PSTG波动性极高,短期估值缺乏合理性,但其商业模式具有持久性,逢低买入可能带来回报。
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如果你投资了 Everpure 或关注这家公司,你可能知道,这是一只波动性非常大的股票。为什么市场对这只股票如此反复无常?
You probably know if you're invested in Everpure or watching this company, it is a very volatile stock. Why is the market so touch and go with this one?
或者说,它是否真的反复无常?对于一个正在扩张的企业来说,这只是正常的波动吗?在左边,这是 Everpure 在科技设备和装置中的位置,现在他们也进入了半导体行业的企业软件部分。
Or is it touch and go at all? Is this just normal volatility for a scaling business? Over there on the left side, this is where Everpure fits in tech equipment and devices, and now they're also in that enterprise software portion of the semiconductor industry.
Gartner 将 Everpure 列为企业存储平台的领导者,与 Red Lobster、NASA 和 ServiceNow 并列。
We have Gartner that lists Everpure as a leader in the enterprise storage platform, partnered next to Red Lobster? NASA and ServiceNow.
他们最初是一家存储服务器公司,数据存储于此。他们最终从单纯的硬件发展到存储即服务。
They started as a storage server company where data was stored. They eventually evolved from just the hardware to storage as a service.
因此,Everpure 从仅提供硬件发展到也提供存储即服务。这已成为其商业模式的一部分,而现在他们正变得更加数据化,提供硬件、订阅服务,并逐渐成为一家软件和工程公司。
And so Everpure kind of evolved from providing just the hardware to also providing storage as a service. They had that as part of their business model, and now they're becoming even more of a data everything company. They provide the hardware, they provide it as a subscription service, and they also are becoming more of a software and engineering style company.
内存当然是今年的热门话题,不仅因为 Everpure 购买 NAND 闪存芯片,还因为 AI 数据中心导致的内存和 NAND 闪存短缺使得内存价格大幅上涨。
Memory, of course, is the big topic this year, not just because Everpure buys NAND flash chips, but because memory prices have gone up a lot because of the memory and NAND flash shortage driven by AI data centers.
Everpure 已表示,他们不会试图将这些成本转嫁给客户并从中获利。
Everpure has said they're not going to try to pass those costs off and turn a profit on that on their customers.
去年,Everpure 宣布与 Meta 合作。现在,他们又与另一家位列前五的超大规模企业达成了协议。该收入将在 2028 财年开始计入,提醒一下,这主要对应 2027 日历年。
Last year, Everpure announced that they were partnering with Meta. And now they have a second hyperscaler that they've inked a deal with which is also in the top five. Which revenue will start kicking in in fiscal year 2028, which reminder, that mostly corresponds with calendar year 2027.
突然间,他们从过去 12 个月相当强劲的正自由现金流,转变为第二季度负 20% 的自由现金流利润率。
All of a sudden, they went from pretty robustly free cash flow positive in the last 12 months to negative 20% free cash flow margin in Q2.
这大概概括了股价在进入该季度前远高于每股 100 美元,然后在财报发布后回落至 90 美元低位的走势。再仔细看看 Everpure 的自由现金流。本季度为负近 2.4 亿美元,自由现金流利润率为负 20%。
原因是 Everpure 仍需在产品组件上投入资金。尽管他们已开始转向更基于订阅的软件业务模式,但他们仍然大量涉足硬件。正如我们所说,内存价格高得惊人,因此他们在这些组件上花费了大量现金。
This probably sums up the stock price running well over $100 per share headed into the quarter, and then post-earnings the sell-off back into the low 90s. So zoom in again to that free cash flow for Everpure. Negative nearly $240 million for the quarter, negative free cash flow margin of 20%. And the reason this is, is because Everpure still has to spend money on product components. Even though they have started to shift to a more subscription-based model software business, they still have very much their hands on hardware. And memory prices, as we've talked about, are astronomical, and so they're spending a lot of cash on those components.
管理层表示,约有 5 亿美元的组件预付款。基本上,他们只是在获取履行订单所需的库存。
Management said there was, about a $500 million prepaid expense for components. Basically, they're just getting their hands on inventory that they need to fulfill orders.
