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欢迎回到英伟达2026年第二季度的财报会议。
Welcome back to another Nvidia earnings for Q2 2026.
英伟达即将接管市场。女士们先生们,我很高兴来到这里。今天,我代表英伟达的数字孪生体黄仁勋(Jensen Wong)。
Nvidia's about to take over. I'm so excited to be here, ladies and gentlemen. Today, I'm representing Nvidia's digital twin, Jensen Wong.
这很可能是我们迄今为英伟达经历过的最重要的财报。
this is going to most likely be the most important earnings that we've ever had for uh Nvidia.
Timu Jensen,你对本季度英伟达有何看法?先谈谈宏观层面的想法,然后我们可以深入探讨具体数据。在宏观层面,我认为他们表现会非常好。我可以直接进入数据部分吗?因为我相信他们的营收增长率实际上将达到三位数。
我的预估虽然略偏保守,但仍高于华尔街的数据,为935亿美元。我实际上认为他们可能会比这个数字高出超过10亿美元。但这将是一个非常强劲的牛市情景。所以我的基准情形是935亿美元,这意味着100%的增长率。
在非GAAP每股收益方面,我已经知道数字了,毕竟是我创立了这家公司。我们将看到非GAAP每股收益为2.16美元,加上我在SpaceX的出色投资,我们还将看到额外100亿美元的收益,这可能导致非GAAP每股收益达到257美元,这是由于Colette为我带来的按市值计价收益。因此,她将在本季度确认部分SpaceX的收益。
Teimu Jensen, what are you thinking for this quarter for Nvidia? High level thoughts and then we can go a little further into the numbers. Uh, well, high level, I think that they're going to do uh very well. Um, can I jump into the numbers because I believe that they're going to essentially do triple digits in terms of their growth rate top line. Um, my estimate was a little bit conservative even though they're higher than Wall Street's numbers, but 93 and a half billion. I actually think that they could come in probably over a billion higher than that. Um, but that would be in a really good bull case. Uh, so my sort of base case is 93 and a half billion. That would be 100% growth rate. And then on a non-GAAP EPS base, and I already know the numbers because, you know, I created the company. So, uh, we're going to see $2.16 of non-GAAP EPS, plus because of my amazing investments in SpaceX, we're also going to see an additional $10 billion worth of gains, which could end up seeing, you know, $257 worth of gap EPS due to the market marktomarket gains that uh, you know, Colette did for me. So, so she's going to mark some of those SpaceX gains in this quarter.
我忘了SpaceX的收益。你认为华尔街会在意这个吗,还是说这已经反映在价格中了?他们知道EPS会因此增长。嗯,我是说,EPS会有增长。我相信是100亿美元的规模。
I forgot about the SpaceX gains. Do you think the street's going to care about that or it's like it's baked in? They know there's EPS growth from that. Uh well, I mean, there will be EPS growth. I believe $10 billion worth.
不,但如果他们因SpaceX持股而使EPS超出预期约10%,你认为华尔街会……
No, but if they beat EPS by like 10% and it's because of the SpaceX stake. Do you think the street's going
不,不,不。我认为非GAAP方面,华尔街预期是29美元。我预期是2.16美元。即使没有按市值计价的收益,我也认为他们会超预期。
No, no, no. I I think non-GAAP uh Wall Street's expecting $29. I expect $2.16. Even without the marktomarket gains, I think that they'll beat without it.
请确保英伟达在财报后上涨,否则我就取消订阅。我想我们都一直在等待这只股票最终有所行动。你知道,该股的隐含波动率为5%,这是两年来的最低水平。通常它是8%到10%。所以在冲刺阶段没有太多波动性意味着人们已经放弃了对大幅波动的预期,这可能意味着本季度就是我们获得大幅波动的时候。
Please make sure Nvidia goes up after earnings, otherwise I'm unsubscribing. I think all of us have been waiting for this stock to finally make a move. And you know, the implied volatility on the name is 5%. It's the lowest it's been in two years. Usually, it's 8 to 10%. So, the fact that there's not that much volatility going into the sprint means people have kind of given up on expecting a big move, which means maybe this is the quarter where we where we get the big move.
从业绩来看,我认为市场现在实际上预期的是100%的同比增长。几周前,甚至几个月前,预期还远低于此,但市场现在已经预期三位数的增长。也许他们在提高门槛,这样他们就不会落后太多,但我认为英伟达本季度能轻松实现双重超预期。
接下来就是关于下一季度的指引。Tenra或Jose,下一季度是接近90%的同比增长还是类似的情况?我认为他们也能做到这一点。
uh results wise, I think the market now is actually expecting 100% year-over-year growth. um a couple of weeks, maybe months from now. It was much lower than that, but the market is already expecting triple digits now. Maybe they're putting the bar higher, so they are not so far behind, but I think Nvidia delivers quite easily on on a double beat this quarter. Then it's all about the guidance for next quarter. Tenra or Jose, the next quarter is what closer to 90% year-over-year growth or something close to it. I think they can deliver on that as well.
更大的故事将在于所有的承诺和交易。他们是如何考虑的?也许会对我们看到的整体融资协议和公告提出一些问题,他们如何选择,结构如何等等。
the bigger story will be on all of the commitments, all of the deals. Uh how how are they thinking about it? Maybe some questions on the whole financing agreements that and the announcement that we've seen, how are they choosing it, how is that structured, etc., etc.
总而言之,我预计黄仁勋将再次进行一场电话会议,试图解释目前到底发生了什么。在我脑海中,没有任何一种情况会让英伟达表现出疲软。英伟达对使用AI、GPU等的公司拥有90%以上的可见度,这意味着他们知道这些公司在两年后会做什么或试图做什么,所以他们怎么可能落后呢?
这根本不会发生。这根本不会发生。所以我预计全面超预期。该股今年一直表现不佳。我想上次我们讨论时,股价处于完全相同或接近的水平。所以是时候让这只股票动起来了。
But all in all, I expect Jensen to have another call where he just tries to explain the what the heck's going on right now. There is no scenario in my mind where Nvidia shows weakness. Nvidia has visibility into 90 plus% of all the the companies that are using AI and GPUs and whatever in the world which means they know what companies will be doing two years down the line or trying to do two years down the line and and so how how can they go and be behind it just it it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. So, I expect a full beat. It the stock itself has been underperforming this year. I think the last time we covered this, the stock was at the exact same price or or close to it. So, it's time for this one to get to get a move on.
Jose,你长期持有英伟达。你对本季度有什么看法?
Jose, you have uh owned Nvidia for a long time. Your thoughts on on this quarter?
正如Neil提到的,我认为有两个话题将是今天财报电话会议上的重点讨论内容。这并不意味着我认为它们很重要,而是市场将会关注的内容。首先是所谓的“辣椒芯片”(jalapeno chip),对吧?
