预计AVGO的AI半导体收入将在2027财年达到约1150亿美元,并在2028财年达到约2300亿美元,基于已锁定的供应和强劲的客户需求。
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欢迎参加博通公司2026财年第三季度业绩电话会议。博通在收盘后发布了新闻稿和财务报表,详细说明了2026财年第三季度的财务业绩。
Welcome to the Broadcom Inc. third quarter 2026 results conference call. Broadcom distributed a press release and financial statements after the market closed detailing our financial performance for the third quarter of fiscal year 2026.
本季度表现卓越,收入、营业收入和自由现金流均创下历史新高。推动这一增长的是我们第三季度的人工智能半导体收入,同比增长221%,环比增长54%。
We have had an exceptional quarter, with revenue, operating income and free cash flow all exceeding previous records. The driving force behind this was our AI semiconductor revenue in the third quarter, which grew by 221%. On an annual basis and with a 54% increase on a quarterly basis.
这使得我们的合并收入达到296亿美元,同比增长86%。营业收入同比增长更快,达到92%,营业利润率达到创纪录的68%,反映了经营杠杆的强劲。第三季度的需求极高,而我们仍处于起步阶段。
This has resulted in our consolidated revenues reaching 29.6 billion, an increase of 86% year-on-year. Operating income grew at a faster rate of 92% year-on-year, with the operating margin reaching a record high of 68% of revenue, reflecting the strength of operating leverage. Demand in the third quarter was extremely high, and we are still only at the beginning.
我们的六大XPU客户正在加速采用定制加速器,人工智能半导体收入同比增长超过两倍,达到167亿美元。本季度,我们向Entropic和谷歌批量供应了Ironwood TPU V7第七版。
Our six XPU customers are accelerating the adoption of custom accelerators, and AI semiconductor revenues have more than tripled year-over-year to $16.7 billion. During the quarter, we supplied Ironwood TPU V7 Version 7 in bulk to both Entropic and Google.
同时,我们已开始向谷歌批量出货下一代TPU 8i版本。与Ironwood相比,这一新一代TPU设计拥有更多的内存和带宽。
Meanwhile, we have begun production shipments of the next-generation TPU version 8i for Google. This new generation TPU is designed with more memory and bandwidth compared to Ironwood.
由于“Ironwood”针对推理工作负载进行了优化,其性能可与“Vera Rubin”图形处理单元相媲美,甚至超越。
As "Ironwood" has been optimized for inference workloads, its performance rivals or even surpasses that of the "Vera Rubin" graphics processing unit.
为了进一步强调开发这些复杂加速器的重大技术挑战,博通现已开始出货TPU 8i,早于联发科的发布,而联发科实际上更早开始。
To further emphasize the major technical challenges of developing these complex accelerators, Broadcom has now started shipping the TPU 8i ahead of MediaTek's release, which actually began earlier.
在第三季度,我们还出货了OpenAI的第一代定制加速器Jalapeno,其在推理工作负载方面优于Grace Blackwell GPU。
In the third quarter, we also shipped Jalapeno, the first generation of custom accelerators from OpenAI, which outperforms the Grace Blackwell GPU for inference workloads.
总体而言,我们第三季度的XPU出货量同比增长超过三倍半,占本季度AI收入的73%。我们来自AI网络的收入同比增长超过两倍半,这一强劲势头延续至第四季度。
Overall, our shipments of XPUs for the third quarter increased by more than three and a half times year over year, and accounted for 73% of AI revenue during the quarter. Our revenue from AI networks has increased by more than two and a half times year-over-year, and this strong momentum continues into the fourth quarter.
本季度,我们预计将加快向Entropic出货Ironwood。
During this quarter, we expect to accelerate Ironwood's shipments to Entropic.
我们还预计向谷歌大量增加TPU 8i版本的出货量。向“OpenAI”出货“Jalapeno”将继续。至于Meta,我们预计其定制NTIA加速器将开始量产出货,该加速器针对大规模推理和推荐进行了优化。
We also expect increased shipments of TPU units version 8i to Google in large sizes. Shipments of "Jalapeno" to "OpenAI" will continue. As for Meta, we anticipate production shipments of their custom NTIA accelerator, which is optimized for inference and recommendations at scale.
在第四季度,我们预计XPU和AI网络的收入将同比增长两倍。我们预计这些部署将推动我们第四季度的AI收入达到217亿美元,同比增长236%。
In the fourth quarter, we expect revenues from both XPUs and AI networks to triple year-over-year. Together, we expect these deployments to drive our AI revenue in the fourth quarter to $21.7 billion, a 236% year-over-year increase.
基于第四季度的指引,我应该说,我们预计2026财年的AI收入将在580亿美元左右,同比增长186%,这高于我们之前560亿美元的指引。
Based on this fourth-quarter guidance, I should say that we expect our AI revenue for fiscal year 2026 to be around $58 billion, up 186% year-over-year, which is higher than our previous guidance of $56 billion.