过去几年,由于他们优先发展订阅业务,产品收入一直较为平稳。我们可以回到上面切换为季度视图。最近两个季度的季度产品销售额也有所上升。订阅收入则略有放缓。
The product revenue has been a bit more flat the last few years as they've prioritized subscriptions. We can go back up here and toggle quarterly. There has been a bump up the last two quarters in quarterly product sales as well. Subscription revenue has slowed just a bit.
如果订阅现在是 Everpure 的驱动力,那更像是一个平台业务、软件业务,那么这就引出了一个问题:为什么他们需要投入 5 亿美元的预付款来购买存储、NAND 闪存和其他组件来构建存储阵列?
If subscriptions are the driving force now for Everpure, that more of a platform business, a software business, I would say it begs the question then, why are they needing to drop $500 million in prepaid expenses to buy storage, NAND flash, and other components to build the storage arrays?
在某个时候,Everpure 可能会纠正这种情况,调整其关键绩效指标和收入细分,因为目前的情况是,你仍然可以看到几年前的业务模式,即你可以将存储阵列作为订阅服务购买,并与软件捆绑。
Everpure 在云端远程处理所有事务,包括硬件升级等。所有这些既涉及硬件也涉及软件,因此既属于产品也属于订阅。
At some point, Everpure may rectify this situation and shuffle around their key performance indicators and the revenue breakdown, because what's happening is you still have the business from a few years ago where you could purchase those storage arrays as a subscription, bundled with the software. Everpure handles everything remotely in the cloud, upgrades to the hardware and whatnot. All of that is both also hardware and software, so in products and subscription.
现在,在此基础上,真正推动今年和明年增长的新业务是与 Meta 的合作关系,Everpure 实际上根本不提供任何硬件。Meta 直接从 Kioxia 购买 NAND 闪存和硬件,而 Everpure 则负责工程和软件许可,可能还包括软件订阅。
但这是一个较新的收入项目,因此你仍然会看到因硬件预付款而产生的大额且不稳定的自由现金流,因为硬件仍然是业务的主要部分。
And now on top of that, the newer business that's really supercharging growth this year and next is the relationship with Meta, where Everpure actually isn't providing any hardware at all. Meta is buying the NAND flash and the hardware directly from Kioxia, leaving Everpure to do engineering and software licensing and probably also software subscriptions. But that is a newer revenue line item, and so that's why you're still getting these big lumpy free cash flows with prepaid expenses for hardware, because that is still the majority of the business.
Everpure 会成为那样吗?我们不知道,但所有迹象都表明他们正在一点一点地拼凑起来。只是这条路会非常非常坎坷。除了执行风险之外,你知道,他们可能无法成功。
Is Everpure going to be that? We have no idea, but all the signs are there that they are piecing that together little by little. It's just gonna be a really, really bumpy road. In addition to there being execution risk, you know, they don't pull it off.
从指引中可以看出,今年他们将出现一些增长高峰,推动增长率接近 30% 以上,这在很大程度上要归功于 Meta 的交易和第二个超大规模企业。然后,调整后的营业利润率、营业收入增长快于收入,你可以看到这可能会成功。
You can see that in the guidance, this year they are going to get these little patches of elevated growth pushing towards high 30% thanks in large part to the Meta deal. And the second hyperscaler. And then adjusted operating margin operating income is increasing faster than revenue you can see this possibly working out.
本季度另一个问题是,调整后营业收入剔除了股权激励费用。Everpure 的股权激励费用持续上升。他们通过约 6000 万美元的股票回购部分抵消了这一点,基本上动用了资产负债表上的净现金来部分抵消股权激励。
这是本季度后出现问题的一部分,并且仍然是需要密切关注这家公司的事项。这是可能破坏这一复利故事的因素之一。
Another thing that went wrong in the quarter is, of course, adjusted operating income backs out stock-based compensation. SBC keeps going up for Everpure. They did offset it a bit, about sixty million in stock repurchases, they basically dipped into the net cash they have on balance to partially offset the stock-based comp. That is part of what went wrong after the quarter, and it remains something to monitor closely with this company. That is one of the things that could derail this compounding story.