我们昨天在OpenAI那里看到了类似的情况。它变得非常流行。我觉得它在社交媒体上爆发了。我看到了很多关于这个话题的讨论。这继续强化了这样一种情绪:英伟达无法永远保持市场份额。看,AI正在使AI芯片开发变得更简单,我认为这是事实,但我认为护城河正在发生一些变化。
不再仅仅是芯片设计,而是供应链。谁有能力锁定台积电制造产能的60%或其他百分比?谁能占据HBM市场或其他制造领域的某个百分比?当然,你可以设计一款芯片,但你能去所有这些供应链参与者那里,让他们承诺给你一部分供应链份额,而这款芯片他们并不知道是否可行,与此同时你有Papa Papa Jensen和Granny Jensen在这里为你提供大量的资金用于这种分配吗?
Um, so like Neil was mentioning, I do think one of the these are two topics that I think are going to be big discussions, right, in today's starting call. It doesn't mean I think they're important, but I think it's what the market is going to be focusing on. First is kind of the uh jalapeno chip, right? We kind of saw that with OpenAI yesterday. Um, and it's it's become very popular. I think it's social exploded. I saw a lot of topics and discussions about this. It just continues to add that sentiment that Nvidia, you can't hold your market share forever. Look, AI chips, AI is making AI chip development easier, which I think is true, but I think the the moat is changing a little bit. It's no longer about chip design. It's about the supply chain. Who who has the ability to be able to lock in 60% whatever x percentage of TSMC's manufacturing? who can hold up x percentage of of the HBM market or the rest of the manufacturing space. Sure, you can design a chip, but can you go to all these kind of supply chain players and make them promise you that they're going to give you a piece of that supply chain for a chimp that they don't know is going to work while you have Papa Papa Jensen and Granny Jensen here kind of giving you plenty and plenty of money for for that for that allocation.
第二件我真正想听到的事情,就像Neil谈到的承诺一样。你看,我在听Neil说话,我给你你的时间,但上个季度我记得承诺金额接近1200亿到1300亿美元,而且我认为那还不包括云业务和投资。
如果我们看到这个数字上升到2000亿美元,作为投资者,我会想要了解这种可见度。你们已经给了我们2025年到2027年之间1万亿美元的可见度。但如果现在你们大幅增加供应链承诺,我认为你们有义务告诉投资者原因。
我已经知道你们有这个能力。只要给我一个数字。告诉我直到2028年的数字。告诉我到2028年是1.7万亿美元。我认为这才能唤醒股市,让它意识到:“看,英伟达确实拥有这些优势,这就是他们做出承诺的原因,因为你现在告诉我你们大幅增加了承诺,但仍然停留在到2027年的1万亿美元。”这说不通。
The second thing I really would want to hear about is just like Neil was talking about the um commitments, right? And see, I was listening Neil um I'm giving you your uh but it's last quarter I think we were closer to like 120 $130 billion in commitments and I don't even think that was including kind of uh cloud plays and it wasn't including investments either. If we see that number kind of go to 200 billion, as um as an investor, I would want to know that visibility. You've given us $1 trillion of visibility between 2025 and 2027. But if now you're increasing your supply chain commitments dramatically, I think it's only fair you tell investors why. I already know you have it. Just give me a number. Tell me a number till 2028. Tell me $1.7 trillion to 2028. I think that's what could wake up the stock and say, "Look, Nvidia definitely has this and this is why they're making the commitments because now you're telling me that you've increased your commitments dramatically and you're still sitting at that $1 trillion till 2027." It just doesn't make sense.
我认为这是一个关键点,Jose,因为当黄仁勋在GTC上宣布到2027日历年年底有1万亿美元的可见度时,你我都在场。股价飙升,但两分钟后市场反应是:等等,我们已经知道了,因为传闻数字大约是9500亿,所以只多了500亿。
你说得对,我不知道他们是否会在这里宣布,但他们必须说明Vera Rubin以及他们在超大规模客户和ROI方面看到的进展,必须将那1万亿美元推高到至少1.5万亿,才能让投资者对估值扩张感到更兴奋。
I think I think I think that's a big point, Jose, because when Jensen announced he has 1 trillion in visibility going into uh 2027 calendar year end at GTC, you and I were there together. the stock popped every and then like two minutes later the market was like wait a second we already knew because the whisper number was like 950 so it's only 50 billion more so you're right I don't know if they make that announcement here but they're going to have to say that Vera Rubin and everything they're seeing in terms of progress with the hypers scales and ROI is got to push that one trillion to like one and a half at least to get investors a bit more excited about the multiple expansion
所以我会说,承诺新闻以及任何可见度信息,这才是我真正关注的。我不知道为什么我不再关心下一个季度了,我真的不看它。我只是知道英伟达会大获成功,对吧?所以,就告诉我那些我现在看不到的年份吧。
so I I would say um that commitment news and hopefully any visibility that's what I'm really looking at I I I I don't know why I I stopped caring about the next quarter and like I really don't look at it. It's just I know Nvidia is going to crush it, right? So, it's like uh just tell me what's what are the years I don't I don't see coming right now.
不过,我认为另一个值得关注的点是,他们确实将数据中心收入细分为了超大规模云服务商(hyperscalers)、新云玩家(neocloud players)以及企业客户等类别。上个季度,这些类别的比例几乎是一比一。
本季度这一比例发生了怎样的变化?他们提到新云玩家将会大幅增长。我们也听到 SpaceX 表示他们将独家使用 Nvidia 的产品。我们会看到这种转变吗?这是否消除了对 ASIC 玩家的担忧?
其中一个担忧是 Google、Amazon 等公司都在设计自己的 AI 芯片,但现在 Nvidia 给出了一个明确的数据表明:“没错,他们在设计自己的芯片,但真正购买芯片的是这些目前并不打算自行制造芯片的玩家。”所以,我也想看看这个数据。”
Um but yeah, I mean the other thing that I think will be curious is they did break down their data center revenue segment to kind of the meta uh the hyperscalers and the um neocloud players or whatever they forget neoclouds. um enterprise and so on. Last quarter that was almost a one-toone basis. How has that shifted this quarter? Right? They mentioned that the NeoCloud players were going to grow dramatically. We heard from SpaceX that they're going to do exclusive Nvidia. Are we going to see that shift? And does that eliminate that fear of ASIC players, right? One of the fears is that your Googles, your Amazons, everybody's designing their own AI chips, but now Nvidia is giving you a clear number that says, "Sure, they're designing their own chips, but the ones that are really buying the chips are these guys right here. The ones that aren't really going out and building those chips right now." So, I want to just see that number as well.
我们很可能成为单季度自由现金流生成能力最强的公司,超过以往任何一家企业。我认为 Apple 在 2025 年 12 月产生了 515 亿美元的自由现金流。如果我们能保持此前观察到的高自由现金流利润率,Nvidia 很可能会超越这一数字。”
we are likely to be the most free cash flow generative company like in terms of a single quarter than any other business before. So, Apple I think did 51.5 billion dollars of free cash flow on December of 2025. um that is likely to be beat by Nvidia if we end up keeping up the high free cash flow margin that we've end up seeing.