我们继续看到客户对XPU单元的需求呈指数级增长。我们相信,当今AI工作负载的大部分计算需求来自这一小部分开发尖端、领先模型的群体,我们预计他们对计算基础设施的需求将在2027年和2028年进一步增加。
We continue to see exponential growth in demand from our customers for XPU units. We believe that the vast majority of computing demand for AI workloads today stems from this concentrated group developing cutting-edge, leading-edge models, and we expect their need for computing infrastructure to increase even further in 2027 and 2028.
他们都转向XPU,以获得卓越的性能、成本和功耗。现在让我告诉你们他们每一个人的历程,我们每一位客户大规模使用XPU来驱动他们世界领先的模型和工作负载的历程。
They are all moving towards XPUs to achieve superior performance, cost, and power. Let me now tell you about the journey of each one of them, the journey of each of our customers towards using XPUs on a large scale to power their world-leading models and workloads.
我们与谷歌的联系从未如此紧密。最近,一项长期协议进一步巩固了这一点,该协议旨在开发和供应未来几代TPU模块和AI网络。
Our connection to Google has never been stronger. This has recently been reinforced by a long-term agreement to develop and supply future generations of TPU modules and AI networks.
根据这项协议,我们计划在未来几年内每年交付价值数百亿美元的TPU单元。我们预计,2028年和2029年需求的增长将由我们今天与谷歌共同开发的更先进的TPU模块的连续几代来满足。
Under this agreement, we plan to deliver tens of billions of dollars worth of TPU units annually over the next few years. We expect this increased demand in 2028 and 2029 to be met by successive generations of more sophisticated TPU modules that we are developing today with Google.
我们与谷歌的合作将继续,因为我们在半导体设计方面拥有最强大的知识产权组合,包括行业领先的研究、芯片互连、先进的HPM和SRAMM集成,以及卓越的先进封装。
Our partnership with Google will continue because we have the strongest intellectual property portfolio in semiconductor design, including industry-leading studies, chip interconnection, advanced HPM and SRAMM integration, and simply superior, advanced packaging.
首先,我们一直——或者更确切地说,我应该说是始终如一地——实现了最快的TPU模块上市时间,从产品定义阶段到生产,无需修改。
First and foremost, we have consistently – or rather, I should say consistently – delivered the fastest time to bring TPU modules to market, from the product definition stage to production without the need for modifications.
我们相信,这些是非常深的障碍,任何竞争对手都难以克服。接下来是Entropic。我们从2026年部署的1吉瓦“Iron Wood”开始。
We believe that these are very deep obstacles that would be difficult for any competitor to overcome. Moving on to Entropic. We're starting with 1 GW of "Iron Wood" that we're deploying in 2026.
我们预计Entropic将在2027年额外部署5吉瓦的TPU 8i版本。在2028年,我们有一个清晰的愿景,即额外交付10吉瓦,即使我们预计谷歌的业务将与我们一同增长。
We expect Entropic to deploy an additional 5 GW of the TPU version 8i in 2027. And in 2028, we have a clear vision to deliver an additional 10 GW, even as we anticipate Google's business growing with us.
Entropic有望在2027年成为我们最大的XPU客户,并将在2028年保持这一地位。对于OpenAI,Jalapeno有望在2027年按计划部署1.3吉瓦。
Entropic is on track to become our largest XPU customer in 2027, and will maintain that position in 2028. For OpenAI, Jalapeno is on track for its planned 1.3 GW deployment in 2027.
与OpenAI合作,我们正处于开发Jalapeno之后下一代XPU的后期阶段,该产品即将推出。到2028年,我们有一个清晰的愿景,即在OpenAI部署超过5吉瓦的Jalapeño和下一代XPU,这将使OpenAI成为我们的第二大XPU客户。
In collaboration with OpenAI, we are in an advanced stage of developing the next generation of XPUs beyond Jalapeno, which is nearing launch. In 2028, we have a clear vision to deploy over 5 GW of Jalapeño and next-generation XPUs at OpenAI, which will make OpenAI our second-largest XPU customer.
此外,我们正在与OpenAI合作开发他们的第三代XPU单元。
In addition, we are working on developing the third generation of their XPU units in collaboration with OpenAI.
正如OpenAI上周宣布的,Jalapeno在每瓦性能、响应时间、吞吐量和功耗方面优于Grace Blackwell Ultra,并且在运行OpenAI任务时实际上与Rubin GPU相当。
As OpenAI announced last week, the Jalapeno outperforms the Grace Blackwell Ultra in terms of performance per watt, response time, throughput, and power consumption, and is actually comparable to Rubin GPUs in running OpenAI tasks.
这里的教训是,当你为你的大型语言模型(LLM)任务开发定制和优化的芯片时,你将胜过任何GPU。例如TPU单元。Jalapeño证明了它也能够运行其他旗舰模型,而且你可以以GPU一半的成本做到这一切。
The lesson here is that when you develop a custom-designed and optimized chip for your large language model (LLM) tasks, you will outperform any GPU. Such as TPU units. The Jalapeño proves that it is also capable of running other flagship models, and you can do all this at half the cost of a GPU.
