特斯拉的机器人出租车战略通过车队销售和税收优势提供高利润率;然而,该股票目前估值昂贵(PEG约5)。
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我认为特斯拉即将彻底摧毁优步。
I think Tesla is about to completely destroy Uber.
我认为原因是,在我看来,特斯拉即将接管优步。而今年优步和Waymo之间发生的事情让我真的认为特斯拉即将取得一些成就。
I think the reason for this is that Tesla, in my opinion, is about to take over Uber. And something that happened this year with Uber and Waymo makes me really think that Tesla is about to achieve something.
不,这不是关于为机器人出租车行程收费。相反,它是关于从与“CyberCap”相关的其他东西中赚钱。嗯,你看,特斯拉的股票自年初以来下跌了约19%。他极其难以预测。
No, it's not about charging for robotaxi rides. Rather, it's about making money from something else related to "CyberCap". Well, look, Tesla's stock is down about 19% since the beginning of the year. He was extremely unpredictable.
而且你知道,我并不是说这支股票会直线飞向月球。而且你知道,如果AI泡沫破裂,我们陷入深度、黑暗的衰退,它也不会具有韧性。很明显你会遇到问题。
And you know, I'm not here to say that this arrow will go straight to the moon. And you know, it won't be resilient if the AI bubble bursts and we enter a deep, dark recession. It's clear you're going to have problems.
但我认为关于特斯拉,有一些人们没有考虑到的因素,这些因素应该成为其估值的一部分。要理解这个组成部分、这种变化类型,以及这与特斯拉过去已经证明的东西有何关联,你需要了解我最初关于机器人的论点。
But I think there is something that people don't take into account regarding Tesla, which should be part of its evaluation. To understand this component, the type of change, and how this relates to what Tesla has already proven in the past, you need to know my original thesis on robotics.
起初我想,我不知道,老兄,似乎更合乎逻辑的是Waymo只能在优步应用内使用,你只需按下选择“我想要Waymo”。我想要自动驾驶,然后就会出现一辆Waymo或特斯拉的Robo-Taxi。
At first I thought, I don't know, man, it seems more logical that Waymo would only be available within the Uber app, and you would just press to select "I want Waymo". I want self-driving, then a Waymo or Tesla's Robo-Taxi appears.
Waymo证明了我的假设是错误的。这对特斯拉来说真的很重要,因为这意味着特斯拉的自动驾驶出租车应用也可以以这种方式或这种竞争力运作,在我看来这对特斯拉非常有利。
Waymo has proven my hypothesis wrong. This really matters when it comes to Tesla, because it means that Tesla’s self-driving taxi app can also operate in this way or with this competitiveness, which is very positive in my opinion for Tesla.
我的观点是,所有这些都指向特斯拉。特斯拉可以获得所有这些优势,再加上一件事。车队运营。现在,特斯拉可以在此基础上扩展,但为什么呢?那将是这项业务中利润率最低的部分。你为什么想要那样?
而不是直接将车辆卖给车队运营商,并让他们签订合同。
My point is that all of this points to Tesla. Tesla can get all of these advantages plus one more thing. Fleet operations. Now, Tesla could expand on that, but why? That will be the part with the lowest profit margin in this business. Why would you want that? Instead of literally selling vehicles to fleet operators and binding them to a contract.
这项业务实际上已经成为特斯拉潜在巨大利润率的产品。特斯拉过去已经证明,由于税收优惠,我们可以在这些车辆上实现高达30%的毛利率。
This business has actually become a potentially huge profit margin product for Tesla. Tesla has proven in the past that we can achieve a gross profit margin of up to 30% on these vehicles thanks to tax advantages.
我相信,人们可以大量且提前消费这些资产。换句话说,让我给你举个例子,好吗?假设你是一名牙医,你有一个非常大的商业设施;你拥有整个购物中心,好吗?而且你是自己的主要租户。牙医不是主要租户,但你知道我的意思。
不管怎样,好吗?我明智地投资并取得了成功。你有一个大好年头。你将有一百万美元的收入,因为你在牙科诊所做得很好。太棒了。好的,我们想扣除其中的一部分。那么,我们为什么不购买大量设备作为我们业务的一部分呢?
我不是税务专家,好吗?现在假设我说:“我有来自牙科诊所的100万美元营业收入,而我业务的另一部分将是出租特斯拉汽车。”
I believe that with the fact that people can consume these assets in large quantities and in advance. In other words, let me give you an example, okay? Let's say you're a dentist and you have a very large business facility; you own the entire shopping mall, okay? And you are the primary tenant of yourself. The dentist is not a prime tenant, but you know what I mean. Whatever it is, okay? I invested wisely and achieved success. You have a big year ahead. You will have an income of one million dollars because you are doing a great job at your dental clinic. amazing. Okay, we want to deduct a portion of this. Well, why don't we buy a lot of equipment as part of our business? And I'm no tax expert, okay? Now suppose I say: "I have a $1 million operating income from the dental clinic, and the other part of my business will be renting Tesla cars."
