KTOS估值偏高,并不便宜;只有当价格跌至约24美元时才可能考虑买入。
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那么,这里发生了什么,你如何可能参与其中,以及Kratos,即股票Kratos,Ktos,与这一切有什么关系?
So, what's going on here and how could you potentially play this and what is Kratos, the stock Kratos, Ktos, have anything to do with all of this?
不管怎样,你明白我的意思。防御正在增长。而这就是Kratos真正发挥作用的地方。因此,我们将对Kratos进行基本面分析,看看他们到底在开发什么,以及这如何应用于正在进行的这场竞赛。
Uh uh Whatever, you know what I'm saying. It is uh so, the defenses are growing. Uh and that's where Kratos actually comes into play. And so, we're going to do a fundamental analysis on Kratos to see exactly what they're developing and how this applies to exactly this race that's going on.
你可以在Kratos的财报电话会议中看到,第四季度很重要,因为这个项目,我们获得了资金。能源部正在寻找公司来帮助保护核资产。他们正在开发一种移动和可运输的系统,Kratos是负责整个系统运行的主要承包商,包括定向能武器。
目标是低成本拦截这些无人机,而这些技术刚刚开始提升,并将在2027年持续提升。
You can see here in the Kratos uh earnings call, Q4 is important because of this program, we got funding for it. The Department of Energy is looking for companies to help secure nuclear assets. They're developing a mobile and transportable system where Kratos is the prime contractor responsible for the entire system working, including the directed energy weapons. Where the goal is to intercept these drones at a low low cost, and these technologies are just now ramping and ramping into 2027.
尽管这些预计将使用中国喷气发动机。所以,他们放了一个小型中国喷气发动机在上面,Kratos认为他们将要拥有的最大增长垂直领域之一是喷气发动机。
Uh although these are expected to use Chinese jet engines. So, they put a small Chinese jet engine on it, which Kratos thinks one of the biggest growth verticals they're going to have is jet engines.
现在,让我坦诚地说。我对国防承包商或Kratos没有任何敞口。所以,我不是在试图推销这只股票,因为就像我投资于……我们现在只是在研究这个,我们发现这非常有趣。
Now, let me just be transparent. I don't have any exposure to the defense contractors or Kratos. So, I'm not trying to like shill the stock cuz like I'm investing in We're just looking at this now and and studying this and we find this very interesting.
这些Kaman 4不是真正可捕获的无人机。它们太快了。这就产生了一个问题,而这就是Kratos说“我们可能正在研究一个潜在的解决方案”的地方。
These Kaman 4s are not really catchable drones. They're just too fast. Uh and so that creates an issue and that's where Kratos is like, "We might be working on a potential solution."
Kratos,说到以色列人,刚刚收购了一家以色列公司,名为Orbit Technologies Limited。他们是为无人机公司提供卫星通信的公司,也用于导弹。他们特别指出,“为移动和无人驾驶的空中、海上、水下和陆地系统以及其他系统提供关键任务卫星通信的全球领先供应商。”其他系统可能像火箭。
Uh Kratos, speaking of Israelis, just acquired a company that was an Israeli company called Orbit Technologies Limited. And they are a SATCOMs for drones companies uh for UAVs but also for missiles. They specifically say, "Leading global provider of mission critical critical satellite-based communications for mobile and unmanned aerial, seaborn, undersea, and land systems as well as other systems." Other systems are probably like rockets.
所以,如果我们看一下Kratos的财报电话会议,他们在这里谈到了一些非常有趣的事情。让我们尽可能关闭所有这些小侧边栏。我会保留书签。这是定向能方面,他们有一份1.5亿美元的合同,用于反无人机或系统,作为太阳盾计划的一部分。
So, if we look at the earnings call for Kratos, there's some really interesting things that they talk about here. Let's close all these little sidebars out here as much as we can. I'll leave the bookmarks open. Uh so, this is the directed energy side and they have a $150 million contract for counter uh unmanned aerial vehicles or systems called the as part of the solar shield program.
