Bloom Energy拥有强大的技术和改善的利润率,但对Oracle的严重依赖和其他集中风险使其成为短期交易而非长期基本面买入。
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南希·佩洛西的定期交易报告,这是一种花哨的说法,说她逢低买入,可能是她丈夫,但这不重要,因为他们刚刚花费了数百万美元购买Bloom Energy和Intel。
Nancy Pelosi's periodic transaction report, which is a fancy way of saying she bought the dip and it was probably her husband, but it doesn't matter because dang, they just spent millions of dollars buying Bloom Energy and Intel.
我看到至少价值15,000美元的股票购买。我看到行权价为100美元的看涨期权,所以一年后到期时是深度实值。他们在7月24日进行了这些购买,所以像往常一样,已经过去了2个月。哦,实际上不是,正好30天。距离交易正好30天,所以我们当然晚收到消息,但如果你记住一个月前发生了什么,你会记得那正是Leopold被Leo折叠的时候。谁知道南希·佩洛西有什么内幕信息,但这没关系,因为在24日,股票交易价格在183美元到218美元的高点之间。这正好在Bloom Energy目前交易价格205美元的行权范围内。
I see at least $15,000 worth of share purchases. I see call options that were purchased with a strike price of $100, so well in the money for a year out. They made these purchases on July 24th, so as usual, it's been 2 months. Oh, actually no, it's been exactly 30 days. It's been exactly 30 days since the transaction, so of course we get the news late, but if you keep in mind what was going on a month ago, you'll remember that that was exactly when Leopold was getting Leo folded. Who knows what kind of insider informa- info Nancy Pelosi had, but that's okay because on the 24th, the stock traded between $183 and a high of $218. That's literally in the strike range for where Bloom Energy is trading now at $205.
那么,这是笔好交易吗?你应该买这只股票吗?他们到底做什么?好吧,让我们保持简单,因为显然它从351美元的高点大幅下跌。从峰值下跌了61%。那么是什么推动了这一点?基本面?动量?答案是两者都有。
So, is it a good deal and should you buy the stock? What even the heck do they do? Okay, let's keep this really simple because obviously it is well down from its high of $351. That is a fall of 61% from peak in the value of this company. So, what drove that? Fundamentals? Momentum? The answer is both.
所以,关于Bloom Energy,事情是这样的。Bloom Energy是一家燃料电池供应商,用天然气作为燃料,然后通过化学方式转化为能量,所以这有点像点燃它,比如燃气发动机,但有点不同。
So, here's the thing about Bloom Energy. Bloom Energy is a fuel cell provider that gets fueled with natural gas and then chemically converts it to energy, so it's a little bit different than just like lighting it on fire, like a you know, a gas engine for example.
嗯,但Bloom Energy的迷人之处在于,他们过去的利润率非常差,而由于数据中心繁荣,他们的利润率正在飙升。当你查看他们的利润表时,现在确实很好。以前不是这样的。他们在21年、22年、23年、24年、25年都有负利润率。你懂的。但现在,看看这个。他们的收入增长了2.65倍,超过10亿美元。他们的毛利润大约在33%到35%左右。他们的产品毛利率实际上在37%左右,然后当然还有安装和其他一些低利润率的东西。他们现在给底线带来约18.5%的利润,在财报电话会议上,他们指导说可以给底线带来约21%,给顶线带来约34%。
Uh but what's fascinating about Bloom Energy is they've had really bad margins and because of this data center boom, their margins are blowing up. And when you look at their income statement, it's really good right now. Now, it didn't used to be. They had negative margins in '21, '22, '23, '24, '25. You get the idea. But now, look at this. Their revenue has 2.65x'd to over a billion dollars. Their gross profit is sitting at about 33 to 35-ish percent. They're They've literally got gross margins on their product that are like 37-ish percent, and then of course you've got like install and some of these other lower margin things. Uh they bring about 18.5% to the bottom line now, and in their earnings call they're guiding about 21% that they can bring to the bottom line, and about 34% that they can bring to the top.
