NVDA 看多逻辑:技术面突破 227 关口预示硬件行情;基本面显示估值相对同业便宜、供应大量锁定、CPU 营收持续增长。
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显然,Nvidia正好落在我的227这条线上。
Obviously, Nvidia is right on my 227 line.
除此之外,你还——你跌破了我们Nvidia的727这条线。你知道,我甚至都没提这一点。我很确定那也在alpha报告里。让我快速去看一下。Alpha报告。看看。呃,alpha 921。
所以今天早上关于Nvidia,我们有没有写——哦,对。找到了。好。如果Nvidia今天能守住220大约10分钟,我预计今天会走稳到上涨,因为本周看涨。油价下跌、地缘政治有进展、利率预期下降。
Nvidia应该很快就会突破22706。一旦突破,就会开启硬件行情2.0。
And on top of that, you got uh a um you broke our 727 line on Nvidia. You know, I didn't even mention that. I'm pretty sure that was in the alpha report, too. Let me go look really quick.
Alpha report. Let's see. Uh alpha 921. And so this morning on Nvidia, did we put Oh, yeah. There we go. Okay. If Nvidia holds 220 for about 10 minutes today, I expect stable to up cues today on bullishness for the week.
Oil down, geopolitical progress, rate expectations down. Nvidia should break 22706 soon. When it does, that ushers in hardware rally 2.0.
作为对比,Nvidia的承诺额是它的好几倍。我想说大概是2000多亿美元。Nvidia的财报。我们把它调出来。那么,我们来看这里的承诺。30两个项目。不对,我们应该有——大概是2800亿美元或者类似这么夸张的数字。
未来承诺供应,数十亿。来了。总承诺。未来承诺。所以从现在到2030年,我认为这就是AMD所披露的口径,2030年及以后是561。所以在——哇,看看这个。从现在到2030年的未来承诺总额。
在那之后,他们只有几百万。所以总共300亿美元。这里我有一直延伸到2029年的供应承诺。所以如果我只算到2029年,取2030年还是2029年都无所谓。无所谓。算到2030年,Nvidia的承诺是120加100加98加16。
我们把它记一下。120加100加98加16,等于334。所以这是Nvidia在锁定供应。Nvidia的承诺是2027年,我想。对,2027年。等一下。它说的是剩余部分,好吧。但那是财年。
哦,真烦人。我讨厌他们这么干。所以实际上他们这边对应的应该是2031年。不管怎样,按财年调整到2031年。那这个倍数是多少,因为Nvidia承诺了3340亿美元,而这里是30。
是10倍——30、31倍,不对,抱歉,11倍。Nvidia的供应承诺是11倍。这很有意思,因为,你知道,Nvidia的规模大约是AMD的五倍,而AMD 2027年的预期营收是88.1。
如果我去看Nvidia,让我看看能不能调出Nvidia。Nvidia、Nvidia、Nvidia,大概会是4800亿美元左右。呃,410。好。4105亿美元,也就是410.5除以18.1。
不对,这个算法不对。410除以88.1是4.6。4.6倍。所以基本上,按规模和营收调整后,Nvidia每1美元的承诺——Nvidia的承诺是2倍。呃,你知道,你可以说这基本上就是锁定了供应。
好,这是个有意思的对比,但这并不说明Nvidia不好。只是我喜欢做这种对比。好,承诺这块就到这里。
Nvidia's commitments, just for comparison, are a multiplier on that. I want to say they're like 200 something billion bucks. Nvidia earnings report. Let's pull that. So, let's go to commitments here. 30 two items.
No, we should have it's like $280 billion or something crazy like that. Future commitments supply billions. Here we go. Total commitments. Future commitments. So between now and 2030, which I think is what AMD is disclosing, 2030 and thereafter 561.
So between Oh wow, look at this. Total future commitments between now and 2030. And then after that, they only have millions. So $30 billion total. Here I've got commitments for supply going out to 2029.
So if I just go out to 2029, it doesn't matter if I take 2030 or 29. It doesn't matter. Going out to 2030, commitments from Nvidia are 120 + 100 + 98 + 16. Let's write that down for a second.
