而稀释了你作为所有者的份额。
如果你使用完全摊薄的股份而不是基本数量来运行一个真实的贴现现金流模型,股票的内在价值将显著下降。
The second pessimistic viewpoint is that they are printing shares to pay employee wages. Palantir recorded $315 million in equity-based compensation in just one quarter. This means that while they are showing record profits, they are printing new shares to cover salaries , thus reducing your share as an owner. If you run a real discounted cash flow model using fully diluted shares instead of the basic number, the intrinsic value of the share will decrease significantly.
第三个悲观的情景是内部人士正在出售他们的股票。当散户投资者纷纷涌入人工智能故事时,包括首席执行官亚历克斯·卡普在内的内部人士正在这次反弹中抛售股票。分析师们问道:如果这家公司的负责人真的相信股票的价值或其进一步增长的潜力,他们为什么要出售呢?
The third pessimistic scenario is that insiders are selling their shares. While retail investors are flocking to the AI story , insiders, including CEO Alex Karp, are dumping shares during this rally. Analysts are asking: If the people in charge of this company truly believe in the value of the stock or its potential for further growth, why are they selling it?
现在,各位,我并不完全同意这个观点。原因是,我相信许多人,包括首席执行官,出于财务责任的原因,会出于一千零一个理由出售股票。如果是他们在买入,我对这个话题的兴趣会大得多。这是真正让我非常感兴趣的统计数据。
如果你看看Palantir首席执行官和高管购买的历史,你会发现它几乎不存在。即使股价低得多的时候也是如此。这正是让我担忧的地方。
Now, guys, I don't necessarily agree with this opinion at all. The reason is that I believe many people, including CEOs, sell for a thousand and one reasons out of financial responsibility. If they were the ones buying, my interest in the subject would be much greater. This is the statistic that actually makes me very interested. If you look at the history of CEO and executive purchases at Palantir, you will find that it is practically non-existent. Even when the share price was much lower. This is what worries me.
好的,各位。以下是如何在Palantir中定位自己。公司的实际价格不是股价。那是4650亿美元。这是流通股数量乘以当前股价。这是如果你想购买每一股流通股所需的金额。接下来我看的是企业价值。
各位,在绝大多数公司中,企业价值大于市值。原因是企业价值等于市值加上债务减去现金。所以,这就像购买公司,摆脱所有债务,并清空银行账户。各位,那是4570亿美元。它低于市值。这很罕见。
这意味着他们的现金多于债务。这太棒了。我喜欢Palantir这一点。这可能是关于Palantir有史以来最好的统计数据之一。
Okay, guys. Here's how to position yourself in Palantir. The actual price of the company is not the share price. That's $465 billion. This is the number of outstanding shares multiplied by the current share price . This is the amount required if you wanted to buy every single outstanding share. The next thing I look at is the value of the facility. Guys, in the vast majority of companies, the value of the enterprise is greater than the market value. The reason is that the value of the establishment equals the market value plus debts minus cash. So, it's like buying the company, getting rid of all the debt, and emptying the bank account. Guys, that's $457 billion. It is less than the market value . This is rare. This means they have more cash than debt. This is amazing. I love this about Palantir. This is probably one of the best statistics about Palantir ever.
现在,这里有一点丑陋的一面。是的,自由现金流显著增加,在过去五年中增长了两倍,但它仍然是自由现金流的140倍和收益的150倍。是的,公司正在疯狂增长,这当然使这个指标更容易接受。
但如果疯狂的增长才是最重要的,为什么不支付自由现金流的1380倍呢?在某个时候,即使考虑到所有这些增长,价格也变得过高。
Now, here lies the slightly ugly side . Yes, free cash flow has increased significantly, tripling in the past five years , but it is still 140 times free cash flow and 150 times earnings . Yes, the company is growing like crazy, and that certainly makes this indicator easier to accept. But if insane growth is all that matters, why not pay 1380 times the free cash flow? At some point , the price becomes too high , even taking all this growth into account.
现在,这里有另一个伟大的统计数据,看看这个。五年的资本回报率仅为8%,但去年达到了33%。他们在这里取得了非常好的进展,这太棒了。85%的毛利率令人难以置信。看看这个利润率。过去五年每年22.5%,去年为49%,他们的收入增长每年为44%,菲尔。
我的意思是,各位,这家公司正在满负荷运转。这个事实无法回避。
Now, here's another great statistic, look at this. The return on capital over five years is only 8% , but it reached 33% last year. They are making really great progress here, and that's fantastic. A gross profit margin of 85% is unbelievable. Look at this profit margin. 22.5 % annually over the past five years, and 49% in the last year, and their revenue growth is 44% annually, Phil. I mean, guys, this company is operating at full capacity. There is no escaping this fact.
撇开欺诈不谈,我并不是说他们是欺诈者,但一年半前我们有一些会计方面的疑问,我坐下来想:他们为什么要那样做?这相当奇怪。然而,就欺诈总体而言,在这里可能很难实现。
Fraud aside, and I'm not trying to say they are fraudsters, but there were some accounting questions we had a year and a half ago and I sit and wonder: " Why did they do that?" It was rather strange . However, with regard to fraud in general, that is probably difficult to achieve here.
