苹果并非做空候选,因为AI驱动的Mac增长潜力,但当前估值使得新开多头仓位缺乏吸引力。
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事实上,它比 M5 快约 49%。不。所以,你不能只停留在内存带宽上。在本视频的其余部分,你会看到确切的原因。
Uh, in fact, it's about 49% faster than the M5. No. So, you can't just stop here at memory bandwidth. And for the rest of this video, you'll see exactly why.
这适用于很多用途。我们稍后会举一些例子。让一堆这样的芯片各自处理独立的智能体或 AI 任务有一些优势。这没问题。我们用我们的初创公司 Reinvest 处理了很多这类工作。但 M5 的非凡之处在于,当你切换过去,你实际上可以获得高达 512 GB 的统一数据,基本上是统一内存,而 GPU 上只有 32 GB。
Now, that works great for a lot of purposes. Like, we'll go through some examples of that in a moment. And there's some advantages to having just a bunch of those working on their own individualistic agentic or AI tasks. That's fine. You know, we handle a lot of that with our startup, Reinvest. But what's remarkable about the M5 is when you slide over, you can actually get up to 512 GB of unified data where you're only or or unified RAM essentially, whereas you're only getting 32 on the GPU.
所以在 Mac 中,GPU 和 CPU 都可以从这个内存池中提取数据,而 5090 仅限于其芯片组上的内存池。
And so basically in the Mac both the GPU and the CPU can pull from this RAM pool whereas the 5090 is limited to the RAM pool on its chipset.
但 512,天哪。512 版本还不可用,但你会看到即使是 256 GB 版本也非常非常强大。这解释了为什么 OpenAI 在购买这些。
But 512, holy moly. Now, the 512 is not available yet, but you'll see how even the 256 GB version is really, really powerful. And it explains why OpenAI is buying these.
在视频的后面,我们会讨论我认为这对苹果的目标价意味着什么。以及,它是买入还是卖出?你真正能证明什么样的估值?只要知道,当我们到最后,最终归结为你认为苹果的增长会是什么。
Now, later in the video, we'll go through what I think this means for Apple's price target. And, you know, is it a buy plus or minus? What valuation can you really justify here? Just know when we get down to that end, it ultimately comes down to what you think Apple's growth is going to be.
我会给你一个例子,如果我真的看好苹果,我认为这实际上可能会随着时间的推移推动苹果股价上涨,因为存在真正的限制。
And I'll give you an example of where if I was really bullish Apple, I think this could actually move Apple stock to over time because there are real constraints.
这些会卖得非常火爆的原因之一是苹果实际上拥有内存分配,而这是很多实验室现在想要的。具体来说,OpenAI。你看,他们实际上运行一个为在 Mac 金属上运行而编码的模型,你知道,硅。
You know, one of the reasons these are going to be selling like freaking hotcakes is because Apple actually has the memory allocation and that's what a lot of labs want right now. Specifically, OpenAI. See, they actually run a model that is coded to work on Mac mel metals, you know, silicons.
这是 120,嗯,实际上是 1170 亿参数的模型。酷的是它实际上只使用大约 61 GB 的内存,我稍微四舍五入了一下。更准确地说大约是 60.8,这意味着使用 96 GB 的芯片,你可以毫无问题地运行它。
你可以买 96 GB 的 M5 Ultra 来运行它,还有余量,但你也可以在 256 或 512 上运行。
It's the 120, well, it's technically 117 billion parameter model. And the cool thing is it actually only uses about 61 gigabytes approximately, I'm rounding a little bit, of memory. It's about 60.8 to be more exact, which means with a 96 GB chip, you could actually run it no problem. You could actually get the 96 gigabyte M5 Ultra and run it and still have headroom, but you can also run it on the 256 or the 512.
如果你运行一个使用 60 GB 的模型,你不可能在 5090 上运行它。它就是不行。你将不得不使用 Blackwell RTX 6000,我们稍后会进行比较,因为那会让你说:“天哪,苹果,这太聪明了。”
If you're running a model that's using 60 GB, you ain't running it on the 5090. It's just not going to work. you're going to have to go to Blackwell RTX 6000, which we'll compare to that in just a moment because that's going to make you go, "Damn, Apple, that is genius."