120 + 100 + 98 + 16. that equals 334. So this is Nvidia locking up supply. Is Nvidia's commitment 2027 on I think. Yes, 2027. Wait a sec. It says remainder of ah okay. But that's fiscal year.
Oh, it's so annoying. I hate that they do that. So really they're 2031 is the comparison over here. whatever to 2031 adjusting for fiscal year. So that is what multiplier is that cuz that's 334 billion committed by Nvidia versus 30 here.
It's 10x 30 31x no sorry 11x. Nvidia has 11x the supply commitments. That's interesting because it's, you know, Nvidia is about five times the company and revenues for AMD are expected to be 88.1 2027 revenues AMD.
And if I go to Nvidia, let me see if I can get Nvidia. Nvidia, Nvidia, Nvidia, it's going to be like $480 billion or something like that. Uh 410. Okay. 410.5 billion which is 410.5 divided by 18.1.
No, that math isn't right. 410 divided by 88.1 is 4.6. 4 point stop at 4.6x. So Nvidia basically for every dollar of commitment like size size and revenue adjusted Nvidia has 2x the commitments.
Uh you know you could argue supply secured basically. Okay that's that is an interesting comparison that doesn't make Nvidia bad. It's just I like comparing that. Okay so that's on commitments.
Nvidia的现金流量表。兄弟,这简直不公平。购置厂房及设备700亿美元,是多长时间内的?六个月700亿美元。我的天。他们做了4。所以这几乎是20倍。70除以4,17.5倍,Nvidia的购置、短期投资,然后他们还在回购股票吗,还是在做什么?
对,他们在回购股票,这没问题,但那其实只是为了抵消股权激励。回购股票以抵消股权激励。好,在某种程度上,不是全部。如果我看他们的资产负债表,这应该没问题。我有10、11、12。那些是整整100亿美元。
12,抱歉,整整120亿美元的应付账单。哦,不过我们够了。我们有130亿美元现金。所以,付账单绰绰有余。7.2,呃,应收账款,再加上显然还有存货,存货8.4。所以,我们这边没问题。
长期债务,名义上,基本上没有长期债务。好。呃,净现金。好。那么,这是他们的营收。呃,他们的毛利润翻了一倍,这很棒。所以他们的毛利率,6203除以11536,53.7%的毛利率,你知道,Nvidia是75%,我再次做这些对比,是因为我觉得看到这一点很有用,增长了3059,哎呀,3059除以7685是39.8%,之前增长8%。
大幅跃升,你知道,这很——这绝对是个大动作。这很了不起。他们去年亏钱。今年他们爆发式增长到20亿美元。所以,他们的净利率,净利1990,哎呀,1990除以11536,大约是17.2%。
2%的净利率。对,兄弟。Nvidia大约是50%的净利率。我是说,他们更成熟一些,但这根本不是一个公平的对比。但我认为这正是人们希望自己能遇到的,就是通过进入数据中心来获得这些利润率。
这就是这只股票飙升的原因。Meta的看涨期权覆盖了我多年的会员费。不错。太棒了。呃,净利润59688除以72142。对,兄弟。什么?抱歉,我除以了错误的数字。15。我正要说那些利润率太高了。
622。对。好。62%。这太疯狂了,兄弟。62%的净利率。他们是17%的净利率。这差距太惊人了。但话说回来,人们把Nvidia看作那个更小的——呃,更小的台阶,他们说:“哦,他们,你知道,他们会追上来。”
所以这基本上就是你现在面对的情况。这就是AMD正在酝酿的东西,这没问题。你知道,小盘股波动会大得多。但对我来说,这并不看空AMD。这是看多Nvidia。(笑声)这就是我的看法。
呃,这相当了不起。好。现在,呃,我想把我们在AMD上的所有东西都拆解一下。我们还会谈谈其他受益于此的公司,我觉得这会很有用,但我需要一杯咖啡,我需要去趟洗手间。所以,呃,然后我们再把所有东西过一遍。
Cash flow statement at Nvidia. Bro, it's just not even fair. Purchases of plant property equipment for 70 billion over what time frame? 70 billion in six months. Oh my gosh. They did four.
So that's almost 20x. 70 divided by 4, 17.5x at Nvidia purchases, short-term investments, and then are they rebying the stock, too, or what are they doing? Yeah, they're they are rebying the stock, which is fair, but that was they're really only buying back the stock to offset stock comp.