我还想知道他们在股票回购方面做了什么,本季度实际购入了多少股票,因为在过去三个月里,股价并没有出现大幅上涨,或者说至少存在以极低价格买入的机会。正是在那个季度,我们看到 Nebius 和 CoreWeave 的股价跌至极低水平,许多股票都出现了回调,而 Nvidia 的股价我记得跌到了 170 美元左右。
他们拥有 390 亿美元加上额外的 800 亿美元的股票回购授权。因此,如果他们决定大量回购股票,这也可能有助于每股收益(EPS),特别是如果回购金额远低于华尔街的预期时。”
I also want to know what they're doing in terms of the buybacks, how much they've actually purchased this quarter because we've not seen uh a large appreciation over the, you know, 3month period or at least there's been opportunities to to buy in at really cheap prices. That is the same quarter where we ended up seeing extremely low prices in Nebus and Coreweave and we really saw a dip in a lot of stocks and uh Nvidia was down to I think like 170 or so. They have I think it was $39 billion plus an additional 80 billion on top of that of uh stock purch stock repurchase authorization. So if they decided to buy back a lot of stock, that might also help the EPS as well if that comes in much much lower than Wall Street expects.
68% 的人认为 Nvidia 将跑赢大盘,显然大家对 Nvidia 交出最佳业绩抱有极大期待,我认为他们再次做到这一点不成问题,但这取决于市场是否愿意为此买单。你们中有人觉得他们的毛利率会面临一些压力吗?还是我们应该预期毛利率维持在 75%?”
um 68% of you say Nvidia is going to outperform so obviously there's a lot of excitement for Nvidia having the best numbers which I think they will once again it's going to be a question of if the street is willing to reward that do any of you feel their gross margins will be under pressure a little bit or should we expect it to be at 75?
唯一的理由可能是 Vera Rubin 开始量产爬坡,就像我们之前看到的从 Hopper 到 Blackwell 过渡期间那样,受到了一些影响。实际上我不记得具体的指引趋势了。
你还记得他们给出的指引是多少吗?如果他们给出了那个数字,我想我们的预期基本是一致的。另外,我还想探究一下我们听说或观察到的价格上涨,究竟是一种定价权策略,还是内存成本通胀导致的举措?
我认为后者可能性更大。那么,这将如何影响未来的毛利率?”
The only reason would be you're starting that Vera Rubin um ramp and like we saw kind of like the the uh the hopper to Blackwell there was a bit of a hit. Um I actually don't remember what was the guidance tenant. Do you remember was the guidance that they gave us? Um I would just pretty much if they gave us that number I think we're we're pretty in line with there. The only thing I would also want to look into is with the price increase that we saw or heard about um was that a pricing power move or was that a memory infle in in in um inflation cost move? I I think it's more the latter than anything. Um but how does that shift the um how does this shift gross margins going forward?
他们指引的毛利率为 75%。运营支出我记得大约是 83 亿美元。所以,预计毛利率将与之前持平,他们没有发布任何初步数据或变动说明。因此我预期毛利率会很高。有些人谈到内存价格给芯片带来了巨大压力,并指出 Blackwell 和 Vera Rubin 近期 15% 的价格上调可能意味着本季度毛利率会低于预期。
但这并不是我们第一次看到内存价格上涨,而在过去大约 12 个月里,毛利率一直在改善,从 72% 攀升至 75% 以上。那时候的压力在哪里呢?所以我不确定该期待什么,因为这不像是一次性的季度冲击。内存对他们来说已经拖累了一段时间。”
They guided for 75% margins. Um, and operating expenses I think was like 8.3 billion. But um, so yeah, gross margins are expected to come in right where they were before and they didn't come out and give us any preliminary numbers or any changes. So I expect them to be high. Some people talked about memory uh prices putting a lot of pressure on the chips and that their recent 15% bump up in Blackwell and Vera Rubin um prices being an indicator that they might end up coming in shy this quarter on gross margin. But this is not the first quarter where we ended up seeing memory prices increase and margins have only improved over the last, you know, 12 months or so where we've kind of gone from that 72 upwards of 75% climbing up. Um, where were the pressures back then? So, I'm not sure what to expect because it's not like this was a one quarter hit. Memory has been a a little bit of a drag for a while for them.
Rubin 的价格上涨是一个指标,表明本季度毛利率可能会低于预期。但这并不是我们第一次看到内存价格上涨,而在过去大约 12 个月里,毛利率一直在改善,从 72% 攀升至 75% 以上。
那时候的压力在哪里呢?所以我不确定该期待什么,因为这不像是一次性的季度冲击。内存对他们来说已经拖累了一段时间。”
Rubin um prices being an indicator that they might end up coming in shy this quarter on gross margin. But this is not the first quarter where we ended up seeing memory prices increase and margins have only improved over the last, you know, 12 months or so where we've kind of gone from that 72 upwards of 75% climbing up. Um, where were the pressures back then? So, I'm not sure what to expect because it's not like this was a one quarter hit. Memory has been a a little bit of a drag for a while for them.
对于 Nvidia 来说,很多内存制造商一直在锁定供应。因此,即使有任何内存价格变动,也不会影响他们本季度或下季度的表现。因为他们早就知道制造这些服务器需要支付的费用,内存可能是在一个或两个季度前采购的。
所以这不会影响今天的利润率。我认为这也是为什么如果他们因内存原因提高价格,那是主动为之,因为他们听说卖给他们 G 系列内存的供应商告诉他们,明年或稍晚些时候才会看到内存价格的大幅上涨。
为了主动维持利润率,他们也会相应提高定价。但我不认为我们会看到意外——如果你每季度创造数千亿美元的收入,你早在几个季度前就知道你的内存成本是多少。这对您来说不会是意外,因此对利润率来说也不会是意外。”
I would say for Nvidia too, I mean a lot of these manufactur for the memory, they've been locking in supply. So, it's it's if there is any memory changes, it's not going to affect this quarter or next quarter for them. Like, they already knew what they were going to be paying for and to make these servers, the memory was procure maybe a quarter ago or two quarters ago. So, it's not like that's going to impact margins today. And I think that's why they if they are increasing the prices because of memory, they're proactively doing it because they've heard that, hey, look, whoever is selling me G uh memory, they're telling me that next year or a little bit further than that. That's when we're going to see a higher increase in memory prices for us. So, for us to proactively keep that margins, we're also going to increase uh pricing. But I don't think we're going to see um they should know the pri if if you're building this type hundred billion dollars in revenue per quarter. You know what you're paying for your memory many quarters ago. It's not going to be a surprise for you. So it's not going to be a surprise to margins.