我将购买价值100万美元的CyberCab汽车,我预计会包含FSD订阅,所以这将没有完全自动驾驶。你必须将通货膨胀加到汽车价格25,000美元上,好吗?每个人都想要一辆25,000美元的汽车,但让我们现实一点,我们需要在那个金额上加上大约30%的通货膨胀。
坦率地说,这仍然被认为是——公平地说——埃隆承诺的25,000美元的汽车。我知道我不想让这听起来像是一种辩解或自我安慰。我只是觉得这有道理。所以,价格变成了32,500美元。除以32,500。
进入市场,购买30辆自动驾驶出租车。砰。我立即扣除了一笔我本来要缴纳500,000税款的金额。我刚刚支付了零税款。然后你也可以为这些特斯拉汽车融资,如果你愿意,还可以获得额外的税收优惠,或者预付一半金额,随你喜欢。
I will buy $1 million worth of CyberCab cars, and I expect there will be an FSD subscription included, so this will be without full self-driving. You have to add inflation to the car's price of $25,000, okay? Everyone wants a car that costs $25,000, but let's be realistic, we need to add about 30% for inflation to that amount. And frankly, this is still considered—fairly speaking—the $25,000 car that Elon promised. I know I don't want this to sound like a justification or self-consolation. I just think that makes sense. So, the price becomes $32,500. Divide it by 32,500. Enter the market and buy 30 self-driving taxis. Boom. I immediately deducted an amount that I would have had to pay 500,000 in taxes on. I just paid zero in taxes. Then you finance these Tesla cars as well, and get additional tax benefits if you want, or pay half the amount upfront, as you like.
特斯拉从融资回报中获得利息。特斯拉获得了定价权的优势,因为你给了人们巨大的税收抵免。特斯拉获得了不必处理清洁和充电的优势。特斯拉获得了预先出售那该死的汽车的优势。并且预先收取巨大的利润率,哇,特斯拉擅长什么?
以创新的方式大规模制造以降低成本。这就是CyberTrack所代表的。
Tesla earns interest from the returns on financing. Tesla gets the advantage of pricing power because you give people a huge tax credit. Tesla gets the advantage of not having to deal with cleaning and charging. Tesla gets the advantage of selling the damned car upfront. And collecting a huge profit margin upfront, and wow, what is Tesla good at? Mass manufacturing in an innovative way to reduce costs. This is what CyberTrack stands for.
不要再根据它可能从运营和运行一个低利润率的里程业务中赚多少钱来估值这家公司,这个业务将成为主流商品。哦,如果他们每英里能赚一美元呢?他们每英里不会赚一美元。他们将通过利用税收优惠来印钱,这些优惠给了他们在车辆上的定价权,使他们能够以可能更高的价格出售汽车。
他们可能以40,000美元出售,然后拿30、40、35%作为总利润。谁在乎呢?此外还有完全自动驾驶出租车订阅的99%利润率。这才是真正的钱所在。到目前为止,他们是唯一拥有这个的。
Stop valuing this company based on how much money it might make operating and running a low-margin mileage business that will become a mainstream commodity. Oh, what if they could earn one dollar for every mile? They won't earn a single dollar per mile. They will print money by taking advantage of tax benefits that give them pricing power on vehicles, allowing them to sell cars perhaps at a higher price. They might sell it for 40,000, then take 30, 40, 35% as total profits. Who cares? In addition to a 99% profit margin on full self-driving taxi subscriptions. This is where the real money lies. They are the only ones so far who have this.
我可能遗漏了一些东西,但特斯拉是如此令人难以置信地先进,简直难以置信。这就是为什么他们瞄准车队。这就是为什么他们有车队注册系统。出于这个原因,插头是直流插头。之后,特斯拉可以拿那些利润再投资于Optimus机器人。我相信这才是这家公司真正的论点。
I may be missing something, but Tesla is so incredibly advanced, it's unbelievable. That is why they target fleets. That's why they have a fleet registration system. For this reason, the plug is a DC plug. After that, Tesla can take those profits and reinvest them in Optimus robots. I believe this is the true thesis of this company.
现在,根据目前的估计,这家公司看起来非常昂贵。如果我们看特斯拉目前的市盈率相对增长比率,不幸的是它很高,我在这里并不是要告诉你它处于最低点或目前非常便宜。目前,根据其预测的收益,该股的市盈率相对增长比率大约为五。
Now, based on current estimates, the company looks very expensive. If we look at Tesla’s current PEG ratio, it is unfortunately high, and I am not here to tell you that it is at its lowest or very cheap at the moment. Currently, based on its projected earnings, the stock is trading at a PEG ratio of approximately five.
