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凭借具吸引力的估值和高增长潜力,NVDA 是相较 AMD 更受青睐的买入标的。

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Jose Najarro Stocks发布 2026-09-24 · 41 段内容
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今天我想更仔细地看看我最喜欢的两家公司,Nvidia 和 AMT。他来到这里说:“你知道吗?我们来聊聊 AMD 和 Nvidia,但你必须在节目结束时选一个。在这些价格下你会买哪一只?”

Today I want to take a closer look at two of my favorite companies, Nvidia and AMT. He came in here and said, "You know what? Let's talk about AMD and Nvidia, but you have to choose one at the end of the episode. Who would you buy at these prices?

我们会聊 Nvidia 对 AMD。不久的将来甚至可能聊聊 Nvidia 对 Broadcom。我确实知道 Nvidia 是你的最爱,尽管你也持有 AMD,而我现在、就在此刻,已经完全押注 AMD。还有几股 Nvidia。

we'll talk about Nvidia versus AMD. might even talk about Nvidia versus Broadcom in the near future. I do know that Nvidia is your your favorite although you do own AMD as well and I am now as of right now fully in AMD. Couple of shares of Nvidia.

就 Nvidia 目前而言,Neil,我要从我认为是 Nvidia 最大的看涨理由之一说起,对我来说就是估值,包括增长机会。

with Nvidia right now, Neil, I'm going to start off with what I believe is one of the biggest bullish case for Nvidia and to me is the valuation including the growth opportunity.

这是一家最近一个季度增长 105% 的公司。再上一个季度同比增长 85%。如果我们看市场预期,下一季度是 91%,再下一个季度、之后的那个季度是 82%,我个人认为这些数字——分析师仍然低估了 Nvidia。

This is a company that most recent quarter grew 105%. The quarter before that it grew 85% year-over-year. And if we look at market expectations right 91% on next quarter and 82% next quart uh the quarter after that I personally believe that these numbers analysts still underestimate Nvidia

而在 Vera Rubin 平台上,Nvidia 有这样一个大规模的产品推出,Vera Rubin 采用了更多来自 Nvidia 的组件,他们有更多独立机架,比如这个 Vera CPU 独立机架,他们有 LPX 解决方案,我认为分析师低估了 Vera Rubin 潜在的实力。

and with the Vera Rubin platform kind of Nvidia having this massive introduction where Vera Rubin is having even more components from Nvidia they're having more standalone racks like this Vera CPU standalone rack they have the LPX solution I I I think analysts are underestimating the potential strength of Vera Rubin.

但无论如何,即使他们不是,你给我的是一家以高双位数增长的公司,还带着这样的估值。我们不妨看看 Ford 的市盈率 18.76。对我来说,这太疯狂了。

But regardless, even if they're not, you're giving me a company that's growing high double digits at a valuation. Let's kind of look at Ford PE ratio of 18.76. To me, that is insane.

但没错,Nvidia 预计会增长。我的意思是,说实话,甚至接近三位数,对吧?它相当接近让业务翻倍。而金额只会越来越大、越来越大。有趣的是,过去 12 个月,营业利润接近 2000 亿美元。

而到 2029 财年,预计将超过 6000 亿美元。所以,营业利润增长约 3 倍即将发生,或者说这就是目前的预期。

but yeah, Nvidia is expected to grow. I mean, even close to triple digits if we're if we're being honest, right? It it's quite close to doubling its business. And the dollar amount just gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

Fun fact, over the last 12 months, operating profit is close to $200 billion. And for fiscal 29, it's expected to be over $600 billion. So, a 3x increase in operating profits is about to happen or that's the expectation um as of right now.

但没错,估值在这里是个有趣的问题,因为市盈率当然非常低。自由现金流超高。所以这里的市价与自由现金流之比也很低。那么问题就变成,为什么它这么低?纯粹是因为这是一家 5.5 万亿或 5.4 万亿美元的公司吗?

这就是它上行时涨得不多的原因吗?尽管我认为它今年迄今仍上涨了大约 19% 左右。

But yeah, valuation is a is an interesting one here because of course PE is very low. Free cash flow super high. So price to free cash flow is also low right here. The the question then becomes why why is it so low?

Is it purely because this is a 5.5 or 5.4 trillion company? Is that the reason why it's not moving that much on the upside? Although I think it's still up around 19% or so the year to date.

