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Nebius 获得高盛上调评级。它现在是一家市值 590 亿美元的公司。作为一家 NeoCloud 公司,它的规模还很小。尽管较 300 美元的峰值已下跌约 27%。

Nebus gets an upgrade from Goldman. It's now a $ 59 billion company. It's pretty small as a NeoCloud. Still down from peak of $300 by oh about 27ish% down from peak.

这是关于 Nebius 的报告。我想……我认为这是高盛关于 Nebius AI 基础设施需求持续强劲的评论。请记住,Nebius 刚刚宣布与英伟达达成 Grock 合作伙伴关系。

所以 Nebius 正在为 Ultra Fast Tokens 提供首批 Grock 生产芯片,对吧?这就是你对标 Cerebras 的情况。

So this was the note on Nebas. This uh I want to I think this was Goldman latest commentary on continued strong demand for Nebius AI infrastructure. Now keep in mind Nebius just had the uh Gro partnership announced with Nvidia. So Nebius uh is providing the first Grock uh production chips uh production chips for ultra fast tokens, right? That's your cerebrous comparison.

具有竞争力的客户订单和稳健的定价强化了需求可见性。管理层指出,第二季度营收受益于更高的利用率、更高利润率的轻资产产品(包括 Token Factory)的贡献增长以及近期的收购。

更重要的是,公司将需求描述为异常强劲,并在本季度获得了四个里程碑式的十亿美元合同,所有这些合同都是通过竞争赢得的。客户原本已有现有供应商,但选择了 Nebius 来满足下一代需求,诸如此类。

Competitive customer wins and robust pricing reinforce demand visibility. Management indicated that Q2 revenue benefited from higher utilization, growing contribution from higher margin asset light offerings including token factory and recent acquisitions. Uh more importantly, company characterized demand as exceptionally strong and four landmark billion dollar contracts secured during the quarter, all of which were competitive wins. Customers already had incumbent suppliers but selected Nebius for nextgen requirements, blah blah blah.

该公司形容需求异常强劲,并在本季度获得了四份具有里程碑意义的十亿美元合同,所有这些都是通过竞争赢得的。客户已有现有供应商,但选择了Nebius来满足下一代需求,诸如此类。

company characterized demand as exceptionally strong and four landmark billion dollar contracts secured during the quarter, all of which were competitive wins. Customers already had incumbent suppliers but selected Nebius for nextgen requirements, blah blah blah.

让我看看。第二季度达成的交易每吉瓦超过 200 亿美元,回收期不到两年。这实际上非常好。呃,让我看看。我该怎么做?打开……就像我希望Windows上有PDF Expert这款应用一样。

好吧,让我看看。识别文本。识别。现在扫描提取应该不难了。好吧。它实际上做得不太好。不,还行。是的。好吧。不,没问题。没问题。好吧。这很好。第二季度完成的交易超过200亿美元/吉瓦,或2000万美元/兆瓦,且预计不到两年的回收期将在第四季度末开始贡献收入。

这非常好。没关系。这是什么?此外,商业条款依然强劲,Nebius正在谈判更短期限的容量协议,价格在40到50之间,这应该会促进营收等等。好吧,所以这一点很重要需要考虑。让我们看看。

让我看看能不能插入一页,因为这就是建设规模成为关注点的地方。

Uh let's see here. deals closed in Q2 at over 20 billion per gigawatt with a sub two-year payback period. That's actually really good. Uh let me see here. How am I going to do this? Open with It's like the one app that I wish they had on Windows is PDF Expert. Okay, let's see here. Recognize text. Recognize. Shouldn't be hard these days anymore to scan that out. All right. It actually didn't do that great of a job. No, it's okay. Yeah. Okay. No, it's fine. It's fine. All right. This is This is good. Deals closed in Q2 at over 20 billion a gigawatt or 20 million a megawatt and sub two-year payback period are expected to begin contributing late Q4. That's very good. It's okay. What is this? Moreover, commercial terms also remain firm with Nebius negotiating shorter duration capacity agreements uh at the 40 to 50 range which should uh contribute to topline um you know revenue blah blah blah. Okay, so this is kind of important to consider. So let's see here. Let me see if I can insert a page because this this is where the the buildout becomes the concern.

第二季度达成的交易每吉瓦超过 200 亿美元,或每兆瓦 2000 万美元,且回收期不到两年,预计将在第四季度末开始贡献业绩。这非常好。

Deals closed in Q2 at over 20 billion a gigawatt or 20 million a megawatt and sub two-year payback period are expected to begin contributing late Q4. That's very good.

此外,商业条款依然稳固,Nebius 正在谈判 40 到 50 范围内的短期容量协议,这应该有助于推动营收增长,诸如此类。

Moreover, commercial terms also remain firm with Nebius negotiating shorter duration capacity agreements uh at the 40 to 50 range which should uh contribute to topline um you know revenue blah blah blah.

短期短缺需求定价在此重申为每吉瓦400亿至500亿美元。但短缺定价并非长期定价,而且在我看来,以短期价格实际能生产多少或提供多少是有限度的。

Uh let's do like 28. There we go. Okay. So, um short-term pricing uh for shortage demand reiterated here at 40 to 50 billion per gigawatt. Uh but uh shortage pricing isn't long-term pricing and uh there's a limit uh in my opinion how much you can actually uh make um or how much you could actually provide at short-term prices. So, um short-term pricing uh for shortage demand reiterated here at 40 to 50 billion per gigawatt. Uh but uh shortage pricing isn't long-term pricing and uh there's a limit uh in my opinion how much you can actually uh make um or how much you could actually provide at short-term prices.