有几个人说 Bur 披露他买入了 Nvidia 的看涨期权。这是真的。这是他做空 Nvidia 头寸的对冲工具。所以你看到了那条关于他买入期权的头条新闻。”
couple of people saying Bur disclosed that he bought Nvidia calls. That is true. They are a hedge to his Nvidia short. So uh that is why you're seeing that headline right there that he bought calls.
你认为当他看到像这样的资金流时,他会增加空头头寸吗?这些人是他的空头对手盘。”我只是觉得,他再次在寻找“大空头 2.0”,而 AI 如果是他职业生涯中第二大做空目标,那么 Nvidia 必然处于核心位置,对吧?
但是,如果他错了,而且因为 Nvidia 在过去几天进入……”
Do you think that he ends up adding to his shorts whenever he sees streams like this? These are the opposite purchasers of his shorts. I I I just think he he once again he's looking for big short 2.0 and AI is if AI is the second biggest short in his career, Nvidia's got to be at the center of it, right? So, but if he's wrong and because Nvidia has been taking a bit of a dump over the past few days going into
Jose,你认为 Jensen 是否需要再次安抚人们关于循环融资、AI 泡沫以及所有炒作的情绪?现在大家过于兴奋,所以需要平息这种怀疑情绪。另外,你认为他是否也需要就红蓝两州反对建设更多数据中心所引发的政治反弹来安抚投资者?”
Jose, do you think Jensen's going to have to calm people down again around circular financing, AI bubble, all of this hype, it's getting people too excited, so you know that skepticism has to be calmed down. And then do you think he also also calm down investors around the political backlash that we're seeing from red and blue states to uh create the progress for more data centers?
是的,两者都需要。首先是关于循环融资的问题。我认为他唯一能真正安抚投资者的方法是提供更长远或更高的可见性。比如,“看,我们确实在做这件事,是的,我们的义务本季度增加了 400 到 500 亿美元,但这是因为我们的收入可见性增加了 5000 亿甚至更多”。
所以我认为这是他安抚这方面的唯一办法。不幸的是,在政治层面,我认为除了强调 AI 需要在美国继续创新、关乎国家安全并将带来巨大的 GDP 增长之外,他无话可说。但我认为这还不够。
没有什么他能展示的东西足以消除政治恐惧。我认为这将是最大的利空论点之一。现在每个季度、每个板块或每隔几个季度都会出现新的看空逻辑。我认为这是一个 Jensen 不幸无法给出好答案来让投资者安心的看空论点。”
Um yes to both. first to the the first one of like the circular financing. Um I think the only way he can really calm investors is by giving that visibility further on or or the higher visibility. It's like look we're doing this yes our obligations have increased by an extra 40 50 billion this quarter but that's because our visibility in revenue has increased by 500 billion or or or more right so I think that's the only way he can really calm that side. Unfortunately, on the political side, I don't think there's anything he can say outside that just AI needs to continue to innovate in the United States and it's for national security and it can it's going to be a huge growth in GDP. But I I don't think it's it's enough. I there's nothing he can show that's enough that can eliminate the political fear. And I think that's going to be one of the biggest um I now every quarter or in every segments or sector or or every few quarters there's a new bearish thesis. I think this is the bearish thesis that unfortunately Jensen won't be able to give uh a good answer to to com investors.
Tanner,你认为 Jensen 应该如何应对这次财报电话会议?”是的,我的意思是,他肯定会谈到循环融资。我想有几件事我几乎可以确定——好吧,我不打算打包票,但我真的认为他会提及 SpaceX。
他对那些支持他并购买其产品的公司一直持非常积极的态度。所以,我认为本季度他会说很多关于 SpaceX 的好话,因为他之前发表了关于排他性的评论。我认为他们肯定会提到 CoreWeave 所说的“安培”(Amp)寿命超过 9 年的情况。
这些将是部分亮点。他会谈论循环融资、与华尔街的交易。他们会谈到这一点,即英伟达的芯片如此可靠,以至于可以成为一种可投资资产,其表现可以被作为基准,可能承担更多风险。我觉得对于英伟达来说,除了担忧之外没有任何其他声音。
我不认为你能跟任何真正的投资者说,以目前 100% 的增长率来看,这家公司的估值倍数是昂贵的。这根本不是事实。但如果你相信他们的业务会出大问题,那它可能是昂贵的。今天他们要做的只是躲避这类质疑。”
Tanner, how do you think Jensen should uh navigate this earnings call? Yeah, I mean he's definitely going to talk about circular financing. Um, I think that there's been a couple things that I can almost guarantee, well, I'm not going to guarantee, but like I really think he's going to touch on SpaceX. He's talked extremely positively about the companies that have backed him and have purchased his products. So, um, I think he's going to say a lot of good things about SpaceX this quarter because of that exclusivity comment that he made. I think they're definitely going to bring up what Coree said about the amp years lasting over 9 years. Um, these are going to be some of the highlights. He talks about circular financing. Um, the Wall Street deal. This is one that they're going to talk about in terms of creating uh or or talking about Nvidia's chips being so reliable that they can become uh an investable asset that their performance um you know could be benchmarked probably taking on more risk. Like I I think a lot of those comments there's nothing but concerns on Nvidia. I don't think you can talk to any real investor and say the um multiple for what you're paying on this company right now putting up 100% growth rates is expensive. It's just not true. But it could be expensive if you believe that things are going to go very wrong for them. And that's all they're going to be doing today is just dodging those types of bullets.
Raymond James 最近实际上将英伟达的目标价上调至 352 美元。这些预期值持续攀升。”
there was actually a recent upgrade from Raymond James to $352 from Nvidia. uh those estimates continue to climb higher.
你认为 Neotron 和 Poolside 的收购会在英伟达推进开放权重模型时产生影响吗?我认为他们推进开放权重模型的原因是,他们最大的客户——OpenAI、Anthropic、Google、Amazon——都在构建自己的芯片并进入英伟达的领域,在芯片领域展开竞争,这对他们来说是明智之举,因为他们不想继续支付“英伟达税”,但显然黄仁勋必须反击。
所以 Neil,你认为财报电话会议是否会重点强调开源的好处?”
do you think Neotron and Poolside acquisition will make a difference as Nvidia pushes into open weight models? I think the reason they're pushing into openweight models is because all of their biggest customers, Open Eye, Anthropic, Google, Amazon are building their own chips and pushing into Nvidia space, competing in the chip space, which is smart for them because they don't want to keep paying the NVIDIA tax, but obviously Jensen has to fight back. So Neil, do you think there will be a heavy emphasis on the call around the the benefits of open source?