让我们看看他们的八大支柱。好的,那是负面的一点。我们已经谈过基于股权的薪酬,以及他们流通股的显著增加。是的,公司在过去五年里规模扩大了很多,超过了这一点,但这仍然是一个麻烦。资本回报率,我不担心,因为现在好多了,但这些大指标在这里。
伙计们,是的,他们的自由现金流和利润在过去五年里显著增加,但这仍然是一个大数字。
Let's take a look at their eight pillars. Good. That's the negative point. We have talked about equity-based compensation , and a significant increase in their outstanding shares . Yes, the company has grown much larger in the past five years to surpass that, but it's still a nuisance. Return on capital, I'm not worried about that because it's much better now, but these big metrics are here. Guys, yes, their free cash flow and profits have increased significantly in the past five years, but it's still a large number.
分析师预计公司利润将在未来四年从1.46美元增长到13.27美元。这意味着大约十倍。在13.27美元的价格下,假设你对公司应用25的市盈率,这是一个大数字。你会得到多少?每股300美元?
这是正确的吗?我在这里欣赏事物吗?所以,如果他们关于收入从77亿美元增长到680亿美元的预测是正确的,那么潜力巨大。这到底是什么?这是疯狂的。这对任何公司来说都是绝对的疯狂。
Analysts expect the company's profits to grow from $1.46 to $13.27 over the next four years . This means approximately ten times as much. At a price of $13.27, let's assume you applied a price-to- earnings ratio of 25 to the company, which is a large number. How much will you get ? $300 per share? Is this correct? Do I appreciate things here? So, there is enormous potential if they are correct about revenue growth from $7.7 billion to $68 billion . What the hell is this? This is madness. This is absolute madness for any company.
所以,伙计们,以下是我对Palantir未来十年的假设。设定了15%、25%和35%的收入增长率。对于自由现金流利润率,我选择了40%、47.5%和55%。根据他们最近的表现,这些可能有点低,但我仍然对这些数字感到满意。
鉴于市盈率和自由现金流率,10年后我应该给这家公司分配什么?不是今天,也不是未来十年的平均值,十年后的情况如何?嗯,他们的资本回报率在增加,这意味着他们是一家高质量的公司,而且他们在自己的领域完全占主导地位,所以他们肯定应该比标准普尔指数中平均的15或16获得溢价。
所以,我设了20、24和28。最后,伙计们,我将使用9.5%的折现率来计算内在价值。记住,这里没有安全边际。这不是我愿意支付的价格。这是我相信基于我所做的这些假设公司应得的价值。
So, folks, here are my assumptions for Palantir's next ten years. Revenue growth rates of 15%, 25% and 35% were set. For the free cash flow margin, I chose 40%, 47.5% and 55%. They may be a little low based on their recent performance, but I'm still comfortable with these numbers. Given the price-to-earnings ratio and free cash flow rate, what should I allocate to this company after 10 years? Not today, and not the average of the next ten years, what about the situation 10 years from now? Well, they have increasing returns on capital, which means they are a high-quality company, and they are completely dominant in their sector, so they definitely deserve a premium compared to the average 15 or 16 in the Standard & Poor's index. So, I put 20, 24, and 28. Finally, guys, I'm going to use a 9.5% discount rate for intrinsic value. Remember, there is no margin of safety here. This is not the price I am willing to pay. That is the value I believe the company deserves based on these assumptions I have made.
所以,伙计们,我按下了分析按钮,得到了最低42、最高340、平均123的结果。基于我的平均假设,如果我按今天的价格支付,我看到的回报率是5%。
So, guys, I pressed the analyze button and got a low of 42, a high of 340 , and an average of 123. Based on my average assumptions, if I pay today's price, I'm looking at a 5% return.
伙计们,想想这个。以错误的价格购买Nvidia股票的成本是多少?因为新闻标题让你兴奋,因为每个人都在喊这些公司正在疯狂增长,所以购买Nvidia或Palantir并支付过高的价格。
但是,伙计们,对一只股票的一个错误决定可能会让你损失成千上万美元。
Guys, think about this. What is the cost of buying Nvidia shares at the wrong price? Buying Nvidia or Palantir and paying an exorbitant price because a news headline excited you, and because everyone is shouting that these companies are growing like crazy. But guys, one bad decision about one stock could cost you thousands and thousands of dollars.
好的,伙计们,让我们在这里回顾一下Nvidia。再说一次,这是一家价值五万五千亿美元的公司。这是价格。公司估值为5.5万亿。所以它不像Palantir那样好,但它的债务对于一家去年产生1270亿美元自由现金流的公司来说仍然非常低。
Okay guys, let 's review "Nvidia" here. Again, it's a company worth five and a half trillion dollars. This is the price. The company is valued at 5.5 trillion. So it's not as good a " Balantir" as it is, but its debt is still very low for a company that generated $127 billion in free cash flow last year.
现在,这家公司比Palantir干净得多。
Now , this company is much cleaner than Palantir.
它不是像Palantir那样被媒体炒作的股票,也不是像Nvidia那样的王者。与Nvidia和Palantir不同,AMD股票的交易价格处于一个更合理的远期市盈率。
It is not a media-hyped stock like Palantir, nor is it a king like Nvidia. Unlike Nvidia and Palantir, AMD stock is trading at a much more reasonable forward price-to-earnings ratio .
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