但短缺定价并非长期定价,而且在我看来,以短期价格实际能生产多少或提供多少是有限度的。这就是我们要关注SpaceX的原因,对吧?这对SpaceX和整个周期都很重要。

Uh but uh shortage pricing isn't long-term pricing and uh there's a limit uh in my opinion how much you can actually uh make um or how much you could actually provide at short-term prices. This is what we want to watch for SpaceX, right? This matters for SpaceX and the entire cycle.

所以如果我们在20,我会说这相当不错。如果这是20,没问题;如果这是50;然后假设这里是8。好的。然后这边是低于8。低于8会变得令人担忧衰退。20很好,目前看来可能也是现实的,除非Anthropic崩盘。

而30到50这个区间是Elon的目标。好的。我就把它写在这里。然后50,50是辉煌的。好的。规模化的50是辉煌的。AI交易繁荣持续。可能需要AGI、机器人技术或其他真正使前沿需求飙升的东西。所以,我认为这不太可能……

So if we are I will say 20 is pretty good. So if this is 20 okay and this is 50 and then let's say this is eight. Okay. And then this is you know sub eight over here. Sub8 sub 8 uh gets recession scary. Uh 20 is 20 is great and likely realistic uh for now unless uh anthropic rolls over and uh 50 this 30 to 50 range 30 to 50 range is Elon's target. Okay. So, I'll just sort of write that right here. And then 50 50 is glorious. Okay. 50 50 scaled up is glorious. Uh AI trade booms keeps going. Probably requires AGI or robotics or something that really um skyrockets Frontier demand, you know. So, so this I think is unlikely you know

我会说20相当不错。如果这是20,没问题;如果这是50;然后假设这里是8。好的。然后这边是低于8。低于8会变得令人担忧衰退。

I will say 20 is pretty good. So if this is 20 okay and this is 50 and then let's say this is eight. Okay. And then this is you know sub eight over here. Sub8 sub 8 uh gets recession scary.

20很好,目前看来可能也是现实的,除非Anthropic崩盘。30到50这个区间是Elon的目标。50是辉煌的。好的。规模化的50是辉煌的。AI交易繁荣持续。可能需要AGI、机器人技术或其他真正使前沿需求飙升的东西。

20 is great and likely realistic uh for now unless uh anthropic rolls over this 30 to 50 range 30 to 50 range is Elon's target. 50 50 is glorious. Okay. 50 50 scaled up is glorious. Uh AI trade booms keeps going. Probably requires AGI or robotics or something that really um skyrockets Frontier demand, you know.

所以,我认为这不太可能。我会说50在短期内是可能的,但对于更大的合同,在我看来,未来的大型合同不太可能达到50。我知道Google与SpaceX达成了一笔这样的交易。30也会很棒。

So, so this I think is unlikely you know I I would call this 50 uh 50 you know possible in short term but for larger contracts uh not likely in my opinion uh for for larger future contracts like I know Google on SpaceX pulled one off uh 30 would be great as well.

所以我认为该定价非常重要,关键在于长期合同的最终定价会是多少。这确实给我们提供了一些洞察。我还注意到他们在这里说Nebius正在该区间内进行谈判。看这里,他们说成交价格在略高于……

嗯,我们不知道是略高于还是什么。但我认为这种措辞真的很有趣。

So that pricing is I think very important is like where do we end up with with that pricing for longerterm contracts. This does give us a little bit of insight. I do also note that they say here Nebius is negotiating in this range. See here they said deals closed at just over. Well, we don't know if it's just over or what. Uh but I think that's really interesting wording.

他们以20的价格成交,并以40的价格进行短期谈判。这是一个有意义的差异。

that uh they closed deals at 20 and are negotiating short-term at 40. That's a meaningful difference.

产能建设加速,支撑更快的电力采购。预计第二季度末部署的产能将在第三季度开始贡献收入,结合现有的客户承诺和资本投资,为2026年的建设提供了可见性。

Capacity buildout accelerating, underpinning faster uh power procurement. Capacity deployed late Q2 is expected to begin contributing to revenue in Q3 with existing customer commitments and capital investments, providing visibility into the 2026 buildout.

为2027年大幅提高部署做准备。到目前为止,AI交易进展顺利。重要的是,Nebius将故意保留部分2027年的产能,而不是现在签约。为什么?这反映了管理层对未来定价的信心。这听起来像是胡说八道。

preparations for materially higher deployment in 2027. So far so good for the AI trade. Importantly, Nebius will deliberately retain some 2027 capacity rather than contracting it today. Why? Reflecting management's confidence in future pricing. That sounds like bull crap.

这听起来像是他们在等待那些40到50的合同,对吧?怎么回事?是的,我认为这正是发生的情况。这对我来说真的没有意义,为什么要这样做。如果你坐拥产能,心想“哦,我们只是故意囤积它以获得更高的定价”,那些客户完全可以去找别人。

然后最终他们可能会做到这一点,你知道,现在我们仍然处于某种短缺状态。

That sounds like they're holding out for um those 40 to 50 contracts, right? Like what? That that's Yeah, I think that's exactly what's going on here. That doesn't really make sense to me why you would why you would do that. If you're sitting on capacity and you're like, "Oh, we're just going to purposfully squat on it to get higher pricing. You're those people, those customers could just go to somebody else." Then potentially eventually they will be able to, you know, now they're still we're still in a bit of a shortage.