所以,如果我现在直接进入Kratos给出的一些暗示。看看这个。一位分析师询问无人系统和这些无人驾驶无人机系统的指导。总裁兼首席执行官说了以下内容:“我们必须非常小心,因为客户。
所以,我们不能深入细节,因为那会泄露我们在做什么。我们的高超音速业务,基本上是发动机业务,以及太空业务,这些业务正在蓬勃发展。但是,在无人机方面,我们将非常谨慎,我们可能无法报告,直到我们发货并且它出现在数字中。
即使到那时,我们可能也无法多说,但你会知道它是什么。”
So, if I now just jump into some of the hints that Kratos gives. Look at this. An analyst asks about unmanned systems and guidance on these unmanned drone systems. And the president and CEO says the following, "We have to be very careful here because of the customer. So, we can't get into too much detail on this because then it will give away what we're doing. Our hypersonics business, the engine business basically, and the space business, those businesses are ripping. But, on the on the drone side, we're going to be very cautious and we not may not be able to report it until we ship it and it shows up in the numbers. And even then, we may not be able to say much about it, but you're going to know what it is."
这是一个非常明显的暗示,在未来一年里,Kratos预计将大幅增加无人机武器或Valkyries或发动机系统的交付,以帮助支持轰炸行动或其他行动。
This is a really big nudge nudge wink wink that over the next year Kratos is really expected to take explode their deliveries of drone either weapons or Valkyries or um engine systems to help enable bombing campaigns or otherwise.
看看这个。Kratos最近正在提供Spartan J85发动机。这些是他们生产的涡轮风扇发动机,以支持波音的JDAM生产合同。所以,换句话说,波音正在联系Kratos说:“嘿,你们能为我们的导弹项目提供这些喷气发动机吗,基本上是与国防部合作?”
And take a look at this. Kratos recently uh Kratos is providing Spartan J85 engines. Those are their turbofan engines that they produce to support Boeing's JDAM production contract. So, in other words, Boeing is hitting up Kratos saying, "Hey, can you guys help supply these jet engines for our missile program, basically, with the Department of Defense?"
现在,Kratos是一家非常小的公司,市值不到100亿美元。他们还生产Valkyrie飞机。那就在这里的某个地方。我想我相信是这个。这是他们的空中……但我相信这是Valkyrie,但我不确定。
但无论如何,他们有一个Valkyrie飞机系统。哦,在这里。是XQ-58 Alpha。是的,是的,好吧,那是Valkyrie。那是Valkyrie。Valkyrie,这些东西每件售价在300万到1000万美元之间。
Now, Kratos is a very small company, less than $10 billion company. They also produce the uh the Valkyrie aircraft. That's somewhere in here. I think I believe that's this. This is under their their air, but I believe this is the Valkyrie, but I'm not sure. But anyway, they've got a Valkyrie uh aircraft system. Uh oh, here it is. It's the XQ-58 Alpha. Yeah, yeah, okay, it was the Valkyrie. That was the Valkyrie. The Valkyrie, these things trade for somewhere between 3 to 10 million dollars a piece.
我认为Kratos的数字真正有趣的是,如果你只看Valkyrie的生产,就在这里,他们认为每年可以生产大约40架。如果我假设每架Valkyrie的中位价格为600万美元,每年40架乘以600万将是2.4亿美元的年度潜在收入。
那是年度潜在收入。他们上个季度只生产了约590万美元的Valkyrie收入。所以,是他们业务中非常非常小的一部分。他们目前的产品销售额每季度约为2.37亿美元。所以,仅此一项就可能使他们的季度收入或一个季度的产品收入翻倍。
所以,让我把它画出来,以免混淆。200,你知道,大约4000万,他们现在一个季度从产品中赚取的。一整年2.4亿美元的Valkyrie销售额基本上会使一个季度翻倍,或者每年为他们的产品方面增加25%。
这是有趣的统计数据,有趣的思考方式。但是,这有点像业务中的一个小看涨期权。
And what I think is really interesting about the Kratos numbers is that if you just look at Valkyrie production alone, right here, they think they can get to about 40 of these produced per year. If I assume a sort of midpoint of $6 million per Valkyrie, 40 per year times 6 million would be $240 million of annual potential revenue. That's annual potential revenue. Uh they only produced about $5.9 million Valkyrie revenue uh last quarter. So, very, very small portion of their business. Uh their product sales right now sit at about 237 per quarter. So, that alone would potentially double their quarterly revenue uh or or a quarter's product revenue. So, let me just draw that out to be really clear to not be confusing. 200, you know, 40-ish mill, roughly what they make from products in one quarter right now. A full year of 240 million Valkyrie sales would basically, you know, double one quarter or add 25%, you know, to their product side per year. It's interesting stat, interesting way to think about it. But, this is sort of like a smaller call option in the business.
