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高通在数据中心和汽车领域的多元化布局将抵消苹果相关收入的下降,到FY2027非手机业务收入占比将超过50%。

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《Qualcomm (QCOM) CFO & COO on Snapdragon Chips, Agentic AI & Future Beyond AAPL》
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高通正在举办其年度骁龙大会,与此同时公司正进一步向AI驱动的个人电脑、汽车领域和数据中心扩张。高通今年的主题围绕“智能体AI”这一概念展开,即从单纯的应用转向理解用户意图。

Qualcomm is launching its annual Snapdragon conference as the company expands further into AI-powered personal computers, the automotive sector, and data centers. Qualcomm's theme for this year revolves around the concept of "agent AI" that moves from mere applications to understanding user intentions.

如你所知,骁龙大会是我们一年一度展示我们为各类外设和云端设备带来的新技术的盛会。因此,我们正在回顾这些新创新,而本次大会我们关注的领域之一就是生成式人工智能。

As you know, the Snapdragon conference is our annual celebration of the new technologies we bring to all peripherals and cloud devices. So, we are reviewing these new innovations, and one of our areas of focus at this conference is generative artificial intelligence.

我们相信,下一次转变将越来越多地涉及智能体、消费者与这些智能体的交互,以及智能体代表消费者行事。这是一个完全不同的模式。我认为人工智能的能力已经大大增强。这些智能体能够理解消费者的情境,吸收他们所拥有的信息,然后像手机这样的设备可以确定消费者的位置、摄像头看到的内容以及麦克风拾取的声音。

所有这些情境都成为智能体理解如何完成消费者所要求目的的一个非常重要的切入点。因此,我们将把这项技术不仅转移到手机上,还转移到汽车、工业设备、个人人工智能和可穿戴设备,最终到机器人和个人电脑。

所以,我们非常兴奋。这是一项横向技术,它代表着行业一次非常重大的转变。高通实际上正处于这场变革的核心,我们非常兴奋能参与其中,也很兴奋能在我们的活动上谈论它。

We believe the next transition will increasingly involve agents, the consumer's interaction with these agents, and then agents acting on behalf of the consumer. It is a completely different model.

I think artificial intelligence has become much more capable. These agents can understand the consumer's context, absorb the information they possess, and then a device such as a phone can determine the consumer's location, what the camera sees, and what sound the microphones pick up.

All of this context becomes a very important entry point for agents to understand how to fulfill the purpose requested by the consumer. Therefore, we will transfer this technology not only to phones, but also to cars, industrial equipment, personal artificial intelligence and wearable devices, and finally to robots and personal computers.

So, we are very excited. This is a horizontal technology, and it represents a very significant shift in the industry. Qualcomm is actually at the heart of this transformation, and we are very excited to be a part of it and excited to talk about it here at our event.

在活动上,你们发布了面向旗舰手机的“骁龙8 Elite Extreme”和“Elite 6G”平台。为什么这一代推出两款领先且各具特色的芯片如此重要?另外,要在设备上直接运行这些独立要素,需要多高的处理能力?

At the event, you announced the "Snapdragon 8 Elite Extreme" and "Elite 6G" platforms for flagship phones. Why is launching two leading and distinctive chips for this generation so important?

Also, what level of processing power is required to run these independent factors directly on the device?

是的,我认为我们正看到高端手机市场的扩张,不是吗?随着电话在每位消费者的生活中变得越来越重要,越来越多的人在购买更昂贵的手机。因此,在高端手机这一类别,也就是售价超过600美元的设备中,我们看到这一市场在全球扩张,不仅在发达市场,甚至在新兴市场我们也看到这一趋势。

于是我们想,何不把我们在该类别中的路线图拆分,推出两个细分段?一个为你提供最高水平的性能,就是我们的骁龙8 Elite Extreme芯片。然后是骁龙8 Elite,它处于稍低一档的类别,但相比我们去年的产品仍提供令人印象深刻的性能和提升。

所以,这关乎在高端类别中的领先地位。骁龙每年都这样做,而今年又是我们交付一款全球所有OEM厂商都在其设备中使用的出色产品的一年。这是一个非常激动人心的时刻,你应该会期待在未来几个月内看到大量搭载这些芯片的新设备上市。

Yes, I think we are seeing an expansion in the premium phone market, aren't we? As the telephone continues to become increasingly important in every consumer's life, more and more people are buying more expensive phones.

