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戴尔的强劲表现得益于利润率扩张和定价能力;假设持续高增长,按PEG估值具有吸引力,尽管存在技术阻力。

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每股收益为74美元,远超预期的4.92美元。营收为469.7亿美元,高于预期的449.2亿美元。AI优化服务器营收超出预期,达到164亿美元,同比增长27%,尽管去年爆发式增长后基数较高。

Just EPS came in at $74. That is well ahead of estimates for $4.92. Revenue was 46.97 billion, topping expectations of 44.92 billion. AI optimized server revenue that came in ahead of expectations at 16.4 billion, up 27% year-over-year, even against what was a very tough comp after last year's blowout growth.

戴尔再次上调全年AI服务器营收目标,从600亿美元上调至740亿美元。这一强劲表现也体现在更广泛的基础设施业务中,ISG(戴尔销售企业硬件的部门)营收超出预期,毛利率和营业利润率均远高于预期。

And then Dell is raising its fullear AI server revenue target yet again now to $74 billion up from 60 billion. The strength also showed up across the broader infrastructure business with ISG revenue that is the division of Dell that sells enterprise hardware coming in ahead of estimates while gross and operating margins were both well above expectations.

营收(戴尔销售企业硬件的部门)超出预期,毛利率和营业利润率均远高于预期。展望未来,戴尔在强劲的第三季度预测支持下,全年业绩大幅超出预期并上调指引。戴尔目前预计营收为1920亿美元,高于此前的1670亿美元,调整后每股收益为25.50美元,而市场预期略低于19美元。

电话会议大约25分钟后开始。我们将随时为您带来头条新闻,目前股价上涨接近6%,Mike。目前股价上涨接近6%,Mike。

revenue that is the division of Dell that sells enterprise hardware coming in ahead of estimates while gross and operating margins were both well above expectations. And then looking ahead, Dell is delivering a sizable both beat and raise for the full year backed by a strong Q3 forecast. Del now sees 192 billion in revenue up from 167 billion previously and 2550 an adjusted EPS versus the street at just shy of $19. The conference call kicking off in about 25 minutes from now. We'll bring you headlines as we get them and for now shares up uh close to 6% Mike. for now shares up uh close to 6% Mike.

戴尔的业绩非常出色,他们确实一直在碾压预期。他们的数据中心业务表现非常好,尽管利润率低得惊人。我认为利润率大约在5%到6%左右,但营收表现非常强劲。他们确实看到了营收的爆炸性增长,并将本财年AI优化服务器的营收指引上调至740亿美元,而此前约为600亿美元。

请记住,即使利润率很低,但4%的利润率仍然意味着40亿美元的额外收入。嗯,我的意思是,在740亿美元的基础上,4%的利润率仍然是30亿美元,对吧?所以,这就是对戴尔热情的部分原因。

The uh Dell Beats are just remarkable. They just keep honestly crushing. Uh, and it's that that data center portion of their business that's doing so well, which is actually surprisingly low margin. I think somewhere around five to six% margin but the top line just does so freaking well. So uh they see yeah revenue just exp uh explosive and increase in guide their AI optimized servers guidance for the fiscal year expected to be 74 billion they saw about $60 billion and so keep in mind if you're bringing down you know 4% uh even though that margin sucks it's still 4 billion more dollars you know uh well I mean on a 100 so on on 74 it'd be less but uh 7 Yeah, 74 time 4%. That's still $3 billion, right? So, some of the enthusiasm on Dell.

现在看来,答案是戴尔。看看他们的财报,但你真的会回想起,该股今天下跌了7%。所以,你几乎只是勉强收复了过去几天的跌幅。这也有点疯狂。

It looks like right now the answer to that is Dell. Uh so look at some of the I mean we'll look go look at their sheets in just a moment but you're this really actually brings you back. I mean the stock was down 7% today. So, you're literally just barely recovering what happened the last couple days. Also, kind of wild.

我知道我们有戴尔的财报,我们有

I know we've got Dell earnings, we've got

让我们去看看戴尔投资者关系的季度业绩。所以,我们将打开戴尔的页面。我们进入这里。这将是第二季度。我们现在只有新闻稿。财报电话会议即将开始。

Let's go look at Dell Investor relations quarterly results. So, we'll pop open Dell. We'll get to go into here. So, this is going to be the Q2. We only have a press release right now. The earnings call is going to be going on soon.

我们快速看一下戴尔,确实调出了页面,但从未真正去查看。好的。所以,戴尔戴尔戴尔戴尔。不知道我把它放哪里了。我们会找到的。我找到了。好的。这是他们的财报,我想他们现在可能也在进行财报电话会议。

we take a quick look at Dell, which did pull that up, just never actually ended up getting to doing it. Okay. So, Dell Dell Dell Dell. Don't know where I put it. We will find it. I got it. All right. So, this is their earnings report and then they've probably got I think they have their earnings call running as well right now.

让我看看能否获取实时记录。有时我可以。戴尔财报电话会议。我会调出这个,然后让我们看看戴尔9126财报。

Let me see if I can get a live transcript of it. Sometimes I can. Dell earnings call. I'll pull this and then uh let's look at Dell 9126 earnings report.