Buying back stock to offset stock comp. Okay. to some extent, not entirely. If I look at their balance sheet, this should be fine. I've got 10 11 12. Those are 10 full billion dollars. 12 or sorry, 12 full billion in bills to pay.
Oh, we got it though. We got enough. 13 billion in cash. So, plenty to pay the bills. 7.2 uh accounts receivable plus obviously inventories plus inventories 8.4. So, we're fine over here.
Long-term debt nominal nominal uh basically uh nothing long-term. Okay. Uh cash net. Okay. So, here's their rev. uh their gross profit has doubled which is awesome. So their gross profit margin 6203 divided by 11536 53.7% gross you know 75% at Nvidia again I'm just making those comparisons because I think it's useful to see that is up 3059 oops 3059 divided by 7685 is 39.8% 8% prior growth.
Big bump, you know, that's that's peepy. That's that's definitely a big move. That's impressive. They lost money last year. They've exploded this year to $2 billion. So, their net margin net at 1990, oops, 1990 divided by 11536 put them at about 17.2%. 2% net.
Yeah, dude. Nvidia is at like 50% net. It's I mean, they're they're a little more mature, but it's not even a fair comparison. But I think that's what people hope that they can run into is they can get these margins by getting into data centers.
That's that's why the stock skyrocketing. Meta call covered my membership years. Nice. That's awesome. Uh, net income 59688 divided by 72142. Yeah, that's bro. What? Sorry, I divided by the wrong number.
15. I was going to say those margins are way too high. 622. Yeah. Okay. 62%. That's insane, dude. 62% net income. They're at a net of 17. That's a wild difference. But again, people are looking at Nvidia as the smaller step row and they're like, "Oh, they're, you know, they're going to catch up."
So that's really what you got going on. That's what you got cooking with with AMD, which is fine. You know, smaller stocks going to move a lot more. But to me, that's not bearish AMD.
It's bullish Nvidia. [laughter] My take on that. Uh, which is pretty remarkable. So, okay. Now, uh I want to break that down all the stuff that we have on AMD. And we're also going to talk about other companies that benefit from this, which I think would be useful, but I need a coffee and I need to hit the restroom. So, uh and then we'll go through it all.
这正是Nvidia入局的原因。很多人忘了,Nvidia虽然是我们核心的GPU标的,但Nvidia预计会彻底击溃他们在CPU领域的竞争对手——那些更纯粹或相对更纯粹的标的,比如AMD。尽管AMD也提供GPU。
which is exactly why Nvidia got into the play. And a lot of people forget that Nvidia, while it's our core sort of GPU play, Nvidia is expecting to blow up their CPU competition for a pure play or more pure play like AMD. Although AMD also provides GPUs.
所以,Nvidia预计仅在2026自然年就有200亿美元的CPU需求。看看这个。Nvidia今天刚刚重新收复了727这条线,这很棒。
So, Nvidia is projecting $20 billion of CPU demand in calendar year 2026 alone. Take a look at this. Nvidia just today recaptured the 727 line, which is great.
他们一年前基本上营收为零,这实际上让 AMD,或者说让 Nvidia 成为 AMD 在 CPU 领域真正的竞争对手。
they basically had zero revenue at a year ago which actually makes AMD or sorry makes Nvidia a real competitor to AMD in the CPU space.
我的意思是,光看基准测试,他们的 Helios 系统,你对比 Vera Rubin,高带宽内存多 50%,横向扩展带宽多 50%,每秒 token 数多大约 10% 到 15%,所以 Helios 机架相对于 Vera Rubin 是一款很棒的产品,尤其是现在人们正想要这些 CPU,所以他们有一款质量非常好的产品,而且在某些基准测试上 AMD 确实能击败 Nvidia 的 GPU。
I mean just think about even the benchmarks alone their Helios system you're looking at versus the Vera Rubin 50% more high bandwidth memory 50% more scaleout bandwidth and about 10 to 15% more tokens per second so the Helios rack has been a great product versus Vera Rubin especially since people are wanting these CPUs right now so they've got a really good quality product and on some benchmarks AMD does actually beat Nvidia GPUs.