百分之百会谈到开放权重模型、开源、Neotron 以及最近的收购。我不认为他们会花太多篇幅讨论这个。也许他会点名核心循环侧(core loop side),但关于代币价格下跌,他会说:看,代币价格下跌并不意味着这些公司产生的收入会更少,这只是意味着我们现在拥有每小时收费更高的 GPU,它们能更快地完成任务,因此你的 GPU 释放得更快,这意味着更多的客户可以使用同一块 GPU,从而产生更多的收入。
一切都取决于每百万代币的成本之类的东西,这是他经常使用的公式。他会再次表示,从总拥有成本来看,我们是最强的,没人能与我们抗衡。所以这又是老生常谈,分析师和市场这次是否听进去取决于他们,但从他的角度来看,我和 Jose 几天前聊过,关于封闭模型对抗开源、开放权重模型对英伟达的影响。
无论如何这都是双赢。所以他只是在定位自己,表明无论发生什么,我都会赢。看起来我们将看到向更多开放权重模型的转变,而不是相反的方向。这并不意味着 Anthropic 抱歉,还有 OpenAI 会倒闭,但这确实意味着英伟达确保自己会赢。”
um 100% is going to talk about open way models, um open source, Neotron, the recent Aquire. I don't think they'll talk that much about it. Maybe maybe he'll he'll name core loop side but yeah the drop in token prices he's going to say look drop in token prices it does not mean that these companies will generate less revenue just means that now we have GPUs that you can charge more per hour they'll just finish a job way quicker and so your GPU frees up quicker which means more customers can use that same GPU and you'll generate way more revenue it's it's all about how many the cost of what million tokens or something like that that uh the equation that he always uses um he will again say that we are the best when you look at total cost of ownership um nobody can can go against us and so it's going to be again the same story that that he've been saying time and time again whether the analysts and the market will listen this time is is up to them but from his standpoint I mean I've talked about this with Jose a couple of days ago with regards to closed models again going against the the open source, open weight models for Nvidia. It's it's going to be a win-win regardless. So, he's just again positioning itself himself as okay, you know what, I'm going to win regardless of what happens. And it seems like we are going to see a move towards way more open way model than uh than the other direction. That doesn't mean that Anthrop Anthropic sorry and open AAI are going to go out of business, but it does mean that Nvidia make sure that they are going to win.
我也想知道他将如何界定这种开放权重模式。这是针对 AI 公司的防御性举措,还是针对中国的防御性策略?因为目前的开放权重模型主要是在中国构建的。所以黄仁勋是一个非常……他谈论的是一个非常偏执的人。
所以我想知道他的偏执是否在说,如果中国 AI 参与者继续开发这些模型,最终他们不会转向华为或在中国制造芯片的其他人,开始让他们的芯片在中国基础设施上制造得更高效吗?所以黄仁勋的想法是我不想让这种情况发生。
让我们在美国创建一个强大的开放 AI 模型世界,这样我们就可以确保我们要制造的芯片将用于这种开放权重解决方案。所以我想知道这更多是一个区域性问题,而不是针对前沿玩家的防御,或者两者兼而有之。”
I I I also wonder how he's going to frame this open way. Is it more of a defensive move against the AI companies or is it more a defensive way, a defensive play against kind of China? Because right now the openweight models are being built uh are mainly in China. So Jensen is a very very he talks about a very paranoid person. So I wonder if his paranoia is saying if if AI Chinese players keep developing Chinese AI players keep developing these models eventually aren't they going to go to Huawei or or or or whoever builds chips in in China and start getting their chips manufact um like made more efficient on Chinese infrastructure. So Jensen is like I don't want that to happen. let's create a strong open AI model world here in the United States because then we can assure that the chips that we're going to be making are going to be used for this openweight solution. So I wonder if it's more of a uh regional issue opposed to a defensiveness against the frontier plays or maybe even a little bit of both.
聊天室里有多少人可以直接说出你们认为它会持平?我们中有多少人认为它会像那样波动 23%,不会那么显著?我认为有相当大的可能性在 209 到 212 之间,就在那里。市场并不高兴。
市场也不沮丧,并且继续做过去几个月一直在做的事情。”你觉得它会永远横盘交易吗?”
How many people in the chat you could just put what you think is is thinks that it's going to be flat. How many of us think it's it's going to be like a 23% move like it's not going to be that substantial? I think there's there's a decent chance 209 to 212 and it's just there. The market's not happy. The market's not upset and it continues to do what it's been doing for the past couple of months at this point. You think it's just going to trade sideways forever?
不,但我在想,就像我在想,如果业绩很棒但还不够好,但也还不足以导致下跌,因为你知道 Nebia 的核心,所有这些半导体股票都将取决于英伟达今天的表现。如果它确实盘整并横盘,我不会感到惊讶。
我不期望它发生,但如果发生了,我也不觉得奇怪。”
No, but I I wonder if like I wonder if the results are amazing but not enough but it's also not enough to to take it down because you know Nebia's core we have all these semis are going to be contingent on what Nvidia does today. And if it does consolidate and go sideways it wouldn't surprise me. I don't expect it to happen but I don't think it would be surprising if it does.
是的。但我认为这更多是基于该股票的历史走势让你产生了这种感觉,你知道,就像 CoreWeave 的财报一样,在那之前的每个季度它都暴跌,每个人都预期它会再次暴跌。然后它上涨了 19%。
所以,我不是说这是突破性的季度,但在某个时刻,我只是读了 Raymond James 的报告。他们谈到到 2027 年,他们的市盈率将低于标普 500。如果增长继续保持高位,这种情况还能持续多久?
他们将能够回购多少流通股?股息增长能给你带来什么?你知道,他们刚刚翻了两番(25x)。他们最终能再翻五倍吗?我是说,他们有资金这样做。所以在某个时刻,我认为估值必须触底。也许是一年后,但如果预计增长将保持高位。嗯,是的,我不知道。我没有把他们排除在外。”
Yeah. But I think that's more based on um like the history of the stock is getting to you, you know, like uh similarly to Coreweave's earnings, it had dumped every single quarter before that everyone was residing to it dumping again. Then it was up 19%. So, and I'm not saying that this is the breakout quarter, but at some point I I just read the report from Raymond James. They talked about by 2027 they're going to have a lower PE than um the S&P 500. How long can that go on for if the growth continues to stay up? How much of their outstanding shares will they be able to buy back? What does that dividend growth get you? You know, they just 25x it. Are they going to end up uh able to 5x it again? I mean, they've got the money to do so. So I I like at some point I think that the valuation has to bottom out. Maybe it's a year from now, but if the growth is expected to stay high. Um yeah, I don't know. I'm I'm not counting them out.
对我来说,这只股票今天上涨的唯一途径是我们获得一个强劲的可见性数字。不仅仅是强劲的指导。即使指导疯狂,我指的可见性是关于我们得到的那个 1 万亿的数字。我认为这是唯一能说“哦,你知道吗?
也许我们在 AI 建设方面并没有疯狂”的东西。”
To me, the only way this stock moves up today is if we get a strong visibility number. Not not just even a strong guy. Like even if guidance is crazy, I think of visibility to be on the number they given us that 1 trillion. I think that's really the only thing that can say, "Oh, you know what? Maybe we aren't crazy in AI build right now."
