TSLA的看涨论点取决于加速边缘案例映射的时间线;成功将使CyberCab实现指数级扩展,迈向605美元的目标价。
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这是埃隆·马斯克未出席的 CyberCup 活动后的第二天早上,对于特斯拉和 CyberCup,我们需要评估一些积极和消极的方面。
It's the morning after the CyberCup event that Elon Musk didn't attend, and there are some positive and negative aspects we need to assess for Tesla and CyberCup.
最重要的是,这个过程,我称之为“边缘映射”,我相信它将成为特斯拉未来的关键组成部分。最引起我注意的是 CyberCup 团队反复声称他们不使用地图,并且他们依赖一种完全基于视觉的策略。
Most importantly, this process, which I call " edge mapping," I believe will be a crucial component for Tesla in the future. The main thing that caught my attention was the CyberCup team's repeated assertion that they do not use maps, and that they rely on a strategy based solely on sighting.
我认为他们所做的是基于视觉的边缘映射。这里有一些与 Waymo 的比较,我们应该注意,因为它们会影响我们对特斯拉股票未来价格的预期,我们稍后会谈到。
I think what they are doing is vision-based edge mapping . There are some comparisons with Waymo here that we should be aware of because they will affect our expectations for the future price of Tesla stock, which we will talk about shortly.
Waymo 对于一辆车来说很昂贵,这是埃隆·马斯克的公正评价。我们认为特斯拉的“unbox 模式”坦率地说是一辆没有附加配置的车:没有内部玻璃车顶,没有后座,也没有手套箱。
Waymo is expensive for a vehicle, a fair assessment from Elon Musk. We believe that the Tesla “unbox model” is, frankly, a car without extras: no glass roof inside, no back seat, and no glove box.
它有一个屏幕,一个平坦的仪表板,看起来像警车后部的塑料,一个可以用水管冲洗的车架,非常适合用作车队。我的意思是,这辆车几乎没有豪华配置。
It's a screen, a flat dashboard, plastic that looks like the back of a police car, a frame you can hose down , great for use as a fleet. I mean, this is a car with almost no luxuries.
所以,让我们明确一点。非箱式制造工艺预计将使装配线的总长度减少 50%,并使其更快。我们不知道额外的速度有多少。我们知道,对于“Cyber Cab”的制造,已证实的生产能力约为每年 125,000 辆。
So, let's be clear about it. The non-box manufacturing process is expected to reduce the overall length of the assembly line by 50% and make it faster. We do not know how much extra speed. We know that the proven production capacity is approximately 125,000 vehicles per year for the manufacture of the "Cyber Cab".
这是特斯拉给我们的认可,这很好,并且稍后将变得重要。因此,我们预计“CyberCap”的成本会低得多。因此,我放了一个美元符号。这就像,你知道,便宜的快餐,一顿饭三个或四个美元符号,不是吗?
This is the recognition Tesla has given us, and it is wonderful and will be important in a moment. Therefore, we expect the cost of " CyberCap" to be much lower. Therefore, I put a one dollar sign . It's like, you know, cheap fast food for a meal for three or maybe four dollar signs, isn't it?
很明显,Waymo 使用全套传感器、激光雷达、视觉、雷达,以及对其运营区域的完整地图。另一方面,特斯拉不使用那种策略。他们使用基于视觉的策略,但这对特斯拉来说是一个主要问题,因为它非常昂贵,不是车本身,而是人类对复杂情况进行地图绘制的成本。
It is clear that Waymo uses a full suite of sensors, lidar, vision, radar , and complete mapping of the areas in which it operates. Tesla, on the other hand, does not use that strategy. They are using a vision-based strategy, but it is a major concern for Tesla, as it is very expensive, not in the car itself, but in the cost of human mapping of complex situations.
对复杂情况进行地图绘制只是有一个监督驾驶员的问题,他们认为这正是他们更新特斯拉汽车中全自动驾驶(FSD)软件的原因。
Mapping complex situations is simply a matter of having a supervising driver, and they believe that is exactly why they updated the Full Self-Driving (FSD) software in Tesla cars.
