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Meet Kevin发布 2026-09-09 · 41 段内容
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以下是我对 Apple iPhone Duo 以及 iPhone Pro 18 最新变化的个人看法。这显然就是 17 Pro Max,以及他们如何试图在 iPad Mini 这个领域竞争,而我们手边正好有一台。

Here's my personal reaction on the Apple iPhone Duo and the latest changes to the iPhone Pro 18. This obviously the 17 Pro Max and how they're trying to sort of compete in the iPad Mini space which we happen to have right here.

在我看来,这就是该不该买它,以及最终这会对 Apple 的股价产生什么影响。先说最要紧的,关于 Apple 股票,我们一开始就把话说清楚。我不是想吹捧这只股票。我想我只在退休账户里持有 Apple 的敞口。它甚至不在我的主要投资组合或主要敞口里。

In my opinion, that's should you buy it and ultimately what is this going to do to Apple's stock? First things first, let's be very clear just up front about Apple stock. I'm not trying to shill this stock. I think I only have exposure to Apple in my retirement account. It's not even in my main portfolio or my main exposures.

这只股票在这些活动上总是下跌。他们不会根据当天的股价走势来评判这场活动。那是新手的错误。所有已经进场的交易员早就在传闻中把利润做到最大,现在他们得套现了。所以,都是旧消息了。

This stock always goes down on these events. They don't judge the event based on the stock movement during the day. That's a novice mistake. All the traders who got into it already got maximized out on rumors and now they got to cash out. So, old news.

所以,通常在这种活动前几周你会看到一波上涨,而 Apple 股票实际上确实出现了这种情况。股价走势。如果你去看那几天的数据,你会发现股价的峰值实际上就是 Leopold 被平仓的那一天,之后我们再也没有回到那个水平。

那不过是 5 周前的事。想想还挺惊人的。我的意思是,现在这几乎感觉像是很久以前的历史了,但那只是 5 周前。

So, you usually get a pop a few weeks before an event like this which you actually did have in the Apple stock. Uh, you know, share price movement. If you go look at the days out, you could see the peak of the stock was actually the day Leopold got liquidated and we never made it back to that. That was just 5 weeks ago. Kind of remarkable to think. I mean, that almost feels like ancient history right now, but that was only 5 weeks ago.

我不是想拉抬 Apple 股票。

I'm not trying to pump Apple stock.

这让它更不适合佩戴。如果我现在要去和某人开一场非常重要的会,我会不会因为 Apple Watch 传递出的信号而觉得非戴不可——那个信号就是,我得听着,或者他们可能在录下我说的每一句话。

makes this less wearable. If I now go into a really important meeting with somebody, am I going to feel compelled to wear the Apple Watch because of the signal that it sends them that uh I got to listen, you know, or or they might be recording everything I'm saying.

Apple 刚刚把他们彻底击溃了。我认为他们是想用去年的销售额来 IPO,因为他们怀疑 Apple 即将把他们干掉。

Apple just destroyed them. I think they're trying to IPO using their last year's sales because they suspected that Apple was about to kill them.

Apple 现在推出的东西完全一样,心率感应的间隔也完全一样。现在,他们会更频繁地测量你的正常心率,这很棒,每 5 秒一次。我记得以前是 100 秒。他们会测量你的心率,但心率变异性现在已与 Aura Ring 相当。

所以,你现在某种程度上是在用这款新手表干掉 Whoop 和 Aura 可穿戴设备的功能——更好的睡眠追踪、准备度追踪、压力追踪,以及心率变异性,而这些正是构成这些变量的东西。

Apple is now coming out with exactly the same thing at exactly the same interval of heart rate sensing. Now, they're going to measure your normal heart rate more frequently, uh which is great, every 5 seconds. It used to be 100 seconds, I believe. They'll measure your heart rate, but heart rate variability is now matching the Aura Ring. So, you're kind of now killing the Whoop and the Aura wearable functionality of better sleep tracking, readiness tracking, stress tracking, uh and heart rate variability, which is what goes into these variables, with the new watch.

我确实喜欢 Apple Watch 的一点是,它内部将配备更快的冷静技术、更快的芯片组,尤其是用来解锁那款 iPhone Duo,而新的 iPhone Pro Max 18 和普通 18 将拥有更快的隔空投送,这真的很有用,因为隔空投送,我不知道是怎么回事,它变得慢得要命。

I do like in the Apple Watch that they're going to have uh you know, faster calm technology inside of it, faster chip sets, for especially unlocking that iPhone Duo, uh and the new iPhone Pro Max 18 and regular 18 will have faster air dropping, which is really useful because air dropping, I don't know what it is, it's gotten really freaking slow.

