高盛认为NBIS因强劲交易而具备50%的上涨空间,但需警惕存款驱动现金流表象及定价权可持续性方面的风险。
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高盛刚刚为 Neveah 股票发布了一个出色的目标价,该公司也刚刚与英伟达合作,通过 Groq 发布其超高速令牌推理芯片。
Goldman Sachs just came out with a glorious price target for Neveah stock, which is also the company that just partnered with Nvidia on releasing their ultra-fast token inference chips via Groq.
他们将成为首批实际提供这些芯片访问权限的公司之一,以与 Cerebras 的超高速令牌生成器竞争,从而利用这些 SRAM 芯片实现低延迟、几乎难以察觉的人工智能响应速度。
They'll be one of the first actually providing access to those chips to compete with the ultra-fast token generators of Cerebras for that low latency, almost imperceptible latency artificial intelligence that you can get from these SRAM chips.
我们的 Stock AI 预测目前显示 Neveah 的公允价值约为 238 美元。在本次录制时,这代表了约 7.5% 的上涨空间。
Our Stock AI forecast right now has Neveah sitting at a fair value of about $238. That represents about a 7 and 1/2% upside at the time of this recording.
正如我在这里指出的,Neveah 正在提供首批用于超高速令牌的 Groq 生产芯片,与 Cerebras 展开竞争。
Neveah as I noted here is providing the first Groq production chips for ultra-fast tokens in competition with Cerebras.
第二季度达成的交易以每兆瓦 2000 万美元的价格成交,即每吉瓦 200 亿美元,对吧?只需乘以 1,000。预计不到两年的投资回收期将从第四季度末开始贡献收益。
Deals closed in the second quarter closed at $20 million a megawatt, that's $20 billion a gigawatt, right? Just multiply by 1,000. And a sub-two-year payback period are expected to be contributing starting in late Q4.
这很好。如果你能经常签署这样的协议,并且所有硬件的投资回收期都低于两年,那真的非常好。这是反人工智能泡沫叙事的,是支持芯片扩建的,是支持英伟达的。简单来说就是好。这是最简单的说法。这很好。
That's great. If you can sign deals like that regularly and have a sub-two-year payback for all the hardware, really, really good. That's anti-AI bubble narrative. That's pro chip build-out. That's pro Nvidia. That's like just good. That's the easiest way to put it. It's good.
因此,Nebius 签署超过 200 亿美元的合同是相当不错的。但这确实也重申了,从长远来看,这种 30 到 50(十亿美元)的水平可能不可持续,但我们会密切关注,因为有传言称,据高盛报道,Nevius 也在“所谓地”谈判期限较短的协议,价格在每兆瓦 4000 万至 5000 万美元或 400 亿至 500 亿美元区间,这应在 2027 年及以后成为有意义的营收贡献者。
So, Nebius signing contracts above 20 billion is pretty good. But, it does also reiterate that in the long term this 30 to 50 might not be mega sustainable, but we'll keep an eye on it because there is talk that Nevius per Goldman is also quote-unquote negotiating shorter-term agreements in the 40 to 50 billion dollar or million per megawatt range, which should serve as a meaningful top-line contributor in 2027 beyond.
显然,Nevius 是一家比 SpaceX 甚至 Google 小得多的公司。例如,Google 在过去几个月筹集了 860 亿美元。SpaceX 筹集了 800 亿美元。Nevius 拥有大约 80 亿美元的现金,对吧?
而且公司的规模小于 800 亿美元。它是一家市值约 500 亿美元的公司。因此,与这些巨头相比,它是一个小得多的公司和参与者,但看到边缘计算定价的情况是件好事,对吧?
Nevius obviously a much smaller company than SpaceX or you know, even Google. Google, for example, raised 86 billion dollars in the last few months. SpaceX raised 80 billion dollars. Nevius has like 8 billion dollars of cash, right? Like and and the size of the company is is less than 80 billion dollars. It's like a 50 billion dollar company. So, much much smaller company and player compared to these big guys, but it's good to see this for what's that what's pricing doing on the edge, right?
这将有助于高盛对 Nevius 的目标价设定。因此,正在为 2027 年大幅增加部署做准备。部分 2027 年的产能被故意保留而非现在签约,这反映了管理层对未来定价的信心。
And this will help with the price target for Nevius from Goldman Sachs. So, preparations are underway for materially higher deployment in 2027. 2027 capacity, some of it is being deliberately retained rather than contracting it today reflecting management's confidence in future pricing.