如果你不知道这一点,现在每次你停用 FSD 系统时,都会出现一个持续的弹出窗口,这意味着在你做出选择之前它不会消失。
If you are not aware of this, every time you deactivate the FSD system now, a persistent pop-up window appears, meaning it does not disappear until you make a selection.
他们想要的是你每次按下“哦,我停用系统是因为我要停车”时都停用系统。特斯拉对此不太关注。它在角落里有一点帮助,但不太重要。
What they want is for you to deactivate the system every time you press "Oh, I'm deactivating the system because I'm parking." Tesla doesn't pay much attention to this. It helps a little in the corner, but it's less important .
其他事情也是如此;他们也不太关注它们。安全,或者你的关键警报,或者导航警报。那是他们关心的。因此,你可以按下“关键”。他们想要修复所有这些复杂的情况。导航也是如此。它也很有用。所有这些东西本身都是有用的。
The same applies to other matters; they don't pay much attention to them either. Safety, or your critical alerts, or navigational alerts. That's what they care about . Therefore , you can press "critical ". They want to fix all those complex case scenarios. And navigation as well. It's also useful. All of these things are useful in themselves.
公平地说,停车辅助和导航辅助是有用的,但如果仅依靠特斯拉员工,通过关键干预来消除FSD系统中的所有复杂情况,成本极其高昂。
To be fair, parking is helpful, and navigation is helpful, but eliminating all those complex situations through critical interventions in the FSD system is extremely costly if relying solely on Tesla employees.
因此,他们实际上招募了几乎每一位特斯拉司机来处理那些复杂的情境。这就是为什么我在评论中看到很多人说:“嘿,我在休斯顿看到CyberCab汽车。我在德克萨斯州看到它们。我在拉斯维加斯看到它们。”太神奇了。
So, they have practically recruited every Tesla driver to deal with those complex situational scenarios. That's why I see so many people in the comments saying, "Hey, I see CyberCube cars in Houston. I see them in Texas. I see them in Vegas ." amazing.
在其他州,复杂情境的映射尚未完成,这些车辆的问题在于特斯拉是手动映射它们的。在这张来自佛罗里达州的照片中,你可以清楚地看到车内的方向盘。
The problem with these vehicles in other states where the mapping of complex situations is not yet complete is that Tesla maps them manually. You can see a clear steering wheel inside the vehicle in this shot from Florida.
所以,我认为他们正在做的是部署大约20辆由人类特斯拉司机驾驶的车辆,他们将使用“CyberCab”来映射他们想要扩展到的区域。
So, I think what they are doing is deploying about 20 of these vehicles with human Tesla drivers , and they will use " CyberCab" to map the areas they want to expand into themselves.
这是佛罗里达州的一个例子。另一个例子来自南佛罗里达。我相信之前的例子是在奥兰多。在这个例子中,你也可以在这里看到方向盘。
This is an example of a vehicle in Florida. Another example is from South Florida. I believe the previous example was in Orlando. In this example as well, you can see a steering wheel here.
所以,我不认为这令人惊讶。我不认为他们在隐瞒这一点,而且……他们停止了那音乐。我不认为这一定是坏事,但问题是它很慢。这就是问题所在。
So, I don't think this is surprising. I don't think they're hiding this, and... they stopped that music. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing, but the problem is that it's slow. And that's the issue.
我真的认为雇佣20个人驾驶这些带有方向盘的车辆的成本极高吗?不,问题在于时间。这可能是我们现在在映射复杂案例时面临的最大问题。
Do I really think that the cost of employing 20 people to drive these vehicles with these steering wheels is extremely high? No, the problem is time. This is probably the biggest problem we face now in mapping complex cases.