转向Bloom燃料电池预计将从社区角度提升该项目。这是什么?哦,这是新泽西州Vinland,今年夏天早些时候完工的建筑。哦,所以他们已经有燃料电池了。哦,那很酷。所以Nebius也在使用Bloom燃料电池。

预计将从社区角度提升该项目,提供低排放的可靠电力,使Nebius能够解锁并加快未来的站点开发。

The switch to Bloom fuel cells is expected to enhance the project from a community perspective. What is this? Oh, this is Vinland, New Jersey building completed earlier this summer. Oh, so they already have the fuel cells. Oh, that's cool. So, Nebius is using the Bloom fuel cells as well. Expected to enhance the project from a community perspective, providing reliable power with low emissions, allowing Nebius to unlock and expedite future site development.

管理层指出,预计2026年将部署更多产能,公司已获得数百兆瓦表后发电设施的接入权。嗯,那很好。Nebius将其目标上调至在2026财年拥有5吉瓦(gawatt)的合同电力,此前为4吉瓦,原因是其锁定电力的速度持续快于预期。

management noted significantly more capacity is expected to be deployed in 2726 with the company securing access to hundreds of megawatts of behind the meter uh generation. Well, that's good. Nebius upgraded its target to have 5 gawatt versus 4 gawatt prior of contracted power by fiscal 26 given it continues to secure power faster than expectations.

我认为这一点非常有趣。记住,Sachs的观点是政治因素会拖慢数据中心建设。我不这么认为。我觉得他们能够找到确切的位置,以尽可能快的速度建造这些设施。

See this is what I thought is very interesting. Remember uh the Sachs argument is oh politics is going to slow down data centers. I don't think so. I think they'll be able to go and and find exactly where they're going to be able to um you know build these as fast as possible.

最后,该公司正在其GPU集群中增加ARM和CPU部署,以应对新的代理式AI工作负载。

Finally, the company is adding ARM and CPU deployments along its GPU fleet to address new agentic AI workloads.

Nebi强调了多种可用于为其增长提供资金的资本来源,首先是经营现金流。嗯,这可能来自存款。现金流可能等于存款。

Nebi has highlighted multiple sources of capital available to fund its growth, beginning with operating cash flow. Well, that's probably coming from deposits. Cash flow probably equals deposits.

第二季度的合同。哦,那相当不错。第二季度的合同覆盖了相关资本支出的50%到60%,管理层的目标也是如此。这很好。

Q2 contracts. Oh, well that's pretty good. Q2 contracts cover 50 60% of the associated capex and management targeting for the That's good.

第二季度70%的交易包含预付款。是的,就是这样。由此产生了90亿美元的预付资本。长期合同为资产支持融资提供了基础。Nibbia获得了一笔7.75亿美元的资产支持融资额度,由合同现金流、公司债务和股权挂钩的融资来源提供支持。

70% of deals in Q2 included upfront payments. Yeah, there you go. Resulting in 9 billion of upfront uh capital. Long-term contracts provide the basis for assetback financing. Nibbia secured $775 million assetback facility backed by contracted cash corporate debt and equity linked financing sources.

嗯,所以这基本上是发行股票和债务。发行股票和债务,轻资产模式。

Well, so this is basically issuing stock and debt. Issuing stock and debt asset light model.

更高的利用率继续有利于产品盈利能力。是的,让GPU保持在线的时间更长,得益于基础设施效率的提升和强劲的需求。产能随着上线实际上被售罄。嗯,那很好。

Higher utilization continues to benefit product profitability. Yeah, keeping the GPUs up online more supported by improving infrastructure efficiency, strong demand. The capacity effectively selling out as it comes online. Well, that's good.

展望未来,代理式解决方案预计将在收入中占据越来越大的份额。我并不确信推理需要这些庞大的云。在我看来,对于开源权重模型,推理将大幅转向企业内部进行——想想Mona或者Thomas Reuters在Quen上做的内部部署等等。

Looking ahead, Agentic Solutions are expected to represent an increasing share of revenue. I'm not convinced that you need these massive clouds for for inference. Uh IMO inference ends up moving substantially in-house for companies on openw weight moves uh in-house for openw weight models you know think about the mona uh or Thomas Reuters is doing in-house on Quen uh etc.

MB的新轻资产定价也保持建设性态势。最近的容量拍卖成交价比Blackwell GPU之前的峰值价格高出15%。那是前沿端。所以那大概是前沿端。

MB's new asset light mah pricing also remains constructive. Recent capacity auction clearing 15% above previous peak price for Blackwell GPUs. That's the frontier side. So that's the frontier presumably.

从长远来看,管理层预计Nebia自有数据中心即将上线的产能将从下半年开始有助于利润率改善。

Longerterm management expects capacity coming online at Nebia own data centers to begin contributing to margin improvement for the second half.

调整我们的预测,上调营收。我们给予该公司“买入”评级,目标价为328美元。我很确定这是高盛的观点。是的,高盛。你知道,他们实际上看到了……是的,他们认为这家公司有大约50%的上涨空间。这对高盛来说是很高的预期。

Changes to our estimates increasing topline. We're a buy with a price target of 328 uh for this company. I'm pretty sure this is Goldman. Yeah, Goldman Sachs. So, you know, they actually see quite Yeah, they see like 50% upside on this company. That's that's a lot by from Goldman.

