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SPGI是高质量业务,但目前估值过高;等待价格接近300美元时买入。

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那么,让我们从三家公司中最好的业务开始,标普全球,股票代码为SPGI。这家公司运营着全球最大的信用评级机构,并且拥有标普500指数本身。现在,该股今年下跌了约12%,大多数人看到这一点就认为它被压垮了。

但是,有一个几乎所有人都忽略的巨大细节。早在7月1日,标普剥离了整个部门,并直接将其作为单独的股票分发给股东。所以,那所谓的下跌中很大一部分并不是亏损的钱。它是价值被实际分配给了拥有它的人。

剩下的是一个更精简、更干净、极其赚钱的公司,现在以更低的价格交易。

So, let's start with the best business of the three, S&P Global, with the ticker symbol SPGI. This company runs the largest credit rating agency on the planet, and it owns the S&P 500 index itself. Now, the stock is down about 12% this year, and most people see that and think that's been crushed. But, there is a massive detail almost everyone is missing. Back on July 1st, S&P spun off an entire division and handed it directly to shareholders as a separate stock. So, a big piece of that so-called drop is not lost money. It's value that was literally distributed to the people who owned it. What is left behind is a leaner, cleaner, insanely profitable company now trading at a lower price.

这个业务的护城河几乎与市场上其他任何东西都不同。你不能明天就创办一家公司,然后说服全球债券市场像信任标普那样信任你的评级。这种信任是经过100多年建立起来的,而标普500指数,数万亿美元的资金都以它为基准。

即使你有无限的资金和无限的时间,你可能也无法重建它。

The moat on this business is unlike almost anything else in the market. You cannot just start a company tomorrow and convince the global bond market to trust your ratings the way they trust S&P. That trust was built over more than 100 years, and the S&P 500 index, trillions of dollars are benchmarked to it. You probably could not recreate that if you had unlimited money and unlimited time.

上个季度,评级业务增长了17%。指数业务增长了20%。这两个部门的利润率都在70%左右。这对任何公司来说都是精英级别的。

Last quarter, the ratings business grew 17%. The index business grew 20%. Both of those segments run at profit margins around 70%. That is elite in any way, shape, or form for any company.

整体调整后盈利跃升23%,利润率为54%。该公司今年正在回购超过70亿美元的自家股票。

Overall adjusted earnings jumped 23% at a 54% profit margin. The company's buying back over 7 billion of its own stock this year.

还有一件事是人们忽视的。人工智能实际上可能是标普的顺风,而不是威胁。人工智能模型需要大量可信、经过验证、高质量的数据。标普几十年来一直在收集这些数据。

And here's something people are overlooking. AI might actually be a tailwind for the S&P, not a threat. AI models need massive amounts of trusted, verified, high-quality data. S&P has been collecting exactly that for decades.

公司大约一半的业务增长速度比那两个明星部门慢得多。那较慢的一半拖累了整体数字。而评级业务与经济直接相关。如果我们陷入衰退,公司停止借贷或借贷大幅减少,那个高利润引擎就会大幅放缓。

About half the company grows at a much, much slower pace than those two superstar segments. That slower half drags the overall numbers down. And the ratings business is directly tied to the economy. If we hit a recession and companies stop borrowing or borrow a lot less, that high-margin engine slows way down.

部分数据业务也存在合理的人工智能风险。过去花数小时钻研标普研究工具的分析师可能很快就会让人工智能在几秒钟内完成完全相同的工作。标普的整体战略取决于成为那些人工智能工具所依赖的可信数据源,而不是被它们取代。

There's also a legitimate AI risk to part of the data business. And analysts who used to spend hours digging through S&P's research tools might soon just ask an AI to do the exact same work in a matter of seconds. S&P's entire strategy depends on becoming the trusted data source that powers those AI tools, not getting replaced by them.