那么,为什么全年毛利率达到34%很重要呢?嗯,因为这与苹果非常相似,这有点令人兴奋,因为你知道,苹果是一家利润率相当高的企业。我们知道他们的东西并不便宜。但如果你查看苹果的任何财务报表,你会发现他们的产品毛利率也在37%左右。现在,苹果与Bloom Energy不同的地方在于,苹果以约70%至75%的毛利率销售服务,而Bloom Energy没有。所以,苹果产品以约37%的毛利率销售,所以你知道,你卖出100美元的东西,37美元进入企业,他们可以用于研发、管理费用或广告等。然后他们缴税,然后得到净利润,对吧?他们从100美元中剩下37美元。这很棒,因为它不仅给你37美元,还让更多人注册iCloud订阅,或者你知道,他们为音乐或其他产品提供的任何软件订阅,或者只是包含在内。这对苹果来说是一个巨大的胜利,因为它的利润率非常高。另一方面,Bloom,你必须把它主要看作大部分是较高毛利率的制造方面。这很重要的原因是它限制了他们的净利润。我们真的不期望Bloom的净利润会超过25%,因为他们没有服务方面。他们仍然在制造成本高昂的东西。
Now, why does 34% on gross margin matter for the full year? Well, because that's really similar to Apple, which is kind of exciting because, you know, Apple's a pretty high margin business. We know their stuff isn't exactly the cheap for a pretty penny. But if you go to any Apple financial statements, you'll see that their products also sell for about a 37% gross margin. Now, the thing that's different about Apple that gives Apple a big premium is they sell services at about a 70 to 75% gross margin that Bloom Energy doesn't. So, the Apple products that are selling for about 37% margin, so you know, you sell $100 worth of stuff, $37 goes into the business that they can then spend on research and G&A or advertising or whatever. Then they pay taxes on it, then they get their net, right? They got $37 $37 out of a hundred left. That is great because it doesn't just give you the $37. It leads more people to sign up for subscriptions to iCloud or, you know, whatever the the life software that they have for music or the subscriptions for any of their other products. Or just included. That's a big W for Apple because it's really high margin. Bloom, on the other hand, you have to think of it as just mostly, the vast majority of it being the higher gross margin manufacturing side. The reason that's important is because it caps their net. We're really not expecting to see the net income for Bloom to really ever go beyond 25% because they don't have that services side. They're still making things that cost a lot of money.
这些燃料电池很棒,因为你在三到四个月内就能把它们建好,而数据中心旁边的天然气设施可能需要大约三到四年才能建好。所以,出现了巨大的热潮,就是用燃料电池来建设数据中心,这样我们就能更快地启动和运行,缩短数据中心的上线时间,这非常重要,因为猜猜Bloom Energy最大的风险是什么?他们的主要客户。所以,这是客户集中风险,我认为这是一个很大的危险信号。这并不是说我看空这家公司。我们稍后会讨论目标价,但他们确实存在严重的收入集中问题。他们上个季度收入的44%来自Oracle。而在过去六个月中,73%来自Oracle。
And these fuel cells are great because you can stand them up in three to four months, whereas, you know, a natural gas facility at a data center might take you somewhere around three to four years to stand up. So, there's been this huge boom in let's just use fuel cells to stand up our data centers so we can get up and running and lower our time to revenue on data centers, which is really important because guess the biggest risk for Bloom Energy? Their main customer. So, this is customer concentration risk, which I think is a really big red flag. That's not to say I'm bearish on the company. We'll talk about a price target in just a moment, but they have got serious revenue concentration. 44% of their Q1 or their last quarter's revenue came from Oracle. And in the last six months, 73% came from Oracle.
那么,谁在承担这些债务呢?是Bloom Energy,它现在因为Nancy Pelosi而获得了巨大的动能。盘中,它上涨了大约11%,仅仅是因为Nancy Pelosi的披露,正好在我的206线,这是一个斐波那契回撤线。也许我们能维持这个水平并重新突破,但你可以看到,自6月份以来,在Google和SpaceX的冲击之后,股价一直在下跌。为什么?可能是增长可见性。对这些公司来说,这总是非常重要的,我们试图预测增长。
Well, who's picking up that debt? It's Bloom Energy, which is now getting a big momentum boost because of Nancy Pelosi. Intraday, it's up like 11% just intraday on this Nancy Pelosi disclosure riding right here at my 206 line, which is a fib retracement line. Uh and maybe we'll be able to sustain that and break back up, but you could see since uh June, after the Google and SpaceX suckening, the stock has been falling. Why? It could be visibility into growth. And that's always what's really important about these companies is we try to forecast growth.