他们还推出了生物学年龄功能,这简直就是对可穿戴设备的照搬。而且他们现在有个功能,你不再需要到户外运动来测量你的 VO2。VO2 通常会追踪你的 GPS、移动距离和心率,然后他们就能计算出他们认为你的 VO2 是多少。

现在他们有个功能,你可以原地跑,几乎就像在玩 Wii Fit 一样,它就能测出你的 VO2。

they're also coming out with the biological age features, which is literally a rip off of the wearables. And they're having a thing where now you don't have to go on exercise outside to measure your VO2. VO2 generally tracks your GPS, uh, distance moved, and your heart rate, and then they can calculate what they think your VO2 is. Now they have a thing where you can run in place, almost like you're playing the Wii Fit, and it'll measure your VO2.

整个健康应用要到今年晚些时候才会发布,但我觉得那真的很有意思,因为就像,现在我们在从 Wii Fit 偷,从可穿戴设备偷,而一如既往,Apple 很可能会把这一切都做得更好。

This whole health app won't be released until later this year, but I thought that was really interesting because it's like, now we're stealing from the Wii Fit, we're stealing from the wearables, and as usual, Apple will probably do it all better.

我确实喜欢的一点是,他们之前那款超薄版 iPhone 大概是这样做的:他们利用了那款的技术来帮助打造 Duo,因为他们谈到这个航空级钛金属边框以及它有多薄。它比普通 iPhone 薄得多,因为他们把大量芯片组压缩进了摄像头镜头的区域。

I do like that the what they probably did with the you know, prior thin version of the iPhone is they utilized the tech in that to help build the Duo because they talk about this aerospace titanium frame and how thin it is. It's way thinner than the normal iPhone because they've compressed a lot of the chipset into the camera lens area.

我确实喜欢他们在 iPhone Pro 和 Pro Max 上谈到的可变光圈。如果你想和一群人拍一张人像自拍,或者想拍一张有很多人的好照片,这真的很有用。现在的 iPhone 常常会在两个人之间来回切换对焦。

所以,你想拍出漂亮的虚化,但结果却把一个人虚化掉、又虚化另一个人,你只能这样来回折腾才能拍到那张照片。挺烦人的。这就是他们想用可变速率或可变光圈来解决的问题,而可变光圈基本上就是镜头实际能进多少光。

I do like the variable aperture that they talked about in the iPhone Pro and Pro Max. That's really useful if you're trying to take like a portrait selfie with a bunch of folks or you're trying to get a good picture with a bunch of people in it. It's very common that the current iPhone kind of like fades between focus between two different people. So, you're trying to get the nice blur, but then you're blurring one person out and the other and you're kind of like trying to do this to get the shot. Kind of annoying. That's what they're trying to solve with a variable rate or variable aperture, which is basically how much light the lens actually lets in.

不过,Duo 才是这里最抢眼的主角。我真的在意 Pro 上通过 A22 纳米芯片带来的 CPU 快 20%、GPU 快 40%、内存带宽多 50%,或者电池稍微好一点吗?不在意,或者这个可变光圈。其实并不在意。

The Duo is the showstopper here though. The you know, do I really care about 20% faster CPU, 40% faster GPU on the Pro via the A22 nanometer chip and having 50% more memory bandwidth or slightly better battery? Not or this variable aperture. Not really.

对于那些制作不只是对着镜头说话或像我这种普通内容、而是更复杂的视频内容的人来说,它会有用吗?当然。但我认为对绝大多数人来说,Duo 非常棒。

Is it going to be useful for people who are making like video content that's more than just talking head or generic like my stuff? Sure. But, I think for the vast majority of people the Duo is freaking awesome.

Duo 很棒。我认为它有很多实用用途。我很喜欢把它架起来、让它自己立起来,然后让它的屏幕以 1 Hz 刷新率显示这个想法,对吧?比如 iPhone 上的息屏显示,这台刚刚亮了起来。

所以它看起来像是开机了,但它其实总是看起来像关着的,因为它就躺在某张桌子上。所以,我看到了它这个角度的价值。但如果你能把它立起来,你就能更多地拥有这种随时装在口袋里的笔记本电脑,你把它架起来用于息屏显示来查看通知之类的。我对此很兴奋。

Like the the Duo is great. I think there are a lot of functional purposes for that. Love the idea of like setting it up and having it stand up itself as well and then have its display on that 1 Hz refresh cycle, right? The always-on display that you have for example on the iPhone, which this just woke up. So, it made it look like it was turning on, but uh it always looks like it's off because it's lying down on a table somewhere. And so, you know, I see like that sort of angle of it. But, if you could stand it up, you could have more of this sort of laptop that's in your pocket all the time, and you set it up for that always-on display for notifications or whatever. I'm excited about that.