但关键是,在每英里收费、“Optimus”机器人或其他任何领域,对特斯拉有很多乐观情绪。我不知道我的论点何时会实现,或者他们多快能达到制造阶段。
But the point is that there is a lot of optimism about Tesla in areas such as per-mile charging, the "Optimus" robot, or whatever else. I don't know when my thesis will be realized, or how quickly they will reach the manufacturing stage.
目前,我们大约有 12.5 万辆汽车可以生产,这与“Cyber Truck”有关。采用“Unboxed”策略,我们还不知道这将带来多少利润率。但如果到本十年末,我不知道,也许到本十年末,我们会看到出租车机器人销售激增,我也不会感到惊讶。
Currently, we have approximately 125,000 vehicles that we can produce in relation to the "Cyber Truck". With the "Unboxed" strategy, we don't yet know what the profit margins for this will be. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was by...I don't know, maybe by the end of the decade, okay? Perhaps by the end of the decade, we will see a boom in sales of taxi robots.
现在,与其担心机器人出租车的每英里收入,你实际上同意我的观点,并说:“凯文,关键在于制造车辆,以及我们能卖出多少辆车。”只不过,我们不是以 18% 的利润率运营,而是将整个车队的利润率提高到 30%,因为我们将假设我们可以将这些车辆卖给那些能够以 35% 的利润率进行折旧的公司,并与业务的其他部分(目前为 18%,可能升至 22% 左右)计算平均值。因此,我们现在可以操纵这些目标价。
Now, instead of worrying about revenue per mile of robot taxis, you actually agree with my digital and say, "Kevin, it comes down to manufacturing the vehicles, and how many vehicles we can sell." Except that instead of running it with an 18% profit margin, we will raise the margin for the entire fleet to 30%, because we will assume that we can sell these vehicles to companies that can write them off with a 35% margin, and calculate the average with the rest of the business, which is currently 18%, perhaps rising to 22% or so. Thus, we can now manipulate these price targets.
因此,我们目前有 2030 年底的目标价,即 4 年的目标。说实话,现在大约是 3 年半。3.5 年的目标价是 605 美元。这包括了特斯拉机器人的收入。这可能过于乐观。你知道吗?
让我把特斯拉机器人从这里删除,好吗?因为我会保持保守。我们稍后再把它加回来。我们将特斯拉机器人的贡献设为零。啊,还有半挂卡车业务,以 3.5 进入。你知道吗?让我们严格一点。我们也把它设为零。好的,我们稍后再回来。我们将再次添加这些值。
Therefore, we currently have price targets for the end of 2030, i.e., targets for 4 years. Honestly, it's now about 3 and a half years. The price target for 3.5 years is $605. This includes revenue from Tesla's robot. This might be overly optimistic. Do you know what? Let me delete the Tesla robot from here, okay? Because I will simply be reserved. We'll add it again in a moment. We will set Tesla's robot contribution to zero. Ah, and the semi-trailer truck operation entered at 3.5. Do you know what? Let's be strict. Let's set that to zero as well. Okay, we'll be back later. We will add those values again
嗯,这仍然是我们现在销售的车辆数量的两倍。但现在我们要做的是从完全自动驾驶(FSD)中获取收入。我们从哪里得到这些?销售、租赁、服务、能源、FSD 订阅的营业收入。我们将在这里为 FSD 订阅再增加 10 亿美元,因为你会向车队运营商收取更高的费用,因为他们可以将其用于税收折旧。
记住,公司向其他公司收取更高的费用,好吗?就这么简单。
Well, that's still double the number of vehicles we sell right now. But now what we will do is take the revenue from full autonomous driving (FSD). Where did we get them from? Sales, leases, services, energy, operating income from FSD subscriptions. We're going to add another billion dollars to FSD subscriptions here because you're going to charge fleet operators higher fees because they can write them off for tax purposes. Remember, companies charge other companies higher fees, okay? It's that simple.
营业收入,我现在将把销售中的这一项改为 30% 作为混合百分比。我只是想让你看看这会如何变化,好吗?只需在 FSD 上增加 10 亿美元,以极高的利润率将最上面的最大项目提升到 30%。
请记住,我故意将 Optimus 和半挂卡车设为零。我之前甚至没有考虑过这一点。我只是有一种感觉,它会非常巨大,因为这一顶层项目是这项业务的引擎。
Operating income, I will now change this in sales to 30% as a mixed percentage. And I just want you to see how this changes, okay? Just add a billion to FSD with a very high profit margin to boost the largest line at the top to 30%. Keep in mind, I literally set the Optimus and the semi- trailer truck to zero on purpose. I hadn't even considered this beforehand. I just have a feeling it's going to be huge because this top line is the engine of this business.