Therefore, in the premium phone category, which are devices that cost more than $600, we see this market expanding globally, not only in developed markets, but even in emerging markets we see this trend.

As a result, we thought, why not split our roadmap in that category and present two segments? One that gives you the highest levels of high performance is our Snapdragon 8 Elite Extreme chip.

Then there's the Snapdragon 8 Elite, which is in a slightly lower category, but still offers impressive performance and improvements over what we had last year. So, it's about leadership in the premium category.

Snapdragon has done this every year, and this is another year in which we deliver an incredible product that all OEMs worldwide use in their devices. It's a very exciting time, and you should expect to see a lot of new devices with these chips arrive over the next few months.

在高通的预测中,我觉得特别令人兴奋的一点是,随着我们迈向2027年,设备端AI能力将加速提升,而不是增长陷入停滞。所以我很好奇,是什么让你有信心认为消费者和开发者已经准备好迎接如此快速的采用周期?

One thing I found particularly exciting as part of Qualcomm's projections is this acceleration in AI capabilities on the device as we head towards 2027, rather than seeing a plateau in growth.

So, I'm curious, what gives you confidence that consumers and developers are ready for such a rapid adoption cycle?

从消费者的角度来看,这是一项非常合乎逻辑的技术。正如我们之前讨论的,人工智能向智能体的转变是其中的核心。从以往消费者使用人工智能的模式转向代理式人工智能时,所需的算力和芯片能力确实发生了变化。

我们用这些芯片提供的就是这种附加能力,让你能够做到这一点。而且要记住,这些设备最重要的一点之一是,它们都靠电池运行,而电池续航非常重要,所以我们以非常高的性能和非常低的功耗提供这些技术,这对我们的客户如何在市场上实现产品差异化至关重要。

You know, it's a very logical technology from a consumer's point of view. The transformation of artificial intelligence into an agent is at the heart of this, as we discussed previously.

The amount of computing power and chip capabilities required really changes when moving from the previous model of consumer use of artificial intelligence to proxy artificial intelligence.

What we offer with these chips is this added capability that allows you to do that. And remember, one of the most important things about these devices, because they all run on battery and battery life is very important, is that we offer these technologies with very high performance and very low power consumption, and this is fundamental to how our customers differentiate their products in the market.

这其中还有一个音频方面的组成部分。你们发布了第二代骁龙音效Elite。你如何看待耳机从仅仅是一个无需携带手机就能播放音乐或打电话的设备,转变为个人人工智能随时可用的接口?

There is also an audio component to this. You have announced the second generation Snapdragon Sound Elite. How do you view the transformation of earbuds from a mere device for streaming music or making calls without needing to carry a phone, to an always-available interface for personal artificial intelligence?

是的,我们最兴奋的设备类别之一是消费者生态系统中的第三类设备。你有手机和个人电脑,但我们设想会有许多消费者使用的第三类设备。这第三类设备有不同的形态。它可能是一副眼镜,就像你看到的Ray-Ban Meta眼镜。

也可能是一副耳机,或一块手表。因此,这个设备能看到你所看到的、听到你所听到的,你可以与它进行互动式AI对话。这类设备的一种形态就是耳机。我们非常兴奋地发布这款新产品,因为你不仅能做迄今为止用耳机所习惯做的事,实际上还能在耳机上添加摄像头,增加它能理解周围环境的更广视角,同时在耳机上放置一个AI“智能体”,让你可以与它对话。

告诉智能体你想完成什么任务。然后它可以在耳机内存在的数据系统内工作,或在需要时求助于云端来执行任务。所以,有一系列非常令人兴奋的新产品即将推出,我们很幸运也很兴奋看到这一产品类别以不同形态演进,而SnapDragonSound技术正是朝这个方向迈出的一步。

Yes, one of the device categories we are most excited about is the third device in the consumer ecosystem. You have your phone and your personal computer, but we envision a third device that many consumers will use.