但没错,它可能是外面第一家真正的成长价值型公司,因为你获得了巨大的增长。2027 财年的预期数字是 90% 的增长,但预计在之后的那个财年将产生 4110 亿美元。目前,预期是同比增长 65%,但如果供应链允许,可能会远高于此。

But yeah, it it might be the the first truly growth value company out there because you're getting tremendous growth. 90% growth is the expected number for fiscal 27, but it's expected to generate $411 billion for the the fiscal year afterwards.

Right now, expectations are at 65% year-over-year growth, but if if supply chain allows, it might be much more much more than that.

尽管如此,与如果这是一家、我猜,以如此之快速度增长、如此盈利的 2000 亿美元公司、也许是 5000 亿美元公司时你通常会得到的情况相比,定价指标非常低,你可能会看到 20 多倍的前瞻市盈率,有时甚至超过 30 倍。

然而这一家,仍然低于 20 倍。所以就估值而言,我会说,极其、极其有吸引力。

Despite all of that, the pricing metrics are super low compared to what you would usually get if this were, I guess, a $200 billion company, maybe $500 billion company growing this quickly and this profitable, you would probably see mid20s forward PE or even sometimes over 30s.

Yet with this one, it is still under 20 times. So valuation wise, I would say check extremely extremely attractive.

增长率极具吸引力,利润率即使、即使因为高内存价格而在短期内预期下滑,仍然相当高,实际上处于 Nvidia 的历史高位,所以我不会太担心这一点。

growth rates super attractive margins even with even with the expected decline in the short run because of high memory prices it's still quite high it's actually at historic high levels for an Nvidia so I wouldn't be too worried about that yeah

光是聊 Nvidia 就让我对我们谈到的那些看涨理由越来越兴奋,聊到所有的财务数字,真是疯狂,你谈到未来四个季度的自由现金流,这家公司预计将实现超过 2400 亿美元的自由现金流。

这对我来说简直太疯狂了,对吧?这对我来说简直太疯狂了。

just talking about Nvidia gets me more excited and excited about some of the bullish we talked about kind of all the financial numbers and and it's crazy you talked about free cash flow for the next four quarters this company is expected to do north of $240 billion in free cash flow.

That is freaking wild to me, right? That is freaking wild to me.

但就像我说的,对我来说财务数字已经够了。让我对 Nvidia 感到兴奋的是创新,对吧?他们是第一个提出这种全机架规模系统的,现在他们正在此基础上扩展,对吧?就像我提到的,现在他们有那种聚合推理,你有 LPX,然后他们的 AI 加速器、他们的 GPU 承担大量工作,或者取决于你需要的工作负载。

But like I said, enough of financials to me. The things that excites me about Nvidia is just the innovation, right? They they were the first to come up with this full rack scale system and now they're expanding across that, right?

They like I mentioned now they have kind of the aggregated inference where you have the LPX and and the and then their AI accelerator their GPUs doing a lot of the work or or depending on the workloads you need.

Nvidia 可以说是第一个通过收购实现的,但它仍然是内部在做这件事的那一个,而在此之前,他们实际上已经在计划用他们大约一年前生产或讨论过的 CPX 做别的事情。看起来他们原本在计划这件事,但无论如何他们改变了方向。

Nvidia is the first through an acquire per se, but it's still the one internally doing and and before this they were actually already planning on doing it something else with a CPX that they had produced or or discussed about a year ago.

It seems like they were planning on it but they changed direction regardless.

他们还在用他们的 DPU 在存储解决方案、存储系统方面进行创新。这同样是其他合作伙伴或其他参与者正在与合作伙伴一起做的事情。Nvidia 把一切都纳入其中,这让他们能从这块蛋糕中拿走更多钱,而无论现在是谁在卖 AI 算力,每单位算力或每兆瓦、每兆瓦收入最高的那一个就是 Nvidia。

They're also innovating in storage solutions in storage systems with their DPUs. Something that again other partners or or players are working with partners. Nvidia is bringing everything in there which allows them to take more money off the pie and no matter who it is right now kind of selling AI compute the one that collects the most revenue per compute or per mega per megawatt is Nvidia.