哦,看看那个。Q几乎上涨了一个百分点。我们在7:15有一个96美分的拒绝位,我想。Marll的反弹还在继续。看看那个动能。天哪。正好在我的线上。哦,我们需要把线移高一点。呃,英伟达现在上涨28。

是的,Dick Sporting Goods下跌。我听说他们也在谈论疲软的鞋类销售。是的。所以,这是消费类股票,伙计。就像如果AI是经济繁荣的原因,没有AI我们会陷入衰退,那么我不想投资其他东西,至少对于股市来说是这样。

呃,显然我在房地产上配置更多。但这主要是因为我认为那是你的十年计划,你的2032计划。所以你得早点播种。人们怎么说来着?种树最好的时间是二十年前,其次是现在。不管怎样,呃,好吧。

那么,还有什么?让我们看看。让我们调出实际的Nebius财报股票,看看这家公司是怎么回事。我们也对它做一个技术回撤分析。

Oh, look at that. Q's are almost up a percent. Uh we got a 96 cent rejection, I guess, on uh 7:15. That Marll bounce continues. Look at that juice. Oh my gosh. Right at my line. Oh, the We just need to move the lines higher. Uh, Nvidia up 28 right now. Yeah, Dick Sporting Goods down. I heard they were also talking about weak uh weak shoe sales. Yeah. So, it's uh it's the consumer plays, man. Like I like if if if AI is what's booming the economy when we would be in a recession without AI, then I I don't want to invest in the other stuff uh for for the um uh the stock market at least. Uh obviously much more allocated to real estate. Uh but that's mostly because I think that's your uh that's your 10-year play, your 2032 play. So got you got to plant seeds early. What do they say? Best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. Next best time is now. Anyway, uh okay. So, what else? Let's see here. That's Let's pull up the actual Nebus uh earning stocks and let's see what what this company's on about. Let's also do a technical retracement on it.

让我们调出Nebus实际的盈利股票数据,看看这家公司的情况如何。我们也对它做一个技术回撤分析。所以,我有这个图表。我们现在实际坐在的是延伸线而不是回撤线上。我们在“解放日”期间做了一个类似底部的动作,直到十月份见顶。

即使考虑到最近“Leo”后的抛售,该股表现依然出色。

Let's pull up the actual Nebus uh earning stocks and let's see what what this company's on about. Let's also do a technical retracement on it. So, I've got this guy. These are extension lines that we're actually sitting on right now rather than retracement lines. We did a sort of bottomish during liberation to uh top in October. the stocks perform great even even with this uh you know recent post Leo fold selloff.

好的,Nebius,Nebus,Nebus,Nebus,Nebus的财报。哦等等,这不是10-Q表格。太糟糕了。这是什么?这是一份新闻稿。我不要这种垃圾。我要SEC格式的10-Q报告,按应有的样子。

哦,它是一家外国发行人。他们在哪里注册?这很烂。我讨厌这样。

Okay, so Nebius Nebus Nebus Nebus Nebus in uh earnings report. Oh wait, this is not a 10 Q. That's disgusting. What is that? That is a press release. I don't want that crap. I want the SEC formatted 10 Q the way it's supposed to be. Report. Oh, it's reports a foreign issuer. Where are they based out of? This is lame. I hate that.

所以,他们在8月12日发布了第二季度财务数据。现在你必须通过6-K文件来查找他们的财务申报,这很愚蠢。算了。虽然不理想,但也行。我不抱怨了。找到了。是的,找到了。好吧。下载这份财报。就是这份财报。

So, they released their Q2 financials on August 12th. And so, now you have to find their financial filings as a uh 6K, which is stupid. Whatever. Not as ideal. It's okay. I'll stop complaining. I got it. Yeah, I got it. Okay. So, download and this earnings report. the earnings report.

好了。看看我们有什么。有点兴奋想看看。好嘞。开始了。在这里。是的。让我们从资产负债表开始。这里总是存放BS的地方。明白我的双关语吗?好吧。总流动负债。所以我看到递延收入是275。

我用1527减去275.5。大约有12.5亿美元的账单要付。这是一大笔账单。我们有多少现金?哦,我们的现金状况不错。看那个。37亿美元现金。这相当好。7.2亿美元的应收账款。也不错。

我有长期债务,长期债务为41亿美元。所以,资产负债表还可以,对吧?近期……近期债务,但可能会承担更多的长期债务。不过近期的情况并不糟糕。你知道,就资产负债表而言,他们不像Spirit Airlines那样。对于这家公司来说,资产负债表是良好的。

Alrighty. See what we got. Kind of excited to see it. Okie dokie then. Here we go. Here it is. Yeah. Let's start at their balance sheet. This is always where where the the the BS lives. See what I did there? All right. Total current liabilities. So I've got that's deferred revenue of 275. So I got 1527 minus 275.5. I've got about $1.25 billion in bills to pay. That's a lot of money in bills. How much cash do we have? Oh, we got good cash, though. Look at that. 3.7 billion in cash. That's pretty good. 720 mil in accounts receivable. Also decent. I've got long-term debt, long debt of 4.1 billion. So, the balance sheet is okay, right? Near-term uh near-term deris, but uh will likely take on much more uh long-term debt. But the the near-term isn't that bad. You know, it's not like they're, you know, you know, Spirit Airlines in terms of the balance sheet. The spirit the balance sheet is good for for this company.