但无论如何,96,比如说,在这里简化来说就是有更多的余量。在这个余量中,除了实际加载的模型之外,你能拥有什么?更多的上下文、更大的文档、更多的内存、更多关于你向这些 AI 模型唠叨的任何内容的历史,或者你希望你的智能体做的任何事情,你的业务,等等。
But anyway, a 96 uh let's say is right here oversimplifying is called having more headroom. What can you have in this headroom above the actual loaded model? more context, larger documents, more memory, more history about whatever it is you're blabbing about to these AI models or whatever it is you want your agent to do, your business, whatever.
如果你有 256,天哪,你有很多余量。然后,当然,如果你有 512,天哪,你为什么需要它?因为你可以运行更大的模型。然后你可以说:“哇,我们有这么多空间。我们实际上不需要那么多余量。
我们可以在这个级别运行一个模型,仍然有所有这些余量。这就是重点。”
If you got the 256, holy smokes, you got a whole lot more headroom. And then, of course, if you got the 512, holy moly, why do you even need it? Well, because you could run a bigger model. You could then come in and say, "Wow, we got so much space. We don't actually need that much headroom. We could run a model over here at this level and still have all of this headroom up here. That's the point.
这些 Mac 在带宽方面实际上非常快。这些新发布的 Mac 拥有统一内存,这再次允许 GPU 访问所有 RAM。这真的很好。
These Macs are actually so freaking fast on the bandwidth point of view. These new Macs that are announced and they have unified memory which again is allowing the GPU to access all of that RAM. That is really nice.
所以突然之间,你知道,我们可以用这个做很多智能体工作。我会给你一些例子。突然之间,我们有了价格比较。所以,我配置的这台 Mac Mini 或 Mac Studio 是 36 核 CPU、80 核 GPU、32 核神经引擎。
这是 256 版本。这个版本的价格刚好超过 12,000 美元。
So all of a sudden now you know we can do a lot of identic work with this. I'll give you some examples. All of a sudden, now we got a price compare. So, this Mac Mini or Mac Studio that I configured is the 36 core CPU, 80 core GPU, 32 core neural engine. It's the 256 version. This version works out to just over $12,000.
这听起来很荒谬,对吧?我为什么要花 12,000 美元买一台电脑?但那是整台电脑。除了显示器之外,你需要的一切都在里面,相比之下,一台台式电脑,嗯,如果我想运行一个至少需要 96 GB 的模型,那要花多少钱?嗯,这里我有 256。
Now, that sounds ridiculous, right? Why am I going to spend $12,000 on a computer? But that's the whole computer. everything you need other than like the monitor, right, is in that compared to a desktop computer where hm how much is that going to cost if I wanted to run let's say a model that needed at least 96 GB? Well, here I've got 256.
到那时,你可以拥有整台苹果电脑,因为如果你买了这个芯片,你仍然需要把它装进机器里。你仍然需要把它放进服务器机架或工作站,你必须购买所有其他组件。Mac 已经包含了所有这些,只需 12,000 美元。
Like at that point you could have the whole Apple computer because now if you bought this chip you still have to put it into a machine. You still have to put it into either a server rack or a workstation and you got to buy all the other components for it. The Mac comes loaded with it all for uh for for that um you know $12,000.
现在,我会调出实际配置,这样我们就能看到,我们稍后会讨论其他配置,比如迷你版等等,但这实际上展示了苹果刚刚交付的产品的力量,这也解释了为什么 OpenAI,即使我们会推测他们可能在这里寻找的一些与苹果相关的用途。
Now, I I'll pull up the actual configuration so we see it and we'll go through some of the other configurations like the minis and all that in just a moment, but it actually shows you the power of what Apple has just delivered here and it makes sense why OpenAI, you know, even though there we'll speculate about some of the Apple related purposes that they could be looking for here.