我认为我们在制造方面做得很好。我认为我们在技术方面做得很好,但只有在漫长的终端状态映射过程完成之后。我现在真正认为特斯拉投资者应该关注的是,奥斯汀花了12个月才达到几乎完全自动驾驶的出租车,不是吗?在一辆没有方向盘或踏板的车辆中。那就是奥斯汀。
I think we are doing well on the manufacturing side. I think we're doing well on the technology side, but only after the lengthy process of mapping the terminal states is complete . The part I really think a Tesla investor should focus on right now is that Austin took 12 months to get to nearly fully self-driving taxis , didn't it? In a vehicle without a steering wheel or pedals. That's Austin.
你现在真正需要看到的是将这些点压缩成三个月的城市验证周期。那将是理想的。因为我认为我们将远远超过Waymo机器人出租车的制造量。
What you really need to see now is compress those points into three-month verification cycles for the cities. That would be ideal. Because I think we will go way past the manufacturing of Waymo's robotic taxis.
所以,我们有一些估计,我们已经把它们放入了电子表格。据报道,Waymo在2024年7月有700辆机器人出租车上路,到2025年12月有2500辆上路,到2026年5月有3700辆上路。
So, what we have are some estimates that we have put into a spreadsheet. Waymo reportedly had 700 robot taxis on the road in July 2024, 2,500 on the road by December 2025, and 3,700 on the road by May 2026.
我刚刚在这里完成并添加了数字1500,以便我能得到一个实际的图表。但这给了你一个上升趋势的图表,可以这么说。特斯拉Cybercab已经从大约20辆增加到100辆,你知道。这些已经是无人驾驶车辆。所以,你在这里有一个更陡峭的曲线。
I'm just completing and adding the number 1,500 here so I can get an actual graph. But this gives you a graph of the upward trend, so to speak. The Tesla Cybercab has gone from about 20 to 100, you know. These are already driverless vehicles. So, you have a steeper curve here.
这不是特别有用,因为这些数字非常小,但它突出了非常重要的一点。我相信,这是我的观点,特斯拉的情况是,我们现在正处于一个关键转折点,关于我们映射终端状态的速度。仅此而已。
It is not particularly useful, because these are very small numbers, but it highlights something very important. I believe , and this is my opinion, that the situation for Tesla is that we are now at a critical turning point regarding how quickly we can map terminal states. That's all .
我同意。也许他们不是在映射整个事情,他们只是在映射极端情况,好吗?这是不同的。不要称它们为地图。好的。绘制极端情况,你知道吗?我们将简化事情。边缘阶段,好吗?特斯拉处于边缘阶段。
I agree. Maybe they're not mapping the whole thing, they're just mapping the extreme cases, okay? It's different. Don't call them maps. Good. Drawing the extreme cases, do you know what? We will simplify things. Edge stage, okay? Tesla is at the edge stage.
我们真正期待的是他们加速这一阶段的能力。因此,从边缘阶段到完成的过渡。这是特斯拉的关键点。在奥斯汀,花了12个月。也许在南佛罗里达,时间会缩短到8个月。
What we are really looking forward to is their ability to accelerate this phase . Therefore, the transition from the edge stage to completion. This is the crucial point here for Tesla. In Austin, it took 12 months. Perhaps in South Florida, the time will decrease to eight months .
这种升级越快发生——即从在拉斯维加斯、休斯顿或其他地方开始测试,到推出全自动驾驶出租车的时间——那将是特斯拉的转折点。
The faster this escalation occurs—that is, the time from the start of testing in Vegas, Houston, or elsewhere, to the launch of fully self-driving taxis— that will be Tesla's tipping point.
这时事情变得非常积极。为什么?因为他们实际上可以比Waymo制造得更快。如果我们到这里,最终看到Waymo在2027年底达到大约4000到5000辆,那也不算不合理,不是吗?所以,比如说12月31日,我甚至会慷慨一点。我称之为2028年。
This is when things become very positive. Why ? Because they can actually manufacture much faster than Waymo. It wouldn't be unreasonable, you know, if we went here and ended up seeing Waymo reach around 4,000 to maybe 5,000, say by the end of 2027, wouldn't it? So, let's say December 31st, you know, I'll even be generous. I'll call it 2028.