戴尔科技公布了业绩。戴尔。让我们把它放在这里。戴尔。好的,我们有首席运营官提到CPU短缺和磁盘驱动器短缺。预计到2030年,75%的数据中心需求将是AI。

Dell Technologies announced uh the results. Del Dell. Let's drop that here. Dell. Okay, we've got COO spotty CPU shortages and shortages with disc drives. expecting 75% of all data center demand to be AI by 2030.

下半年将比上半年更强劲。泡沫尚未结束。首个全年营业费用率展望为营收的8%。8%的费用率是42年来的最低水平。

second half to be even stronger than first half. The bubble ain't over. First full year operating expense rate outlook of 8% of revenue. 8% of revenue expense rate lowest in 42-year history.

大型企业客户继续更新其PC安装基础。大部分安装基础仍在使用第14代或更老旧的服务器。未来存在显著且持久的更新机会。对于较老的第14代及更老一代服务器,存在巨大的更新机会。

Large enterprise customers continue to refresh their PC install base. Majority of install base still on 14th generation or older servers. significant durable refresh opportunity ahead. Uh big refresh opportunity for older 14 and older generation servers

需求在NeoCloud主权云、企业和主权客户中不断扩大,这些客户正在对其数据中心进行现代化改造。

demand broadening across NeoCloud sovereigns enterprise sovereign customers are modernizing their data centers.

AI优化服务器属于ISG,即基础设施解决方案集团。AI优化服务器的营收实际上翻了一番。这是一个惊人的速度。

AI optimized servers ISG. So this is the infrastructure solutions group. AI optimized servers literally grew by double. That's an incredible rate.

平心而论,增长率已经大幅下降,因为它们的基数非常低。164,截至7月或5月的三个月。等等,那并没有增长那么多。这实际上非常有趣。所以那是同比翻倍。但相对于上个季度,上个季度是16132,所以环比增长实际上很慢,16132除以16132只有1.67%的环比增长。这很有趣,实际上有点令人惊讶。

in fairness, the growth rate has kind of collapsed because they were coming off such a low level. 164 3 months ending July, ending May. Wait a sec. That didn't grow that much. That's actually very interesting. So that's a double year-over-year. But from the last quarter, last Q it was 161 32. So sequential growth was actually slow divided by 16132 only 1.67% Q uh sequential. That's interesting. It's actually somewhat surprising.

传统服务器占92%。传统服务器增长更多。存储占26%。存储增长了8%。所以本季度存储和传统服务器增长更快。因此,这相当于营业收入为47.8亿美元。相当不错。从这里开始是4.7。

所以,这使我们的利润率达到15%。哇,利润率实际上真的提高了。看看那个。之前是8%的营业收入。营业收入已经翻了一番。利润率真的飙升了。所以,他们确实是从如此低的利润率起步,以至于他们能够在此基础上增长。所以,这就是利润率。

Traditional servers 92%. Traditional servers grew more. Storage 26%. Storage grew 8%. So storage and traditional grew faster this quarter. So, this works out to operating income of $4.78 billion. Pretty good. 4.7 from here. So, that brings us to a margin of 15%. Wow, the margins actually really improved. Look at that. Was 8% operating income. operating income has has doubled. Margin really popped. So, they're really starting on such a slow margin or low margin that they're able to grow above that. So, that's margins.

我想知道这是否也是他们在财报电话会议中所说的。我能拿到戴尔的吗?我认为他们的财报电话会议还不会发布。我不能。拜托。不,我可以。算了,现在不会发生的。没关系,我们会等待。

I wonder if that's what they're saying in their earnings call, too. Can I get Dell? I don't think their earnings call is going to be out yet. I can't. Come on. No, I can. Nah, just not gonna happen right now. That's fine. We'll wait for it.

但戴尔更多地使用我们的存储产品和AI应用。好的,那没问题。我的意思是,很明显这里的利润率在上升。毛利率增长了80%。这就是定价能力的增强。他们的总营收增长了58%。他们的利润率增长了这么多。

所以,他们的服务成本实际上已经下降,这非常好。而且他们的产品成本增长速度低于营收增长,所以这就是定价能力,然后你知道,这种毛利率增长就是市盈率,研发等等,所有这些运营费用只增长了21%,这很好。

我们实际上看到了更多的利润率,并且看到了净收入的巨大部分,我的意思是,净收入正在爆炸式增长,从4133除以4697,仍然带来约8.8%的净利率。

But Dell greater use of our storage products and AI applications. Okay, that's fine. I mean, it's obvious the margins are going up here. Gross margin grew 80%. This is growing pricing power right here. Their total revenue grew 58%. Their margins grew by this. So, their cost of services has actually come down, which is fantastic. and the cost of their products is grow growing slower than their revenue increase you know so that's PP and then you know this gross margin growth that's pe R&D all of these like the operating expenses only growing at 21% that's great we're actually seeing way more margins and see a massive portion of net income uh is is I mean net income is exploding from this 4133 divided by 4697 still bringing about 8.8% to the bottom.

让我看看他们的预测利润率,因为那真的非常好。所以,我们将选择戴尔。哦,我们来了。这里有一些关于戴尔正在发生什么的更多见解。

Let me see what their forecast margins are because that's really really good. So, we're gonna go with Dell. Oh, here we go. Here's some uh more insight on what's going on with Dell.