我认为这在很大程度上与他们想要进入智能体编码 API 的愿望有关,因为他们想要 AI,对吧?那是钱所在的地方,收入。
I think a lot of this has to do with their desire to get into agentic coding APIs because they want the eye, right? That's where the dollar is, the income.
256 型号。如果我选择 M5 Ultra 并加上 4TB 版本,那会花掉我 12,300 美元。我可以降到 96GB 版本,天哪,只要 8,300 美元。那仍然很多,对吧?但只需 8,300 美元。
The 256 model. If I go with the M5 Ultra and we throw in the 4TB version, that cost me $12,300. I could drop down to the 96GB version, holy smokes, it's only $8,300. It's still a lot, right? But it's only $8,300.
所以,你确实需要中等规模的代码库。你将需要更多的余量。如果你跳到 M5 的 256 或 512 型号,你现在就能获得它。那就是你获得额外余量的地方。这就是这里的价值。
So, you really want like a medium-sized code base. You're going to need more headroom. You can now get that if you jump into that 256 or 512 model of that M5. That's where you're getting that extra headroom. And that's the value here.
所以想想一些例子。假设你在做金融研究,你需要放入大量金融 SEC 报告,或者你需要放入,我不知道,另一个例子,50,000 份文件到一个批次中。你会想要那个额外的余量。这就是额外好处所在,你的代理不会受到上下文限制。你可以做更多事情,甚至可以用更大的模型。
So like think about just some examples for this. Let's say you're doing financial research and you got to put a whole lot of financial SEC reports in or you got to put I don't know, here's another example, 50,000 filings into a single batch. You're going to want that extra headroom. That's where this extra benefit comes from is your agent isn't going to get context limited. You could go do a lot more and you could even do things with larger models.
我实际上可以在 M5 Ultra 上运行它,对吧?我的意思是,有无数的事情。一个 Frontier Scale Agent C,随便什么,对吧?你可以在这里做无数的事情。
I can actually run that on the M5 Ultra, right? I mean, there are endless things. A Frontier Scale Agent C, whatever, right? There are endless things that you could do here.
这就是苹果现在打包在一起的力量。而且它令人难以置信。所以这真的取决于任务。你想运行非常大的代理工作负载,用于编码数据库或大规模文件分析吗?你可能想要那个 M5。这取决于你需要多少余量以及你想运行什么样的模型,对吧?
That's the power of what Apple has packaged together right now. And it's incredible. So this is really task dependent. Do you want to run really big agentic workloads for coding databases or massive filings analysis? You might want that M5. Depends how much headroom you needs and what kind of model models you want to run, right?
但是,你知道,值得思考的是。这真的令人印象深刻。但对于代理用途,人们购买 Mac Studio 是作为对人工智能代理任务可能很快出现在你附近的 iPhone 上的看涨期权,这有点令人难以置信。
But, you know, something to think about. This is really impressive. But for aentic use, people are buying Mac Studios as a call option on what artificial intelligence uh chores, agentic chores might end up coming to an iPhone near you soon, which is kind of incredible.
那么,如果那款 iPhone 折叠屏可能随着新操作系统一起发布,到 10 月我们能在手机上运行本地代理 AI 呢?这个论点可能是,如果你开始在 Mac Studio 上建立服务器集,比如 OpenAI,你可能会成为支持 Mac 用户或 iOS 用户的首选 Mac 基础设施。
So, what if that iPhone fold potentially gets announced with a new operating system and by October we're able to run localized Aentic AI on our phones. The thesis is maybe if you start building out server sets on Mac studios like OpenAI, you might be the go-to Mac infrastructure supporting Mac users or iOS users.
现在,其中很多是猜测,好吗?我们听到苹果几年前出来说,“啊,推出 AI”,然后他们几乎什么都没做。好吧,也许我不应该说他们什么都没做。文本消息摘要很酷。通知摘要很酷。这只是触及了 AI 的表面,对吧?