你看,苹果的增长不是很高,但很稳定。苹果的增长大约是9%,很稳定。这意味着他们目前的市盈率大约是3.7倍。在我看来,苹果目前实际上被高估了约40%,因为我喜欢把35倍的市盈率除以增长率,然后想,我不想为这样的增长支付那么多。现在,有希望CEO能帮助公司转型,推出更多产品和更多AI收入,但很多这种希望已经被定价了,对吧?另一方面,Bloom Energy,让我们看看对Bloom Energy的预测。
See, Apple's growth isn't that high, but it's stable. Apple's growth is like 9% stable. And that means they're trading for about a 3.7 PEG right now. In my opinion, Apple's actually about 40% overvalued right now because I like to combine, you know, a 35 PE ratio divided by the growth and go I don't want to pay that much for that growth. Now, there's hope that the CEO is going to help transition the company to more products and more AI revenues, but a lot of that hope is already priced in, all right? Bloom Energy on the other hand, let's look at the forecast for Bloom Energy.
所以,如果我想在上涨方面非常激进,给他们一个非常高的、接近软件级别的市盈率增长水平,我可以拿他们预测的每股收益2.55美元,乘以2.4倍的50%增长,得到306的目标价。但问题是,增长到50%会逐渐下降,尤其是当Oracle长期购买更少时。预计在4年内,3到4年内会下降到25%。所以,如果我以25%的增长乘以2.4倍再乘以他们今天的每股收益,我今天的公允价值实际上是153。所以在205,你知道,我们更接近这个,但我的上行空间是什么,对吧?我的上行空间是期望这能永远繁荣增长,但我真的很依赖Oracle。所以这意味着我需要扩展到不同的客户。我需要向Oracle销售更多。我不想押注Oracle。或者我需要提高利润率。利润率不错,但我们已经看到一些压力了,对吧?收入增长了2.6倍,产品成本增长了2.9倍。所以成本增长高于收入,他们说部分原因是他们不得不增加销售人员的股票薪酬,这在我看来表明他们的销售人员非常努力地争取这些销售和合同签署。如果我必须支付更多,而我无法提高价格或收入,那么这让我质疑这种收入的可持续性有多久。
So, if I want to go really aggressive on the upside and I give them a really juicy like closer to software level price to earnings growth level, I could take their forecast earnings per share of $2.55, give it a multiple of 2.4 * 50% growth, I get a 306 price target. But the problem is the growth that's going up to 50% is going to taper off, especially as Oracle buys fewer of these in the longer term. It's expected in 4 years, 3 and 4 years to taper down to 25%. And so if I run this at just 25% growth times a 2.4 multiple times their earnings per share today, my fair value today is actually 153. So at 205 you know, we're we're we're closer to this, but like what's my upside, right? My upside is expecting that this can keep booming and growing forever, but I'm really reliant on Oracle. So what that means is I need to expand to different customers. I need to sell to Oracle more. I don't want to bet on Oracle. Uh or I need my margins to go up. Margins they're good but we're already seeing some of the pressure here, right? Revenue's up 2.6 times and product costs are up 2.9x. So costs are up higher than revenue and they say part of that is because they had to pay an increase in stock-based compensation on their sales, which to me suggests that like their sales people are grinding really hard to get those sales and contracts signed. And if I got to pay more than I'm able to increase the prices or revenue, then it just sort of makes me question like how long and sustainable is that revenue?