我们与Meta合作提供多代MTIA XPU的计划仍在进行中。从现在到2027年底,我们将向Meta Inc.交付三代MTIA加速器。
Our partnership with Meta to provide multiple generations of MTIA XPUs remains on track. From now until the end of 2027, we will be delivering three generations of MTIA accelerators to Meta Inc.
在这三代产品中,我们有一个清晰的愿景,即到2028年部署3吉瓦。我们的人工智能内容,如你所知,不仅仅局限于XPU。我们是人工智能网络的先驱,我们继续增强我们在垂直和水平扩展的网络转型方面的优势。
Across these three generations, we have a clear vision to deploy 3 gigawatts by 2028. Our AI content, as you know, goes beyond just XPUs. We are pioneers in AI networks, and we continue to enhance our superiority in transforming networks for vertical and horizontal expansion.
我们率先将Tomahawk 6 100Tbps交换机推向市场,并且刚刚生产了Tomahawk 7,这是业界首款用于内部扩展的200Tbps以太网交换机。
We were the first to bring the Tomahawk 6 100Tbps switch to market, and we have just produced the Tomahawk 7, the industry's first 200Tbps Ethernet switch for internal expansion.
我们在每一代PCI Express转换中继续保持领先。我们现在是先进数字光信号处理器的先驱,并且正在迅速扩展我们的能力和市场地位,成为EML、Vixels和CW激光光学相干技术的领导者。
We continue to lead in every generation of PCI Express conversion. We are now pioneers in advanced digital optical signal processors, and are rapidly expanding our capabilities and market position as leaders in EML, Vixels, and CW laser optical coherence technologies.
简而言之,我们继续大力投资,以提供最广泛、最先进的人工智能技术组合。事实上,我们的人工智能网络收入预计在未来几年将以与数据处理单元(XPU)相同的速度增长。
In short, we continue to invest heavily to provide the broadest and most advanced portfolio of AI technologies. In fact, our AI network revenues are expected to grow at the same rate as data processing units (XPUs) over the next few years.
反映我们与这一关键大型语言模型客户群体的出色进展,以下是我们的人工智能半导体收入预测。到2027年,我们已确保供应,使人工智能收入再次翻倍,达到约1150亿美元。
Reflecting our excellent progress with this key group of large language model customers, here are our AI semiconductor revenue forecasts. In 2027, we have secured the supply to double AI revenues again to approximately $115 billion.
我们的需求实际上超过了这些预期,我们将努力在2028年改善供应。
Our demand actually exceeds these expectations and we will work to improve supply in 2028.
我们预计增长轨迹将继续。我们对2028财年人工智能半导体收入增长有一个清晰的愿景,即再次翻倍至2300亿美元。
We expect the growth trajectory to continue. We have a clear vision for AI semiconductor revenue growth for fiscal year 2028 to double again to $230 billion.
在这里,我们也已确保供应以满足这些预期。这些到2028年的AI收入指引是为了展示我们的增长轨迹而提供的。对计算的需求仍然非常强劲。
And here again, we have secured supplies to meet these expectations. These AI revenue guidance through 2028 were provided to illustrate our growth trajectory. Demand for computing remains extremely strong.
因此,我必须说,我们非常有把握超越38。现在转向非AI半导体,收入达到42亿美元,同比增长5%,与上一季度相比保持稳定。
As a result, I must say that we are very well on track to surpass 38. Now moving to non-AI semiconductors, revenues reached $4.2 billion, up 5% year-over-year and stable compared to the previous quarter.
宽带和服务器存储收入均有所增长,但部分被无线领域的下滑所抵消。在第四季度,我们预计非AI半导体收入将在43亿美元左右,较上一季度再增长5%。
Broadband and server storage revenues both increased, which was partially offset by a decline in the wireless sector. In the fourth quarter, we expect non-AI semiconductor revenues to be around $4.3 billion. With another 5% increase compared to the previous quarter.
谈到基础设施软件,第三季度收入为88亿美元,同比增长29%,我们保持了15%的年度经常性收入同比增长率。
Speaking of infrastructure software, third-quarter revenue was $8.8 billion, up 29% year-over-year, and we maintained an annualized recurring revenue growth rate of 15% year-over-year.
对于第四季度,我们预计基础设施软件收入将稳定在87亿美元左右。我们已宣布VMware的AI私有云,为企业提供了一个安全且经济高效的平台,以便在其现有应用旁边构建和运行AI。
For the fourth quarter, we expect infrastructure software revenue to stabilize at around $8.7 billion. We have announced VMware's AI private cloud, which gives businesses a secure and cost-effective platform to build and run AI alongside their existing applications.
它结合了AI基础设施、安全与合规性,以及用于构建和运行可信AI代理的工具,同时保护企业数据。VCF还使客户更容易将工作负载从公共云迁移到私有云,在那里他们可以获得更大的控制权并显著改善基础设施的经济性。
It combines AI infrastructure, security and compliance, and tools for building and running trusted AI agents, all while protecting enterprise data. VCF also makes it easier for customers to move workloads from the public cloud to the private cloud, where they can gain greater control and significantly improve infrastructure economics.
