苹果公司(AAPL)相对于历史估值偏高(33倍对比24倍),且面临产品发布活动带来的短期下行风险,尽管在新领导层下长期战略转变积极。
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英伟达、苹果、Alphabet 和微软承压,拖累市场,即便纳斯达克 100 指数接近持平。但我想聚焦苹果,因为它是今天“由内而外”环节的主题。让我们深入苹果内部,并期待今天的“惊喜与闪耀”活动。
Nvidia, Apple, Alphabet, and Microsoft are under pressure, weighing down the market even as the Nasdaq 100 nears breakeven. But I want to focus on Apple, as it is the subject of today's "Inside Out" segment. Let's take a look inside Apple and anticipate today's "surprise and shine" event.
我们将了解更多关于苹果将发布的内容。但请注意,你必须意识到市场中有时会发生泄密,因此我们预期 iPhone 18 Pro、Pro Max 版本以及折叠屏手机“Ultra”将发布什么。
在手表、AirPods 等可穿戴设备中也有新技术。
We will learn more about what Apple will reveal. But listen, you have to realize that leaks sometimes happen in the market , so we're expecting what will be released from the iPhone 18 Pro, the Pro Max version, and the foldable phone, "Ultra". There is new technology in wearable devices such as watches, AirPods, and others.
所以这应该是美好的一天,尤其是考虑到新 CEO John Ternos 上任以来不超过 8 或 9 天。这极其令人兴奋。
So it should be a good day, especially since we are talking about a period of no more than 8 or 9 days since the new CEO, John Ternos, took office. This is extremely exciting.
这正是我想问你的,Josh,那就是近十年来,或者更久一点,我们第一次看着苹果并思考:“下一步是什么?”如你所知,公司有一位新领导者掌舵,他的角色可能与 Tim Cook 为这家公司扮演的角色大不相同。
That's exactly what I was going to ask you, Josh, which is that for the first time in almost a decade, or a little more , we're looking at Apple and wondering, "What's next?" As you know, we have a new leader at the helm of the company, and his role may be quite different from what Tim Cook played for this company.
根据你的评估,我知道才过了一两周,不可能确定,但你对 Ternos 以及他可能带领苹果走向的方向,总体感觉如何?
Based on your assessment, and I know it's only been a week or two and it's impossible to be certain, but what is your general feeling about Ternos and the direction it might take Apple in ?
听着,Ternos 在这家公司已经很久了,将近 25 年。他在 Steve Jobs 时代就在那里,并参与了向 Tim Cook 的过渡。Tim Cook 被认为是他在这个领域最重要的导师之一,我们不要忘记 Tim Cook 仍然非常活跃于这些业务,所以他并没有完全放弃控制权。
Listen, Ternos has been with this company for a very long time, almost 25 years. He was there during Steve Jobs' time and was part of the transition to Tim Cook. Tim Cook is considered one of his most important mentors in this field, and we must not forget that Tim Cook is still very active in these businesses, so he has not completely relinquished control .
但关于这次转型,我喜欢的是这一点。这是一个 Tim Cook 作为供应链和运营专家的场景。别误会,他作为 CEO 非常成功,为股东创造了巨大价值。但现在我们转向一个产品人和硬件工程师。
But here's what I like about this transformation. This is a scenario in which Tim Cook appears as an expert in supply chains and operations. Don't misunderstand me, he was extremely successful as a CEO and created tremendous value for shareholders. Um, but now we move on to someone who is a product man and hardware engineer.
所以,我认为这表明某些东西减少了对人工智能的关注,而这让苹果界的许多人担忧,并更侧重于坚持我们的根基,即我们采取的硬件路线。
So, I think this indicates something that reduces the focus on artificial intelligence that worries many in the Apple world, and focuses more on sticking to our foundation, which is the hardware approach we take.