好的。我们的现金流量表在哪里?应该就在这里。在那里。现金流。经营活动使用的净现金。所以,哦,等一下。等一下。我在错误的列里。稍等。哦,是的。看那个。那是十二月的数据。所有这些数字都是十二月的。

好吧,那是十二月。记一下这点。我讨厌他们这样做。通常最近的季度在左边。然后你会遇到十分之一想要特立独行的公司。Uh D's 3125。好吧。好吧。好吧。Uh 让我们看看……哇,看那个。

80亿美元现金。所以这是6月30日的数据。这实际上令人印象深刻。递延账单接近10亿。哇。14亿美元。然后是约87.3亿美元的长期债务。这不算坏。这相当好。我知道这基本上全是长期债务,但这不算坏。我喜欢这样。这要好得多。

Okay. Where's our cash flow statement? Should be right here. There it is. Cash flow. Net cash used in operating. So, oh, wait a second. Wait a second. I'm in the wrong column. Hold on. Oh, yeah. Look at that. That was in December. All of these numbers are December. Okay, so that's December. Let's make a note of that. I hate it when they do that. Usually the most recent quarter is on the left. Then you get like one in 10 companies who want to be special. Uh D's 3125. All right. All right. All right. Uh let's go with Wow, look at that. 8 billion in cash. So this is June 30th. That's actually impressive. Bills of deferred is almost a bill. Oh wow. 1.4 billion. And then long-term debt of 8 73ish billion dollars. That's not bad. That's pretty good. Now, I know it's basically all long-term debt, but that's not bad. I like that. That's much better.

好的,来看现金流。我们有来自持续经营业务的现金45亿美元。其中很大一部分是预收款。看到这里的递延收入了吗?这是预收款的注入。被预收款注入推高了。所以这笔现金流可能不会保持这样。不太可能维持这种水平。

Okay, so cash flow. Cash flow. We have cash from continuing operations, 4.5 billion. A lot of this is going to be deposits. See this deferred revenue right here? It's an injection of deposits. Uh pumped up. uh pumped up by deposit injections. So that that cash flow probably won't stay like that. Uh won't uh likely stay like that.

好的。然后如果我看看厂房、物业和设备,他们基本上全花在了硬件上。80亿美元。他们在芯片上砸钱。但我的意思是,想想看。80亿美元的支出大约只是SpaceX和Google刚刚筹集资金的十分之一。所以,他们仍然是一个小玩家,对吧?

Okay. And then if I look at plant property equipment, they basically blew all of it on hardware. 8 billion. They're throwing money at chips. But I mean, think about this. You know, 8 billion in spend is like onetenth of what SpaceX and Google just raised. So, like they're still a small player, right?

好吧。让我们继续。这还不错。我的意思是,他们仍然像个婴儿一样,对吧?这说得通。你知道,SpaceX和Google都是万亿美元市值的公司。

All right. Let's keep going with this. So, that's not bad. I mean, they're still a little baby, right? which makes sense. You know, SpaceX and Google are trillion dollar companies.

让我们看看他们实际上是如何赚钱的。我有5.82亿美元的收入,而他们把这些都花光了。没关系。在这个阶段这是可以预期的。我想知道他们对实际盈利的预测是什么,还有利息支出和其他收入。

那都是胡扯。好吧。让我们去查查看。让我们去看看具体情况。

Let's see how they actually make dollars. So, I've got revenues of $582 million and they spend all of it. That's all right. Uh that's expected at this point still. I wonder what their forecast is for actually making money and interest expense, other income. That's all bull crap. Okay. So, let's go find out. Let's go see what it is.

这还可以。预计他们不会在2026年盈利,也不会在2027年盈利,而是在2028年盈利。哦耶,太棒了。到2030年,预计每股收益将达到15美元。哇,这可不少。嗯,那是对其投资期的回报。

所以,你知道,到时候他们的资产负债表会是什么样?我们走着瞧。但让我们记下来。预计2030年底每股收益为15.59美元。

And this all right. They are projected to be profitable not in 2026, not in 2027, but in 2028. Oh yeah, baby. By 2030, they're expected to make $15 per share. Whoa, that's a lot. Uh, now that's payback on their investment period. So, you know, what's their balance sheet going to look like at that point? We'll see. But let's write that down. a projected projected to yield 1559 uh of uh EPS in end of 2030.

到2030年,预计每股收益将达到15美元。嗯,那是对其投资期的回报。所以,你知道,到时候他们的资产负债表会是什么样?我们走着瞧。

By 2030, they're expected to make $15 per share. Uh, now that's payback on their investment period. So, you know, what's their balance sheet going to look like at that point? We'll see.

但让我们记下来。预计2030年底每股收益为15.59美元。这意味着它的交易价格是216除以……这真的很糟糕,因为这是一个远期市盈率,但那会是……噢,拜托。217除以15.59。

它大约是13.9倍的市盈率,针对2030年的预期。

But let's write that down. a projected projected to yield 1559 uh of uh EPS in end of 2030. That's, you know, that means it's trading for 216 divided by This is really bad because it's such a forward PE, but that would be Oh, come on. 217 / 1559. It's trading for about 13.9x, you know, PE for 2030.