哦,775。我的天。看,这种回报率是我喜欢的。现在,这需要什么?这需要每股收益 11.48 美元。这代表了我们现在的 10 倍。显然,市场并不预期,分析师也不预期,特斯拉目前会将其每股收益提高 10 倍。
Oh, 775. My God. Look, this type of rate of return is what I like. Now, what does that require? This requires $11.48 in earnings per share. This represents 10 times what we have now. Clearly, the markets do not expect, and analysts do not expect, Tesla to increase its earnings per share 10 times at the moment.
我来告诉你市场的预期。不是 10 倍。所以,谁知道呢?也许,只是也许,我在这里敲错了门。我认为这种刺激措施不会很快发生。可能还有许多其他负面触发因素。你知道,人们可能会在中期选举前后感到压力。
或者,也许美联储会犯错,开始过快加息。我不知道。愚蠢的事情可能发生。特斯拉对利率敏感。所以,如果他们提高价格,你知道,那将会很糟糕。
I'll tell you what the markets expect. It's not 10 times that. So, who knows? You know, maybe, just maybe, I'm knocking on the wrong door here. I don't think this stimulus should happen anytime soon. There could be many other negative triggers. You know, people can get stressed before or after midterm elections. Or, perhaps the Federal Reserve will make a mistake and start raising interest rates too quickly. I do n't know. Stupid things can happen. Tesla is sensitive to interest rates. So, if they raise prices, you know, it's going to be bad.
哦,1.66 美元是当前华尔街的估计。我们处于 34.7 加 40.7 加 63.4 加 47.6,增长率为 186%。这大约是那个数字的 3 倍。好的。所以,平均增长率约为 46%。
事实上,到 2030 年底将达到大约,哦,这就是我所做的。实际上更接近 4 年半,因为 2030 年底是我计算的方式。所以,实际上更像是 4.25。我们到了。所以,他们的每股收益是 7.58 美元。
我是 11.48 美元。所以,你知道,我仍然稍微高一点。11.48 除以……哦,这是什么?7.58。这意味着 50% 的差异。我可能只提前了一年半。时间线实际上可能只提前了一年半。
所以,即使你提前一年半,谁在乎呢?如果我必须将其调整为 5.75,那仍然是我投资的一个良好回报,14.8%,不是吗?
Oh, $1.66 is the current Wall Street estimate. We are at 34.7 plus 40.7 plus 63.4 plus 47.6, which is a growth of 186%. This is approximately 3 times that amount. Good. So, the average growth rate is about 46%. In fact, by the end of 2030 it will reach about oh, that's what I did. It is actually closer to 4 and a half years because the end of 2030 is how I calculate this. So, it's actually more like 4.25. Here we are. So, they have earnings per share of $7.58. I'm at $11.48. So, you know, I'm still a little higher . 11.48 divided by... Oh, what is this? 7.58. This means a 50% difference. I'm probably ahead of schedule by only a year and a half. The timeline may actually be only a year and a half ahead . So, even if you're a year and a half early, who cares? If I had to adjust this to 5.75, it would still be a good return on my investment, 14.8%, wouldn't it?
所以我认为他们实际上会用自动驾驶出租车做的是,将出售这些车辆(即“Cyber Cabs”)所赚的钱,再投资到“Optimus”项目中。18% 过渡到同情。现在,“Optimus”项目,我相信,是一个长期项目,从 2035 年延伸到 2040 年。
好吗?如果 CyberCab 的产量到 2030 年达到约 200 万辆,那么你就有资本和现金流,亲爱的,来再投资于 Optimus。然后,如你所知,小臂和手臂的特殊电机的问题将得到解决。
如你所知,到那时我们将找到解决方案。无论如何,这是我的观点。
So I think what they will actually do with self-driving taxis is take the money they make from selling those vehicles, the " Cyber Cabs," and reinvest it into the " Optimus" program. 18% to transition to compassion. Now, the " Optimus" program, I believe, is a long-term project that extends from 2035 to 2040. Okay? If CyberCab's production reaches two million units or so by 2030, then you will have the capital and cash flow, my dear, to reinvest in Optimus. And then, as you know, the problem of the small arm and the special motors for the arms will be solved. As you know, we will have found a solution to that by then . Anyway, that 's my opinion.
说实话,你我之间说说,如果特斯拉的股价再跌一点,这样我们就能有一个更有吸引力的入场点,那可能是件好事。但是,即使以目前 350 美元的价格,如果我们对“Cyber”策略的判断是正确的。这里有些道理。
Honestly, between you and me , it might be a good thing if Tesla's stock dropped a little more so we could have a more attractive entry point here. But , even at its current price of $350, if we are correct about the "Cyber" strategy. There's something to this.
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这个频道对 $TSLA 的历次判断
Meet Kevin 在这只股票上共 9 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。