Neil,你觉得它会持平或其他什么情况吗?”如果它确实按预期下跌,是多少来着,5% 左右,我刚用我的水晶球查了一下,我们将非常接近 200 日移动平均线。所以,我不知道这是否已经被市场预先计划好了,但随它去吧。”
Neil, you think it can go flat or something? If it if it does drop by the expected what is it, 5% or so, we are I just checked with my crystal ball, we are going to go quite close to the 200 day moving average. So, I don't know if if that's already pre-planned by by the market, but whatever.
所以,我不知道。我今天像往常一样多买了一股。所以希望它能涨上去。所以我对那额外的一股是盈利的。”今天是英伟达第二季度财报发布的大日子。”
So, I don't know. I bought an extra share today as always. So, hopefully it goes up. So, I'm up on that extra share. It's a big one today with Nvidia Q2 earnings.
所以,在我们进入英伟达之前,我们确实有一堆其他公司要看。”
So, we do have a bunch of these other companies that we will take a look at before we get to Nvidia.
再说一次,英伟达大约 20 分钟后开始。但 Octa 和 Salesforce 正在上涨。”
Again, Nvidia's in about 20 minutes. But Octa and Salesforce going green.
我还认为,如果软件股得到一些关注是件好事,因为归根结底,你知道,英伟达试图确保他们出售的用于训练这些模型的 GPU 正在帮助软件公司。讽刺的是,软件公司为那些前沿实验室创造了很多需求。
所以,如果 AI 是在帮助软件而不是摧毁软件,那将对英伟达有利。”
I also think it's good if the software names get some love because at the end of the day you know Nvidia a is you know trying to make sure that the the GPUs that they sell to train these models are helping the software companies. Ironically the software companies create a lot of demand for those um the Frontier Labs. So, it would help Nvidia if AI is helping software, not destroying software.
如果英伟达真的下跌,鉴于软件公司正因人工智能而增长,我会对原因持怀疑态度。英伟达正在提供使人工智能成为现实的 GPU。所以,我不知道。我认为这些软件公司为我们提供了关于英伟达应有表现的相当好的参考。
If Nvidia were to actually fall, I would be a bit skeptical on why given the software companies are growing because of AI. Nvidia is supplying the GPUs to make AI a thing. So, I don't know. I think these software companies are giving us a pretty good read into what Nvidia should do.
盘后交易中英伟达目前为 21038。这里有人觉得他们有可能在财报上不及预期吗?如果你认为他们不会不及预期,Tanner,你觉得 Jensen 会多走一步,实现三位数的同比增长吗?要知道市场共识指引的“耳语数字”是 97%。
Nvidia right there 21038 now uh after hours. Does anyone here think they could actually miss on earnings by any chance? And if you don't think they can miss, Tanner, do you think you know Streets Guiding for the Whisper number is 97%. Do you think Jensen just goes that extra mile and gets them the triple digit growth year-over-year?
是的,我是说他们会看到 100%。嗯,我是说,我不能这么说。我们不知道会是 100%。但我相信如果他们接近的话,他们会把它推到 100%。我是说,这真的是一个很好的头条数字。这可能让华尔街或算法交易兴奋起来。
但说实话,它实际上可能远高于此。它甚至可能更接近大约 106%,即大约 940 亿至 950 亿美元,许多分析师也报告了这一点。
Yeah, I mean they're they're they're going to see 100%. Well, I mean, I can't say that. We we don't know 100%. Um, but I believe that they would push that over to 100% if they were close. I mean, it's just a really good headline number. Um, that could get Wall Street or ALGO excited. But for real, I it honestly could be way above that. It might even be closer to about 106%. Um, seeing roughly about 94 95 billion, which many analysts have also reported on.
只要这种情况持续下去,我认为英伟达也应该能够显示出强劲的增长。”
As long as this continues, then I think Nvidia should be able to show some strong growth as well.
好吧,英伟达的数据应该已经发布了。即时反应中我们下跌了 1%。20760。我还没有具体数据。让我们看看是否会反弹。
Okay, Nvidia numbers should be out. We are down 1% on the immediate reaction. 20760. I don't have the numbers yet. Let's see if that reverses at all.
英伟达 211。营收 962 亿美元。超过了我预期的数字。绝对超过了。调整后毛利率 75%。净利润 590 亿美元。我不知道为什么它在下跌。肯定有某种原因。指引被摧毁(大幅超预期)。
营收上升。净利润大幅超预期。华尔街哪里滞后了?为什么现在不是 220?营收 962 亿美元。英伟达同比增长 106%。
Nvidia 211. 96.2 billion in revenue. Cleared my number. Absolutely cleared it. Adjusted gross margin 75%. Net income 59 billion. I don't know why it's down. There must be some reason. Guidance destroyed. Revenues up. Net income big, big beat. What is the street not lagging? How is this not 220 right now? 96.2 billion in revenue. Nvidia grew 106% year-over-year.
每股收益增长了 111%。每股收益为 2.2 美元,而之前是 2.09 美元。962 亿美元。相比 920 亿美元超出了 40 亿美元。股票下跌 2%。当然,为什么不会下跌呢?
EPS is up 111%. 22 versus 209 for EPS. 96.2 billion. That's a $4 billion beat versus 92. Stocks down 2%. Of course, why wouldn't it be down?
这里的增长将会非常棒。即使指引也高得多。比如那个 guy rep 的指引代表了多少同比增长?让我快速算一下。数据中心收入为 890 亿美元,而之前是 850 亿美元。我正在努力找到现在的指引和新闻稿。呃,股票价格为 205。
The growth here is going to be fantastic. Even the guides way higher. Like what what does that guy rep guide represent year-over-year growth on? Let me do the math on that real quick. Data center revenue was 89 billion versus 85 billion. I'm trying to find the guide right now and get the press release. Uh stocks at 205.
所以,营收同比增长 106%。调整后每股收益同比增长 120%。数据中心同比增长 117%。调整后毛利率实际上同比上升了 250 个基点,达到 75%。第三季度营收指引。华尔街认为他们会做到 1040 亿美元。
他们指引为 1080 亿美元,你知道这意味着他们可能会做到 1100 亿到 1120 亿美元,这意味着我相信我们将连续两个季度获得大约三位数的增长。
So, revenue up 106% year-over-year. Adjusted EPS up 120% year-over-year. Data center up 117% year-over-year. Adjusted gross margins actually are up 250 basis points year-over-year at 75%. Q3 revenue guide. The street thought they would do 104 billion. They are guiding for 108 billion which you know that means they're probably going to do 110 to 112 billion which means we're going to get two quarters in a row I believe of around that triple digit growth.