他们现在真正赚钱的地方似乎是Spartan发动机。他们称之为最大的单一机会之一,预计将销售数万个这样的系统。目前,我们计划初步订购3000台Spartan涡轮喷气发动机。我们预计在2028年再生产5000台。
每台价值约5万美元。所以,如果你在2028年生产5000台,每台5万美元,那个我一直在用的小计算器没有足够的零来处理这个。5000乘以50,把我带到这个数字。1 2 3 200 那就是另外2.5亿美元,仅仅来自喷气发动机。
Where they really seem to make a lot of money right now is on the Spartan engine. They call it one of the single largest opportunities with tens of thousands of those systems expected to be sold. Right now, we're planning initial orders of 3,000 Spartan turbo jet engines. We expect to produce an additional 5,000 in 2028. Each of them worth about $50,000. So, if you do 5,000 in 2028 at uh 50,000 of them, uh that little calculator I was using does not have enough zeros for this. 5,000 times 50, that puts me at this number. 1 2 3 200 That's another 250 million right there, just from the jet engines.
所以,你确实有增长垂直领域,不仅来自这些喷气发动机,不仅来自Valkyrie无人机,还有反无人机技术,他们暗示我们现在不能真正告诉你,但你会在我们的数字中看到。
So, you really have growth verticals coming from not just these jet engines, not just the Valkyrie UAV, but then also the de-droning technology, which they're like nudge nudge hint hint hint we can't really tell you about it right now, but you'll see it in our numbers.
有趣的是,就像埃隆·马斯克正在谈论进入制造喷气发动机部件一样。对于埃隆的目的,那些将是涡轮燃气发动机,以持续运行来为数据中心供电。
Interestingly, much like how Elon Musk is talking about getting into making components for jet engines. For Elon's purposes, those would be turbine gas engines uh to run continuously to power data centers.
在这里,Kratos在俄克拉荷马州有一个Blade Works设施,他们最近在那里破土动工,以帮助生产这些涡轮风扇。他们的高超音速业务有望从2025年到2026年翻一番。他们预计他们的Kratos发动机业务将成为公司历史上最大和增长最快的业务。
Here, Kratos has a Blade Works facility in Oklahoma where they've recently broken ground to help produce these turbo fans. Their hypersonics business is on pace to double from 2025 to 2026. And they expect their Kratos engine business to be the largest and fastest growing in the company's history.
所以,那是他们的期望,特别是因为中国和俄罗斯正在深入发展高超音速导弹。记住我们这里有什么。中国为俄罗斯在乌克兰使用的那些喷气发动机无人机提供喷气发动机。大生意。所以,这里有一个小市值公司,正在做这种垂直的信息和产品。
So, that's their expectation, especially since uh China and Russia are going deep on hypersonic missiles. And remember what we have right here. China supplying jet engines for those jet engine drones that Russia is using against Ukraine. Big business. So, here's a small market cap company that's doing exactly this sort of vertical of information of of product.
问题在这里。他们有负的自由现金流。我们预计平均每年大约负1亿美元的现金流,尽管这个季度他们已经大约负4700万。那是很多,所以可能甚至更多。预测的负自由现金流是负9500万。可能比那更多。
Here's the problem. They have negative free cash flow. We're expecting somewhere around negative 100 million dollars of cash flow per year on average, though this quarter they were sitting at about negative 47 already. That's a lot, so it might even be more. Forecast negative free cash flow is negative 95 million. It might be more than that.
他们的资产负债表目前尚可,因为他们筹集了大量资金。他们发行了大量股票,筹集了大量资金,因此他们拥有约10亿美元的自由现金流。10亿美元的自由现金流。所以,如果每年投入2亿美元的资本支出,他们基本上有5年的资本支出预算。
所以,这相当不错。你知道,他们拥有不错的资产负债表,长期债务方面较低。
Their balance sheet is okay now because they raised a bunch of money. They issued a bunch of stock, they raised a bunch of money, so they have about a billion bucks free of free cash flow. 1 billion of free cash flow. So, if you take 200 mil of CapEx per year, they have 5 years of CapEx budget, basically. So, that's pretty good. You know, they've they've got a decent balance sheet, low on the long-term debt side.