我认为 Nvidia 谈到过每吉瓦 400 亿美元的潜在销售额,而另外两家分享过的竞争对手——我认为是 AMD 和 Broadcom——他们只告诉我们十几或低双位数,对吧,他们不给我们一个完整的数字,Nvidia 是唯一给出这个数字的,我怀疑他们是不是只是不敢告诉我们实际数字,因为 Nvidia 正在把这么多东西都烘焙进去,而我认为这在很大程度上与创新有关。

I think Nvidia has talked about 40 billion of of potential sales per gigawatt where the other two competitors that have shared which I think have been AMD and Brocom they just tell us teens or double digits right they don't give us a full number is the only one giving it and I wonder if they're just scared to tell us why the the actual number because Nvidia is just baking so much and I think that has to go a lot with innovation.

最后一点,Neil,就是 Nvidia 团队把 Nvidia GPU 作为一种资产进行改造,我认为这非常关键,尤其是当你正在建设这些多吉瓦数据中心、花费数千亿美元来建设这些数据中心的时候。

The final thing, Neil, is just the Nvidia team kind of revamping this Nvidia GPUs as an asset, I think is very crucial, especially as you're building this multi-gawatt data centers where you are spending hundreds of billions to build the data centers.

如果我是一家银行,你对我说:“你看,我要用你给我的这笔钱去买这种GPU,而这类GPU过去8年的数据是,它一直跑在A100上,诸如此类,而且价格还一直维持着;或者这里有一个新玩家Broadcom,用的是ASIC,或者AMD,用的是完整的Rexdale系统,现在配上了MI450。”

数据量还不够。我会说,如果你想要更好的利率,你就得买Nvidia的GPU。

If I was a bank and you told me, "Hey, look, I'm going to use this money that you're going to give me to have this GPU and here's the data that this type of GPU can be for the past 8 years has been running on A100s and all this and has still maintained price or here's a new player Broadcom with an ASIC or AMD with the full Rexdale system now with the MI450.

There's not enough data set. I would say if you want the better rate, you're going to buy Nvidia GPUs.

我仍然会为这些其他玩家提供资金,但更好的利率肯定会倾向于那边。而且我认为,当你花的是数千亿美元时,这确实会形成一个讨论点。这并不意味着你一定会选择Nvidia,但如果你能拿到更好的利率,这就打开了谈判桌的空间,而这为Nvidia多抢一些市场份额创造了一点更多的机会。

I'll still give you money for these other players, but the better rate is definitely going to go with there. And I think when you're spending hundreds of billion, it does create a a discussion point.

It doesn't mean you're guaranteed to go with Nvidia, but if you're going to get better rates, it opens up the room for table of discussion, and that creates a little bit more opportunity for Nvidia to grab some more market share.

顺便说一句,你刚才提出的那个角度非常好,就是:是的,如果你使用完整的Nvidia解决方案,在你需要融资时就能拿到更好的利率,对吧?这里一个百分点,那里一个百分点,对于很多想要超快速增长的玩家来说,长期下来能省下相当多的钱。

by the way, that's a very good angle that you just laid out there with the fact that yes, if you are using full Nvidia solutions, you'll get better rates if you need to raise money, right?

A percent here, a percent there for a lot of these players that want to grow super quickly is saving them quite a lot of money over over the long term.

我认为,就GPU而言,那个老GPU的故事,我想我们已经看到Corwe,对吧,说过一些关于他们的A100的话,说他们仍在以不错的价格出租这些A100,而它们现在按说不是应该在技术上像人们说的那样在印钞吗,因为它们已经过了折旧期?

I think we we've seen uh with regards to the GPU, the old GPU story, I think we've seen Corwe, right, say something about their A100s that they're still leasing out at good prices and aren't those supposed to be technically now printing money as they say because they're past their their depreciation period?

是的。我的意思是,我想就在今天,他们宣布了与I的又一个合作,我想那大概是一家生物科学公司,那家公司将使用A100和H100。A100几乎是一款8年前的产品,却仍在为他们带来可观的收入。

Yeah. I mean, I think just today they they announced another partnership with I for I think it was like a bioscience company that that company is going to be using A100 and H100s.

The A100 is almost an 8-year-old product and still collecting great revenue for them.

我们知道,Nvidia最大的客户中的大多数,如果不是全部的话,将再次推出自己的定制芯片,当然是与Broadcom、Marvel这样的公司合作。这会不会潜在地损害Nvidia的预期增长率,我想这就是现在讨论的焦点。

We know that the majority, if not all of Nvidia's largest customers will again come out with their own custom chips, which of course partnering up with with a Broadcom with a Marvel.