但我认为这对 Apple 来说是一次相当令人印象深刻的发布,其中大部分我都很喜欢。

But, I think this was a pretty impressive release for Apple, and I'm a big fan with the majority of this.

有些功能我会关掉,或者用起来觉得不舒服,但那是我的问题。总体而言,我认为这是一次相当不错的进步。我不喜欢 Duo 没有 Face ID。这以后会有的。我会习惯的。我用 Mini 那会儿就习惯了。

我每次还是会抱怨。我会说:“拜托,老兄。拜托。”因为如果你的手指出汗或者沾上脏东西,它就不像你的脸那么好用。我不知道,就是很烦。如果你一直戴着手表,用手表解锁也还行。

There's some features I will turn off or feel uncomfortable using, but that's me. Overall, I think this is a pretty good leap forward. I don't like that the Duo doesn't have Face ID. That'll come in the future. I'll get over it. I got over it with the Mini ish. I still complain every time. I'm like, "Come on, man. Come on." Cuz if your finger gets sweaty or you get some dirt on it, it's like not as functional as your face. I don't know, it's annoying. Unlock with watch is fine if you're wearing your watch all the time.

那么,这对股价有什么影响?股价本身并不便宜。它相对偏贵,而在我看来,推高它的原因之一就是这种偏贵的估值层级。它的 PEG 是 3.69,分析师预期未来 4 年平均增长约为 9.5%。

它的 PEG 超过三倍。未来的市盈率超过 30,而增长低于 10。两者一除,PEG 就超过三倍。相对于你能买到的其他公司,这偏贵。

Now, how does this affect the stock? So, the stock itself is not cheap. It's relatively pricey, and one of the reasons it's driven up, in my opinion, is just sort of this pricey element tier, if you will. It's trading for a 3.69 PEG with 9 and a half-ish percent analyst expected growth average over the next 4 years. You know, this is trading for over a three PEG. Price-to-earnings ratio in the future is over 30, and growth is under 10. That's over a three PEG when you divide the two. That's pricey relative to other companies you can buy.

但这可能是因为市场预期 Apple 的增长会高得多。我也这么认为。我认为 Apple 很可能会因此增长。

But, this could be because markets are anticipating Apple's growth is going to be a lot higher. Myself included. I think Apple will probably grow because of this.

是的,Duo 会蚕食一些 iPad 的销量吗?会。但它足够新,以至于那些增量 iPad 买家身边已经放着两三台 iPad 了。他们对买新 iPad 不兴奋。他们对买 Duo 很兴奋,因为它是新东西。

Yes, is the duo going to cannibalize some iPad sales? Yes. But, it's new enough to where your incremental iPad buyer already has like two or three iPads sitting around. They're not excited about buying a new iPad. They're excited about buying the duo cuz it's something new.

而手机互换这个功能确实为那些想用两部手机的人打开了可能性。一部放在家里,基础款,去掉所有烦人的应用、通知和其他乱七八糟的东西,而且更小更轻。另一部则拥有你工作所需的一切。触控笔、完整的应用功能,以及我们谈到的其他一切。我认为会有一些人选择这种方式。

And the phone swap thing does open the potential for people who want to use two phones. One for home, you know, basic, stripped of all the annoying apps and notifications and all the other crap and it's smaller and lightweight. Uh and then one that has everything that you need for work. The stylus, the full app functionality, you know, whatever else we talked about. I think there are going to be some people who go for that.

而且我认为 iPhone 接力套件功能和 Duo 确实打开了一个尚未反映在股价中的增长方向。尽管传闻已经反映了这一点,但太多人会说:“哦老兄,随便吧。谁在乎?”比如“Siri AI,那才是下一个增长层级。”

不。今天每个用 Siri 的人都知道它很烂。人们买 iPhone 之类的并不是为了那个语音助手。我尽量不触发那个名字。人们买它是因为硬件。所以 Siri 变好是理所当然的。我们都这样:“好吧,我们知道。

总有一天它会变好。现在还不够好。总有一天它会变好。”

And I think that iPhone handoff suite feature and the duo do open up a growth vertical that is not priced into the stock. Even though the rumors priced in, too many people are like, "Oh man, whatever, dude. Who cares?" Like, "Siri AI, that's that's where the next level of growth is." No. Like, everybody who uses Siri today knows it sucks. And people aren't buying the iPhone or whatever for for that to, you know, voice assistant. I'm trying not to trigger the name. People are buying it for the hardware. And so, Siri getting better is like by default. We're all like, "Okay, we know. One day it'll be better. It's not good yet. One day it'll be better."