Vera Rubin中的Vera部分,也就是他们第五代EPYC Turin芯片,目前预计将达到数据中心所有CPU TAM(总可寻址市场)的约50%。
The Vera portion of the Vera Rubin, their epic Turan Fifth generation chip is right now projected to get to about 50% of all CPU TAM, total addressable market in data centers.
Nvidia 和 Apple 在 CPU 竞争上越是起飞,对 AMD 越不利。Nvidia 也加入进来,试图获取这一 TAM 的一部分,因为他们看到了大势所趋,要转向代理式人工智能的机会。
目前他们的目标是在 2030 年达到 50% 的 CPU 份额。再说一次,他们现在略低于这个水平,处于 30% 多的区间。不过他们预计营收会大幅增长。
The more you get Nvidia and Apple taking off on CPU competition for AMD. Nvidia coming in to try to get some access to this TAM as well because they see the writing on the wall to move towards agentic artificial intelligence opportunities.
Now their target is to get to 50% CPU by 2030. Again right now they're a little bit lower than that. They're in the high30s. They're expecting to grow revenue remarkably though.
如果你把全年880亿美元,与Nvidia仅从数据中心获得的营收相比,Nvidia一个季度就能做出相当于整个AMD的营收。
If you compare $88 billion for the entire year to just the revenue that Nvidia makes from data centers, Nvidia makes an entire AMD in revenue in one quarter.
现在,Nvidia 按市值计算是它的五倍。我们之后还会有更多它们之间的对比,但这就是为什么人们认为,如果下一个前沿是 CPU,而 Nvidia 是一家 5 万亿美元的公司,那有什么能阻止 AMD 也崛起呢。
Now, Nvidia is five times the size per market cap We'll have some more comparisons between them, but this is why people think if the next frontier is CPUs and Nvidia is a $5 trillion company, what's stopping AMD from being able to rise as well.
Nvidia 看到了这一大势所趋,因此他们也进军 CPU,这也是为什么 Nvidia 也是一个值得考虑的 CPU 参与者。然后是 Nvidia,我们还有什么?
And Nvidia sees this writing on the wall, hence why they're also getting into CPUs, which is why Nvidia is also a CPU player to consider. And then Nvidia, what else do we have?
而这正是 Nvidia 实际上有一点优势的地方。所以我不想在这里过多谈论 Nvidia。我持有我们这里提到的很多不同股票的敞口,所以我没有做空任何东西。我现在相当看多。
And this is where Nvidia actually has a little bit of an advantage. Uh, and so I I don't want to talk too much about Nvidia here. I've got exposure to a lot of the different stocks we're mentioning here, so I'm not short on anything. I'm pretty bullish right now.
不过 Nvidia 在大致相同的时间段内,在相同的时间框架内有 3340 亿美元的承诺。所以这意味着 Nvidia 锁定了 11 倍的供应量,而且他们是规模 5 倍的公司。
Nvidia, though, has $334 billion in commitments in roughly the same time, in the same time frame. So this means Nvidia has 11x the supply on lock and they're 5x the company.
公平地说,对 Nvidia 而言,其中很大一部分将属于内存。其中很大一部分也将属于他们的 GPU 业务。但内存非常重要。
In fairness for Nvidia, a lot of this is going to be part of memory. A lot of this is also going to be part of their GPU business. But memory is very important.
游戏业务实际上在大多数制造商,或者说设计商和制造商那里都在下滑,包括 Nvidia。这就是为什么 AMD 和 Nvidia 都加入这股潮流,试图尽可能多地锁定算力。
Gaming is actually in decline at most of the manufacturing uh or designers and manufacturers including Nvidia. This is why you have AMD and Nvidia jumping on this bandwagon of trying to secure as much compute as they can now.
但 Nvidia 正在这么做。他们经规模调整后的投入是 AMD 的大约两倍,可能是因为他们有更强的支付能力,基本上能够开出更大的支票。
But Nvidia is doing it. You know, they're they're getting twice as much size adjusted as AMD is probably because they have more of a capacity to pay and and they're able to write bigger checks essentially.