戴尔的指引。让我们看看。营收指引也加上两个AR营收激增,提升了财年展望。财年调整后每股收益,哇,那很大。财年调整后每股收益预计约为50美分,所以1769加25等于1790,实际预测现在是2550。

这是预测的超出,255除以179,超出预测每股收益42%。那是相当大的。

Dell guidance. Let's see. revenue guidance also plus two AR revenue surges boosted fiscal year outlook fiscal year adjusted EPS whoa that's big fiscal year adjusted EPS was projected at that's about 50 cents so 1769 plus 25 1790 uh actual forecast now is 2550. That's a forecast beat of 255 divided by 179. 42% beat uh of forecast EPS. That's substantial.

所以我认为市场并没有预料到这一点,这可能就是为什么它会这样调整。非常好。

So I don't think markets were looking at that all and that's probably why it's adjusting like this. Very good.

所以,他们实际上真的在这个低利润率产品上获得了如此多的定价权,以至于他们能够大幅提升,而企业AI就是关键所在。在我看来,这非常令人印象深刻。我的意思是,这也是苹果的做法,只是苹果有利润率。

So they're really actually they're getting so much pricing power on this low margin product that they're just able to crank it and enterprise AI is where it's at. IMO this is very impressive. I mean this is this is the Apple move as well as well except Apple has margin.

所以,是盈利提升让他们真正飙升。并不是说AI服务器的增长很多,因为实际上环比并没有增长多少。而是利润率提升,因为你从一家历史上利润率低得多的公司开始。

So, it's the earnings boost that made them really pop here. It wasn't so much that, you know, the AI server growth grew a lot because it really didn't sequentially. It was the margin boost because you're going from a company that historically has had much lower margins.

是的。是的。我的意思是,你可以看到上面的净收入,但那是历史净收入。好的。所以,如果我回到两三年或更久以前,对吧?这家公司的历史净收入一直是负的。2020年0.5,2021年2.3,2022年4.7,2023年4.2,抱歉,2024年4.7,2025年4.8,2026年5.7。

好的,准备好了吗?这才是真正有趣的地方。2027年。所以1月27日的估计是7.1,2027年1月的估计可能会上升到大约8%,甚至可能8.2,2031年1月的估计。所以你对净收入有一点预测。嗯,这实际上将是,是的,那是净收入利润率。

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can see the net income up there, but historic net income. Okay. So, if I go back two or three years, right? Historic net income at this company has been uh negative.5 2020, 2.3 2021, 4.7 2022, 4.7 Sorry, 4.2 2 2023 4.7 2024 4.8 2025 5.7 2026 Okay, ready for this? This is where it actually gets fun. 2027. So Jan 27 estimate 7.1 Jan 2027 esting to go up to about 8% possibly even 8.2 Jan 2031 estimate. So you have a little bit of that forecast for net income. Uh this is actually going to be yeah that's net income margin.

如果我们看增长率,20.63加17.44加22.77加4.42等于65.26除以4等于16.31%的增长率。如果我做一个四年的,称之为65价格除以1910,因为明年他们预测25。

嗯,那比这些估计所基于的要多。嗯,所以增长率实际上可能低了大约40%。也许没那么高,或者只是说,我的意思是,这就是这个预测偏离的地方。这个预测偏离了什么?这个预测,哦,我在哪里写的?

这个预测在这里。所以这是预测的利润率,42%,对吧?

And if we look at the growth rates 20.63 1744 plus 22.77 + 4.42 equals 6526 divided 4 equals 16.31% growth rate. If I do a four, call it 65 price divided by 1910 because next year they're projecting 25. Well, that's more than these estimates are based on anyway. Uh, so the growth rates are honestly low by probably 40%. Maybe not that high or well just I mean that's what this forecast was off. What was this forecast off? This forecast Oh, where did I write it? This forecast was here. So this is the margins 42% on forecast, right?

所以,如果那低了,如果平均四年增长率24%也太低,那么,哦,抱歉,42%太低。那么增长率可能实际上是,取24.34乘以1.42,大约是35%的平均值。现在我可以取,哦,等等,增长率是16.1%。

哎呀,那是增长率。那是预测的盈利。嗯,如果四年增长率低了42%,那么增长率可能实际上是16.32乘以1.42,23%,23倍仍然是低利润率,你知道,1.4,也许称之为乘以23乘以1.4乘以1910。

是的,我的意思是,如果市盈率要达到1.4,那证明615美元的股票是合理的,如果你想走得那么高。如果你保持在较低水平,你更接近1.2,那将是1.2乘以23乘以19.1,仍然等于527。

所以,这表明预测对于这家公司正在实现的业绩来说太低了。

So, if that's low, if average 4-year growth rate is 24% too low, then oh, sorry, 42% too low. Then growth might actually be uh take 24.34 time 1.42 would be about 35% average. Now I could take Oh, hold on. Growth rate of 16.1%. Whoops. That's the growth rate. That's uh projected earnings. Uh if the four-year growth rate is 42% too low, then growth rate might actually be 16.32 times 1.42 23% 23 times still low margin, you know, 1.4 maybe call it uh times uh 23 * 1.4 times 1910. Yeah, I mean that justifies $615 stock at 1.4 as a peg if you want to go that high. If you stay lower, you stay closer to 1.2, that would be 1.2 * 23 * 19.1 equals still 527. So, it shows how the forecasts were just too low for what this company's pulling off,

让我看看是否还有其他关于它的新消息。没有了。嗯,财年预测盈利与戴尔更新的预测相比低了42%。让我们更新一下。

let me see if there are any other new notes on it. Nope. Uh fiscal year forecast earnings were 42% too low compared to uh Dell updated forecast. Let's update that in.