企业对人工智能的采用实际上为我们的基础设施软件业务开辟了一个新的机会。
Enterprise adoption of artificial intelligence actually opens up a new opportunity for our infrastructure software business.
简而言之,就本季度所有相关事项而言,收入为348亿美元,同比增长93%。我们预计第四季度AI收入将达到217亿美元,同比增长236%,我们预计营业利润率约为收入的66%。
So, in short, for everything related to the quarter, $34.8 billion, an increase of 93% year-over-year. We expect AI revenues in the fourth quarter to reach $21.7 billion, a 236% year-over-year increase, and we expect the operating margin to be around 66% of revenues.
本季度合并收入达到创纪录的296亿美元,同比增长86%。本季度毛利率为收入的75%,较上一季度下降210个基点,因为AI半导体收入在我们总收入组合中占更大比例。这好于我们74%的指引。
Consolidated revenues reached a record high of $29.6 billion for the quarter, an increase of 86% year over year. Gross profit margin was 75% of revenue in the quarter, down 210 basis points from the previous quarter, as AI semiconductor revenue represented a larger proportion of our total revenue mix. This was better than our guidance of 74%.
第三季度营业收入达到创纪录的201亿美元,较去年增长92%。尽管由于收入组合导致毛利率下降,但营业利润率同比上升240个基点至67.9%。这得益于我们实现的巨大运营杠杆。
Third-quarter operating income reached a record high of $20.1 billion, up 92% from last year. Despite a decline in gross profit margin due to the revenue mix, the operating margin increased by 240 basis points year-on-year to 67.9%. This is thanks to the enormous operational leverage we achieve.
与此一致,第三季度非GAAP每股收益同比增长96%,达到3.32美元。首先从半导体部门说起,半导体解决方案收入达到创纪录的208亿美元,同比增长127%,占我们总收入的70%。
In line with this, non-GAAP earnings per share for the third quarter rose 96% year-over-year to $3.32. Starting with the semiconductor sector, semiconductor solutions revenues reached a record high of $20.8 billion, an increase of 127% year-over-year, and represented 70% of our total revenues.
AI半导体收入为167亿美元,占总收入的56%,高于第二季度的49%。
AI semiconductor revenues accounted for $16.7 billion, or 56% of total revenues, up from 49% in the second quarter.
半导体解决方案部门的毛利率约为76%。运营支出为12亿美元,反映了对研发的投资,运营支出占该部门收入的6%。营业利润率上升61%,同比增加440个基点,收入增长127%。这超过了运营支出的增长,后者同比增长22%。
Our gross profit margin for the semiconductor solutions sector reached approximately 76%. Operating expenses of $1.2 billion reflected investments in research and development, with operating expenses representing 6% of the sector's revenues. Operating margin rose by 61%, an increase of 440 basis points year-on-year, with revenues growing by 127%. This exceeded the growth in operating expenses, which rose by 22% year-on-year.
接下来是基础设施软件,收入增至88亿美元,同比增长29%,占我们总收入的30%。本季度基础设施软件的毛利率达到94%,运营支出超过9亿美元。
Moving on to infrastructure software, revenues rose to $8.8 billion, a 29% year-over-year increase, representing 30% of our total revenue. Gross profit margins for infrastructure software reached 94% during the quarter, and operating expenses exceeded $900 million.
第三季度软件的营业利润率同比增加650个基点,达到约84%。转向资产负债表,我们第三季度末持有240亿美元现金,而上一季度末为196亿美元,环比增加43亿美元。
The operating margin for software in the third quarter increased by 650 basis points year-on-year to approximately 84%. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the third quarter with $24 billion in cash compared to $19.6 billion in the previous quarter, an increase of $4.3 billion on a quarterly basis.
我们第三季度末持有45亿美元库存,以支持对半导体的强劲需求。转向现金流,本季度自由现金流达到创纪录的137亿美元,占收入的46%。本季度我们在资本支出上花费了5.32亿美元。
We ended the third quarter with $4.5 billion in inventory to support strong demand for semiconductors. Turning to cash flow, free cash flow in the quarter reached a record high of $13.7 billion, representing 46% of revenue. We spent $532 million on capital expenditures during the quarter.
通过在第三季度转向资本分配,我们基于每股65美分的季度股息,向股东支付了31亿美元的现金股息。在第三季度,我们还偿还了56亿美元的长期债务。
By switching to a capital distribution in the third quarter, we paid shareholders $3.1 billion in cash dividends based on a quarterly dividend of 65 cents per share. In the third quarter, we also repaid $5.6 billion of long-term debt.
季度结束后,我们额外支付了15亿美元的溢价债券,因为它们到期了。我们总额为596亿美元的固定利率债务的加权平均利率和剩余期限年数分别为4%和7.4年。
After the end of the quarter, we paid an additional $1.5 billion in premium bonds as they matured. The weighted average interest rate and number of years of maturity for our total fixed-rate debt of $59.6 billion are 4% and 7.4 years, respectively.