所以远期市盈率总是有点令人担忧,因为接下来你需要考虑的是,之后的增长率会是多少?估值最终取决于2030年后的增长情况,对吧?这仍然是在押注2030年后的增长,因为从现在到那时,你并不盈利——或者说,目标是2028年实现盈利。

所以,这是在赌他们能否将GPU租赁业务持续到2030年代。嗯,这是在赌GPU和CPU租赁业务能持续到2030年代。

So four Ps are always a little bit scary because then what you have to do is like what's the growth rate going to be after that? Um valuation comes down to what's the growth post 2030, right? It's still a bet on that post 2030 growth because between now and then you're you're not profit well between you go profitable in 2028 supposedly is the goal. So, it's a bet on them being able to sustain those GPU rentals into the 2030s. Uh, this is a bet on sustaining GPU and CPU rentals into 2030s.

估值取决于 2030 年后的增长情况,对吧?这仍然是在押注 2030 年后的增长,因为从现在到那时,你并不盈利——或者说,目标是在 2028 年实现盈利。

Um valuation comes down to what's the growth post 2030, right? It's still a bet on that post 2030 growth because between now and then you're you're not profit well between you go profitable in 2028 supposedly is the goal.

所以,这是在押注他们能够将 GPU 租赁业务持续到 2030 年代。这是一个关于将 GPU 和 CPU 租赁业务持续到 2030 年代的赌注。

So, it's a bet on them being able to sustain those GPU rentals into the 2030s. Uh, this is a bet on sustaining GPU and CPU rentals into 2030s.

是的,我的意思是,这相当直接,但除此之外,我的意思是,他们其实设置得挺不错的。嗯,这没什么冒犯性。呃,你知道,这不是我的风格,但呃,但还不错。

Yeah, I mean, it's pretty straightforward, but otherwise, I mean, they've got it they've actually got it set up pretty decently. Uh, it's not offensive. It's uh you know, it's not it's not my kind of play, but uh but not bad.

好吧,让我们看看还有什么。这在Nebius这里还不错。这确实不错。走吧。这给了我们一些关于兆瓦定价的色彩,基本上就是每兆瓦的价格。

All right, let's go see what else we have. So that's that's not bad. That's not bad on on uh Nebs here. Let's go. And it gives us a little bit of color on the megawws, you know, pricing per megawatt basically.

所以这还不错。这对 Nebius 来说还不错。这给了我们一些关于兆瓦定价的色彩,基本上就是每兆瓦的价格。呃,但是呃,这是呃,让我看看。这个渠道在哪里,巴拉巴拉巴拉。好吧。所以,你知道,Gavin

So that's that's not bad. That's not bad on on uh Nebs here. And it gives us a little bit of color on the megawws, you know, pricing per megawatt basically. Uh but uh this is uh let's see here. where is this channel blah blah blah blah blah. Okay. So, you know, Gavin

我想你可能会更接近于 45%、45%、10% 的比例。但这将非常有趣,因为这种具体的细分对于是否投资像 Nebius 这样的公司至关重要,因为你为什么要从他们那里租用呢?

I think you're you would probably be more sitting closer to like, you know, 45% 45% 10%. But that'll be very interesting because that specific breakdown is also critical for if you're going to invest in a company like, you know, Nebius because you why why rent from them?

但这会非常有趣,因为具体的细分数据对于决定是否投资像Nebius这样的公司也至关重要,因为你为什么要从他们那里租用?让我看看能不能找到一张价目表。Nebius GPU价目表,就像你可以自己投资产品一样,这当然是一个风险因素,除了前沿领域之外。

But that'll be very interesting because that specific breakdown is also critical for if you're going to invest in a company like, you know, Nebius because you why why rent from them? Let me see if I could get like a pricing sheet. Nebus uh GPU pricing sheet like you could just invest in the product yourself which is of course a risk factor then um outside of the frontiers.

让我看看能不能拿到一份价目表。Nebius 的 GPU 价目表,就像你可以直接投资该产品本身,这当然是一个风险因素,除了那些前沿产品之外。

Let me see if I could get like a pricing sheet. Nebus uh GPU pricing sheet like you could just invest in the product yourself which is of course a risk factor then um outside of the frontiers.

例如,这里显示的是当前的 GPU 小时数。其中一些型号实际上没有报价,比如 GB300 和 GB200 都没有报价。这些只是较新的 Blackwell 架构产品。所以他们在报价的是旧款产品。

看,就像这样。Nvidia RTX Pro 6000。好吧,我为什么不自己买一个呢?哦,等等。我们确实买了。但我为什么要付给你每 GPU 小时 1.80 美元?你知道,我可以在 Amazon 上买到这个东西。

我觉得大概是 1.5 万美元左右。让我看看。我们当时买的大概是 7000 美元。Nvidia 6000 RTX。所以,现在的交易价格……哦,这太搞笑了。真的很好笑。你可以看到我的上一笔订单。

我们买了好几个这个。你可以看到顶部那里是我的上一笔订单。上面写着最后一次购买日期是 2025 年 8 月 27 日。真有意思。不管怎样,我是说你现在可以买到这个,当我们以大约 7000 美元买入时,现在你可以以 144 美元的价格买到它。

那么一个月有多少小时呢?嗯,我不知道。让我们假设一下,如果我每天运行 24 小时。那是 720 小时。我的回本周期是多少?在这种情况下是 720。你需要支付……我还是需要一年半的时间,按那个价格算,因为一旦你知道,而且你还得把它安装到机器里,所以运行一台这样的设备成本可能仍然在 1.7 万美元左右,或者你把它放进服务器机架,所以还得加一点费用。