电子邮件通知很酷。电子邮件搜索变得更好了。你现在可以用文本搜索你的照片,这也有点令人毛骨悚然,但他们基本上以某种方式分类了你所有的照片,然后你搜索“卷饼”,所有你吃卷饼的照片都会出现,每次我这样做,我都会看到我戴着宽边帽谈论塔可星期二,我想那是塔可星期二,不是卷饼星期二,但我想这已经够接近了。
所以这就是苹果一直在做的那种 AI,或者制作小表情符号。
Now, a lot of that is speculation, okay? We've heard Apple come out years ago and go, "Ah, introducing AI and and they've done like nothing." Okay, maybe I shouldn't say they've done nothing. Text message summaries are cool. Notification summaries are cool. This is like scratching the surface of AI, right? Email notifications are cool. Email search has gotten better. Uh, you can now search your photos with text and which is also kind of creepy, but they basically like somehow uh categorize all your photos and then you search like burrito, all your photos of you with burritos come up and every time I do it, I just get me wearing a sombrero talking about taco Tuesday and I'm like that's that's Taco Tuesday. It's not burrito Tuesday, but I guess it's close enough. So like that's the kind of AI or like making little mmojis that Apple has been doing.
现在有一个赌注,苹果实际上可能进入代理 AI,这可能根据 The Information 通过 Tech Republic 导致 OpenAI 购买数万台 Mac mini 和 Mac Studio。
And there's a bet now that Apple could actually get into agentic AI and that potentially is leading per the information via tech republic open AI to purchase tens of thousands of Mac minis and Mac studios.
现在 Mac mini 仍然可用。它们都是预购,截至现在开始于 9 月 22 日可用。我注意到的是,配备 64GB 内存的 Mac Mini 的 M5 Pro 芯片在发布日可用。
看起来这对所有内存变体都可用。如果我转到 M6 芯片,让我们看看这里有什么。我们转到 M6。我们只能达到 32GB 的 RAM。哦,等等。不。从更多选项中选择。好的。他们这里有一个小捆绑包。
64。哦,不。我必须更新到其他东西。好吧。不管怎样。如果我接受更改。无论如何,对于 mini,我仍然可以在 22 日拿到这个设备。哦,它把我降回 M5。所以,你不能用 64GB 的 RAM 获得 M6。这就是它所做的。所以,那些是可用的。
Now the Mac minis are still available right now. They're all pre-order uh as of uh now starting to be available uh September 22nd. And what I noticed is that the M5 Pro chip for the Mac Mini with 64 GB of memory is available on release day. Uh and it looks like that's available for all variations of memory. If I go to the M6 chip, uh let's see what we have here. We go to the M6. We can only go up to 32 GB of RAM. Oh, wait. No. Choose from more options. Okay. They've got a little bundle here. 64. Oh, no. I've got to update to something else. All right. Whatever. If I accept the change. Anyway, with the mini, I could still get this device on the 22nd. Oh, it it dumps me back down to the M5. So, you can't get the M6 with 64GB of RAM. That's what it's doing. So, those are available.
但看看 Mac Studio。这是人们为之疯狂的芯片,M5 Ultra 芯片。很多开发者都在等待未来的 512 选项,因为你将能够在这上面运行非常大的模型。如果他们真的在一个设备中有 256GB 的 RAM,人们可能会仅仅因为他们有内存而购买这些 M5 Ultra。
But look at the Mac Studio. This is the chip people are freaking out about, the M5 Ultra chip. A lot of devs are waiting for the future 512 option because you're going to be able to run really big models on this. If they actually have the 256 GB of RAM in one device, people might be buying these M5 Ultras solely because they actually have the memory.
所以当这个故事在市场收盘前约 25 分钟出现时,苹果并没有太大变动。我认为这是因为 OpenAI 进来并表示我们将购买任何地方的内存来运行代理任务,这是一种说法,即我们看到的实验室把他们拥有的每一分钱都花光的循环融资远未结束。
它现在才刚刚开始。这让我看涨。这就是为什么我说我认为衰退不会很快到来。
And so when this story came out about 25 minutes before the market closed, Apple didn't move that much. I think it's because the sign that OpenAI is coming in going we will buy memory wherever it is to run agentic tasks is a way of saying a the circular financing that we're seeing of the labs blowing every freaking dollar they have is nowhere near over. It is just getting started now. That makes me bullish. This is why I say I don't think a recession is close.