6月,我们与Apollo和Blackstone合作建立了AI XPV平台,目标是在2028年底前为OpenAI和Anthropic提供超过20吉瓦的计算基础设施。
In June, we established the AI XPV platform in partnership with Apollo and Blackstone to enable more than 20 GW of computing infrastructure for OpenAI and Anthropic by the end of 2028.
我们在6月完成了第一笔350亿美元的分期付款,以部署1吉瓦的产能给Anthropic,该产能已在实施中。虽然未来的芯片将包含为满足特定实验室和投资者需求而设计的独特功能,但我们的核心战略保持不变。
We closed the first $35 billion tranche in June to deploy 1 GW of capacity for Anthropic, which is already being implemented. While future chips will include unique features designed to meet the needs of specific labs and investors, our core strategy remains unchanged.
首先,我们正在帮助两个最重要的战略客户,即领先的AI实验室,弥合他们当前现金流与其业务所需的大额初始投资之间的差距。
First, we are enabling two of our most important strategic clients, leading AI labs, to bridge the gap between their current cash flow and the large initial investments required for their businesses.
我们的XPU能够以两倍于其基础设施成本的价格实现可持续且高成本效益的增长。其次,这个XPV平台使客户能够吸引投资,并在需求已有保障的情况下促进实施。
Our XPUs enable sustainable and cost-effective growth at twice the cost of their infrastructure. Secondly, this XPV platform enables customers to attract investments and facilitates implementation where demand is already guaranteed.
第三,我们根据当前的资本配置框架,从商业和财务角度审视任何战略性融资。通过XPV平台,我们与专业的外部金融合作伙伴合作,独立获取和融资资产,而不是由我们自己提供直接融资。
Third, we review any strategic financing from a commercial and financial perspective in line with our current capital allocation framework. Through the XPV platform, we partner with specialized external financial partners to independently secure and finance assets rather than providing direct financing ourselves.
在必要时,我们可能提供有限的残值担保,这些是有条件的承诺,我们认为风险较低,并得到这些系数强劲的盈利轨迹和基础资产可持续价值的支持。
Where necessary, we may offer limited residual value guarantees, which are conditional commitments that we consider to be low-risk, supported by a strong profitability trajectory for these coefficients and the sustainable value of the underlying assets.
展望未来,我们预测第四季度合并收入为348亿美元,同比增长93%我们预测第四季度合并收入为348亿美元,同比增长93%。
Turning to the outlook, our forecast for consolidated fourth-quarter revenue is $34.8 billion, a 93% our forecast for consolidated fourth-quarter revenue is $34.8 billion, a 93% year-over-year increase.
我们预计半导体收入将达到约261亿美元,同比增长136%。其中,我们预计第四季度AI相关半导体收入将达到217亿美元,同比增长超过236%。
We expect semiconductor revenues to reach approximately $26.1 billion, an increase of 136% year-over-year. As part of that, we expect AI-related semiconductor revenues to reach $21.7 billion in the fourth quarter. With an increase exceeding 236% year-on-year.
我们预计第四季度基础设施软件收入约为87亿美元,同比增长24%至25%。随着第四季度AI收入增长加速,我们预计合并毛利率约为73%,低于去年同期的78%。
We expect infrastructure software revenues in the fourth quarter to be around $8.7 billion, an increase of between 24% and 25% year over year. With AI revenue growth accelerating in the fourth quarter, we expect our consolidated gross profit margin to be around 73%, down from 78% a year ago.
正如我们之前讨论的,高内存含量的XPU占比增加反映了合并毛利率的下降。
As we discussed previously, this increasing mix of XPUs with high memory content reflects a decrease in the consolidated gross profit margin.
然而,我们预计第四季度营业利润率约为66%。与去年相比,这一水平保持稳定,因为我们强劲的收入增长带来了显著的运营节省。
However, we expect the operating profit margin in the fourth quarter to be around 66%. This is a stable level compared to last year because our strong revenue growth is driving significant operating savings.
由于全球最低税的影响以及与2025财年相比的收入地域组合,我们预计第四季度和2026财年的非GAAP税率约为16%。
We expect the non-GAAP tax rate for the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2026 to be around 16%, due to the impact of the global minimum tax and the geographical mix of income compared to fiscal year 2025.
我们预计第四季度非GAAP摊薄股数约为49.4亿股,不包括潜在股票回购的影响。第四季度,我们预计资本支出为14亿美元,用于投资增加半导体产能。
We expect the number of non-GAAP diluted shares for the fourth quarter to be around 4.94 billion shares, excluding the impact of potential share buybacks. In the fourth quarter, we expect capital expenditures of $1.4 billion as we invest in increasing semiconductor production capacity.
我们预计AI收入将在2027财年再次翻倍,达到约1150亿美元,并在2028财年再次翻倍,达到2300亿美元。
we expect AI revenues to double again to about $115 billion in fiscal year 2027, and double again in fiscal year 2028 to $230 billion.
我们提供这些AI收入预测是为了说明我们的增长轨迹,我们不打算每季度更新这些预测。
We provide these AI revenue projections to illustrate our growth trajectory, and we do not intend to update them on a quarterly basis.