所以,我不是说这是一笔糟糕的交易。我是说存在集中风险。其中有很多动能,公司正在增长利润率。我必须承认这一点。他们确实承认利润率波动很大。他们在这里说了。嘿,我们一直是负的。我们8年前上市。在那段时间里,我们从负到正。有很多变化,但我们对自己的总可寻址市场非常乐观。我们认为有巨大的顺风。我们将能够增加市场份额,获得更多客户。你知道,也许Oracle只是开始。他们还有一个关联方购买他们自己的产品。这是一个他们基本上与Brookfield Asset Management合作运营的基金。所以,在他们的一些集中风险中,你实际上会看到,“嘿,我们的一些销售流向了关联方实体。”那是他们的AI基金。他们的AI基金自然购买Bloom Energy的产品。但同样,在上个季度,这占他们收入的21%。所以他们自己的循环融资占收入的21%。Oracle在上个季度占44%。前一个季度,Oracle甚至更多,对吧?所以如果你失去循环部分,如果你失去Oracle,你就会失去我们看到的很多增长动能。现在,希望你能获得新客户,但这就是你在损益表上下的赌注。
So I'm not saying this is a bad deal. I'm saying there's concentration risk. Uh there's a lot of momentum in it and the company is growing margins. I got to give them that. They do acknowledge that margin swings a lot. They say it over here. Hey, we've been negative. We went public 8 years ago. In between that time we've swung from negative to positive. There's so much going on uh in terms of changing, but we're really bullish on our total addressable market. We think there are massive tailwinds. We're going to be able to increase market share, get more customers. You know, maybe Oracle is just the start. They also have a related party that buys their own products. This is a fund that they basically operate in partnership with Brookfield Asset Management. And so in some of their concentration risk, you'll actually see, "Hey, some of our sales went to a related party entity." That's their AI fund. And their AI fund naturally buys Bloom Energy products. But again, in the last quarter, that represented 21% of their revenue. So their own sort of circular financing was 21% of the revenue. Oracle was 44% in the last quarter. The quarter before that, Oracle was even more, right? So if you lose the circular part, if you lose Oracle, you lose a lot of that growth momentum that we're seeing. Now, hopefully you could just land new customers, but that's the bet that you're making on this income statement.
现在,现金流看起来不错。但现金流收益率有点低,好吗?我们大约有1%,不到1%的现金流收益率。Palantir也大约有1%的现金流收益率。这与软件股非常不同,软件股的现金流收益率可能在10%左右。一个例子可能是Salesforce。Salesforce是我们发送的买入提醒之一,价格大约在每股163美元。
Now, cash flow looks good. Cash flow yield a little low, though. Okay? We've got about a 1% less than 1% cash flow yield. Uh you've got Palantir is also about a 1% cash flow yield. Very different from a software stock that is going to be trading at uh you know, like a 10% cash flow yield. An example of which might be like Salesforce. Salesforce was one of the buy alerts that we sent at about $163 per share.
所以,让我们继续,看看他们的资产负债表。他们的资产负债表还不错。我们有26亿美元现金。我有8亿美元的账单要付。所以我的资产负债表相当不错。我有2.4的长期债务。不过我要说,这些长期债务主要是2030年的可转换负债,票息为0%。所以,他们并没有在债务中挣扎,基本上他们有一笔0%的贷款。这相当不错。
So uh let's just continue and uh look at a little bit of their balance sheet. So their balance sheet is decent. We've got $2.6 billion in cash. And I've got $800 million in bills to pay. So I'm pretty decent on the balance sheet. I do have 2.4 in long term. Though I will say those long terms are mostly uh convertible liabilities for 2030 that have a 0% coupon. So, it's not like they're dying or drowning in debt here when they got a 0% loan, basically. It's pretty good.
所以,关于Bloom Energy有很多值得兴奋的地方。我理解,我理解这种动能。我认为这项技术很出色。我认为它非常非常聪明。但是,我确实认为存在一些风险因素。所以,我们的股票AI工具,基本上试图结合我的大脑和调整算法以及人工智能,给你几个预测。我们会看苹果,也会看Bloom Energy。
So, there's a lot to be excited about when it comes to Bloom Energy. And I get it. I get the momentum. I think the technology is brilliant. I think it's really, really smart. Uh but, I do think there are some risk factors. And so, our stock AI tool, uh which basically tries to use my brain and tune algorithms in combination with artificial intelligence, gives you a couple forecasts. We'll look at both Apple and we'll look at Bloom Energy.