但值得注意的是,Nvidia 的毛利率为 75%。而 AMD 刚刚走出亏损,净利率为 17.2%。Nvidia 带到其利润线上的是 63%。
But it's worth noting Nvidia is sitting at 75% gross. And AMD just came out of a loss with a 17.2% net. Nvidia is bringing to their bottom line 63%.
如果我查看利润表,看 Nvidia 的营业利润,你看到的是 630 亿美元。这是 Nvidia 一个季度营业利润的 30 倍。
If I go to the income statement and I look at operating income for Nvidia, you are sitting at $63 billion. That's 30x the operating income in a quarter over at Nvidia.
但这样一来,我确实觉得 Nvidia 也有点被落在后面了,好像它没有参与到这场派对中。Nvidia 的估值现在极其便宜。你说的是一个只有 AMD 估值一小部分的估值。
But in doing so, I feel I do feel like Nvidia is also getting a little bit left behind. like it hasn't been part of the party. Nvidia's valuation is dirt cheap right now. You're talking about a valuation that is a fraction uh of AMD's valuation.
Nvidia 目前的交易估值大约是一倍,或者说大约 0.7 倍。所以,目前 AMD 的估值是 Nvidia 的两倍以上。
Nvidia is trading at about a one or about a.7. So you are more than two times as expensive at AMD right now as you are at Nvidia.
那么,有没有可能是 Nvidia 追上来,或者 AMD 慢下来?也许吧。我并不是在预测这种情况。我不会就此下空头赌注。
Is it possible then that either Nvidia catches up or AMD slows down? Maybe. I'm not calling for that. Like I wouldn't place a short bet on it.
如果你把它和 Nvidia 比较一下,我还没做过这个。我们来看一看。Nvidia 本周的中位大约在 59,当天大约在 58。所以,你可以从相对强弱的角度看出 Nvidia 是如何被落下的。
And if you compare that to Nvidia, I haven't done this yet. Let's go take a look at it. Nvidia's mid-range on the week at about 59 and about 58 on the day. So, you can kind of see on a relative strength basis how Nvidia is getting left behind.
你就会在 x86 架构上与 AMD 形成一对一的竞争,因为 ARM 很可能会继续是 Apple 和 Nvidia 的首选产品,而他们正在进军 CPU 市场。
and you'll be like one in one competition with AMD for uh x86 architectures because ARM is going to be the product of choice likely to stay this way for Apple and Nvidia and they are coming for the CPU market.
不过,关于合作,我觉得这一点非常有意思。你有 Apple 和 Nvidia 联手做 ARM。
Uh, regarding partnerships though, and this I think is very interesting. Well, you've got Apple and Nvidia with ARM.
所以,Lisa Su 确实会去找 Meta 和 OpenAI 这样的公司说:“嘿,你们能不能买下价值六吉瓦的我们的芯片?作为交换,我们会给你们股份。”这会造成稀释,但公平地说,与 Nvidia 的做法相比,这只是另一种形式的循环融资——Nvidia 是直接向公司投资,用他们拥有的额外现金流(他们比 AMD 多得多)去投资,然后由此创造需求。
So, you do have Lisa Sue going out to companies like Meta and OpenAI saying, "Hey, can you guys go buy six gigawatts worth of our chips? In exchange, we are going to give you shares." that is dilutive but in fairness it's just a different form of circular financing compared to what Nvidia does which is investing directly into companies the extra cash flow that they have which they have much more than AMD to give uh and then creating demand as a result of that
看这里,这是 Nvidia 的现金流量表,Nvidia 的现金流量表,如果我看这里,购买股权和债务证券,他们在截至 7 月 20 日的短短六个月内,实实在在地买入了价值 420 亿美元的他人股权,或者 400 亿或 210 亿美元的他人债务。
look over here this is the cash flow statement for Nvidia cash flow statement on Nvidia if I look at right here purchases of equity and debt securities they have literally bought $42 billion worth of other people's equity or 40 or $21 billion of other people's debt in literally six months ending July 20th.
他们的现金流是 700 亿美元的自由现金流。也就是说,Nvidia 在现金流上要富裕 17.5 倍。AMD 没有 Nvidia 那样的利润率,但它正试图达到那个水平。这就是关键所在。
Their cash flow is $70 billion of free cash flow. That is Nvidia's 17.5 times richer on cash flow. AMD doesn't have the margins that Nvidia does, but it's trying to get there. That's the whole point.