特斯拉可能会达到10万辆汽车。所以,这里的增长速度将是……让我们看看。让我们稍微调整一下数据参考。这里的增长速度看起来会相对一致,你知道,在图表上是一条相当平稳的线。
Tesla might reach 100,000 cars. So, the pace of growth here will be...let's see . Let's slightly adjust the data reference. The pace of growth here will look relatively consistent, you know, a fairly steady line across the chart.
但是,考虑到这里的增长率,让我们调整这些数据参考。这看起来会疯狂。如你所知,这将看起来是指数级的,因为你从一个非常低的基数开始。这简直会显得疯狂。
But, given the rate of growth here, let's adjust those data references. This would seem crazy. As you know , this will look exponential because you are starting from a very low base. It would literally seem crazy.
但这个转折点完全取决于他们多快通过准备阶段。一旦我们知道这一点,那么在我看来,你就可以更清楚地评估特斯拉的股票。
But this turning point depends entirely on how quickly they get through the preparation phase. Once we know that, then you can really assess Tesla's stock, in my opinion, more clearly.
所以,如果我分析我的特斯拉股票,我实际上认为我之前删除了“CyberCap”作为安全网。在我看来,在昨天的活动之后,你可以再次添加它。
So, if I go into analyzing my Tesla stock , I actually think I previously removed "CyberCap" as just a safety net. In my opinion, you can add it again after yesterday's event.
昨天的活动是一个短期的负面催化剂,因为人们会将其视为“买在谣言,卖在新闻”的案例,因为他们坦率地说在活动中失败了。
Yesterday’s event is a short-term negative catalyst because people will view it as a case of “buy on the rumor, sell on the news ” because they frankly failed at the event.
例如,埃隆应该在那里。埃隆应该确切地说我现在说的话。好吗?如果埃隆只是做了一个演示,穿好衣服,走上舞台,说:“看,我们不依赖地图。我们依赖视觉。我们在德克萨斯州奥斯汀花了12个月做到这一点。
我们认为在休斯顿可以在8个月内做到。我们认为在奥兰多可以在4个月内做到。你知道那意味着什么吗?这意味着我们进入的每一个后续城市——拉斯维加斯、丹佛、犹他州、这个、那个——砰,砰,砰。
背景中有一张地图,在蓝图上,或者其他什么。我们现在可以在3个月内从设置到完成这些东西。”如果他走上去说了那些,然后说:“这意味着到2027年底,我们可能有10万辆车上路,因为我们压缩了准备时间。”我们准备好了。股票今天会上涨20%。
For example, Elon should have been there. Elon should have said exactly what I'm saying now. Good? If Elon had just given a presentation, gotten dressed, walked onto the stage, and said, "Look, we don't rely on maps. We rely on vision . It took us 12 months to do this in Texas, in Austin. We think we can do it in 8 months in Houston. And we think we can do it in 4 months in Orlando. And you know what that means? It means that every subsequent city we go into —Vegas, Denver, Utah, this one, that one—boom, boom, boom. Here's a map in the background, on the blueprint, or whatever. We can now get this stuff from setup to completion in 3 months." If he'd walked up there and said that , and then said, "That means that by the end of 2027, we could have 100,000 vehicles on the road because we've compressed the time it takes to get things ready." We are ready to go. The stock would have risen by 20% today.
现在,CyberCup的收入实际上是什么样的?如果我们假设这占据了Uber市场份额的10%,当然Uber有全球业务,利润率为20%,这增加了大约12亿美元的营业收入。这很好。对于2030年的估值,它可能增加50美元的股价。
Now, what does CyberCup's revenue actually look like? If we assume that this captures 10% of Uber's market share, which of course has global operations , with a profit margin of 20%, this adds perhaps $1.2 billion in operating income. This is good. It adds perhaps $50 to the share value for a 2030 valuation.