让我继续看下去,把关于戴尔的想法说完,因为确实相当令人印象深刻。他们有没有提到客户的情况?IT环境已从成本中心转变为价值驱动力,这推动了增长和竞争优势,当然也会给他们带来定价权,这为我们的投资组合创造了机会,在我们的AI业务中,订单额达609亿美元,更广泛的收入中传统服务器和存储均有所增长,第二季度创纪录收入达470亿美元,我们上调了展望,AI优化服务器等等。

let me keep looking just to finish my thoughts here on the Dell info because it's pretty impressive. Do they have a note about their customers? IT environments have shifted from cost center to value drivers. that fuel growth and competitive advantage which is going to give them pricing power of course that's creating an opportunity for our portfolio clear in our AI business 60.9 billion in orders broader revenue traditional servers are up storage is up second quarter delivered record revenue 47 billion raising our outlook AI optimized servers blah blah blah blah blah.

戴尔的资产负债表看起来如何?看看他们的流动负债,我大约有700亿的账单。700亿的账单。长期债务2614,不,2730亿,长期债务约1000亿,其中很多是短期的,说实话他们需要加强现金管理,他们需要卖掉这些短期融资的应收账款,13加22加23加11.5加69,大约能支付他们的账单,现金和应收账款大致能支付账单,但仍然有点紧张。

How's the balance sheet looking at Dell? Just to see their current liabilities, I've got about 70 in bills. 70 bill in bills. Long-term debts 26 14 no 27 30 billion long-term about a 100red billion in debt a lot of short honestly they need to step up the cash game they need to sell this crap short-term financing receivables 13 plus 22 plus 23 + 11.5 and 69 yeah that roughly pays their bills uh cash and receivables roughly pay bills still a little tight.

如果看现金流,自由现金流仍在流入。运营现金流22亿美元,资本支出12亿,仍有10亿美元的自由现金流。是的,这是一个低利润率赢家。

And if I look at the cash flow, I mean here, free cash flow still coming in with free cash flow. Cash flow from operations 2.2 billion. Capex 1.2. Still got a billion bucks of free cash flow. Yeah, low low low margin winner here.

所以,戴尔在盘后上涨约6%。我认为它可能受到的一些压力可能来自收益率,以及伊朗消息带来的部分痛苦。

So, Dell up about 6% in afters. I would say there's a chance some of the weight down on it could honestly be yields and some of the pain on um the Iran news.

让我们尽量快速高效地覆盖所有这些。先看戴尔,因为我们这里有数据。哦,我们应该总结一下2026财年,那是什么来着?调整后每股收益预测高得离谱。但确实,有了那个指引或预测,我们基本上已经把所有的兴奋都定价进去了。

然后他们对2026财年AI优化服务器的预期上调了约23%。第三季度收入指引也比预期高出70亿美元,这很棒。所以你有23和49除以41.9。是的,16和23。好的。相当不错。酷。

let's try to cover all of this quickly and efficiently. So let's do Dell first just because we have the numbers here. Oh, we should summarize the fiscal year B on what was that again? It was it was the EPS the adjusted EPS forecast was insane. But it really then you know with that guidance or that forecast we did sort of prices in all of the excitement. Uh, and then how much they see for the fiscal year for AI optimized servers is up about 23%. Q3 revenue guide also $7 billion higher than expected, which is great. So you got 23 and 49 divided by 41.9. Yeah, 16 and 23. Okay. All right. Pretty good. Cool.

戴尔刚刚大幅超出盈利预期,表明AI过度建设远未结束,这与我们的论点一致,因为我们确实相信来自SpaceX和其他公司的资金将继续流入这个漩涡,无论是Anthropic的IPO还是融资、债务融资等等,所有这些都会不断循环进入这些AI硬件公司。

戴尔是这种吸金效应的受益者之一。他们从金融体系中吸走资金用于资本支出。戴尔承接了其中一部分。

Dell just smashed earnings, suggesting the AI overbuild is nowhere close to finishing, which has been consistent with the thesis given that we really believe that the money coming from SpaceX and other companies is going to keep going into this vortex, whether it's the anthropic IPO or money raising, debt financing, whatever, it's all just going to kind of keep cycling into these AI hardware companies. Dell is the recipient of some of that sucking. They suck money out of the financial system to invest in capital expenditures. Dell picks some of that up.