调整后毛利率下季度下降,从 75% 降至 74%。调整后运营支出为 90 亿美元。嗯,本季度的营业利润为 640 亿美元。同比增长 124%。我相信他们在第二季度连同股息一起回购了 260 亿美元。他们的回购计划还剩 990 亿美元。
Adjusted gross margin that's down next quarter 74 versus 75. Adjusted opex at 9 billion. Um operating income for this quarter was 64 billion. That's up 124% year-over-year. They I believe bought back with the dividends 26 billion in Q2. They have 99 billion left on their buyback plan.
Jensen 表示人工智能已达到拐点。它正在做有用的工作。它的 token 具有生产力和盈利能力。现在算力就是收入。人工智能基础设施建设正全速推进。Blackwell Rubin 现已全面投产,正是为了推动这一时刻而建。
Jensen says AI has reached its inflection point. It's doing useful work. Its tokens are productive and profitable. Now compute is revenue. The AI infrastructure buildout is at full steam. Bar Rubin now in full production was built to power exactly this moment.
他们还首次(或者是第二次,因为他们上个季度开始这样做)将收入细分为超大规模云服务商和其他所有客户。所以在他们获得的 960 亿美元收入中,480 亿美元来自超大规模云服务商,如 Amazon、Meta、Google 等。
华尔街原本认为是 430 亿。第二个版本称为边缘计算,这基本上是你的新云服务商,72 亿美元,而华尔街原本认为是 67 亿。所以他们在超大规模云服务商和边缘计算上都超出了预期。
显然,他们的大部分收入仍然集中在超大规模云服务商身上。
They've also broken down the revenue for the first time or for the second time because they started this last quarter between hyperscalers and everybody else. So out of that uh revenue that they got 96 billion 48 billion of it was hyperscalers Amazon Meta Google etc. The street thought it would be 43 uh the second version is called edge computing this is basically your neoclouds 7.2 billion versus 6.7 that the street thought it would do. So they beat on hyperscaler and edge computing. Obviously the majority of their revenue is still concentrated within the hyperscalers.
所以下个季度大约是 90% 的增长。完全正确。而且如果最终公布的数据出来,很可能更接近 95%,或者甚至更高一点。
So it's 90% growth for next quarter approximately. Exactly. And and it's likely to be closer to 95 if they end up putting up or maybe even a little bit higher.
这在股票没有真正上涨方面是相当令人难以置信的。你可以看到股价下跌了大约 2%。可能是因为两个原因。第一,第三季度营收指引为 1080 亿美元,高于华尔街的预期,但低于买方约 1090 亿美元的预期数字。
这个营收指引再次不包括任何来自中国的内容,尽管有关于数据中心收入的反复头条新闻。在刚刚过去的第二季度,数据中心收入为 890 亿美元,略高于华尔街预期的 860 亿美元。然后一个日益增长的担忧是本季度的毛利率。
毛利率为 75%,完全符合华尔街的预期,但第三季度的毛利率指引偏低,为 74%。嗯,再次,我们知道他们承诺过中期 70% 的水平,并且由于内存成本会有一些递减。所以我们现在开始看到这一点。如果实际上是因 1% 的毛利率未达标而被抛售。
This is uh quite incredible in terms of the stock not really getting the move. you can see shares are dropping uh roughly 2%. Could be because of two reasons. First, the Q3 revenue guidance coming in at 108 billion, which is higher than what the street anticipated, but lower than what the buy side numbers were around $ 109 billion. This revenue guide again does not include anything from China despite all the back and forth headlines for data center revenue. In the quarter that just passed in Q2, data center revenue came in at $89 billion, slightly higher than the 86 the street anticipated. And then a growing concern was gross margins for the quarter. Gross margins came in at 75% exactly in line with what the street wanted, but it's the Q3 gross margin guide that is light at 74%. Uh again, we know that they had promised mid70s and that there was going to be some tapering off because of memory costs. And so now we're starting to see that right now. if it's actually getting sold off on a 1% gross margin miss.
我不认为这是抛售的原因。嗯,他们的承诺数字出来了。嗯,承诺金额从上季度的 1190 亿美元增加到本季度的 2790 亿美元。
I don't think that's the reason for the selloff. Um their commitment numbers are out. Um commitments were increased from 119 billion last quarter to 279 billion this quarter.
是的。Nvidia正在向其供应链合作伙伴、新云服务商等各方做出承诺,以分配各类资源,无论是土地电力(即其正在进行的土地电力供应)、内存供应还是来自TSMC的供应。上个季度这一数字是1200亿美元,本季度则达到2790亿美元。
作为看空者,我想任何人都可以说这数字变得疯狂了,对吧?2790亿美元。也许当你处于1000亿美元水平时,你的自由现金流和所有其他方面都能很好地覆盖这些支出,但现在你超出了通常资产负债表所能承载的范围。
我认为这是极度利好的,因为他们这样做意味着他们拥有极高的可见度。这也是为什么我回到那个观点:如果你给我这种类型的增长,如果你告诉我你在本季度将承诺增加了1500亿美元,作为投资者,你必须向我展示证据。
我认为投资者有权利要求他们说明是什么可见度促使他们做出这类承诺。但2800亿美元,我的意思是,仅就目前的承诺而言,这相当于某些半导体公司的规模。
Yes. Nvidia making commitments to like its supply chain players to its neocloud players to whatever to allocate whatever type of resource right either being land power the land power that it's doing uh the supply from memory the supply from TSMC so last quarter that was 120 billion this quarter is 279 billion a bear I think anybody can say hey that's getting crazy numbers right 279 billion like maybe when you were at 100 billion your free cash flow and all this would be able to cover you just fine, but now you're going beyond that in your in what you typically have in your balance sheet. I think it's extremely bullish because if they're doing this, it means that they have so much visibility. And this is why I go back to where if you're giving me this type of growth, if you're telling me in the in the quarter you grew your your commitments by $150 billion, you have to show me proof as an investor. I think it's it's right to to for investors to ask to tell me what visibility that you see that is making you do these types of commitments. But 280 billion I mean you're talking about the sizes of certain semiconductor companies in just their commitments right now.
是的。但这些承诺涵盖2027、2028、2029、2030、2031、2032年及以后。其中1200亿美元当然是针对2027年剩余时间的。然后2028年是1000亿,之后数字会下降。
这很合理,对吧?因为他们已经与内存厂商和一些供应链厂商发布了重大公告。所以我对这个数字大幅上升并不感到惊讶。这只是他们在锁定未来几年的供应。这是一个巨大的跳跃,但我并没有那么惊讶。主要与内存采购有关。
Yeah. But the commitments are for 27 28 29 2030 2031 2032 and thereafter like the the 120 is of course for the remainder of 27. Then we have 100 for 28 and then the number does come down from there. It makes sense, right? Because they they've made some huge announcement with with memory players, with some supply chain players. So I'm not that surprised that the number is up quite a lot. It's just them securing the upcoming years. Um it's a big jump, but I'm I'm not that surprised. like pri say primarily related to the procurement of memory.