There are different form factors for this third device. It could be a pair of glasses, like the Ray-Ban Meta glasses you saw. Or it could be a pair of headphones, or a watch. As a result, this device can see what you see and hear what you hear, and you can have an interactive AI conversation with it.

One form of this device is earphones. We are very excited to announce this new product, as you will not only be able to do what you have been used to with your headphones so far, but you will actually be able to add a camera to the headphones, adding a wider perspective of what it can understand around you, as well as placing an AI “agent” on the headphones so that you can have a conversation with it.

Tell the agent what task you want accomplished. It can then work within the data system present in the headset, or resort to the cloud when needed to perform the task. So, there is a very exciting range of new products coming up, and we are fortunate and excited about this product category evolving across different forms, and SnapDragonSound technology is a step in that direction.

既然手机是这个系统的焦点,我们就需要谈谈这场持续多年、逐渐远离“苹果”的转变。在第三季度电话会上,我曾表示高通在最新iPhone发布中的份额将低于你此前20%的预测。我很好奇这一加速下滑的原因,以及供应限制是否是其中一个因素?

Since the phone is the focus of this system, we need to talk about this years-long shift away from "Apple". In the third quarter call, I indicated that Qualcomm's share of the latest iPhone launch would fall below your previous forecast of 20%.

I am curious to know the reason for this accelerated decline, and whether supply constraints are a factor in it?

我认为这是我们过去几年一直在与苹果讨论的缩减规模问题,我们也一直对投资者非常透明,所以我们与该公司的未来计划实际上是转向这些新的多元化领域。我们已经讨论过,得益于汽车、数据中心和物联网领域的增长,苹果的收入将在明年被完全抵消。

所以我们很兴奋。公司正处于转型阶段。明年,我们的非手机收入将超过50%,而在3年内,智能手机将只占我们收入的三分之一。因此,我们对公司的转型非常兴奋。数据中心领域已成为我们的巨大机遇。

我们的收入正以非常强劲的速度增长,我认为我们还有很长的路要走。因此,我们对我们的多元化计划非常兴奋。

I think it's a conversation we've been having with Apple about downsizing over the past several years, and we've been very transparent with investors, so our future plan with the company is to actually move into these new areas of diversification.

We have already discussed how Apple's revenues will be fully offset next year thanks to growth in the automotive, data center, and Internet of Things sectors. So we are excited.

The company is in a transformation phase. Next year, our non-phone revenue will exceed 50%, and within 3 years, smartphones will only account for a third of our revenue. Therefore, we are very excited about the company's transformation.

The data center sector has become a huge opportunity for us. We are growing in revenue at a very strong pace, and I think we have a long way to go. Therefore, we are very excited about our diversification plan.

Akash,看来你已经知道接下来我要说什么了。我注意到你关于发展非手机相关领域的目标,这将弥补产品上损失的全部收入。你设定了从2026财年的24%增长到2027财年超过60%的目标。

是什么让你有远见向华尔街做出如此明确的补偿承诺?

Akash, it seems you already know what I'm going to say next. I have your goal of growing non-phone-related sectors, which will make up for all that lost revenue from products. You have set growth from 24% in fiscal year 2026 to over 60% in fiscal year 2027.

What gives you the vision to make such an explicit promise of compensation to Wall Street?

是的,我们在投资者日上承诺的预期是,到2027年非手机业务收入将占我们总收入的50%以上。有两个非常重要的驱动因素。第一个是汽车领域。这项业务已被证明对Qualcomm极为强劲。

上个季度,我们实现了超过60%的同比收入增长。这一增速使我们在进入明年时处于非常有利的持续增长位置。我们看到美国、欧洲、中国、韩国和日本等全球制造商都在广泛采用。所以,这对我们来说是一项非常出色的工作。

此外,我们还谈到了数据中心收入,它将从2026年的极小基数增长到2027年的约50亿。这两个领域将推动2027年苹果收入抵消的大部分。

Yes, what we committed to on investor days was our expectation that non-phone revenue would make up more than 50% of our revenue in 2027. There are two very important drivers. The first is the automotive sector.