这也是为什么我在牛熊尺度上,或者我喜欢称之为裸牛尺度上,我是 7.1。那是看涨的,因为我认为我们离衰退不远,而且这些实验室是醉酒的挥霍者。
This is why I also say on the bull bear scale or bare bull scale I like to call it. You I'm a 7.1. That's that's bullish because I don't think a we're close to recession and b these labs are drunk spenders.
直到他们 IPO,而且不仅仅是直到他们 IPO,直到他们 IPO 并且他们花光了所有的钱,他们的股票表现如此糟糕,以至于他们无法再筹集任何资金。只有到那时,那些公司才会停止花钱。
所以换句话说,他们会花掉所有能花的钱,直到他们无法再融资为止。然后他们会停止挥霍,然后我们才需要担心泡沫破裂。
And until they IPO, and not just until they IPO, until they IPO and they blow all their money and their stock has performed so poorly that somehow they can't raise any more money. Only until that point will those companies spend money. So in other words, they'll spend all the money they can up until the point that they can't finance anymore. Then they'll stop blowing money and then we have to worry about the bubble collapsing.
但在那之前,他们花钱如流水,以至于苹果发布Max Studios时会发生什么?哦,是的,你知道,我们要购买数万台用于AI代理工作。
But until then, they are spending like drunk sailors to the point where Apple announces Max Studios and what happens? Oh yeah, you know, we're going to buy uh tens of thousands for AI agentic uh work.
这真的非常令人印象深刻。我的意思是,也许 Teachable 应该买一台这样的 Mac Studio,确保他们的软件在我们有该死的优惠券到期时不会宕机,因为周五晚上他们的软件宕机了,有一群人给我们发邮件。
他们说,“嘿,Kevin,到底怎么回事?”然后当然,Teachable 13 小时后说,“嘿,我们很抱歉宕机了,我们很抱歉你所有的客户都说,‘天哪,兄弟。我想注册,但我不能。’”
所以我们把优惠券代码延长到周五。我认为给人们机会实际购买他们想要的东西是合理的。但无论如何,也许他们可以买一台 Mac Mini 而不是有这个问题。
This is really really impressive. I mean, like maybe Teachable should buy one of these Mac Studios and make sure their software doesn't go down when we have a freaking coupon expiration because on Friday night their software went down and there were a bunch of people who emailed us. They're like, "Hey, Kevin, what the hell hockey sticks?" And then of course, Teachable 13 hours later is like, "Hey, we're sorry that went down and we're sorry all your customers are like, "Dang, bro. I wanted to sign up, but I couldn't." Uh, and so we're extending the coupon code till Friday. I think that's that's reasonable to give folks uh the opportunity to actually buy what they wanted to. But anyway, maybe they could just buy a Mac Mini and not have this problem.
但看看这篇文章的其余部分,我们可以看到 The Information 一直在谈论苹果如何通过 Mac 在 AI 硬件上取得成功。这是一篇较旧的文章,他们只是谈到这些机器非常适合运行代理,即处理多步骤任务的 AI 软件,从编辑和
But looking at the rest of the article here, we could see the information has been talking about how Apple stumbled into AI hardware success with the Mac. This is an older piece where they just talked about how the machines are well suited to running agents, AI software that handles multi-step tasks from editing and
但这并不是真正推动一切的部分。真正推动一切的是他们购买数万台这种设备的报道,这就是我们必须考虑这可能如何影响苹果收入的地方。首先,我们已经看到他们的Mac部门增长速度在百分比上快于iPhone,收入达到100亿美元,但Mac的增长速度快了7个百分点。
M5 Ultra也是苹果首款四芯片架构,是他们最强大的芯片,人们迫不及待想要512版本。目前你只能订购256版本。所以这之前已经被讨论过,甚至在苹果的财报电话会议上,他们谈到了人们如何部署这些集群来本地运行前沿级模型。
But this wasn't really the piece that moved everything. it was this this piece about them buying tens of thousands of these is a gamecher and that's where we kind of have to look at how could this potentially affect Apple's you know revenue first we already see their Mac sector growing percentage-wise faster than the iPhone grew revenues $10 billion but the Mac grew at 7 percentage points faster the M5 Ultra is also Apple's first quad die architecture their most powerful chip And people cannot wait to get the uh uh 512 version. Right now you can only order up to the 256 version. So uh this has been talked about before like even in the Apple's earning in the Apple earnings calls they've talked about how people are deploying clusters of these to run frontier class models locally.