营收增长,整体增长约22.8%。我预计毛利润增长约21%,这表明他们的利润率相对稳定。我们有这些信息,然后问题在于估值。公司目前的估值有点偏高。按照他们预期的未来利润率,即净利润率,我的意思是,他们目前的净利润率低得可怜。
他们的净利润是11.9/371。目前净利润率为3.2%。因此,预测的利润率将他们置于接近12%至13%的水平。这实际上意味着他们合理的市盈率与盈利增长比率约为1.3。所以,他们很贵。他们不便宜。
Revenue growth, overall growing about 22.8%. I've got gross profit coming up about 21% suggesting that their margins are relatively stable. We have got the carp information, and then here's the problem, valuation. Valuation of the company is a little bit rich right now. It at at the future margins, the net margins they expect, I mean, their net margin right here is shamefully low. Their net income is 11.9 / 371. Net margin 3.2% right now. So, forecast margins put them at close to 12 to 13%. That really means they justify about a 1.3 PEG. So, they are expensive. They are not cheap.
你可以,我的意思是,目前他们以软件公司的倍数交易。所以,如果我们调出Stock AI工具,我们会看到目前Stock AI工具告诉我们这家公司处于较贵的一侧。
You can I mean, right now they're trading for software multiples. So, if we pull up the Stock AI tool, we're going to see that right now the Stock AI tool is telling us this company is on the more expensive side.
你可以看到我们激活了右上角的小终端标签。我们将输入Kratos。我们可以看到这里的资产负债表评级很高。我同意这一点。定价权、利润率稳定,所以那里相当中性。移动平均线,股价已经有所下跌。
但估值确实很高,所以我们在估值上有一个红旗。因此,我们预计它实际上会说这里有一个负的预测回报率。所以,当我们打开这个,果然,在那里,股价潜在预测为-62%。这将其降至公司的公允价值。目前,它非常昂贵。
And you can see we got the little terminal tab activated at the top right there. We're going to type in Kratos. And we can see here the balance sheet is rated heavily. I would agree with that. Pricing power, margins are stable, so it's pretty neutral there. Moving average, the stock has come down a little bit. But the valuation is really high, so we have a red flag on valuation. So, we're going to expect that it's actually going to say you have a negative forecast rate of return here. So, when we open this up, sure enough, there it is, -62% potential forecast on the stock price. That's bringing it down to a fair valuation for the company. Right now, it's very pricey.
而且它经历了一次巨大的波动。让我们在周线图上缩小一点。看看它经历的爆炸性上涨。它确实像模因股一样飙升。他们在模因股反弹期间筹集了资金,这非常完美。漂亮。从模因股挤压中筹集资金。但现在他们正在回归现实。
And it's gone through one heck of a a move here. Let's go zoom out for a moment on the week chart. Take a look at that explosion that it had. It really meme rallied. And they raised money during the meme rally, which was perfect. Beautiful. Raise money from the meme squeeze. But now they're coming back down to reality.
坦率地说,如果股价跌到大约24美元,这可能是一个买入机会。因为那将是一个技术性回撤。而且它将与股票标签为这家公司提供的公允价值估计非常接近。
And uh frankly, this could be a buy if it came down to about 24 bucks. Uh because that would be a technical retracement. And it would really closely align with the fair value estimate that the stock tab has for this company.
现在,如果你向下滚动浏览这家公司,你可以自动看到我们拥有的很多信息。这是一个Meet Kevin应用。你可以在这里看到很多信息,比如高超音速业务翻倍,可能超过7亿美元,明年几乎再次翻倍,喷气发动机的单位经济效益。
Uh now, if you scroll down through this company, you can actually automatically see a lot of the information that we have. This is a Meet Kevin app. Uh you can see a lot of the information here, such as that doubling of the hypersonic business to potentially over 700 million, almost to double again next year, the unit economics on the jet engine.
但对我来说,这种国防方面的股票投资短期内不会消失,主要是因为世界不幸地正在重新军事化。
But this to me this sort of defense side of stock investing isn't going anywhere anytime soon, mostly because the world is unfortunately remilitarizing.
然后,还有Kratos,一家大约90亿美元的初创公司,为炸弹和无人机制造发动机。太高兴了,Kevin。太高兴了。不,我与Kratos没有关联。没有被Kratos付费。我没有投资Kratos。
And then, there's Kratos, a little $9 billion startup making engines for bombs and drones. Too happy, Kevin. Too happy. No, I'm not I'm not I'm not associated with Kratos. Uh not paid by Kratos. I'm not investing in Kratos.
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