如果我看Bloom Energy,我看到它在124,这是股票AI上的目标。现在,为什么?我们之所以更低,是因为我在损益表上给你的例子是更激进的PEG。我认为306到153需要更高的净利率,这家公司无法实现。所以,更现实的是,你可能在90美元到178美元之间,取决于你使用的增长比率,这意味着对我来说,这更像是一个短期交易,而不是目前的基本面对冲买入。对于Bloom的底线结论,最大的问题是他们能否获得更多客户,能否更快地增长利润率?这才是Bloom的真正玩法。我的看法是,你确实希望看到客户和利润率都扩张。这可能不仅依赖于人工智能用途的扩展,无论是在医疗保健、机器人、太空,还是任何AGI,你知道,我不相信AGI,但不管怎样。我们真正希望看到的是这种繁荣的扩展,就像我们在内存周期中讨论的那样,在最终下降之前,你可以扩展数据中心的高原。理想情况下,你会得到更多AI数据中心增长的S曲线,燃料电池真正成为不仅仅是Oracle购买的核心产品,还有其他数据中心。所以,这不会使Bloom Energy成为一家糟糕的公司。这是一个集中风险。现在,这并不意味着有集中风险的公司就是糟糕的。就像,只是交易对手是谁。所以,在这种情况下,交易对手是Oracle,其信用违约互换正在飙升。我们真的希望看到扩展到其他数据中心,而不仅仅是Oracle。
If I look at Bloom Energy, I see it at 124 with this target on stock AI. Now, why? The reason we sit lower there is because the examples I gave you on the income statement were the more aggressive style PEGs. I think 306 to 153 requires a higher net margin that this company is not going to achieve. So, more realistically, you're probably somewhere between, depending on what growth ratio you use between 90 bucks to 178, which means for me, this is more of a short-term trade than it is a fundamental hedge buy at this point. For a bottom-line takeaway on Bloom, the big play here is can they get more customers and can they grow fast their margins faster? That's the real play on Bloom. My take uh is that you really want to see expansion not only to customers, but margins both happening. What that's probably going to rely on is not just an expansion of what artificial intelligence is used for, whether it's in healthcare, robotics, you know, space, you know, whatever AGI, which, you know, I don't believe in AGI, but whatever. Um what we really want to see is an expansion of that boom, kind of like what we talked about in that memory cycle, where you can expand out that data center plateau before you kind of get that eventual decline. Ideally, you get some more S curves of AI data center growth and you really get fuel cells becoming sort of a core product for not just Oracle uh that they purchased, but also other data centers. So, that doesn't make Bloom Energy a bad company. It's a concentrated risk. Now, that doesn't mean companies with concentrated risk are bad. Like it's just who's the counterparty. So, in this case, the counterparty is Oracle, which credit default swaps are skyrocketing on. We really want to see expansion to other data centers rather than just Oracle.
像Cerebras这样的公司在客户集中度上存在很大问题,尤其是在超快速令牌生成的人工智能领域。Nvidia与他们的Groq产品竞争,该产品刚刚宣布全面投产。但这对于客户服务和语音人工智能、低延迟通信非常有用。但Cerebras在OpenAI上存在非常大的客户集中度。你知道,OpenAI将会像Oracle之于Bloom Energy一样。这需要扩展。如果Cerebras不能扩展到OpenAI之外,那就糟糕了。然后,你就会陷入困境,人们只会使用Nvidia的产品,而Cerebras的产品无处可去,尤其是如果Nvidia能更快地扩展。这些都是真正的风险。
A company like Cerebras has a lot of customer concentration in uh you know, ultra-fast token artificial intelligence, ultra-fast token generation. Nvidia competes with their Groq product, which they just announced is in uh full production. Uh but this is really useful for customer service and voice artificial intelligence, low-latency communication. But Cerebrus has really big customer concentration with OpenAI. You know, OpenAI is going to be like, you know, an Oracle is for Bloom Energy. That needs to expand. And if Cerebrus can't expand past OpenAI, that's bad. And so, you know, then you kind of get stuck and people just use the Nvidia product and the Cerebrus product doesn't go anywhere, especially if Nvidia can scale faster. Those are all real risks.
所以,这取决于你想在哪里下注。然后,只要你下了注并知道这一点,你就可以监控事情如何发展。利润率是否在增加,客户集中度是否在下降并趋于分散?然后,当然,如果整个人工智能热潮继续扩大那个平台期,那会有所帮助。这对Bloom Energy的底线来说相当关键。
So, it just depends on kind of where you want to place that bet. And then, as long as you place that bet and know that, then you can kind of monitor how things are evolving. Is margin increasing uh and is that customer concentration uh declining toward a broadening out? Uh and then, of course, it would help if the entire artificial intelligence boom kind of keeps going to expand that plateau. That's pretty uh critical for uh Bloom Energy at sort of bottom line on it.