但像这样的指标在调整后的基础上至少表明事情正朝着正确的方向发展,并显示了可能实现的情况。Everpure 在收入方面超越了其最接近的现有竞争对手和 NetApp,很快接近 60 亿美元以上的收入。这就是 NetApp 今天的水平。
But metrics like this on an adjusted basis at least demonstrate that things are headed in the right direction, and it indicates what could be possible. Everpure surpassing its closest incumbent peer and NetApp in terms of revenue, very quickly homing in on six billion-plus in revenue. That's where NetApp is at today.
正如我们已经披露的,Everpure 一直在我们的投资组合中。它在我们投资组合中一直是一只波动很大的股票,但让我们看看它现在的位置,并对其进行反向 DCF 分析。
As we've already disclosed, Everpure has been in our portfolio. It has been a very volatile stock in our portfolio, but let's take a look at where it is, where it sits today, and run a reverse DCF on this.
在录制本节目时,股价在每股 92 美元到 93 美元之间。我们使用了每股收益和自由现金流的混合指标。原因是这两者都应该随着时间的推移收敛到 20% 的利润率。
At the time of this recording, share price is between 92 and $93 per share. We used earnings per share and free cash flow blend. The reason being is because both of these should, over time, converge to a 20% margin.
如果你设定的时间跨度太短,估值就毫无意义,即使在股价大幅回撤之后也是如此。也许这就是股价下跌的原因。这大致说明了问题。估值毫无意义。
If you do too short of a horizon, the valuation makes zero sense whatsoever, even after really large pullbacks in stock price. Maybe that's why the stock price is down. That about sums it up. The valuation makes no sense.
看到最近一个季度自由现金流深度为负,市场必须在未来价格中对此进行折现。但即便如此,由于这家公司尚未优先考虑盈利,你可以这样看并说:“这应该是一个 20 美元的业务,每股 20 美元的股票。”
因为市场确实意识到这是硬件和软件,粘性相当强。我不想说这是一个防御性业务,但这里正在开始构建一些持久的东西。
Seeing free cash flow head deeply into the red in this most recent quarter, the market has to discount that in the future price. But even then, because this company is not prioritizing profit yet, You could look at this and say, "This should be a $20 business, $20 per share stock." Because the market does realize this is hardware and software, it's pretty sticky. I don't wanna say a defensible business, but there is something durable starting to be built here.
是的,所以这将增长率定为 32%,这是一个相当高的门槛。对于 Everpure,波动将继续存在。所以如果你愿意在投资组合中承受这种波动,也许在显著回撤时逢低买入并等待,有可能获得良好的回报。
并且要意识到,波动将比过去几周更加极端。这就是那些正在扩张并有可能真正实现复利的企业会发生的情况。它们会大幅波动。
Yeah, so that puts the growth rate then at 32%, which is a pretty high bar to clear. With Everpure, there is going to continue to be volatility. So if you're willing to have that kind of volatility in your portfolio, maybe buy on the dips when there's a significant pullback and wait this out, there is a possibility that this could be a good payoff. And just realize that, the volatility will be even more extreme than it has been just in the last couple of weeks. This is what happens with businesses that are scaling with the potential to actually compound. They're just gonna be all over the board.
然而,这个情景——未来 10 年每股利润增长 32%——意味着平均收入增长率可能在低至中等的十几百分比,然后盈利能力,无论是在 GAAP 还是调整后的基础上,比如自由现金流将是调整后的基础,都将从零或低个位数增长到 20%。
这两件事都需要发生。所以你甚至不需要这是世界上最疯狂的收入增长故事,只要他们逐步在盈利能力上取得进展,管理好股本稀释,并继续执行他们构建完整数据存储平台的战略。但请系好安全带。
What this scenario, 32% per share profit growth for the next 10 years implies, though, is probably something around a low to mid-teens average revenue growth rate, and then profitability, both on a GAAP and an adjusted basis, like free cash flow would be an adjusted basis, both going from, zero or low single digits to 20%. Both of those things will need to happen. So you don't even need this to be the craziest revenue growth story in the world, as long as they gradually make progress on profitability, manage the dilution in the share count- and just continue to execute on their strategy of building out a full-blown data storage platform But strap in.
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