我实际上不喜欢这个想法。我不喜欢他们故意扣留库存以推高价格的想法。这有点像人为限制供应以挤压价格上涨。我理解他们希望锁定更高收益驱动的合同,但我认为你谈判的是一个误导性的现货价格,因为你人为地扣留了你可能拥有的供应。
我们实际上并没有获得这些现货价格应有的真实市场出清水平,或者我们应该预期的长期合同实际运行水平。所以,我对此没那么喜欢。
I actually don't like that idea. I don't like the idea that they're holding back inventory on purpose to squeeze pricing up. So, it's sort of like artificially holding back supply to squeeze pricing up. I get it for wanting to lock in higher earnings driving contracts, but I think that's a misleading spot price that you're negotiating because you're artificially holding supply that you potentially have. And we're not actually getting a real market clearing of what those spot prices should be or what we should expect those longer term contracts to actually run at. So, I don't love that as much.
除此之外,他们还获得了数百兆瓦的表后发电能力接入。这非常重要,这样你就可以更快地获得数据中心的许可。
Uh in addition to that, they have secured access to hundreds of megawatts of behind the meter power generation. This is really important so you can get faster permits for your data centers.
无论如何,他们也在扩展并增加其 CPU 集群,以用于代理工作负载。这是我之前写下的我认为的范围。我觉得如果每吉瓦低于 80 亿美元,情况就会变得可怕。如果开始低于那个水平,以 20(百万/兆瓦)签约是很好的,特别是因为我认为长期合同大多在 14 到 15 左右。
如果你能达到 30 以上,那就太棒了。如果你能达到 50,而且是规模化后的价格,不是短缺定价,那是荒谬的好。但那可能需要 AGI 和机器人技术,不过这对所有这些数据中心提供商来说将是一个巨大的利好,无论是 SpaceX、Nebia's,还是其他任何公司。
But anyway, they're expanding uh and adding to their CPU um fleet as well for agentic workloads. This is kind of the range that I think I I wrote this earlier. I think if you get sub eight billion dollars per gigawatt, things get scary. If you start falling below that, signing at 20 is great, especially since I think mostly we're at like 14 to 15 on longer contracts. Uh and if you could get anywhere over 30, that's fantastic. If you could get to 50, scaled up, not shortage pricing, that's ridiculous. But that probably requires AGI and robotics, but it would be such a boon for all of these data center providers, SpaceX, Nebia's, uh you name it.
此外,高盛指出其经营现金流表现良好。我之前写道可能是因为存款。结果高盛紧接着下一行就说,第二季度达成的交易中 70% 包含预付款。我确实认为这有点风险,包括 90 亿美元的预付款,因为当你真正查看这些公司的现金流量表时,它们看起来可能非常令人兴奋,因为你可能会想,“天哪,流入的现金太多了。
这太好了。看看这个。我们这里有 45 亿美元的现金。哇。是的,我们在硬件上花了 80 亿美元,但我们带来了 45 亿。嗯,其中 44 亿是预付款、递延收入,对吧?所以我们必须小心,未来那些预付款不会进来,所以那些数字不会看起来那么好。只要你知道这一点,我就觉得没问题。这很重要。”
Uh Goldman Sachs here suggests that their operating cash flow is doing well. I wrote probably because of deposits. It turns out just the very next line Goldman then says that 70% of deals closed in Q2 included upfront payments. I do think that this is a little bit of a risk including $9 billion of upfront funding because when you actually go into the cashflow statements for these companies, they could look really exciting uh because you're like, "Oh my gosh, there's just there's so much cash coming in. This is great. Look at this. We've got $4.5 billion of cash over here. Wow. Yeah, we spent $8 billion on hardware but we brought in 4.5. Yeah, well 4.4 of that was upfront deposits, deferred revenue, right? So we have to be careful that in the future those deposits won't come in so those numbers won't look as good. And so as long as you're aware of that then I think that's okay. That's important.
其中很多合同也有相当高的取消成本。所以你知道,公司不太可能仅仅因为取消成本可能超过 50% 就放弃他们已经确保的安全计算资源,但我们并不确定。关于所有这些不同公司的具体取消成本,没有太多的详细信息。
A lot of these also have pretty high cancellation costs. So you know, it's unlikely that uh companies really want to walk away from the secure uh compute that they've secured just because the cancellation costs are probably over 50% but we're not sure. There's not a lot of color on exactly what all of these cancellation costs are for all these various different companies.