所以,大问题是:价格是否已经跌得足够多,足以证明为金融领域最好的业务之一支付溢价是合理的?大多数人将股票价格视为公司的价格。我不这么认为。它是市值,因为那是流通股数乘以股价。所以,如果你想购买所有流通股,这是一个1300亿美元的业务。

接下来,我们有企业价值,1520亿美元。这是购买所有股票、偿还所有债务、清空所有银行账户并把它们装进口袋的数目。如果你这样做,公司会花费你1520亿美元,但公司就没有债务了。这220亿美元的差异基本上就是他们的债务,净债务。

So the big question is this: Has the price dropped far enough to justify paying up for one of the best businesses in all of finance? Most people look at the price of the stock as the price of the company. I do not. It's the market cap, cuz that's the number of shares outstanding multiplied by the stock price. So this is a $130 billion business if you want to buy every share outstanding. Next, we have the enterprise value, 152 billion. This is the number of buying all the shares, paying off all the debt, and emptying all the bank accounts and putting them in your pocket. If you did that, the company would cost you 152 billion, but you'd have no debt on the company. This difference of 22 billion is essentially their debt, net debt.

那么,这是好是坏?嗯,我们必须将其与自由现金流进行比较。去年的自由现金流是55亿美元。在过去5年里,他们每年做了41.3亿美元。所以,这肯定在改善,这有助于说明“如果自由现金流在改善,业务怎么会变差?”

Now, is that good or bad? Well, we have to compare it to the free cash flow. Last year's free cash flow was 5 and 1/2 billion. Over the last 5 years, they've done 4.13 billion a year. So, that's definitely getting better, which helps the case of saying, "How could the business be getting worse if free cash flow is getting better?"

所以,他们的债务大约是去年自由现金流的四倍。不算差,不像Meta或Nvidia等其他一些公司那样惊人,但仍然相当不错。

So, they're about four times uh four times their free cash flow last year in terms of debt. Not not bad, not amazing like some of these other companies like Meta or Nvidia, but it's still pretty good.

现在,关于资本回报率。我喜欢他们5年平均资本回报率。这是一个质量指标,实际上可能比定量指标更重要。过去5年是15%,去年是8%。那么,这是否会成为即将到来的趋势,资本回报率会走低?

就像我说的,这是一个质量指标。这表明公司在过去5年里在利用业务中的资金获得良好回报方面做得非常出色。这是一个非常非常好的指标。

Now, returns on capital. I like their 5-year average return on capital. This is a quality metric, just as much actually probably more than a quantitative metric. This is 15% for the last 5 years, 8% last year. So, is this going to become a trend here coming soon where the returns on capital go lower? Like I said, it's a quality metric. This says that the company over the last 5 years has done a great job of getting a good return on the money that's in the business. That's a very, very good metric.

接下来,这就是他们的利润率有趣的地方。过去10年是29.5%,过去5年是28%、27.5%。去年是30.5%。所以,它有点波动。是更偏向过去10年,更偏向过去5年,还是他们过去1年的数字会再次提升我们所有人?

Next, so this is what's interesting about their profit margin. The last 10 years was 29 and 1/2% the last 5 years was 28 27 and 1/2. Last year was 30.5%. So, it's a little bit all over the board. Is it more of the last 10 years, more of the last 5 years, or is their last 1-year number going to lift us all up again?

伙计们,这是另一件我喜欢的事情。他们实际上一直是他们公司的净卖家。所以,在过去5年里,他们总共卖掉了大约37.4亿美元的业务。但有趣的是,他们过去10年、5年和3年的收入增长分别是11.5%、15.5%和10%。

这太棒了。所以对我来说,他们一直在出售部门,但他们的收入仍在增长。

Guys, here's what the other thing I love. They've actually been a net seller in their company. So, they've sold off about 3.74 billion dollars worth of businesses over the last 5 years total. But here's what's interesting. Their revenue growth of the last 10, 5, and 3 years 11 and 1/2, 15 and 1/2, and 10%. This is awesome. So to me, they've been selling cut divisions, but yet their revenue is still growing.

现在,伙计们,他们以24倍自由现金流和26倍市盈率出售。为什么市盈率更高?嗯,他们的自由现金流比净利润高出不少。我喜欢这一点。大约高出10%。这是一个值得关注的指标。我喜欢看到自由现金流更高,因为大多数投资者只看净利润。

Now guys, they're selling for 24 times free cash flow and 26 times earnings. Why is the PE ratio higher? Well, their free cash flow is larger than their net income by a good amount. I like that. It's about 10% higher. That's a good metric to look at. I like seeing when free cash flow is higher cuz most investors only look at net income.