Could it potentially hurt Nvidia's expected growth rates that that's I guess the the point of discussion now.

你把这一点,再加上也许所有这些GPU等等都是大宗商品这样的担忧混在一起。也许循环融资是一个危险信号。我认为所有这些事情,本身并不是看空。这只是空头一次又一次提出来的东西。

You mix this plus again the fears of maybe all of these GPUs etc. those are commodities. Maybe circular financing is a red flag. I think all of these things, it's not a bearish per se.

It's just what the bears bring up time and time again.

但就超大规模云厂商,比如那些推出自己定制芯片的大型科技公司而言,我仍然认为这些东西的绝大多数将用于内部计算,我认为超大规模云厂商、云服务玩家,它们都仍会提供Nvidia。为什么?

因为很可能那些使用AWS、Azure、Google Cloud的公司是建立在Nvidia技术栈之上的,所以那些超大规模云厂商如果开始提供不是Nvidia的东西,那就相当愚蠢了。

But on the hyperscalers like the big tech companies coming out with their own personal chips, I still think that the large majority of those things are going to be used for internal compute, I think the hyperscalers, the the cloud players, they're all going to still offer Nvidia.

Why is that? because well probably the companies that are using AWS, Azure, Google Cloud have built their company on Nvidia stack and so would be quite stupid for those hyperscalers to start offering something else that isn't Nvidia.

至于内部使用,我们知道Google的TPU非常好。我们知道,这就是为什么它们的利润率会不断上升、上升、再上升。我认为对Meta来说,他们的定制芯片也用于内部使用,这会让业务更高效。

但我看不到这样一个世界:Meta、Google、Microsoft、Amazon、Oracle,我是说,OpenAI、Antropic,名单还长着呢,它们不再向Nvidia订购GPU。

也许未来它们会订购,它们可能会订购得更少,但我不认为我们现在已经到了那一步。

As for the internal use, Google's TPUs we know is very good. We know we know that's why margins for them are going to go up and up and up. I think for Meta their custom chips also for internal use that's going to make the business more efficient.

But I don't see a world where Meta, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Oracle, I mean, OpenAI, Antropic, the list goes on and on. They don't order GPUs from Nvidia anymore. Maybe in the future they're order, they will order less potentially, but I don't think we're there just yet.

我认为当Jalapeno为OpenAI和Broadcom推出时,我们多少看到了对Nvidia股价的这种负面推动。

I think when Jalapeno came out here for OpenAI and Broadcom, we kind of saw this negative push towards Nvidia stock.

但我想再提出一个在我看来Nvidia面临的风险。我不认为AI是AI泡沫是一个真正的风险。它始终是值得考虑的事情。如果AI需求放缓呢?那是一个风险,我认为每个人都应该考虑。所以我不相信那个风险是真的。

But I would I want to bring one more risk in my opinion for Nvidia. I I don't think AI being a AI fake is is a true risk. It's always something to consider. What if AI demand slows down?

That's a risk and I think everyone should consider. So I don't believe that risk is true.

如果还有另一个风险,那就是Nvidia正以疯狂的水平增长。要让它们继续以这样的水平增长,你就需要不断建设多吉瓦级的数据中心,对吧?一个小的10兆瓦数据中心,一个小的100兆瓦数据中心,这不算小,但相对于Nvidia的整体规模来说,它能推动多少指针?

我们看到的一件事是,电力仍预计会是一个限制。如果出于某种原因,Nvidia无法获得足够多的电力来开启,那会怎样?那可能完全拖慢它,而不像其他一些玩家,一个100兆瓦的数据中心对它们来说仍可能是营收数字上的巨大跃升。

所以如果说有风险,那可能是电力和能源会给Nvidia制造一点障碍。它也可能给其他玩家制造障碍,但由于Nvidia产出的数字很大,它们的营收肯定会比其他玩家受到更大的影响。

If there was another risk is Nvidia is growing at mo at crazy levels. For them to continue to grow at these levels, you need to keep building multi-gawatt data centers, right? A small 10 megawatt data center, a small 100 megawatt data center, which is not small, but compared to the overall things for Nvidia, is it going to move too much the needle?