硬件2.0周期一直受到流动性不足以及对JPA、Kevin Worsh和利率的担忧的困扰,这种吸金效应正在将资金送往硬件领域,最终应该会推动硬件2.0的反弹,尽管我们有点延迟,因为再次受到利率担忧和Worsh的影响。

The hardware 2.0 cycle which has been struggling with a lack of liquidity and fear over JPA and well Kevin Worsh and rates that sucking is sending money to the hardware place and eventually should drive a hardware 2.0 rally. Although we're delayed a little bit because again those the you know rate concerns and worsh.

那么我们从戴尔得到了什么,有什么有趣之处?戴尔刚刚报告的收入全面超出预期。第三季度收入指引上调16.9%,这非常好。AI优化服务器预测比预期高出23%,达到740亿,而预期为600亿。这确实是最大的亮点。

So what did we just get out of Dell and what's so interesting about it? Dell just reported uh revenues uh that beat expectations across the board. We got Q3 revenue guide up 16.9%. Which is really good. The AI optimized server forecast uh came in 23% higher than expected at 74 billion versus 60. And this was really the showstopper.

他们的财年每股收益预测比预期高出42%,这太疯狂了。不是每股17.9美元,在调整后每股收益的粗略中值区间17.8到17.9,对于截至2027年1月的财年,他们的财年有点奇怪。不是17.8到17.9,他们预计调整后每股收益为25.50美元。

2550。天哪,这是对底线预测的42%的大幅超出。

Their fiscal year earnings per share forecast came in 42% higher than expected, which is insane. Instead of $17.9 per share uh on uh 17.8 17.9 in that rough midpoint range for adjusted EPS next year or for the uh yeah, for the fiscal year uh ending January 2027. Their fiscal year is a little funky. uh instead of 17.8 to 17.9, they're expecting to have adjusted EPS of $25.50. 2550. Come on, man. This is a massive beat of 42% on their forecast bottom line.

现在,那是调整后每股收益,所以可能有一些奇怪的数学问题。所以,我想做的是深入研究他们的利润率,因为我一直认为戴尔是一个相对低利润的基础设施公司。

Now, that is adjusted EPS, so there could be some funky math going on there. So, what I wanted to do was go deep in uh dig deep into their margins because I've always thought of Dell as a relatively low margin infrastructure play.

例如,我在这里的搜索功能中输入了戴尔,然后我可以看到一些来自财报电话会议的评论,而不必实际收听电话会议。但谈到利润率,我一直认为戴尔历史上是低利润业务,自2020年以来确实如此。

回到2020年,你看,他们亏损了。好吧,那是新冠疫情。2021年利润率2.3%。2022、2023、2024、2025年基本上在4.2%到4.8%之间。低。

And uh uh for example, one of the things that I did is I typed in Dell into the search function right here. And then I could see some of the Dell commentary coming straight out of the earnings call without having to actually listen to the earnings call. But talking about margins, so I've always thought of Dell as a historically low margin business and since 2020, they really have been. Go back to 2020, you see, they lost money. Uh, okay fine. It was COVID. 2021 2.3% margins. 2022 23 24 25 basically between 4.2 to 4.8% margins. Low.

但看看对他们利润率变化的预期。2026年5.7,2027年7.1,到2031年终止于约8.2,基于当前分析师的预期。这个从25年到26年的跳跃,然后到2027年1月的跳跃。顺便说一句,所有这些日期都结束在1月,这又是他们奇怪的财年日历,但无所谓。

But look at the expectations of what's happening to their margins. 2026 5.7 2027 7.1 terminating at about 8.2 in 2031 based on current analyst expectations. this jump between 25 and 26 uh and then this jump up to January of 2027. All these dates, by the way, end in January, which is again their sort of weird fiscal calendar, but whatever.

从4.8到5.7代表18.9%或18.8%的增长。如果我用17.1除以5.7,那代表24.12%的增长率。所以这些净利润率在飙升,这就是为什么戴尔的财报引起如此多热情的原因之一,因为我们发现一个相对低利润的供应商实际上为戴尔贡献了可观的底线提升。

5.7 from 4.8 represents an 18.9% 18.8% growth. And if I go 17.1 divided by 5.7, that represents a 24 12% growth rate. So these net income margins are popping off and that's one of the reasons there's so much enthusiasm on the earnings report coming from Dell because we're finding that a relatively low margin provider is actually contributing uh substantial bottomline boosts uh for Dell.

所以,如果我跳到他们的基础设施部门,那里你会看到人工智能服务器,你会发现AI优化服务器比去年翻了一番。

So, if I jump on over to their infrastructure group, which is where you're going to see the artificial intelligence servers, you'll find here that AI optimized servers saw a doubling from last year.

有趣的是,那个增长仅比上个季度增长1.67%。看,我调出了他们上次的财报,截至5月1日的AI优化服务器为161亿。而本季度为164亿。所以,你开始遇到一些大数字的担忧,但每股收益的增长才是让人们真正兴奋的原因。

Now, interestingly, that growth was only 1.67% from the last quarter. See, I pulled up their last earnings report, and AI optimized servers ending May 1st sat at 16.1 billion. And in this quarter, they sat at 16.4 billion. So, you're kind of starting to run into some of those large number concerns, but the EPS growth is what's making people really excited about the stock.