让我们现在去看看八大支柱。好的。它有八个勾中的六个。现在,高资本回报率,股价实际上下跌了13%,这意味着如果他们回购便宜的股票,他们为投资者做了好事。现金流增加了20亿,净利润增加了2.5,收入增加了83亿,债务合理。

只是这5年市盈率和5年价格对自由现金流有点X。但再说一次,仅凭这一点并不能告诉我们一家公司是否昂贵。因为如果他们能连续几年每年增长20%到30%的利润,那就是便宜的。

Let's go check out the eight pillars right now. All right. So it's got six of the eight check marks. Now, high returns on capital, shares are actually down 13%, which means if they're buying back cheap shares, they're doing good thing for their investors. Cash flow is up 2 billion, net income is up 2 and 1/2, revenue is up 8.3 billion, and reasonable debt. It's just these 5-year PE and 5-year price to free cash flow that's a little bit of an X. But again, that alone does not tell us if a company's expensive. Cuz if they can grow their profit 20 30% a year for several years, that's cheap.

所以让我们看看分析师对此的看法。你猜怎么着,伙计们,分析师预计利润将从18美元增长到27美元。这是未来4年增长50%。所以大约是高个位数、低两位数的增长率。不算惊人,也不算差。

今年收入下降3%,增长5%、7%、5.5%和5.3%。

So let's see what analysts think about that. And guess what guys, analysts have the profit growing from 18 to $27. It's a 50% increase over the next 4 years. So it's about high single digits, low double digits growth rate. Not incredible, not bad. With revenue down 3% this year and growing 5, 7, 5 and 1/2, and 5.3%.

但我想提醒你,如果我们这次陷入衰退,所有这些数字都会改变。这就是为什么对于像标普全球这样的公司,你需要从更长远的角度来看。如果你处于像现在这样的繁荣市场中,确保你做出的假设比他们在经济良好时期所做的要稍微低一些。

But I want to remind you, if we hit a recession this time, it's going to change all of these numbers. That's why for a company like S&P Global, you need to look on a longer scale. And if you're in the middle of a booming market like we are now, make sure you make assumptions that are a little bit less than what they've been doing during a good economy.

我正在做一个10年的分析。我做了3%、5%和7%的收入增长。如果你做2%、4%、6%,我也没问题。我可以提出这样的论点:“嗯,未来10年我们可能会经历衰退,因为我们往往每4或5年就会有一次。”所以,这些有点像介于两者之间,你在这里怎么做?

I'm doing a 10-year analysis. I did 3, 5, and 7% revenue growth. I'm fine if you do 2, 4, 6. I can make that argument saying, "Well, the next 10 years we'll probably have a recession cuz we tend to have one every 4 or 5 years." So, these are kind of it's kind of like an in-between, what do you do here?

接下来,我专注于自由现金流。正如你所看到的,它高于利润率。所以,我输入了33、34和35。伙计们,我实际上要改变这个。我实际上要改为30、32和34。因为我要假设,在经历了最近几年的繁荣之后,它可能会稍微降温。

Next, I'm focusing on free cash flow here. As you can see, it's higher than profit margin. So, I put in 33, 34, and 35. Guys, I'm actually going to change this. I'm actually going to go 30, 32, and 34. Cuz I'm going to assume that coming off a booming recent few years, that it's probably going to die down just a little bit.

下一个问题。10年后我会给这家公司分配什么市盈率和自由现金流价格?不是今天,不是5年后,也不是未来10年的平均值。10年后,这家公司应该证明什么市盈率是合理的?现在,这是一个很难的问题。

有很多人对此感到困惑。标普500长期平均市盈率是15或16。但是,伙计们,那包括了好的公司和坏的公司。这就是为什么我们的资本回报率很重要。这是一个质量指标。这是一家更好的公司。

它有护城河。他们控制着这个行业,很难把他们赶走。所以,我输入了14、18和22。这合理吗?我能理解走高。但我走低了,因为增长率有点缓和了。

Next question. What PE and price of free cash flow would I assign to this company 10 years from now? Not today, not 5 years from now, not the average over the next 10 years. 10 years from now, what PE should this company justify? Now, this is a hard one to There are a lot of people that get their head around. The average over long periods of time on the S&P is 15 or 16. But guys, that includes good companies and bad companies. That's why our return on capital is important. This is a quality metric. This is a better company. This has a moat. They control this industry and it's hard to kick them off that. So, I put in 14, 18, and 22. Is that reasonable? I can understand going higher. But I went lower because the growth rate's kind of like tempered a little bit.