所以,我认为这实际上打开了一个新的增长类别。它肯定会吃掉可穿戴设备市场的很大一部分,这对 Apple 来说是通过 Ultra 3 取得的一场胜利。

Uh so, I think this actually opens up a new growth uh category. Uh it definitely eats a lot of the wearables market, which is a win for Apple uh via the Ultra 3.

不过,整个 Apple 健康和 AI 顾问那套东西要到今年年底才会推出。那会挺酷的。我确实喜欢那个。我想看到 Apple 版本的推荐通知、推荐锻炼之类的功能。我确实觉得那很酷。

Although, that whole Apple health and AI advisor stuff isn't coming out until the end of the year. That'll be kind of cool. I do like that. I'd like to see Apple's versions of, you know, suggested notifications or suggested workouts or this that or whatever. I do think that's cool.

总体而言,我印象深刻。这场发布会正是我想要的,甚至更多。比如接力功能并不在传闻中。对我来说,我可以把它架成三脚架,或者在我给孩子们拍照时逗他们玩,这些都是额外的好处。手表上的健康更新,完全符合我的预期。

Uh overall, I'm impressed. This is This event is exactly what I wanted and more. Like the handoff feature wasn't in the rumors. The reality to me that I could set this up as a tripod or to entertain my children while I take photos of them. Those are all bonuses. The health updates on the watch, exactly what I was expecting.

他们会失去一些 iPhone Pro Max 用户。我不会买 18 Pro Max,因为我不需要更多了。也许我会买那款新的超薄机型,但我会买一部 Duo。我认为很多人都会这么做。

于是突然之间,你就把我从 1200 美元手机的买家变成了 2000 美元手机的买家。所以,你在最低存储容量上就把我给你的收入提高了 66%。

Uh they are going to lose some iPhone Pro Max users. You know, I'm not going to buy the 18 Pro Max cuz I don't need any more. Maybe I'll get the new thin one, but uh I'll get a Duo. And I think that's kind of what a lot of people will do. And now all of a sudden you just moved me up from a $1,200 phone buyer to a $2,000 phone buyer. So, you you just increased your revenues on me at the lowest storage level by 66%.

这些东西会缺货。我认为它们会比人们想象得快得多地售罄。而且这实际上非常令人印象深刻,Apple 的增长很可能会被写进报道。

These things are going to have shortages. I think they're going to sell out way faster than people think. And And it's actually very impressive, and Apple's growth is probably going to get written up.

它会被写进报道以证明 3.6 倍的估值合理吗?大概不会。这仍然是偏高的估值。我们有很多地缘政治担忧、利率担忧,以及所有那些废话之类的。

Is it going to get written up to justify a 3.6 bag? Probably not. You know, it's still a rich valuation. We got a lot of, you know, geopolitical concerns, interest rate concerns, you know, all that bull crap or whatever.

但就我个人而言,我对此非常兴奋。当这重新评估该股的增长时,如果我们能达到15%,即便在今天,这也是买入Apple的合理价格。

But personally, I'm very excited about this. When this re-rates the growth for the stock, you know, if we get to 15%, it's a fair price to buy Apple even today.

如果我们因为OpenAI正在购买市面上所有的Mac Ultra而重新评估它,他们可能达到20%的增长,那么突然间它就会显得便宜。

If we re-rate this because OpenAI is going and buying all the uh Mac Ultras out there, you know, they could get to the 20% growth, and all of a sudden they're going to look cheap.

因为如果Apple能实现20%的增长,我们稍后就会在这里做实际的计算。然后我想向你们展示这也解锁的其他一些东西。我们会调出他们最新的财务报表。

Because if I get 20% growth on Apple, here we'll do the actual math on it in just a moment. Uh and then I want to show you some of the other things that this also unlocks. We'll uh we'll pull up their latest uh financial statement.

所以,我们预测的每股收益是8.83美元。而根据分析师的预期,未来四年的预测增长是:明年每股收益873,之后1128,之后1079,之后841。除以四,我得到9.8%的增长,对吧?

So, earnings per share that we have on the forecast are $8.83. And forecast growth for the next four years per analyst expectations, 873 next year on EPS, 1128 thereafter, 1079 thereafter, 841 thereafter. Divided by four gets me to 9.8% growth, right?