再说一次,我们刚才已经看过这些利润率了。净利率 62%,而 AMD 是 17%。这就是增长这一面。人们认为 Nvidia 的利润率基本上已经见顶,他们能触及的规模也已经见顶。但人们忘了,Nvidia 还有整个 CPU 业务,从零开始,正来与 AMD 竞争。
Again, we already went through these margins right here. 62% net compared to 17% at AMD. That's the growth side. People think Nvidia is basically topped on margins and topped on, you know, how much they can access.
But people forget that Nvidia has this whole CPU business that's starting from zero coming to compete with AMD.
记住,Nvidia 预计有 200 亿美元的 CPU 销售额,是在一种全栈销售中实现的,即使我们现在把数据中心销售额翻倍,我们看这里,假设我们翻倍并按年化计算。那么,拿一个季度的数据中心 6.7 来算。
6.7 乘以 4,是 268 亿美元。然后我们再把它翻倍。好,我们就大方一点。那将是 2027 年 530 亿美元的 CPU 销售额。
Remember, 20 billion of CPU sales from Nvidia are expected in sort of a full stack sale where even if we double data center sales right now, we go over here and let's say we double and annualize this.
So let's take data center in a quarter of 6.7. Let's go 6.7* 4 that's 26.8 billion. And then let's just double it. Okay, let's just be really generous. That would be 53 billion of CPU sales in 2027.
Nvidia 预计 2026 年卖出 200 亿美元。假设他们增长 50%。那将是 300 亿美元。AMD 实际上,或者说 AMD 确实有竞争正紧追着他们的 CPU 而来,那就是 Jensen。
他不想被 Lisa 打败,我明白,你知道,他们还是亲戚,这是最疯狂的部分,但这就像一场并驾齐驱的赛马。看这个真的很有意思。
Nvidia is expecting to sell 20 billion in 2026. Let's say they grow that by 50%. That would be 30 billion. AMD is actually got or AMD actually has competition coming right up their butt for those CPUs and it's Jensen.
He doesn't want to be out outbeat by Lisa and I get, you know, they're related, which is even the craziest part, but it's it's like a neck andneck horse race. It's really entertaining to see this.
机器人领域,你要 Cerebras,你要 Nvidia。那些就是你机器人领域的大玩家。
Robotics, you want Cerebrus and you want Nvidia. Those are your big robotics place.
Nvidia,我看这只股票会超过 600 美元。而且,是的,这很可能会让它成为第一家市值 10 万亿美元的公司。坦率地说,它配得上。
Nvidia, I'm looking at over 600 bucks for that stock. One and and yes, that will make it probably the first 10 trillion dollar company. And frankly, it deserves it.
所以,你可以看到很多像 Nvidia 这样的股票,我认为已经翻倍了。不过,公平地说,我们是在拿较新的和较旧的比较,所以还有工作要做,尽管 Vera 对 Nvidia 来说仍然是一款相对较新的芯片。
So, you can see a lot of stocks like an Nvidia I think has doubled. Now, in fairness, we're comparing a newer to an older, so there's still some work to do, although Vera is still a relatively new chip for Nvidia.
我们谈过 Helios,也就是机架系统。Nvidia 很可能在完整机架系统上胜出。我们谈到了 Nvidia 在 CPU 上给出的 200 亿美元指引,这是看涨的。
We talked about Helios, so the rack system. Nvidia probably wins on full rack system. We talked about the $20 billion guide on CPUs from Nvidia, which is bullish.
只要记住,Nvidia 的增长率很可能会显得更高,因为它是从零基数起步的。所以基本上是从无限增长起步。
Just remember the growth rates are probably going to look higher at Nvidia because they're coming off of a zero base. So you're coming off like infinite growth basically.
而现在 Jensen 出来说:“是的,我们原本预期整个业务整体 70% 的增长,最终很可能会翻倍。”
And now Jensen's coming out saying, "Yeah, the 70% growth we were expecting for the whole business as a whole is probably going to end up being a double."
对 Nvidia 来说还早,这话说出来很疯狂,因为它是一家市值 50 亿美元的公司,
early for Nvidia, which is crazy to say because it's a five billion dollar company,
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