在我看来,OpenAI在苹果上花钱并没有被计入这只股票的价格。所以我认为内存股或内存状况已经变得如此普遍,以至于我们真的可以看到这些Mac数字出现一些实际增长。问题是我们有真正的限制问题。
目前Mac的增长速度估计只有约8%。所以即使你,我不知道,在我看来,你达到25%的Mac增长,你受到收入的限制,你并没有真正大幅推动底线,因为如果我拿103亿美元乘以当前估计的8%增长率,我得到的是,那是十亿,对吧,我得到8.2亿美元。
如果我按我的数字,管它呢,我们按50%来算。那是50亿。那是多出40亿美元。好吧。底线销售额将增加约4%。可以说,大约40亿美元进入底线。
Open AI blowing money on Apple was not priced into this stock in my opinion. And so I think the memory stock or or the memory situation has become so ubiquitous that we could really see some actual growth to these MAC numbers. The problem is we have real constraint issues. Growth rate estimates for MAC right now are only about 8%. So even if you I don't know in my opinion you go to 25% on Mac you're constrained by revenue and you're just not moving that bottom line that much because if I go 10.3 billion and I multiply that by the current estimate of 8% growth I get that's billion right I get uh $820 million if I go with my number of screw it let's go with 50%. That's 5 billion. That's four more billion dollar. Okay. The bottom line in sales would be about 4% more sales. Call it, you know, $4 billion coming to the bottom line.
所以,让我们快速看一下他们的利润表。让我们看看这里有什么。所以,这里我们有,让我看看。这些是流通股。这稍后会有用。如果我们看他们的净利润率,他们的净利润率是29.78除以109,29.78除以109.4。
我大约得到27.2,净额到底线乘以40亿美元。那基本上让我净额到底线减少约10亿。好吧。如果我拿另外10亿美元,1除以30,我的净额将增加约3.3%。所以,我的每股季度收益增加约7美分。
你知道,这并不多。如果我乘以一年,我得到约27美分的额外收益。好吧,27美分的额外收益。嗯,你知道,这对股票实际上有什么作用?不多,因为你受到内存限制。
So, let's go to their income statement really quick. And let's see what we've got here. So, here we have, let's see here. These are the shares outstanding. That'll be useful in a moment. If we look at their net margins, their net margins are 29.78 divided by 109 29.78 divided by 109.4. I'm at about 27.2 comes net to the bottom line times $4 billion. That brings me down about a billion to the bottom line essentially on net. Okay. If I take another billion bucks, 1 divided by 30, I'm going to increase my net by about 3.3%. So, my earnings per quarter go up like 7 cents. You know, it's not that much. If I multiply that by the year, I get to about 27 cents more of earnings. Okay, 27 cents more in earnings. Uh, you know, what does that actually do for the stock? Not much because you're memory constrained.
这可能就是为什么我们看到那些内存股比苹果涨得更多,因为27美分,让我们看看苹果目前的预测,苹果的市盈率与增长比率已经很高。你知道,它已经在那里了。
And that's probably why we saw those memory stocks move more than Apple because 27 cents on let's see what the current forecast is for Apple and the PEG ratio is already elevated for Apple. It's you know it's it's up there.
所以如果我拉出苹果的财务数据,我会去看8.85美元,27美分进入那会增加他们的收益。是的。你实际上只是增加了3%的每股收益。我认为更有趣的是你真的可以提高公司的潜在增长率。看,公司目前的增长率估计只有9%。
所以收益每年只会增长9%。那每年9%大约等于75。所以你增加了三分之一。
So if I pull Apple financials right now I'm going to go look at $8.85 27 into that increases their earnings. Yeah. 3% is all you're really increasing earnings per share. I think what's more interesting is you could really escalate the potential growth rate for the company. See, the growth rate for the company is only estimated at 9% right now. So earnings would only grow by 9% per year. That 9% per year works out to about 75. So you're increasing that by a third.