所以,假设股价是317美元,除以8.83。这让我得到35.9倍。这很贵。但是,如果我在增长尺度上除以九,我就更接近4倍的PEG。我在那里稍微四舍五入了一下。如果我除以20%的每股收益增长,因为他们可以把利润率拉高,那么突然间这只股票的交易价格就只有1.79倍的PEG。

So, I'm at a $317 stock, let's say, divided by 8.83. That puts me at 35.9 times. It's pricey. But, if I divide Well, if I divide it by nine on a growth scale, you know, I'm closer to a four peg. I rounded it a little bit there. Uh if I divide it by 20% earnings per share growth because they can jack those margins up, then all of a sudden the stock is only trading for a 1.79 peg.

在我看来,这意味着这只股票实际上有大约50%的上涨空间。所以,如果我在317美元上加50%,我就到了将近500美元,476美元。

That, in my opinion, means the stock actually has some upside in it of about 50%. So, if I add 50% to 317 bucks, I'm sitting at almost $500, $476 bucks.

而且,在我看来,这是那种你不必买入后就担心他们会不会创新失败而破产的股票。他们会落后吗?会。但是,他们会完全创新失败、破产并被AI取代吗?不会。

And And this is the kind of stock that, in my opinion, you don't have to buy and worry about are they going to like fail to innovate and go be bankrupt? Are they going to be late? Yes. But, are they going to totally fail to innovate and go bankrupt and get replaced by AI? No.

这是一家非常棒的公司。所以,我个人对此非常兴奋。我喜欢这次产品发布。我认为这对他们正在做的事情来说很有创意。

This is a great freaking company. And so, I personally am very excited about it. I like the product release. I think it's a creative to what they're doing.

而且我相信,随着未来内存成本下降,Apple实际上会保持这些较高的价格点。猜猜谁在利润率上获得了这部分?Apple。Apple获得了它。

And I believe that as memory costs come down in the future, Apple's actually going to keep these higher price points. And guess who picks that up in margin? Apple. Apple picks it up.

哦,现在有人宣布,查一下Duo的定价,2TB为3199美元。是的,我认为大多数人不会需要2TB。我觉得那有点过分。我认为一些4K拍摄者会需要,但我认为他们会使用Pro Max。那才是他们的目标受众,配有可变光圈镜头。

Oh, and somebody now is announcing that uh check the Duo pricing at $3,199 for 2 terabytes. Yeah, I don't think um most people are going to need 2 terabytes. I think that's a little excessive. Uh I think that some 4K filmers will, but I think they're going to be using the Pro Max. That's that's sort of their you know, target audience there with a variable aperture lens.

但如果我打开我手机上设置,我有,嗯,让我看看。关于本机,现在,像你加拿大人一样,我有512。我对512满意。它从256起步,1999。你知道,我会不会,我的负载是多少?我不知道有多满。

因为每个人都讨厌在这玩意儿上空间不够用。我有143可用。老实说,我可能会选择2499或2599的1TB版本。不管实际价格是多少。我可能被说服升到1TB,但我不认为两个TB完全必要。

But if I go to the settings on the phone that I have, uh I have Well, let's see here. About general about Now, like you Canadian, I got 512. I'm okay with 512. It starts at 256 at 1999. You know, would I And what's my my load on this? I don't know how full am I. Cuz I Everybody hates running out of space on this crap. I have 143 available. I honestly would probably go for like a 2499 2599 version at 1 TB. Whatever that actual price is. I could be convinced to go up to 1 TB, but I don't think two is entirely necessary.

所以,这总体上就是我的看法。乐观。我喜欢这里正在发生的事情。显然,你知道,这里会有很多分析师重新评级和预期调整,但对我来说,这是Apple的一次绝佳举措。

So, that's overall my take. Optimistic. I like what's going on here. Obviously, we got you know, there'll be a lot of analyst re-rating and expectations here, but for me, this is this is a fantastic move by Apple.

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Meet Kevin 在这只股票上共 10 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。

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苹果股票现在跌了大约 1%,发布会这边刚结束。你能看到那种典型的波动。发布会当天股票下跌并不罕见。几乎每次都这样。这也是我们今天早上在 alpha 报告里说的。我们说,兄弟,它每次都跌。没有保证,但之后它每次都跌。
原话 01:56 ›
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以下是我对 Apple iPhone Duo 以及 iPhone Pro 18 最新变化的个人看法。
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有许多人预期苹果的股价会下跌,他们说:“这太荒谬了,谁会想要那个?”
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