您能谈谈涉及的供应、供应瓶颈是什么,以及如果解决这些问题,哪些变量可能推动这个数字上升?无论我告诉你们什么,你们总是报出更大的数字。我觉得这很有趣。我们非常谨慎,说实话,我们尽量保持低调。
所以,我们给出我们的预期,是的,需求……我们可以出货更大的数量,但有时我们心中会浮现的问题是:我们出货的芯片能否及时部署?这是我们做出这些预测时始终牢记的一点。
Can you talk about the supplies involved, what the supply bottlenecks are, and what variables might drive this number up if you could resolve them? No matter what I tell you, you keep posting bigger numbers. I find this funny. We are very careful, and to be honest, we try to be discreet. So, we give you our expectations, and yes, the demand...we can ship much larger quantities, but the question that sometimes crosses our minds is: Will the chips we ship be deployed in a timely manner? This is something we always keep in mind when making those predictions.
但我们的客户当然希望我们发运更多。然而,我们已经确保了供应,并且我们相信115这个数字是正确的。如果情况发生变化,我们确保更多供应的能力发生变化,我们当然会提高预期。但在这个阶段,这是我们最好的预期。
But our customers certainly want us to ship more. However, we have secured the supplies, and we believe that the number 115 is the correct number. If circumstances change and our ability to secure more supplies changes, we will of course raise expectations. But at this stage, this is our best expectation.
顺便提一下,同样的道理和思考方式也适用于2028年,当时我们给出了2300亿美元的预测。
Incidentally, the same thing, and the same way of thinking, applies to 2028 when we gave you a forecast of 230 billion.
我们相信这是真实的需求,基于可用的资源、到2028年我们的客户相关的数据中心和站点准备情况、我们拥有的规模,以及我们在先进芯片、基板和HBM内存方面的供应链相比。
We believe this is a genuine demand, based on what is available, what data centers and sites are ready by 2028 in relation to our customers, the size of what we have, and compared to the supply chain we have in advanced chips, substrates, and HBM memory.
所以,这些再次是经过精心构建的预期,我们相信我们有能力实现它们。你能谈谈基板、互连技术或“CoWoS”替代方案吗?你们是否决定使用新加坡的产能,这如何融入你们已经建立的供应格局?
So, these are once again carefully structured expectations, and we believe we are capable of achieving them. Can you talk about the substrates, interconnection technologies, or "CoWoS" alternatives? Have you decided to use Singapore's capacity, and how does that fit into the supply picture you have put in place?
嗯,我们将开始运营新加坡的堆叠工厂,顺便说一下。从2027财年开始,我相信这将解决我们供应瓶颈的主要部分。你提到的谷歌的数字,然后你说Anthropic有10吉瓦。他们……不是第一,对吧?10吉瓦只分配给Anthropic。
Well, we will start operating the Singapore pile factory, by the way. Starting from fiscal year 2027, I believe that will address a major part of our supply bottlenecks. The figure you mentioned for Google, then you said 10 gigawatts for Anthropic. Are they...not number one, are they? The 10 gigawatts are allocated to Anthropic only.
10吉瓦专门用于Anthropic。Hawk,你们的客户正在推动他们的XPU和GPU实现更高性能。网络的带宽也随之扩展,不是吗?你们的客户现在从每条路由100 Gbps转向每条路由200 Gbps。
从Tomahawk 5到Tomahawk 6。我们听说Tomahawk 6的增长率是你们所有转换系列中最快的,我们还听说你们几乎卖完了明年的所有Tomahawk 6库存。我不确定你们能否提供关于这方面的更新。
10 gigawatts are dedicated solely to Anthropic. Hawk, your customers are pushing their XPUs and GPUs towards higher performance. And the network's bandwidth expands accordingly, doesn't it? Your customers are now moving from 100 Gbps per route to 200 Gbps per route. From Tomahawk 5 to Tomahawk 6. We've heard that the Tomahawk 6's growth rate has been the fastest among all your conversion families, and we've also heard that you've sold almost your entire Tomahawk 6 inventory for next year. I'm not sure if you can provide us with an update on this.
也很高兴看到团队推出其下一代Tomahawk 7,具有200GB接口。使用XPU的领先模型客户:他们中有多少人使用Tomahawk网络进行横向扩展(scale-out)?你们能否也提供关于Tomahawk Ultra平台在纵向扩展(scale-up)方面采用情况的更新?
It's also good to see the team launching its next-generation Tomahawk 7 with a 200GB interface. Leading model customers using XPUs: How many of them use Tomahawk networks for horizontal scaling (scale-out)? And can you also provide us with an update on the adoption of the Tomahawk Ultra platform for vertical scaling (scale-up)?
你说得对。Tomahawk 6取得了巨大的成功。正如我提到的,它已经开始横向扩展。它有100GB和200GB两种版本。所以我们实际上有两个版本的Tomahawk 6。两者都非常成功,并且几乎部署在所有与我们合作构建XPU的主要云公司中,甚至那些不使用我们单元的公司也在其100GB和200GB版本中使用Tomahawk 6。
You are right. Tomahawk 6 has been a tremendous success. As I mentioned, it has already begun to expand horizontally. It is available in both 100GB and 200GB versions. So we actually have two versions of Tomahawk 6. Both are very successful and are deployed in almost all major cloud companies that build XPUs with us, and even those that do not use our units use Tomahawk 6 in both its 100GB and 200GB versions.