所以,期待诸如生物集成之类的东西。啊,我之前在你其他段落中提到过,就是血糖监测。他们甚至正在洽谈收购一家名为 Sonera Magnetics 的公司,该公司拥有基于微芯片的大脑技术,实际上可以审查健康、情绪和认知等方面。
So, look forward to things like biointegration. Ah, and I mentioned this before in one of your other paragraphs, which is, you know, blood sugar monitoring . They are even working on an acquisition deal for a company called Sonera Magnetics, which owns microchip-based brain technology that can actually review things like health, emotions, and cognition.
所以我真的认为这是苹果前进的方向。当然,后台会有一些人工智能需求,但那会是他们未来主要的赌注吗?任何时候都不是这样,而且我认为在他们继续前进的过程中也不需要如此。
So I really think this is the direction Apple is heading. Of course, there will be some AI needs in the background , but will that be their primary bet going forward? It really wasn't like that at any time, and I don't think it needs to be while they continue.
Josh,当我们把这些联系起来,一切都说得通,不是吗?似乎所有大公司都在竞赛,试图在研发支出上超越彼此。他们没有问这样的问题:“我们将如何向消费者交付这项技术?”苹果似乎说了:“好吧,那我们来做。”
我们将成为你的设备。国家,但尽管如此,他们肯定会将其整合到服务中,至于他们会将其外包给像 Anthropic 这样的公司,还是内部构建,仍有待观察。
Josh, as we connect these things, it all makes perfect sense, does n't it? It seems that all major companies are racing and trying to outdo each other in spending on research and development. They didn't ask a question like, "How will we deliver this technology to the consumer?" Apple seems to have said, "Okay, we'll do it then." " We will be your devices." Nations, but nevertheless, they will certainly integrate this into services, and whether they will outsource this to companies like Anthropic or build it internally, is still to be seen .
但他们还有其他事情要处理,那些与供应链有关。我们知道内存成本飙升。关税是讨论的话题,是否将制造本地化也是讨论的话题。这会是未来两年最大的问题吗?在较小程度上,苹果将如何在人工智能上支出,而在更大程度上,他们如何在这个波动的制造成本环境中维持利润率?
But they have other things to manage , and those relate to the supply chain. We know that memory costs have skyrocketed. The tariffs were a subject of discussion, and whether they would move manufacturing locally was also a subject of discussion. Will this be the biggest question now in the next two years? To a lesser extent, how will Apple spend on artificial intelligence, and to a greater extent, how will they maintain their profit margins in this volatile manufacturing cost environment?
是的,很好。因为这是我认为每家公司都会考虑的事情之一,但你也必须意识到这是 Tim Cook 的专长。因此,我认为他会继续关注此事。
Yes, great. Because it's one of those things that I think every company thinks about, but you also have to realize that this is Tim Cook's specialty. Therefore, I think he will continue to focus on this matter.
当然,地缘政治问题和风险在此事中起作用。中国长期以来一直是苹果的主要供应商,但它已经开始实现来源多元化。所以现在你看到很多生产来自印度,而且实际上越来越多地遍布全球,以确保不存在单一障碍阻碍苹果作为一个组织继续给予的能力,而这正在进行中。
这是他们长期以来一直关注的事情,而且他们已经有该领域的专家在着手解决。
Certainly, there are geopolitical issues and risks that play a role in this matter. China has long been a major supplier to Apple, but it has already begun to diversify its sources. So now you see a lot of production coming from India , and it is actually spreading more and more around the world to ensure that there is not a single obstacle to Apple's ability to continue to give as an organization, and that is in the works . It is something they have been paying attention to for a very long time, and they already have experts in this field working on addressing it.
这里要提到的最后一点是,你不能忘记 Tim Cook 的有效作用,不仅在一点政治游说方面,而且在从特朗普政府获得临时关税豁免方面,这些豁免仍然有效,这再次表明他们在这方面知道自己在做什么。
One last thing to mention here is that you cannot forget Tim Cook’s effective role, not only in a little political lobbying, but also in getting temporary tariff exemptions from the Trump administration, which are still in place, which is another indication that they know what they are doing in this regard.