所以,如果你全天候运行,17,000 除以 720。是的,那仍然是两年的回本周期,但之后你就拥有它了,数据也是你自己的。所以我认为这正成为越来越多的竞争对手。这是按需服务。公平地说,如果你一直使用,他们确实会提供价格折扣。

所以你可以签订合约。但这很有道理。但在这个价格下,对他们来说四年才能盈亏平衡,除非他们获得批量定价,也许他们确实如此。他们可能从 Nvidia 那里得到了一些折扣,因为那是 Amazon 上的零售价格。

所以你可以看到他们的商业模式。比如说,他们全押在这些 RTX 上。也许他们像我们一样一年前就拿到了,价格是 7000 美元左右。他们拿到了 Nvidia 的价格,以 7000 美元购入。

好吧,7,000 美元加上其他杂项硬件,大概需要 9,000 小时才能回本。9,000 小时除以 365。需要一年。仍然是一年。我是说,这对 Nebius 来说是好事。是的,他们能做到,但话说回来,如果回本周期这么低,为什么不自己买呢?

显然不是每个人都会自己买,但这将成为更多的竞争。当然不是那些更大的机架,更前沿的机架,但看到这个定价很有趣。然后你拥有自己的硬件。我是说,对于去年我们买的那些,我们可能已经处于盈亏平衡点,因为我们买得太便宜了。

现在是两年的回本周期。之前是一年的回本周期,因为价格上涨了。总之,这很酷。Oracle 在这里也得到了一点提振。我觉得你的原始 Nebius 信用违约互换在这个标的上表现得很疯狂。

但这里的债务也很疯狂,这是我发现的这些公司的挑战之一。

So here for example these are the GPU hours right now. Some of these they don't actually quote like the GB300 they're not quoting and the GB200 they're not quoting. These are just the newer black wells. So they're quoting the older stuff. See, like, look at this. The Nvidia RTX Pro 6000. Okay, why don't I just buy that myself? Oh, wait. We did. But why am I going to pay you a buck 80 per GPU hour? You know, I could I could buy this thing on Amazon. I think it's like 15 grand or whatever. Uh, let me see. We bought ours for like seven grand. Nvidia 6000 RTX. So, right now traded for Oh, that's hilarious. That's actually hilarious. You can see my last order. We bought multiple of these. Uh you can see my last order at the top there. It says uh you know, last purchase August 27th of 2025. That's funny. Uh but anyway, so I mean you could buy this now when we bought it for whatever it was uh7,000 or whatever and uh 144 is what you could buy it for. So you know how many hours in in a month? Well, I don't know. Let's let's just assume for a giggle that I'm running it 24 hours a day. That's 720. What's my payback period? 720 in this case. you need to pay I need I'd still need a year and a half you know at that price you know cuz once you know and then you got to install it into a machine too you know so it's probably still going to cost you like 17 grand to run one of those or you put it into a server rack so you got to add a little bit for for it. So, you're still probably at if you're running it 24/7, 17,000 divided by 720. Yeah, that's still a 2-year payback period, but then you own it and it's your data. So, I think that's that's becoming more and more of the competition. Uh, and that's the ondemand. I guess I I guess in fairness, if you're using it all the time, they do give you pricing discounts here. So, you know, you contract it up. But that makes sense. But at this price, at this price, it's a four-year break even for them, unless they're getting, you know, bulk pricing, which maybe they are. They probably are getting some kind of discount from Nvidia because that's retail pricing on Amazon. So, you could see the business model. You know, let's say they're all in on these RTXs. Maybe they got them a year ago like we did and they were, you know, seven grand or whatever. They got Nvidia prices and they're getting them for seven grand. Well, $7,000 still takes me uh well, basically 7,000 hours plus the miscellaneous other hardware takes me call it 9,000 hours to pay for itself. 9,000 hours divided by 365. It takes a year. That's still a year. I mean, it's good for Nebius. Yeah, they they could pull off, but then then again, like if the payback periods are so low, why don't you buy it yourself? Not everybody's obviously going to buy themselves, but that's going to become more competition. Certainly not these these larger racks, the more Frontier racks, but that's that's interesting seeing the pricing for this. Then you own your own hardware. I mean, for those that we bought last year, we're we're probably already at the break even price because we got them so much cheaper. Now, it's like a two-year payback period. It was a one-year payback period because the prices have gone up. But anyway, uh so this is cool. Oracles got getting gotten a little bit of a pump in here. This is I feel like your OG Nebius uh credit default swaps are wild on this puppy. But the debt is also insane over here and that's one of the the challenges that I find of the uh these guys.

看,就像这样。Nvidia RTX Pro 6000。好吧,我为什么不自己买一个呢?哦,等等。我们确实买了。但我为什么要付给你每 GPU 小时 1.80 美元?你知道,我可以在 Amazon 上买到这个东西。

我觉得大概是 1.5 万美元左右。让我看看。我们当时买的大概是 7000 美元。Nvidia 6000 RTX。

See, like, look at this. The Nvidia RTX Pro 6000. Okay, why don't I just buy that myself? Oh, wait. We did. But why am I going to pay you a buck 80 per GPU hour? You know, I could I could buy this thing on Amazon. I think it's like 15 grand or whatever. Uh, let me see. We bought ours for like seven grand. Nvidia 6000 RTX.