然后最后,我总是告诉人们做9%到10%的回报。因为我的目标不是要说“我想要什么价格?”我的目标是说,内在价值是多少?如果我匹配市场9%或10%,这家公司值多少钱?但你要记住,你需要安全边际。

你怎么得到它?你在这里输入一个比9.5%更高的数字。但为了找出公司的价值,我输入了这些9%。

And then finally, I always tell people do a 9 to 10% return. Because my goal here is not to say, "What price do I want it for?" My goal here is to say, what is the intrinsic value? What's the company worth if I were to match the market 9 or 10%? But you got to remember, you need a margin of safety. How do you get that? You put a higher number in here than the 9 and 1/2%. But for purposes of finding out what the company is worth, I put in these 9%.

所以,我运行股票分析器。我的低价是235,高价是470,中间价是334。伙计们,股票目前是440。根据我的中间假设,如果我以今天的价格买入,我看到的回报大约是5.9%。所以,对我来说,这不是我想要的。

但这是一家优质公司,所以我要把它加入我的观察名单。我将在每股300美元左右加入我的观察名单,因为我需要那个安全边际。所以,我拿了我335的价值,给了它一点折扣。这让我得到我们软件的提醒,我可以再次运行这些数字。

So, I run the stock analyzer. I have a low price of 235, high price of 470, middle price of 334. Guys, the stock is currently at 440. Based on my middle assumptions, if I paid today's price for it, I'm looking at a return about 5.9%. So, for me, not exactly what I'm looking for here. But it's a quality company, so I'm going to add it to my watch list. And I'm going to add to my watch list at around $300 a share because I need that margin of safety. So, I took my value of 335 and gave it a little bit of a discount. It allowed me to then get notified by our software and I can go run the numbers again.

让我们去看看分析师的看法。哦,分析师似乎对此很乐观。今年每股11.80美元,到2031年增长到每股25美元。这是很大的增长潜力。

Let's go check out what analysts think. Ooh, analysts seem to be optimistic about this. $11.80 per share this year, growing to $25 per share in 2031. That's a lot of growth potential.

随着收入从415亿增长到705亿,这基本上每年增长10%。这就是他们所指望的。所以,对于未来10年,我采取了保守态度。我做了5%、7.5%和10%的收入增长。接下来,我专注于自由现金流。

我做了25%、30%和35%。你可以看到过去10年的自由现金流变得好多了。讽刺的是,不讽刺,资本回报率也是如此。所以,即使资本回报率较低,它们也在变好。接下来,我10年后的市盈率,我输入了14、18和22,主要是受资本回报率的影响。最后,我必须把它改为我全面的9.5%回报率。

With revenue growing from 41 and 1/2 billion to 70.5 billion, which is basically basically 10% growth every single year. That's what they're banking on. So, for the next 10 years, I went conservative. I did 5, 7 and 1/2, and 10% revenue growth. Next, I focus on free cash flow. I did 25, 30, and 35%. You can see the free cash flow over the last 10 years getting a lot better. Ironically, not ironic, so are the returns on capital. So, even though the returns on capital are lower, they are getting better. Next, my PE for 10 years down the road, I put 14, 18, and 22, mostly driven down by the returns on capital. And finally, I got to change this to my 9 and 1/2% return across the board.

根据我的假设,我的低价是200基于现金流,高价是550,中间价是340。所以,如果我的中间假设发生,基于我的自由现金流倍数,我可以预期14%的年化回报。

And according to my assumptions, I have a low price of 200 based on cash flow, a high price of 550, with a middle price of 340. So, if my middle assumptions occur, based on my multiple free cash flow, I can expect a 14% annualized return.

但是,他们承担了更多的债务,但没有我们接下来要讨论的那家公司那么多。

But, they are taking on more debt, but not as much as the next company we're going to talk about.

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