$FIX

说话者承认过去对FIX的看跌/谨慎立场是错误的,因为低估了人工智能数据中心的需求;该股大幅跑赢其320美元的公允价值估计。

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The Intrinsic Value Podcast发布 2026-08-15 · 8 段内容
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我们可能看到的下行风险,我们当然也可以看到像 Dell 或实际上我们接下来要讨论的公司 Comfort Systems 这样的公司的上行空间。

what we could see to the downside then we can certainly also see to the upside in companies like Dell or actually the next company that we'll talk about which is Comfort Systems.

有点好笑,因为 Dell 和 Comfort Systems,可能 Dell 更是如此,它们是非常无聊的推介。我仍然记得我们坐着讨论 Dell,想着天哪,这是我们看过的最不鼓舞人心的公司之一,而现在这些公司完全碾压了预期。

And it's kind of funny because both Dell and also Comfort Systems probably even more Dell they were pretty boring pitches. I still remember us sitting and discussing Dell and thinking gosh this is one of the least inspiring companies that we have yet looked at and now those are the companies that just completely crushed it.

当你告诉我Comfort Systems在过去一年表现有多好时,我真的很震惊,因为在我们把它搁置之后,我并没有真正密切关注它。但后来我意识到,这当然与人工智能有关。所以,作为背景,Comfort Systems是一家连环收购者,有点像伯克希尔·哈撒韦式的去中心化控股公司,其做法是收购小型区域性承包企业,然后让它们继续运营,而他们则负责后台和资本配置。

I was really shocked when you told me just how well Comfort Systems has done in the last year because I I haven't really been tracking it that closely after we set it aside. But then I realized of course it has to do with AI. And so for context, Comfort Systems is a serial acquirer, kind of a Birkshshire Hathaway style decentralized holding company, which takes the approach of buying small regional contracting businesses and then allows them to keep running things while they handle the back office and the capital allocation.

所以,如果仅仅看有机增长,这看起来确实是一家成熟的企业。然而,即使在2025年初,你实际上已经可以看到一些早期迹象,表明这些人工智能数据中心和半导体工厂在公司业务中所占的份额越来越大,因为Comfort Systems在向数据中心等复杂中心提供暖通空调服务方面确实具有独特的专长。

And so it was really a mature looking business. if you were simply looking at organic growth. However, even in early 2025, you could actually already see that there were some early signs of these AI data centers and semiconductor factories becoming a bigger and bigger share of the company's business because comfort systems is actually uniquely specialized in being able to provide HVAC services to complex centers like data centers.

所以我不认为我有什么遗憾。不是因为我不喜欢赚钱,而是因为影响这项业务的因素如此宏观,我当然对自己预测未来的能力信心不足,尤其是对人工智能这样的东西。所以很明显,我确实误判了我们所处的周期阶段,因为我试图保持谨慎,对吧?

我想真正对冲我们可能接近人工智能支出周期尾声的可能性,但看起来我们绝对还没有。

So I don't think I have any regrets. Not because I don't like making money, but more because the factors shaping this business are so macro and I of course have very little confidence in my ability to predict the future and especially not with something like AI. So clearly I did misjudge the stage of the cycle that we were in as I tried to be cautious, right? I wanted to to really hedge against the possibility that we were nearing the end of the AI spending cycle, which it seems like we absolutely have not.

如果那发生了,而且当它最终发生时,Comfort Systems将受到双重打击,收入增长下降,然后市盈率也会随之下降。所以,我不认为25倍市盈率便宜,但我不能撒谎,看看今天的价格,确实感觉有点超现实。

我做了大约每股320美元的公允价值估计,而且,我自豪地说,在安全边际下,我会乐于在290美元或以下买入股票。而今天股价在1700美元。

And if that had occurred and when it does eventually occur, Comfort Systems will take a double hit from revenue growth declining and then the multiple declining too as a response to that. So, I didn't think it was cheap at a 25 times multiple, but I can't lie, looking at the price today, it does feel a little surreal. Uh, I did my fair value estimate at around $320 per share, and, you know, I proudly said with a margin of safety, I would be happy to buy shares at maybe $290 or below. And, uh, the stock is trading at $1,700 today.

但看看Comfort Systems,这很有趣。我的意思是,引用当时的投资决策,在320美元到340美元之间,你可能只会获得平均回报。任何远高于此的价格都有获得低于平均回报的风险。

嗯,15个月后,5倍之后,可以肯定地说股东们做得相当好。

But looking at comfort system, it's just funny. I mean, to quote the investment decision from back then, between $320 and $340, you're probably just going to get an average return. and any price much higher than that risks earning a below average return. Well, 15 months later and a 5x later, it's safe to say that shareholders did quite well.

我可能会猜测Comfort Systems也有点超前了。但我不想再错一次。

I would probably guess that Comfort Systems has gotten a little ahead of itself, too. But I don't want to be wrong twice now.

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2026-08-28看跌
好的,这让我们来到今天最后的连环收购者,Comfort Systems。我可以先开始,因为我最初在播客上向我们的同事丹尼尔推荐了Comfort Systems。非常有趣的公司。
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我们可能看到的下行风险,我们当然也可以看到像 Dell 或实际上我们接下来要讨论的公司 Comfort Systems 这样的公司的上行空间。
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