我个人认为这是一个红旗。我想明确,我对戴尔没有多头或空头的敞口。只是分享我的反应。我确实看到本季度传统服务器和存储的增长更高,分别为122%和26%,而上一季度它们的增长率为92%和8%。

因此,这两个细分市场实际上都增长良好,使得基础设施集团的收入增长了89%。

I personally flag this as a little bit of a red flag. And I want to be clear, I do not have an exposure long or short to Dell. Just sharing, you know, my sort of reaction to this. uh I did see that in this quarter traditional servers and storage grew more at 122% and 26% whereas in the last quarter they were growing at 92% and 8%. So both of those segments actually grew nicely leading to an 89% increase in that infrastructure group revenue.

上一季度由于AI优化服务器约700%的增长率,增速更高。因此,AI优化服务器在季度环比上略有放缓,因为遇到了大数定律。

Uh last quarter higher growth rate because of that growth uh you know that like 700% growth rate in AI optimized servers. So a little bit of a slowdown quarter to quarter uh here in AI optimized servers who are running into the law of large numbers.

但令人着迷的不是大数定律问题,而是他们的定价能力。他们的营业利润占净利润的百分比,即扣除成本后,现在为基础设施解决方案集团贡献了15%,而过去是8.8%。所以,他们卖出一台服务器,过去能带来8.8%的营业利润,现在带来的几乎是过去的两倍。

好吧,我说两倍可能有点慷慨,他们实际上带来了70%的更多利润。这真的很好。

But what's fascinating isn't the law of num large numbers problem. What's fascinating is their pricing power. Their uh percentage of operating income as a percentage of net income. So after costs is now 15% for the infrastructure solutions group. It used to be 8.8%. So they'd go sell a server to somebody and they'd bring bring 8.8% to operating income. Now they're bringing nearly twice that to operating income. Okay, I might be generous with twice. They are bringing 70% more. That's really good.

所以,这种利润率跃升令人着迷。人们喜欢这一点。这种利润率跃升可能证明了戴尔调整后每股收益预测的上涨是合理的。但我不仅仅想看基础设施解决方案集团,我还想看看他们的定价能力是否在其他地方也在增长。

如果我看他们产品的利润率增长,答案是肯定的。我们产生的收入超过了我们产品的成本。这就是定价能力的提升。

So that margin pop is fascinating. People love that. that margin pop could be justifying this boost we're seeing in Dell's uh forecast for adjusted EPS. But I didn't just want to look at the infrastructure solutions group. So I wanted to see if their pricing power is growing elsewhere. If I look at their margin growth on products, the answer is yes. We are generating more revenues than our products are costing us. That's an increase in pricing power.

此外,当我们比较总收入增长58%,甚至仅产品增长72%,然后我们看到毛利率增长80%,我们可以看出80%的毛利率增长大于收入增长,这意味着他们正在获得更多的定价权。

Plus, when we compare total revenue growing at 58% or even just products growing at 72%. And then we look at gross margin growth of 80%. We can see that 80% their gross margin is greater than what their revenue growth is, which means they're taking more pricing.

你也可以反过来看,他们的成本增长慢于实际收入增长,这很好。产品和服务实际上都是负增长,他们在服务上花费更少。所以,你看到毛利率在扩大,这些都是定价能力的迹象。

You could also look at it in the inverse by looking at their costs which are growing slower than their actual uh revenues are growing. Uh which is great. both both products services were actually negative over here. They spent less money on services. So you've got this expanding gross margin. Those are all signs of pricing power.

这一切是否可能是暂时的泡沫?当然,当然。就像我说的,我认为我们还会迎来一次好的狂热反弹,然后我认为Anthropic会毁了每个人的一天。不是在他们IPO的时候,而是当他们上市后公布第一、第二和第三季度财报时,人们开始说:“啊,真的吗?

没那么好。”这种情况发生得越多,支出就会开始放缓一些,硬件炒作也会消退。我仍然认为从现在到那时之间还有一个炒作周期。

Is it possible this is all a temporary bubble? Of course. Of course. Like you know, like I said, I think we got one more good euphoric rally and then I think Anthropic ruins everyone's day. Not right when they IPO, but when they report their first and second and third quarter earnings as they're public and people start going, "Ah, really? That's not that good." You know, the more that starts happening, that's when, you know, some of the spending slows down a little bit and the hardware hype kind of dies. I still think there's a hype cycle between now and them.

但戴尔实际上非常独特,因为戴尔并不真正向超大规模云服务商销售。戴尔专注于向主权云、Neocloud以及企业业务销售。

But Dell is actually really unique because Dell doesn't actually sell to the hyperscalers. Dell focuses their sales on the sovereigns, the Neoclouds, uh, and then also uh, the the enterprise businesses.

而且因为我们在硬件上的支出正在产生收入。这正是戴尔在收入方面所说的。如果你看戴尔的收入,他们说,而且这完全正确,IT环境已经从成本中心转变为推动增长和竞争优势的价值驱动因素,客户正在相应地进行投资,为戴尔的产品组合创造机会。

And because like the money we're spending on hardware is generating money. And that's literally what Dell said at their top line. If you look at Dell's top line, they say, and it's totally true, it environments have shifted from cost centers to value drivers that fuel growth and competitive advantages, and customers are investing accordingly, creating opportunities across the Dell portfolio.