所以,现在的交易价格……哦,这太搞笑了。真的很好笑。你可以看到我的上一笔订单。我们买了好几个这个。你可以看到顶部那里是我的上一笔订单。上面写着最后一次购买日期是 2025 年 8 月 27 日。真有意思。

So, right now traded for Oh, that's hilarious. That's actually hilarious. You can see my last order. We bought multiple of these. Uh you can see my last order at the top there. It says uh you know, last purchase August 27th of 2025. That's funny.

不管怎样,我是说你现在可以买到这个,当我们以大约 7000 美元买入时,现在你可以以 144 美元的价格买到它。那么一个月有多少小时呢?嗯,我不知道。让我们假设一下,如果我每天运行 24 小时。

那是 720 小时。我的回本周期是多少?在这种情况下是 720。你需要支付……我还是需要一年半的时间,按那个价格算,因为一旦你知道,而且你还得把它安装到机器里,所以运行一台这样的设备成本可能仍然在 1.7 万美元左右,或者你把它放进服务器机架,所以还得加一点费用。

所以,如果你全天候运行,17,000 除以 720。是的,那仍然是两年的回本周期,但之后你就拥有它了,数据也是你自己的。

Uh but anyway, so I mean you could buy this now when we bought it for whatever it was uh7,000 or whatever and uh 144 is what you could buy it for. So you know how many hours in in a month? Well, I don't know. Let's let's just assume for a giggle that I'm running it 24 hours a day. That's 720. What's my payback period? 720 in this case. you need to pay I need I'd still need a year and a half you know at that price you know cuz once you know and then you got to install it into a machine too you know so it's probably still going to cost you like 17 grand to run one of those or you put it into a server rack so you got to add a little bit for for it. So, you're still probably at if you're running it 24/7, 17,000 divided by 720. Yeah, that's still a 2-year payback period, but then you own it and it's your data.

所以我认为这正成为越来越多的竞争对手。这是按需服务。公平地说,如果你一直使用,他们确实会提供价格折扣。所以你可以签订合约。但这很有道理。

So, I think that's that's becoming more and more of the competition. Uh, and that's the ondemand. I guess I I guess in fairness, if you're using it all the time, they do give you pricing discounts here. So, you know, you contract it up. But that makes sense.

但在这个价格下,对他们来说四年才能盈亏平衡,除非他们获得批量定价,也许他们确实如此。他们可能从 Nvidia 那里得到了一些折扣,因为那是 Amazon 上的零售价格。

But at this price, at this price, it's a four-year break even for them, unless they're getting, you know, bulk pricing, which maybe they are. They probably are getting some kind of discount from Nvidia because that's retail pricing on Amazon.

所以你可以看到他们的商业模式。比如说,他们全押在这些 RTX 上。也许他们像我们一样一年前就拿到了,价格是 7000 美元左右。他们拿到了 Nvidia 的价格,以 7000 美元购入。

好吧,7,000 美元加上其他杂项硬件,大概需要 9,000 小时才能回本。9,000 小时除以 365。需要一年。仍然是一年。我是说,这对 Nebius 来说是好事。

So, you could see the business model. You know, let's say they're all in on these RTXs. Maybe they got them a year ago like we did and they were, you know, seven grand or whatever. They got Nvidia prices and they're getting them for seven grand. Well, $7,000 still takes me uh well, basically 7,000 hours plus the miscellaneous other hardware takes me call it 9,000 hours to pay for itself. 9,000 hours divided by 365. It takes a year. That's still a year. I mean, it's good for Nebius.

是的,他们能做到,但话说回来,如果回本周期这么低,为什么不自己买呢?显然不是每个人都会自己买,但这将成为更多的竞争。当然不是那些更大的机架,更前沿的机架,但看到这个定价很有趣。

然后你拥有自己的硬件。我是说,对于去年我们买的那些,我们可能已经处于盈亏平衡点,因为我们买得太便宜了。现在是两年的回本周期。之前是一年的回本周期,因为价格上涨了。

Yeah, they they could pull off, but then then again, like if the payback periods are so low, why don't you buy it yourself? Not everybody's obviously going to buy themselves, but that's going to become more competition. Certainly not these these larger racks, the more Frontier racks, but that's that's interesting seeing the pricing for this. Then you own your own hardware. I mean, for those that we bought last year, we're we're probably already at the break even price because we got them so much cheaper. Now, it's like a two-year payback period. It was a one-year payback period because the prices have gone up.

好的。NBIS 位于支撑线上,SpaceX,今天的 Q 在哪里?NBIS 位于支撑线上,

Okay. So, NBIS sitting on the line, SpaceX, where are the Q's today? NBIS sitting on the line,

我有 Nebius 上涨 5%。

I've got uh Nebus up five.

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Nebius 获得高盛上调评级。它现在是一家市值 590 亿美元的公司。作为一家 NeoCloud 公司,它的规模还很小。尽管较 300 美元的峰值已下跌约 27%。
2026-08-24看跌
再说一次,你会得到那些不可退还的押金,像Sandis这样的公司会保留这些押金。顺便说一句,Sandis获得了大量前期资金,很多超大规模和新型云公司也是如此,无论是NBIS还是其他公司,他们都会获得大量前期资金,这样他们就可以继续投资基础设施。人们看到那笔前期资金,就会想“天哪,这家公司有这么多现金流”,但忘记了那实际上是未来几年合同的预付款。如果合同被取消,你就不会再得到那些额外的押金了。所以当那些取消发生时,确实会带来潜在的下行风险。
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