One thing that we're seeing is power is still expected to be a limitation. What happens if for some reason Nvidia is not able to get the right amount of power to be turned on? that can completely slow down opposed to like some of the other players where a 100 megawatt data center for them could still be a massive jump on the topline number.

So if there was a risk, it could be kind of like power and energy could create a bit of a hurdle for Nvidia. It could create a hurdle for other players, but because of the big numbers Nvidia's producing, their top line can definitely be impacted more than the others.

它一直是个笑柄,因为既然能买Nvidia,为什么要买AMD。这不是一个苹果对苹果的比较,但这就像在这个超级周期的极早期买入Nvidia。

It was always a laughing stock because of why buy AMD when you can buy Nvidia. It's not an apples to apples comparison but it was like buying Nvidia super early on in this super cycle.

尽管Nvidia就是Nvidia,那里的增长率仍然令人惊叹,但我们已经看到AMD持续增长得越来越快,拿走了整体收入的很大一块。

Although Nvidia being Nvidia, the growth rates there are are still mind-blowing but we have seen AMD consistently grow faster and faster take the large chunk of the overall revenue.

是的,对比如说非Nvidia、也许是非Nvidia的解决方案有巨大的需求。所以AMD推出了MI300系列,它仍然远远落后于Nvidia所提供的东西,尤其是在软件方面。

yes there is huge demand for let's say non maybe non-Nvidia solutions so AMD came out with MI300 series which was still way behind what Nvidia was offering especially also on the software side of things

当然,Nvidia也已经进入了CPU领域,而令人意外的是,Intel也把自己定位得相当好,以捕捉那里的上行空间。

Of course, Nvidia is has also entered the CPU space and surprisingly enough, Intel has also positioned itself quite well to to capture the upside there.

它们正在成为Broadcom和Nvidia之间的那个中间人。

They're becoming that middle person between Broadcom and Nvidia.

我认为Nvidia多年来做了大量工作,以确保其供应链得到完全、完全的优化。相比之下,Nvidia 更接近你说的 18、19 倍。

I think Nvidia has done a tremendous job over the years to make sure that their supply chain is fully fully optimized. compared to an Nvidia which is closer to what did you say 18 19 times.

而在当前的预期下,Nvidia 预计会以更大的金额实现更快的增长。就像我们两三年前在 Nvidia 身上看到的那样,当时他们几乎每一次都能超出华尔街预期 10%、15%、20% 左右。他们转而独家采用 Nvidia。

While at the current expectations Nvidia is expected to grow faster at a larger dollar amount. like we see with Nvidia 2 three years ago when they literally beat Wall Street by by 10 15 20% or so every single time where they go exclusive Nvidia.

Neo,我要说的是,在这些价位上,我会觉得买 Nvidia 比买 AMD 更安心。所以,Nvidia 会是我的选择。

And Neo, I'm going to say at these price points, I would feel safer buying Nvidia than AMD. So, Nvidia is going to be my pick here.

我会选 Nvidia,纯粹是因为,是的,增长潜力。不过,你现在拿到的这个估值,在我看来荒谬至极,这就是我会选它的原因。

I would pick Nvidia purely because of yes, the growth potential. Still, the valuation, the valuation that you're getting right now is in my opinion ridiculous and that's why I would pick it.

如果我们一股都没有,零股,我现在倾向于选 Nvidia。

if we had zero is zero shares, I tend to lean towards an Nvidia right now.

看起来我们俩都选了 Nvidia。Nvidia 的多头们,让我们知道你们有多爱我们。

And it seems we both do with Nvidia. And Nvidia bulls, let us know how much you love us.

—而 Jensen,我不知道是不是在最近的一次会议上,他提到 Nvidia 是第一家价值成长型公司。他说了类似这样的话。就像它是一家估值极佳的公司,同时也是一家以疯狂、疯狂的速度增长…
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而 Jensen,我不知道是不是在最近的一次会议上,他提到 Nvidia 是第一家价值成长型公司。他说了类似这样的话。就像它是一家估值极佳的公司,同时也是一家以疯狂、疯狂的速度增长的公司。

And Jensen, I I don't know if it was at a recent conference, he mentioned that Nvidia is the first value growth company. He said something like that. It's like it's a company that's at great valuation and it's a company that's growing at crazy crazy levels.

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