It is a business that has proven to be incredibly strong for Qualcomm. In the last quarter, we achieved year-on-year revenue growth of more than 60%. This growth rate puts us in a very good position to continue growing as we enter next year.

We are seeing widespread adoption by manufacturers globally in the United States, Europe, China, Korea and Japan as well. So, it's a very strong job for us. In addition, we talked about data center revenues, which will go from a very small base in 2026 to about 5 billion in 2027.

These two sectors are driving the bulk of Apple's revenue offset in 2027.

关于内存价格、硬件内存以及整体供应链投入成本,这些一直面临压力。在手机出货量相对稳定的情况下,你们如何保护QCT的毛利率免受成本上涨的影响?

Regarding memory prices, hardware memory, and overall supply chain input costs, these have been under pressure. How do you protect QCT's gross profit margins from cost inflation while phone unit volumes remain relatively stable?

我认为这是整个行业都面临的问题。我们看到数据中心对内存的需求非常高,这给消费设备带来了压力,因为它们的购买力使其承受成本的能力有限,这一点已经反映在我们今年看到的业绩中。具体到投入成本,我们看到它有所上升,我们已经谈到将在未来几个月把这些成本转嫁给客户。

我们正在实施这一计划,这实际上是我们因投入成本上升而不得不做的事情。

I think this is a problem that the entire industry suffers from. We have seen very high demand for memory in data centers, which has put pressure on consumer devices due to their limited ability to bear the costs based on purchasing power, and this has been taken into account in the performance we have seen this year.

Specifically regarding input costs, which we have seen increase, we have talked about passing these costs on to our customers over the next few months. We are implementing this plan, which is actually something we have to do as a result of the increased input costs we are experiencing.

好,我们接着谈数据中心;由于新宣布的与Amazon的合作,我们看到你们的股价在周一上涨。你能解释一下这笔交易的机制,以及定制推理芯片和光学连接如何融入AWS数据中心的路线图吗?

Okay, let's move on to data centers; We saw your shares rise on Monday thanks to this newly announced partnership with Amazon. Could you explain the mechanisms of this deal and how custom inference chips and optical connectivity fit into the AWS data center roadmap?

是的,我们对数据中心业务非常兴奋。我认为我们正通过四个不同类别来扩展我们进入数据中心的产品组合。我们做定制芯片、连接与网络、CPU芯片以及AI加速器。在这些领域中,我们都与客户建立了深入的合作关系,而且我们已经在每条产品线上宣布了其中许多合作。

所以,我们非常兴奋。Amazon是我们在定制芯片领域的主要客户,我们谈到了未来十年价值600亿美元的交易。我们对此感到兴奋。我认为他们正在寻找一个具备规模和技术的合作伙伴,而Qualcomm无疑充分提供了这一点。

你所看到的是他们对我们的能力充满信心,以及我们对为数据中心提供的技术路线图充满信心的体现。这是重要的一步。当然,我们还与另一家全球云服务提供商建立了合作,其名称我们尚未公布。Meta也在寻求与我们合作,我们与他们也有关于中央处理芯片的合作。

我们极其兴奋。我认为我们今年从在数据中心领域毫无影响力,发展到拥有所有这些合作,这真正证明了这家技术公司的规模和效率。

Yes, we are very excited about the data center business. I think we are expanding the portfolio with which we enter data centers across four different categories. We work on custom chips, connectivity and networking, CPU chips, and AI accelerators.

In each of these areas, we have advanced partnerships with customers, and we have already announced many of them in each of these product lines. So, we are very excited. Amazon is our main customer in the area of custom chips, where we have talked about a deal worth $60 billion over the next ten years.

We are excited about that. I think they are looking for a partner with the size and technological capability, and Qualcomm certainly provides that in abundance. What you see is a reflection of their confidence in our capabilities and our confidence in the technological roadmap we provide for data centers.

It's one big step. We also have, of course, a partnership with another global cloud service provider whose name we have not yet announced. Meta is also looking to collaborate with us, and we have a partnership with them regarding central processing chips as well.

We are extremely excited. I think we've gone from not being influential in data centers this year to having all these partnerships, which is a real testament to the size and efficiency of the technology company.