所以,出现了巨大的热潮,让我们用燃料电池来建立数据中心,这样我们可以快速启动并降低数据中心的上线时间,这非常重要,因为猜猜Bloom Energy最大的风险是什么?他们的主要客户。
So, there's been this huge boom in let's just use fuel cells to stand up our data centers so we can get up and running and lower our time to revenue on data centers, which is really important because guess the biggest risk for Bloom Energy? Their main customer.
所以,这是客户集中度风险,我认为这是一个非常大的红旗。这并不是说我看空这家公司。我们稍后会讨论目标价,但他们确实存在严重的收入集中度。他们上一季度收入的44%来自Oracle。而在过去六个月中,73%来自Oracle。
So, this is customer concentration risk, which I think is a really big red flag. That's not to say I'm bearish on the company. We'll talk about a price target in just a moment, but they have got serious revenue concentration. 44% of their Q1 or their last quarter's revenue came from Oracle. And in the last six months, 73% came from Oracle.
也许我们能够维持并重新突破,但你可以看到自6月以来,在Google和SpaceX的冲击之后,股价一直在下跌。为什么?可能是增长的可见性。这就是这些公司的真正重要之处,我们试图预测增长。
Uh and maybe we'll be able to sustain that and break back up, but you could see since uh June, after the Google and SpaceX suckening, the stock has been falling. Why? It could be visibility into growth. And that's always what's really important about these companies is we try to forecast growth.
但问题是,增长到50%的速度将会逐渐放缓,尤其是当Oracle长期购买更少时。预计在4年内,3到4年内会放缓到25%。
But the problem is the growth that's going up to 50% is going to taper off, especially as Oracle buys fewer of these in the longer term. It's expected in 4 years, 3 and 4 years to taper down to 25%.
所以,如果我以25%的增长乘以2.4倍的市盈率乘以他们今天的每股收益,我今天的公允价值实际上是153。所以在205时,我们更接近这个,但我的上行空间是什么,对吧?我的上行空间是期望这能永远持续繁荣和增长,但我真的依赖Oracle。所以这意味着我需要扩展到不同的客户。我需要向Oracle销售更多。我不想押注于Oracle。或者我需要我的利润率上升。
And so if I run this at just 25% growth times a 2.4 multiple times their earnings per share today, my fair value today is actually 153. So at 205 you know, we're we're we're closer to this, but like what's my upside, right? My upside is expecting that this can keep booming and growing forever, but I'm really reliant on Oracle. So what that means is I need to expand to different customers. I need to sell to Oracle more. I don't want to bet on Oracle. Uh or I need my margins to go up.
利润率不错,但我们已经看到一些压力,对吧?收入增长了2.6倍,而产品成本增长了2.9倍。所以成本增长高于收入,他们说部分原因是他们不得不增加销售人员的股票补偿,这在我看来表明他们的销售人员非常努力地争取这些销售和合同签署。如果我必须支付更多,而我无法提高价格或收入,那么这让我质疑这种收入的可持续性有多久?
Margins they're good but we're already seeing some of the pressure here, right? Revenue's up 2.6 times and product costs are up 2.9x. So costs are up higher than revenue and they say part of that is because they had to pay an increase in stock-based compensation on their sales, which to me suggests that like their sales people are grinding really hard to get those sales and contracts signed. And if I got to pay more than I'm able to increase the prices or revenue, then it just sort of makes me question like how long and sustainable is that revenue?
他们确实承认利润率波动很大。他们在这里说。嘿,我们一直是负的。我们8年前上市。在那段时间里,我们从负摆动到正。有太多事情在变化,但我们对自己的总可寻址市场非常乐观。我们认为有巨大的顺风。我们将能够增加市场份额,获得更多客户。你知道,也许Oracle只是开始。
They do acknowledge that margin swings a lot. They say it over here. Hey, we've been negative. We went public 8 years ago. In between that time we've swung from negative to positive. There's so much going on uh in terms of changing, but we're really bullish on our total addressable market. We think there are massive tailwinds. We're going to be able to increase market share, get more customers. You know, maybe Oracle is just the start.