关于Tomahawk Ultra,我们在这里通过启用低延迟以太网的纵向扩展,在市场上进行了创新。我们也对这个设备的采用率感到惊讶,我们开始看到它从本季度和下一个2027财年开始在纵向扩展应用中得到部署。
With regard to the Tomahawk Ultra, we innovated ahead of the market here by enabling vertical expansion using low-latency Ethernet. We were also surprised by the adoption rate of this device, and we began to see it deployed starting this quarter and in the next fiscal year 2027 in vertical expansion applications.
为了澄清Charlie所说的,通过Tomahawk Ultra,我们现在首次在单个机柜内的GPU/XPU集群中实现纵向扩展,主要通过网络以太网。因为Tomahawk Ultra将以与以太网之前存在的任何东西相同的效率运行,并且在以太网上实现这种能力之前,特别是在损耗和延迟方面。
Just to clarify what Charlie is saying, with Tomahawk Ultra, we are now enabling vertical expansion within a GPU/XPU cluster in a single cabinet, primarily over an Ethernet network for the first time. Because Tomahawk Ultra will operate with the same efficiency as anything that existed before Ethernet, and before the ability to do so over Ethernet, especially with regard to loss and delay.
我只是想核实一下我的计算。如果我把2027年和2028年的吉瓦数加起来,我得到2027年大约10吉瓦,其中大约6吉瓦用于我的公司Anthropic和OpenAI,2028年大约20吉瓦,其中大约15吉瓦用于我的公司Anthropic和OpenAI。
我只想确保这是正确的,如果是这样,根据我对每吉瓦收入的计算,我发现每吉瓦在110亿到120亿之间。我的意思是,你们的竞争对手提到了接近40的数字,我想知道:这是我们应该考虑的关于你们内容的正确水平吗?
未来这应该如何发展,正如你提到的,随着更多代XPU单元的出现,它们具有更高的性能和更多的内存?这些数字的趋势是什么?所以,我的第一个问题是关于吉瓦的数量,第二个是关于内容。
I just wanted to double-check my calculations. If I add up the gigawatts for 2027 and 2028, I get approximately 10 for 2027, of which about 6 are for my companies Anthropic and OpenAI, and about 20 for 2028, of which about 15 are for my companies Anthropic and OpenAI. I just want to make sure that's correct, and if so, based on my calculations for revenue per gigawatt, I find it to be between 11 and 12 billion per gigawatt. I mean, your competitor mentioned a number close to 40, and I'm wondering: Is that the right level we should be thinking about regarding your content? And how should this be heading in the future, as you mentioned, with more generations of XPU units, which feature higher performance and more memory? What are those numbers trending towards? So, my first question is about the number of gigawatts, and the second is about the content.
是的,你可以计算我们指定的吉瓦数。不是所有人,因为我们专注于公平,有六个客户。其中四个将非常庞大,我们概述并审查他们部署XPU的历程。正如我所说,这是一个谷歌已经进行了10年的历程,其他像OpenAI进行了两三年,还有其他的进行了三年;他们每个人都以不同的方式做这件事,我们想带你们经历这个历程,更重要的是,这对他们在26、27和28年部署XPU意味着什么,所以我们把数字放在周围,你说得对,Stacey,如果你把吉瓦数加起来,我们展示的是他们前进的方向。
Yes, you can calculate the number of gigawatts that we specify. Not everyone, because we focus on being fair, with six clients. Four of them will simply be huge, and we outline and review with you their journey in deploying XPUs. As I said, it's a journey that Google has been undertaking for 10 years, others like OpenAI for two or three years, and others for three years; Each one of them does it differently, and we'd like to take you on that journey, and more importantly, what it means in their deployment of XPUs for the years 26, 27 and 28, so we're putting the numbers around, and you're right, Stacey, if you add up the gigawatts, we're showing the direction they're going.
当我们达到最终数字时,我们没有特别向你们提到的是实际部署的吉瓦数,因为部署不仅仅限于提供芯片。在芯片供应之前,数据中心基础设施必须完全准备好进行实际生产。我们在这里谈论的是财年。
我们要说的是,当我们收集吉瓦时,我们并不是声称在未来两年,2027年和2028年,30吉瓦将进入生产阶段,因此我们将发运它们。我们相信,保守估计,这个数字会略低一些。但我们看到的需求表明,如果他们能准备好一切,供应我们的产品,并发运那些包含芯片的机架,它将达到我们六个现有客户的30吉瓦。
What we did not mention to you specifically when we reached the final number is the number of gigawatts that will actually be deployed, because deployment is not limited to just providing chips. Before the chips can be supplied, the data center infrastructure must be fully ready for actual production. We are talking here about fiscal years. What we are saying is that when we collect the gigawatts, we are not claiming that over the next two years, 2027 and 2028, 30 gigawatts will enter the production phase and therefore we will ship them. We believe, with a conservative estimate, that the number will be somewhat lower. But we are seeing demand that suggests if they can get everything ready, supply our products, and ship those racks containing the chips, it will reach 30 gigawatts among our six current customers.