正如你提到的,你为数据中心业务设定了雄心勃勃的财务目标。2027财年收入50亿美元。到2029财年将增长到150亿美元。在这150亿美元目标中,有多少已经通过这两家云服务提供商的合作签约,又有多少是尚未承诺的项目?

You have set ambitious financial targets for the data center business, as you mentioned. $5 billion in revenue for fiscal year 2027. This grows to $15 billion by fiscal year 2029.

How much of this $15 billion target is already contracted under these two cloud provider partnerships versus uncommitted projects?

嗯,当你看看我们云服务提供商的承诺时,正如我提到的,我们与Meta在CPU上有合作,我们还与Humin有合作,Humin是中东一家新兴的云服务提供商。通过这些合作,我相信我们已经在实现150亿美元的道路上走了很远。

所以,我们处于非常有利的位置。显然,这些并不是我们所有的连接。我们正在与许多客户讨论高带宽计算技术,这实际上是我们正在实施的一项创新封装技术,它使我们能够解决数据中心的一大制约因素,即内存带宽。

这大大提高了内存带宽,而内存带宽是大型数据中心如何处理某些推理工作负载的一个主要额外组成部分。所以,我们对此感到兴奋。我认为这将在我们刚刚概述的内容之外增加更多连接。

Well, when you look at the commitments of our cloud service providers, as I mentioned, we have a partnership with Meta on CPUs, and we also have a partnership with Humin, which is an emerging cloud provider in the Middle East.

Through these partnerships, I believe we have already come a long way towards reaching $15 billion. So, we are in a very good position. Obviously, these are not all of our connections.

We are talking with many customers about high-bandwidth computing technology, which is actually an innovative encapsulation technology that we are implementing that allows us to address one of the major constraints in data centers, which is memory bandwidth.

This greatly increases the memory bandwidth, which is a major additional component in how large data centers handle certain inferential workloads. So, we are excited about that.

I think this will add incremental connections alongside what we have just outlined.

投资者预计数据中心的首次实质性收入将在下一个12月季度实现。你们是否仍有望在日历年结束前实现专用芯片的初始收入?

Investors expect the first tangible revenue from data centers to materialize in the next December quarter. Are you still on track to achieve those initial revenues for dedicated chips before the end of the calendar year?

是的,这是正确的。我们的财年大约一周后开始,正如我们之前提到的,我们2027财年第一季度将是收入开始增长的时候。我们已经按预期收到了客户的采购订单,我们也已经开始在TSMC制造芯片。

因此,我们非常乐观,并期待在我们多元化业务的过程中,在数据中心领域建立一项非常重要的业务。

Yes, this is correct. Our fiscal year starts in about a week, and as we mentioned earlier, the first quarter of our fiscal year 2027 is when our revenues will start to grow. We already have purchase orders from customers as expected, and we have also started manufacturing chips at TSMC.

Therefore, we are very optimistic and look forward to building a very important business in the field of data centers as we diversify our activities.

最后一个简短的问题,Akash。我的意思是,数据中心芯片的利润率通常与高利润率的手机处理器非常不同。2027财年实现50亿美元数据中心收入将如何影响QCT部门的毛利率结构?

One last quick question here, Akash. I mean, data center chips typically carry a very different profit margin than high-margin phone processors. How will achieving $5 billion in data center revenue in fiscal year 2027 affect the gross margin structure of the QCT segment?

嗯,我认为当你考虑数据中心的长期机会时,我们非常乐观地认为,由于我们数据中心业务中某些组合的增长,QCT的毛利率将保持在我们历史平均水平。这是我们对2027年的整体展望,其中大部分收入来自专用芯片合同,我们预计这些合同的利润率将低于QCT的平均利润率。

Well, I think when you consider the long-term opportunity in data centers, we are very optimistic that QCT's gross margins will remain at our historical average as a result of some mix that will grow in our data center business.

This is our overall outlook for 2027, with most revenue coming from dedicated chip contracts, which we expect to have profit margins below QCT's average margins.

观察点

非手机业务收入占比
超过总收入的50%
2027财年财报
若实现则支撑看涨逻辑;若无法抵消Apple相关损失则削弱该逻辑

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