我不认为那实际上是主要的资金来源。啊,“unboxing”过程(生产)。我实际上相信出售CyberCab车辆,然后让车队运营商运营它们,是特斯拉最有利可图的选择。
I don't think that's actually the main source of funds. Ah , the "unboxing" process ( production). I actually believe that selling CyberCab vehicles and then allowing fleet operators to run them is the most profitable option for Tesla.
我认为特斯拉应该验证技术,然后只出售它。我不认为他们应该参与运营这些汽车的业务。让别人承担消费成本。出售这些汽车。提前拿到钱。向他们出售全自动驾驶系统。让他们订阅全自动驾驶服务。
字面上制造高利润的“cybercabs”。出售高利润率的全自动驾驶系统。不要关心运输人员的琐事。只验证技术,然后出售那该死的车。我相信这是未来。
I think Tesla should validate the technology and only sell it. I don't think they should be involved in the business of operating these cars. Let others bear the costs of consumption. Sell these cars. Get the money in advance. Sell them a fully autonomous driving system. Get them to subscribe to the fully self-driving service. Literally manufacture high- margin "cybercabs" . Sell the fully autonomous driving system with a high profit margin. Don't concern yourself with the nonsense of transporting people. Just check out the technology and sell that damn car. I believe this is the future.
我现在正在加入我的估计,如你所知,这里销售400万辆汽车。所以,我认为特斯拉605美元的2030年目标价中有很多因素。
I am now putting in my estimates, as you know, sales of 4 million vehicles here. So, I think there’s a lot going on in Tesla’s $605 2030 price target.
它需要Semi卡车达到35亿美元的营业收入,几乎翻倍来自全自动驾驶订阅的收入,我想看到销售20万辆特斯拉机器人。我认为这个估计到2030年实际上是保守的。
It requires Semi trucks to reach $3.5 billion in operating income, nearly doubling the revenue from fully autonomous driving subscriptions , and I want to see sales of 200,000 Tesla robots. I think that estimate is actually conservative by 2030.
我想看到CyberCab或机器人出租车的收入大约10亿美元。如果我们把这些汽车卖给其他人,并真正达到那个转折点,最终数字可能会更高。
I want to see revenues from CyberCab or robot taxis of around $1 billion. It could end up being a higher number if we sell these cars to others and actually reach that tipping point.
但我们没有从埃隆那里得到任何指导,我们知道,当然,埃隆的时间表可能有点疯狂。如你所知,当他说一年时,可能会花三年。这就是为什么我们设定2030年的估计。
But we didn't get any guidance from Elon, and we know, of course, that Elon's timeframes can be a little crazy. As you know, when he says one year, it will probably take three years. That's why we're setting our estimates for 2030.
但我真的认为,如果他们做了我刚才说的,股票会表现非常好。但我不是特斯拉的员工。我不认为他们甚至想和我说话。我真的不在乎。因为这可能为观看这个的人创造真正的机会。
But I really think the stock will perform very well if they do what I just said. But I am not an employee of Tesla. I don't think they even want to talk to me . I really don't care. Because this could create a real opportunity for the people watching this.
如果你在南佛罗里达、奥兰多或休斯顿,并且看到完全自动驾驶的 CyberCab 车辆已经在那里部署,你应该留意它。他们是什么时候开始的?是什么时候发布的?
If you are in South Florida, Orlando, or Houston, and you see fully autonomous CyberCab vehicles being deployed there already, you should keep an eye out for it. When did they start? When was it published?
一旦这个周期从一年缩短到三个月,我们将达到机器人出租车的逃逸速度。在那之前,绘制所有罕见场景仍将是一个极其耗时的过程。
Once that period shrinks from one year to three months, we will reach the escape velocity of robotic taxis. Until then, mapping all rare scenarios will remain an extremely time-consuming process.
我认为这正是他们在奥斯汀刚刚经历的。这是对特斯拉股票最大的考验。这是未来对特斯拉股票最重要的事情。
And I think that's what they just went through in Austin. This is the biggest test for Tesla's stock. This is the most important thing for Tesla's stock in the future .
他说在等什么
这个频道对 $TSLA 的历次判断
Meet Kevin 在这只股票上共 8 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。