好吧,让我们更激进一点。让我们假设内存供应真正在27、28、29和30年开始上线,人们真的购买这些Mac Studios。苹果的定价权保持高位。定价权保持高位。内存成本下降。苹果获得更多利润率。
这就是玩法。玩法是如果你相信苹果能达到20%的每股收益增长,因为突然他们的AI起飞,人们购买Mac Studios来本地运行模型。去他的OpenAI,我们会用我们自己的中文开放权重把他们竞争掉,但我们将在Mac minis和Mac Studios上运行它们。
那么这就是玩法。20%的平均预期增长。我们拿他们当前的每股收益乘以大约24的市盈率与增长比率。可能这可能是一个425美元的股票。所以那就是你可能看到相对于我们今天所处的316的上行空间。
316除以425。这些提升的预期可能仅基于这样的预期就能导致股票上涨约35%。那将是我初步的分析。
Okay, let's get more aggressive. Let's assume memory supply really starts coming online in 27, 28, 29, and 30 and people actually pick up these Mac Studios. Pricing power stays high for Apple. Pricing power stays high. Memory costs come down. Apple takes more margin. This is the play. The play is if you believe that Apple can get to 20% EPS growth because all of a sudden their AI takes off, people are buying Mac Studios to run models locally. Screw Open AI, we'll compete them away with our own Chinese open weights, but we're going to run them on Mac minis and Mac Studios. Then here's the play. 20% average expected growth. We take their current EPS and we multiply it by about a 24 peg. probably this could be a $425 stock. So that's potentially where you could see that upside compared to the 316 where we sit today. 316 divided by 425. These boosted expectations uh could potentially lead the stock to run up about 35% just on expectations like that. That would be my initial analysis.
但这确实需要内存短缺不再是内存短缺,否则苹果将受到太大限制而无法看到这种情况发生。而且真正意味着的是,OpenAI将排在你前面,你多等几天才下Mac Studio订单。现在Sam Altman得到了它们。[笑声] 该死的,Sam。他又来了。
But it really requires the memory shortage like stopping being a memory shortage because otherwise Apple's going to be too constrained to see this happen. And really what it means is OpenAI is going to get in line in front of you who sat around and waited a couple extra days to place your Mac Studio order. And now Sam Olman's getting them all. [laughter] Damn it, Sam. He's back at it again.
但是,是的,我的意思是这发生在他们的新CEO上任的同时。所以,很多人都在想,"没错。这正在成为一个数据中心提供商,宝贝。加油,苹果。"嗯,所以这就是大玩法。而且,是的,这实际上可能显著重新评级股票,特别是如果他们能把更好的AI带到我们作为消费者实际使用的消费级硬件上。
而且他们可以开始供应前沿实验室,因为那些人花钱如流水。任何向那些人销售的人都会看到他们的利润率和每股收益比分析师预期上升得多。
But yeah, I mean this is happening at the same time that their new CEO is stepping in. So, a lot of people are like, "That's right. This is becoming a data center provider, baby. Let's go, Apple." Uh, and so that's the big play here. And yeah, that could actually meaningfully rerate the stock, especially if they could bring better AI to consumer grade hardware that we actually use as consumers. And they could start supplying the Frontier Labs because those people spend like drunk sellers. And anybody that is selling to those is just going to see their margin and their earnings per share go up way more than analyst expectations.
所以,就个人而言,我不能对苹果持悲观态度。现在,我真的不想在这些水平上买入苹果,而且我认为外面有很多真正有利可图的投资机会,所以资金有限,但我肯定不会做空苹果。
So, personally, I'm I can't be bearish Apple on this. Now, I don't really want to pay these levels for Apple, and I think there are a lot of really juicy plays out there, so there's a limited amount of money to go around, but I certainly would not be short Apple.
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