是的,现在似乎比财报公布前更高,这似乎是一个潜在的市场驱动因素。但从历史上看,这种依赖“买谣言,卖新闻”的事件风险,通常在新产品发布时发生。我们通常会看到下跌,但该股仍仅比那些创纪录水平低 7%。所以,我们处于高位。
Yes, it appears to be higher now than it was before the earnings announcement, and this seems to be a potential market driver. But historically, this type of event risk, which relies on "buying the rumor and selling the news," often occurs when new products are launched. We usually see a decline , but the stock is still only 7% below those record levels. So, we are at high levels.
基于期货的估值约为市盈率 33 倍,对吧?与历史 10 年平均约 24 倍市盈率相比。评级很高,但他们过去几个季度的利润非常好。所以,考虑到这一点。
Futures-based valuations are about 33 times earnings, right? Compared to the historical 10-year average of approximately 24 times the earnings. The ratings are high, but their profits in the last few quarters have been very good. So, take that into consideration.
折叠屏手机预计很快发布。基于内存芯片和组件价格上涨,新手机的成本会是多少?这会对销售产生什么影响?所以,你看了一个被动(间接)策略,对吧?你仍然可以在这里采取特定方法,Alex,而不必激进。
我看了一些对我的下行趋势中性(neutral)的东西。如果股价下跌,甚至股价小幅上涨,你仍然有安全边际,然后才开始产生亏损。这笔交易在 9 月期权中,到期日为 9 月 18 日。
也就是说,距离到期日还有 9 天。所以,你在这笔交易中给自己留了一点时间。我们将在价外 322.5 卖出看涨期权,为了限制风险,我们将在 332.5 买入看涨期权。所以,这是一个 10 美元看涨价差的垂直卖出订单,范围介于中性和看跌之间。
你将收到大约 2.30 美元的贷方余额。这是早些时候的交易价格。可能会略低于此。但你收到的贷方金额就是你能赚到的,不是吗?如果你能赚 230 美元,风险为 770 美元,风险大于回报,但在这类交易中你有更大的成功机会。
卖出的 322.5 看跌期权在到期时处于价外的概率为 72%。这里的想法是你卖出这个期权,如果它最终一文不值,你就保留你收取的贷方金额。你可以将其作为投机交易,或者如果你是苹果的长期股东,这也可以作为对冲工具。
但你在利用那些高隐含波动率水平,Alex,而且你有 3.5% 到 4% 的安全边际,直到大约 324.80 的盈亏平衡点。
The foldable phone is expected to be released soon. What will the cost of the new phones be based on the increased prices of memory chips and components? What kind of impact will this have on sales? So, you looked at a passive (indirect) strategy, right? You can still take a specific approach here, Alex, without being aggressive. I looked at something neutral towards my downward trend. If the stock price declines, or even if the stock price rises slightly, you will still have a safety margin before you start incurring losses. This deal is in September options which expire on September 18. That is, 9 days remain until the expiry date. So, you're giving yourself a little time in this deal. We will sell a call option outside the price range at 322.5, and to limit the risk, we will buy a call option at 332.5. So, it is a vertical sell order for a $10 call option, and it ranges between neutral and bearish. You will receive a credit balance of approximately $2.30 . This is the price at which it was trading earlier. It might be slightly less than that. But the credit you receive is what you can earn, isn't it? If you can earn $230 with a risk of $770, the risk is greater than the reward, but you have a better chance of success in this type of trade. There is a 72% probability that the put option sold at 322.5 will be out of price range at expiry. The idea here is that you sell this option, and if it ends up being worthless, you keep the credit you collected. You can do this as a speculative trade, or if you are a long- term shareholder in Apple, this can also serve as a hedging tool. But you are benefiting from those high implied volatility levels, Alex, and you have a safety margin of 3.5% to 4% up to the breakeven point at around 324.80.
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