是的,是的。我完全同意。现在,让我们想想这对戴尔意味着什么。这意味着,客户普遍去找戴尔说:“嘿,我们不太在乎成本。”当然,显然有一些限制,但企业业务,这有点多余,企业会去找戴尔说:“我们想要AI服务器在我们的业务中。

帮我们设置好。我们不想自己去买显卡。我们不想雇工程师来构建运行它的软件。你给我们软件,给我们硬件,插上电,然后告诉我我有一个AI数据服务器。”戴尔会为你做到这一点。这就是酷的地方。

Yeah. Yeah. I totally totally agree. Now, let's think about what that means for Dell. What that means is across the board, you have customers going to Dell saying, "Hey, we don't really care what it costs." I mean, there's obviously some limit, but enterprise businesses, that's a little redundant, businesses are going to Adele and they're saying, "We want AI servers in our business. Help us set them up. We don't want to go buy the graphics card ourselves. We don't want to hire the engineers to build the software to run it. you give us the software, you give us the hardware, plug it in, and tell me I have an AI data server. Dell will do that for you. And that's what's kind of cool.

现在,CEO表示他们存在零星的CPU短缺以及磁盘驱动器短缺。他们预计到2030年,所有数据中心需求的75%将是人工智能。我实际上不认为这是一个问题,主要是因为我认为我们只是在从普通服务器过渡到一种基本上可以处理AI和非AI任务的服务器。这有点像下一代服务器,对吧?

Now, the CEO says they have spotty CPU shortages uh and shortages with disk drives as well. They expect that 75% of all data center demand will be artificial intelligence by 2030. I don't actually see that as an issue mostly because I think we're just kind of transitioning away from a normal server to a server that can basically do AI and nonAI tasks. It's just sort of like the next generation server, right?

他们说下半年会比上半年更强劲。我认为这在一定程度上解释了季度环比增长率的放缓。我认为这种季度环比增长率,不是同比,而是与上一季度相比,有点奇怪。实际上只增长了大约1%。好吧,随便。这确实是我发现的少数几个危险信号之一。

Uh they say here the second half they think will be even stronger than the first half. I think that's a little bit of explaining for that slowdown in the quarter overquarter growth rate. I think that quarter overquarter growth rate like not year-over-year but comparing to last quarter was a little weird. like really only grew to what 1%. Okay, whatever. Uh that like really one of the few red flags I found.

他们说,对于较旧的第14代服务器及更早的服务器,有一个大的更新换代机会。然后,财年盈利预测低了42%。这实际上有助于我们看待估值。基本面分析最难的地方在于,你必须将你对增长的预期与分析师的预测进行比较。分析师可能高估,也可能低估。这显然是问题所在。

Uh big refresh opportunity they say for older 14th generation servers and before that. Uh and then uh you know the fiscal year forecast for earnings were 42% too low. And that actually helps us look at evaluation. And this is the hardest thing about fundamental analysis is you kind of have to compare your expectations for growth to what analysts are projecting. And analysts can be wrong to the upside, they could be wrong to the downside. This is obviously the problem with that.

所以,如果我们根据分析师的预期来看这家公司目前的情况,它的增长率约为16.3,市盈率约为……让我们看看,如果我们取年底的1910,现在修正后的数字,那将我们置于大约24倍。所以,目前我们的交易价格大约在……

除以16.3,实际上市盈率仅为约1.4。49的PEG比率。这是在最近这些财报公布之后。所以,这个数字确实给戴尔的底线带来了一些有意义的变化。

So if we look at where this company sits right now based on analyst expectations, it's sitting at a growth rate of about 16.3 with a price to earnings ratio of about uh let's see if we take 1910 for the end of the year. Now revised numbers that puts us at about uh 24 times. So right now we're trading for somewhere around divided by 16.3 actually trading for only about 1.4. 49 on a PEG ratio. That's after these last earning sets uh come in. So this number really drove some meaningful change to that that Dell bottom line.

所以,我将根据目前预测的每股收益来修改这个。我们有19或……我就写下来。我们有1910,然后分析师预期的增长率为16%。但请记住,如果预测我们的盈利实际上会高出约42%,那么我们可能实际上增长接近23%。

Uh so I'm going to modify this uh in terms of the EPS that's currently projected. We've got 19 or I'm just going to write this down. We've got 19 10 uh and then the growth rate analysts expect 16%. But remember, if the forecast is that we're actually going to be about 42% higher on earnings, then we might actually be growing closer to 23%.

如果我们调整这一点,这家公司的PEG比率突然看起来便宜得多,而且看起来公司有更大的上行潜力。因为如果我现在过来说,好吧,我们假设增长率为23%,我们给1月份的每股收益一个1.4的市盈率与增长比率,我们可能达到的目标价区间在527到615之间。

If we adjust that in, the peg for this company all of a sudden looks a lot more inexpensive and it looks like the company has more potential upside. Because if I now come in here and say, "All right, we're going to say growth is 23%. We're going to give it a 1.4 peg at uh the EPS for the for January. We could potentially get to a price target range between 527 to 615."