他们还有一个关联方购买他们自己的产品。这是一个他们基本上与Brookfield Asset Management合作运营的基金。所以在他们的一些集中度风险中,你实际上会看到,“嘿,我们的一些销售去了一个关联方实体。”那是他们的人工智能基金。他们的人工智能基金自然购买Bloom Energy的产品。但同样,在上一季度,这占他们收入的21%。所以他们自己的循环融资占收入的21%。Oracle在上一季度占44%。再上一个季度,Oracle甚至更多,对吧?所以如果你失去循环部分,如果你失去Oracle,你就会失去我们看到的很多增长势头。现在,希望你能获得新客户,但这就是你在损益表上下的赌注。
They also have a related party that buys their own products. This is a fund that they basically operate in partnership with Brookfield Asset Management. And so in some of their concentration risk, you'll actually see, "Hey, some of our sales went to a related party entity." That's their AI fund. And their AI fund naturally buys Bloom Energy products. But again, in the last quarter, that represented 21% of their revenue. So their own sort of circular financing was 21% of the revenue. Oracle was 44% in the last quarter. The quarter before that, Oracle was even more, right? So if you lose the circular part, if you lose Oracle, you lose a lot of that growth momentum that we're seeing. Now, hopefully you could just land new customers, but that's the bet that you're making on this income statement.
所以,我们的股票AI工具,基本上试图结合我的大脑和调整算法与人工智能,给你一些预测。我们将看看Apple和Bloom Energy。
And so, our stock AI tool, uh which basically tries to use my brain and tune algorithms in combination with artificial intelligence, gives you a couple forecasts. We'll look at both Apple and we'll look at Bloom Energy.
对于Bloom的底线结论,关键是他们能否获得更多客户,能否更快地增长利润率?这是Bloom的真正关键。我的看法是,你确实希望看到客户和利润率都实现扩张。
For a bottom-line takeaway on Bloom, the big play here is can they get more customers and can they grow fast their margins faster? That's the real play on Bloom. My take uh is that you really want to see expansion not only to customers, but margins both happening.
这可能不仅依赖于人工智能用途的扩展,无论是在医疗保健、机器人、太空,还是任何AGI,我不相信AGI,但无论如何。我们真正希望看到的是那个热潮的扩展,就像我们在内存周期中讨论的那样,在最终衰退之前扩展数据中心平台期。理想情况下,你会得到更多人工智能数据中心增长的S曲线,并且燃料电池真正成为不仅仅是Oracle购买的核心产品,还有其他数据中心。
What that's probably going to rely on is not just an expansion of what artificial intelligence is used for, whether it's in healthcare, robotics, you know, space, you know, whatever AGI, which, you know, I don't believe in AGI, but whatever. Um what we really want to see is an expansion of that boom, kind of like what we talked about in that memory cycle, where you can expand out that data center plateau before you kind of get that eventual decline. Ideally, you get some more S curves of AI data center growth and you really get fuel cells becoming sort of a core product for not just Oracle uh that they purchased, but also other data centers.
所以,这不会使Bloom Energy成为一家坏公司。这是一个集中风险。现在,这并不意味着有集中风险的公司是坏的。就像只是谁是交易对手。所以,在这种情况下,交易对手是Oracle,其信用违约互换正在飙升。我们真的希望看到扩展到其他数据中心,而不仅仅是Oracle。
So, that doesn't make Bloom Energy a bad company. It's a concentrated risk. Now, that doesn't mean companies with concentrated risk are bad. Like it's just who's the counterparty. So, in this case, the counterparty is Oracle, which credit default swaps are skyrocketing on. We really want to see expansion to other data centers rather than just Oracle.
但Cerebras在OpenAI上存在非常大的客户集中度。你知道,OpenAI将会像Oracle之于Bloom Energy一样。这需要扩展。如果Cerebras不能扩展到OpenAI之外,那就糟糕了。然后,你就会陷入困境,人们只会使用Nvidia的产品,而Cerebras的产品无处可去,尤其是如果Nvidia能更快地扩展。这些都是真正的风险。
But Cerebrus has really big customer concentration with OpenAI. You know, OpenAI is going to be like, you know, an Oracle is for Bloom Energy. That needs to expand. And if Cerebrus can't expand past OpenAI, that's bad. And so, you know, then you kind of get stuck and people just use the Nvidia product and the Cerebrus product doesn't go anywhere, especially if Nvidia can scale faster. Those are all real risks.
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