问题是,整个30吉瓦是否会在这两个财年内进入生产阶段?我们给你们一个估计,在27财年这些芯片价值1150亿美元,28财年再价值2300亿美元,据我所知,总计约3500亿美元。所以,另一种说法是,我们相信有非常高的信心。
我们将在未来两年内向这些客户发运价值3500亿美元的人工智能半导体。这是看待这个问题的最佳方式。这并不一定意味着30吉瓦必须在那段时间内完全部署。
The question is, will the entire 30 gigawatts enter the production phase within these two fiscal years? We are giving you an estimate of $115 billion worth of chips for these in fiscal year 27, and another $230 billion in fiscal year 28, which will total, as far as I know, about $350 billion. So, another way to say it is that we believe with a very high degree of confidence. That we will ship $350 billion worth of AI semiconductors to these customers in the next two years. This is the best way to look at it. This does not necessarily mean that the 30 gigawatts must have been fully deployed during that period.
接下来是你们下一个更有趣的问题,对吧?正如我所说,当你制造一个XPU处理单元时,它不仅在我们每个客户的大语言模型工作负载上表现良好,如果不更好的话。而且成本只有一半,实际上,不到一半。这完美地说明了我的观点。
Moving on to your next, more interesting question, right? As I said, when you make an XPU processing unit, it not only performs well, if not better, for the large language model workloads of each of our clients. It is also half the cost, and in fact, less than half the cost. This perfectly illustrates my point of view.
您能否进一步说明担保协议的最大预算外风险?上一季度显示,第一批的最大敞口约为290亿。这是否大致是未来几年Anthropic和OpenAI吉瓦规模的水平?您能否也提供更多关于残值及其相关风险的细节?
Can you shed more light on the maximum off-budget risk for guarantee agreements? Your last quarter showed that the first tranche had a maximum exposure of approximately 29 billion. Is this roughly the scale level for both Anthropic and OpenAI gigawatts over the next few years? Can you also add more details about the residual value and the risks associated with it?
听着,我们今天关于残值担保或保修协议没有任何要宣布的。因此,没有新的内容要补充。我之前提到的关于我们实际所做数字仍然是正确的。正如我在准备好的发言中提到的,我们将逐笔评估任何战略融资,并预计我们未来进行的任何融资都将具有独特特征,并将根据实验室和投资者的需求进行定制。
因此,我无法给您一个关于最大值或每笔融资具体情况的全面概述,但我们会在适当的时候告知您。我们今天没有任何要宣布的。
Listen, we have nothing to announce today regarding residual value guarantees or warranty agreements. Therefore, there is nothing new to add. The figures I mentioned about what we have actually done remain correct. As I mentioned in my prepared notes, we will evaluate any strategic financing on a deal-by-deal basis, and we expect that any financing we undertake in the future will have unique features and will be tailored to suit the needs of the laboratory and the investor. Therefore, I cannot give you a comprehensive overview of the maximum or what each will look like, but we will tell you in due course. We have nothing to announce today.
Amy,我只是想澄清一下,考虑到XPU组合和内存的高成本,对2027年和2028年毛利率的影响。然后,您提到Frontier Labs将是您最大的AI客户,尽管谷歌一直表示面临供应限制。
那么他们为什么不接受更多?在许多情况下,这些领先的实验室依赖其云服务提供商以及有时与Nvidia有关联的实体的土地、能源和基础设施。那么,他们使用硅片在多大程度上是他们自己的选择,而不是由云提供商或资金合作伙伴决定的?
我只是好奇,当他们的资金如此依赖于其他云服务提供商,而这些提供商在选择该特定设施的硅片时可能有不同看法时,是什么让您确信他们会在2027年或2028年将那个特定工作授予Broadcom?
Amy, I just wanted to clarify any impact on gross profit margins in 2027 and 2028 given this XPU mix and the high cost of memory. Then, you mentioned that Frontier Labs would be your biggest AI customers, even though Google continues to say it is facing supply constraints. So why don't they take more? In many cases, these leading labs rely on land, energy, and infrastructure from their cloud service providers, and sometimes entities affiliated with Nvidia. So to what extent is their use of silicon a choice of their own versus what is dictated by the cloud provider or funding partner? I'm just curious, what gives you the certainty that they'll award Broadcom that particular job in 2027 or 2028 when so much of their funding depends on other cloud service providers who may have a different view when it comes to choosing silicon for that particular facility?
我有两种方式来回答这个问题,并且有两点:不要忘记这些初创公司的增长率,我们谈论的是六个客户,我们正在创造这些金融工具。
I have two ways of answering that, and two points: Don't forget the growth rate of these startups, and we're talking about six clients and we're creating these financial instruments,
这使得投资于赋能这些人在经济上对Broadcom来说是合理的。
This makes investing in empowering these people economically logical for Broadcom.
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