现在,关于这一点有非常重要的事情。该目标区间假设我们能够持续超出预期,即从现在到2030年的所有预期都应该上调约42%。这可能过于激进。

Now, there's something really important about that. That target range assumes that we could keep beating estimates that all estimates between now and 2030 should get jacked up by about 42%. That might be too aggressive.

不幸的是,如果你剔除那42%的增长,股票实际上不应该有任何变动,对吧?你可能会认为,根据最新的财报,盈利确实非常好,他们赚了更多的钱,但现在股价已经反映了这一点。

Unfortunately, if you discount away that 42%. The stock shouldn't really go anywhere, right? You kind of suggest with these latest earnings, it's actually earnings were really good. they're making a whole lot more money, but now the stock has already priced that in.

上次我们看戴尔时,觉得他们有点贵。你知道,市场预期更大的增长,而我们得到了。所以,上次我们觉得,天哪,这些盈利和预期真的很低。突然之间,我们得到了这些惊人的盈利。就像股票暴涨,你知道,6%左右。

远超人们的预期。那很棒。现在股价上涨了7%。你大约在455的位置。

The last time we looked at Dell, we're like, ah, they're a little pricey. You know, the markets are expecting bigger growth and we got that. So, last time we're like, man, you know, these earnings, these estimates, they're they're really low. All of a sudden, we get these crazy earnings. It's like stock blows up, you know, 6% or whatever. Blows people's expectations out of the water. That's great. Stocks up now 7%. You're sitting at about 455.

如果我们从技术面来看,我们可以看到我们非常接近这里的顶部。嗯,让我们往下看。我们取2025年的低点,然后快速做个技术分析。如果我取514和6473,锁定它。看看我们现在的位置。

我们实际上是从417这条线反弹的,我们一直在围绕这条线波动。所以,这是一个可靠的反弹点。在这些水平附近买入更可取。

If we look at this on a technical basis, we could see we're pretty dang close to the top over here. Uh let's go down. We'll take the 2025 uh in this case, we'll take the 2025 bottom and we'll just do a quick technical look at it. If I take 514 and 6473 here. Okay, lock that into place. Look at where we're sitting. We're literally jumping off of that 417 line that we've consistently been rubber banding around. So, a durable place to bounce on. More preferable to buy it around these levels.

这是可能的,因为从现在到美联储决议日,市场有点不稳定。也许你又能以折扣价买入它。但另一方面,你真的必须预期那些高增长率才能证明远期估值的合理性。所以也许你认为企业AI会持续更长时间,比超大规模云厂商的AI需求更久。

我不反对这个论点。嗯,我认为存在风险,如果超大规模云厂商的需求消失,硬件领域的所有股票都会下跌,但企业需求可能会持久得多。嗯,所以我喜欢企业支出,

It's possible because the market is a little tenuous between now and Fed day. maybe you'll be able to get a discount for this again. But the flip side is you really have to expect those big growth rates to justify the forward valuation on this. So maybe you do maybe you think enterprise AI is going to last a whole lot longer, boom, a whole lot more than the hyperscaler uh AI demand. I don't disagree with that argument. Uh I think there's a risk that if hyperscaler demand goes away, all socks kind of fall in the hardware space, but enterprise might be a whole lot more durable. Uh, so I like the enterprise spending,

但我要在这里指出,5,我们怎么说?5,这是利润率的下限。1.2的市盈率与增长比率对比1.4的,将我们置于527到615。517到615的最终目标价需要大约23%的平均每股收益增长率。这可能有些泡沫。

but I will make a note here that a five, what do we say? Five, this is on the low end for margins. 1.2 peg versus 1.4 peg puts us out 527 to 615. 517 to 615 uh terminal price target uh requires uh about 23% average EPS growth. That might be frothy.

嗯,企业可能会在未来几年迅速采用AI,但终端增长率能否保持,对吧?因为如果终端增长率最终为10%,那么在这些较低的8%利润率下,我们又会变得非常昂贵。

Uh enterprise might rush to AI the next few years but will terminal growth rates hold up right uh rates hold up because if the terminal growth rate for this ends up at 10%. You know then then we get to really pricey again at these lower 8% margins.

所以总而言之,增长确实超出了预期。是的,现在市场有些紧张,但支出仍在疯狂进行。这对现在来说是好事,而且说实话,也是好事。

So bottom line, growth really beat expectations here. Yes, some nervousness in markets now, but the spend is still going on like crazy. That's good for now and uh honestly good

戴尔的业绩非常出色,他们确实一直在碾压预期。

戴尔的业绩非常出色,他们确实一直在碾压预期。

The Dell Beats are just remarkable. They just keep honestly crushing.

他说在等什么

持续的企业AI需求和利润率保持
他没有说用什么来检验

这个频道对 $DELL 的历次判断

Meet Kevin 在这只股票上共 6 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。

2026-09-01
戴尔刚刚公布了强劲的财报,表明人工智能的过度建设远未结束,这与我们的论点一致,因为我们确实相信来自SpaceX和其他公司的资金将继续流入这个漩涡,无论是Anthropic的IPO还是融资、债务融资等等,这些资金都会不断循环进入这些人工智能硬件公司。
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每股收益为74美元,远超预期的4.92美元。
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我有,让我们看看,戴尔滑入。
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