但我确实认为 Nebius 拥有定价权,以及如何处理其取消条款的能力。他们不想最终承担损失,尽管他们仍然可能会。对吧?所以这取决于。一切都取决于那个数字。每兆瓦是多少?是每兆瓦数百万美元还是每吉瓦数十亿美元。
Uh but I do think that Nebius has pricing power and how they can handle their cancellation clauses. They don't want to get left holding the bag although they still might. Right? So it depends. It all depends on that number. What's that megawatt number, right? The millions per megawatts or billions per gigawatts.
随着算力上线将其售出,我们看到 Blackwell GPU 的定价仍具建设性。定价实际上一直在大幅上涨。
Uh selling out compute as it comes online, we see uh pricing remains constructive for Blackwell GPUs. Pricing's actually been moving up uh quite a bit.
因此,高盛的目标价是 328 美元。这意味着他们认为该股票有 50% 的上涨空间。我要说的是,如果我看看他们的资产负债表,他们的资产负债表其实相当不错。他们有 80 亿美元的现金。
他们有 14 亿美元的票据,长期债务约为 80 亿。这算是黄色区域,对吧?就像它不是超级完美,但也不像 Broadcom 或 Oracle 那样让你觉得“天哪,债务真多”。或者更糟,像 UPS 那样,对吧?
So, Goldman Sachs, their price target is $328. So, they see a 50% upside in the stock. I will say if I look at their balance sheet, their balance sheet is actually pretty decent. They've got $8 billion of cash. They've got $1.4 billion of bills and they have long-term debt of about eight. It's yellowish, right? Like it's not super perfect, but it's not like Broadcom or Oracle where you're like, "Oh my gosh, that's a lot of debt." Or worse like UPS, right?
好的,如果我看一下2030年的预期收益率。这有点像远期定价模型。我得出一个约13.9的预期未来收益率(基于市盈率)。这是针对2030年的。这主要是因为预计他们直到2028年才能盈利。
因此,必须使用一些前瞻性数据来真正对其进行定价。目标再次是到2028年实现盈利,如果他们能实现盈利,从现在到本十年末预计会有显著增长。
Okay, then if I look at this projected yield by 2030. So, this is sort of like a forward pricing model. I get to a you know, projected future yield of about 13.9 on a PE basis. And that's 2030. That's mostly because we don't expect them to be profitable until 2028. So, you kind of have to use some forward numbers to really price this. Goal again is to be profitable in 2028 and and there's some significant growth expected between now and the end of the decade if they can go profitable.
在我看来,最大的风险因素是盈利能力,以及市场被预付款误导。你知道,他们对此感到困惑。资产负债表状况尚可。我最担心的是这些谈判的可持续性。即使按每兆瓦2000万美元计算,这很好,但一旦我们真正开始扩大规模,我们能否维持这种定价?
我希望如此。我希望这比仅仅因为生成式编码导致的暂时反弹更具可持续性,一旦我们赶上进度,就会回归趋势。因为如果我们回归趋势,所有这些价格至少都要下跌20%。这将导致……是的,GPU每小时定价可能会下降约20%,这将延长投资回收期。
这些都是需要关注的事项,但这是对Nevius的整体分析,也是为什么高盛对该股票的目标价约为330美元,以及在查看该股票时需要考虑的一些风险因素。
So, biggest risk factors in my opinion profitability and that the markets get misled by upfront deposits. You know, they get confused by that. And the balance sheet is okay. And I'm most concerned in the sustainability of these negotiations. Even at 20 million per megawatt, that's great, but once we really start scaling, are we going to be able to maintain that pricing? I hope so. I hope this is more sustainable than just a temporary bounce that we're seeing because of a genetic coding and once we get caught up with that, we go back to trend. Because if we go back to trend, all of these prices have to come down 20% at least. Going to take you to about Yeah, probably about 20% reduction in GPU per hour pricing that's going to extend payback periods. These are some of the things to watch for, but that's an overall breakdown on Nevius and why there's about a $330 price target from Goldman for this as well as some of the risk factors to consider when you're looking at the stock.
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