情况就是这样,我同意Neil的观点。在我看来,这并不是利空。和Neil一样,我很确定Tanner,大家也都这么认为。你需要确保不会把供应让给其他人。如果现在一切都是瓶颈,你不想失去那部分供应。
你需要向那些合作伙伴做出这些承诺。但随后华尔街想知道,嘿,如果你在做这些,我很高兴这是他们第一次在新闻稿中详细拆解这些承诺。我认为通常他们只在10-Q报告中分享,而且甚至没有这么详细。
嗯,但我们现在看到了Neil刚才提到的2026年和2027年的情况。
It's that where it's like and I agree with Neil. It's not bearish in my opinion. Similar to Neil, I'm pretty sure Tanner, everybody. It's like this is what you need to make sure you don't lose that supply to somebody else. If everything is a is a bottleneck right now, you don't want to lose that supply. you need to make these promises to those players. But then the street wants to know, hey, if you're doing this, and I'm happy that this is the first time they actually broke down that commitment in this press release. I think usually they share it only in the 10Q report and not even to this extent. Um, but we we now see kind of 2026, 2027 as Neil was just mentioning.
我的意思是,如果他们承诺投入这么多资金,即使是分摊到10年,多头逻辑是他们拥有极高的需求可见度。空头逻辑则是他们将花费更多资金,利润率会略微下降。作为一个合理的空头论点,这够格吗?
I mean, if they're committing this much money, even if it's over 10 years, the bull case is that they have so much vis visibility into demand. The bare case is they're going to be spending more money. Their margins are going to go down a little bit. Like, is that a reasonable enough bear case?
是的。我的意思是,我觉得我们在俄亥俄州数据中心与Wall Street的交易中就已经知道他们会增加整体承诺。对我来说,这是常规操作。他们还创纪录地返还了资金。因此,自由现金流最终没有超过Apple的510亿美元,因为他们向股东创纪录地返还了260亿美元。
这相当惊人。其中大部分用于股票回购,显然也有一部分用于股息。
Yeah. I mean, I feel like we knew this with the Wall Street deal with the Ohio data centers that they were increasing their overall commitments. Um, I mean, for me, it's business as usual. They also returned a record. So, so Free Cash Flow didn't end up beating um Apple's 51 billion because they returned a record $26 billion to shareholders. Uh which pretty wild. A lot of that in share repurchases, some of that obviously in dividends.
每股收益(EPS)远高于我的预期。毛利率完全符合我们的预期。也许下个季度不一定如此,但每当我们进入新的架构时,利润率总是存在潜在的拐点,正如那位女士在CNBC上所说的那样。所有这些都没有包含中国收入。
此外,我们也看到中国正在放宽立场,允许销售数以万计的GPU。数量不多,不是大规模的,但事实是这些完全没有被计入,而且可能有数亿美元甚至数十亿美元的GPU价值将出售给中国,这一点非常重要。
the EPS came in so much higher than I would have expected. The gross margin came in exactly where we thought it was going to be. Maybe not for for next quarter, but there's always um potential inflections in margins whenever we have uh whenever we're going into new architectures like that lady said uh on CNBC as well that none of this is inclusive of China revenue at all. And we also are seeing China loosening their stance and are allowing tens of thousands of GPUs to be sold. Not a lot. These are not big, but the fact that they're not being included at all and there's likely to be hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars worth of GPUs uh sold to China is really important.
嗯,我得听完整个电话会议。我不会说这是利好还是利空,但这超出了我目前的预期,而股价因这一消息下跌,尽管基于我们至少目前已知将成为其战略一部分的承诺来看,情况本该如此。
Um I'll have to listen to the whole call. Like I'm not going to say whether that's bullish or bearish, but this is beyond my expectations so far and the stock is down on this news based on commitments that we already knew was going to be a part of their game at least for the time being.
是的,我认为Tener,唯一的问题更像是承诺的规模,我想大多数多头都理解这一点,对吧,Tener?我想我们明白,我们知道要维持这种增长率,这是必要的。嗯,但我也认为市场提出质疑并不是坏事,因为我更仔细地查看了新闻稿中的数字。
从现在到2032年及以后,供应承诺为2900亿美元,云服务协议为2900亿美元,实际上总共有3660亿美元。仅供应承诺就有3660亿美元,但他们还有其他类型的承诺,他们有AI云兜底协议,这与之前的AI云服务协议不同,形式上是AI云协议,还有数据中心租赁,这在3660亿美元的基础上又增加了560亿美元。
然后他们对土地、电力和外壳等有担保,这部分已经有大约1080亿美元。所以,把这些所有承诺加起来,如果你往下滚动一点,这里有3660亿,再往下滚一页,这里还有其他承诺的560亿,然后你刚看过上面的那个,这里有1080亿。
嗯,下面还有一个,是的,1080亿。所以你谈论的是现在的承诺接近5000亿美元。所以我同意,Nvidia需要做这些。我真的这么认为。但我认为市场有权质疑:你有足够的资金来做这些吗?
这个AI周期能持续两年让你做到这一点吗?嗯,再说一次,我认为可以。
Yeah, I think Tener the only thing is more like the size of the commitments and I think most bulls understand it, right, Tener? I think we we we understand that we know this is needed to continue to see this growth rate. Uh but I I also don't think it's it's impo it's it's bad for market to be questioning because I'm looking at the numbers some more in that press release and it was it was for from here to 20329 billion on supply commitment 29 on cloud service agreement a a total of actually 366 billion um from now till 20 uh till 2032 and thereafter just on supply commitments but then they also have other types of commitments they have the AI AI cloud back stops which is different from the AI the cloud service agreements that they had in the previous one but in forms of AI cloud agreements um and data center leases that's an extra 56 billion to that 366 billion that they have and then then they have guarantees on those kind of land power and shells and on that already they have about 108 billion. So you're talking about in all these commitments and if you scroll down a bit uh on it there's like the 366 here then if you scroll down a little bit they have the the next page they have 56 billion here on other commitments and then be uh you just passed it the one on the top then they have 108 billion here um one under there yeah 108 so you're you're talking about commitments now being close to $500 billion right so it's I I agree that and Diddian needs to do this. I I I truly do. But it's I think the market is right to question, do you have the funds to be able to do this? Is this AI cycle going to last two years for you to be able um to to make it? Um again, I think so.
但别无选择,Nvidia不可能在承诺超过3000亿美元的情况下不这么做。正如你所说,Jose,你说我认为这是今天所有人中你说的最重要的一点。既然他们已经做出了承诺,那么对该收入数字的可见度必须超过一万亿美元。
but it has to there's no way Nvidia can say we're committing upwards of $300 billion if they don't. To your point, Jose, you said I think this is the most important thing you you said in the show out of all of us today. The the visibility on that revenue number has to exceed a trillion at this point if they're already commit.
这有点好笑。超大规模云服务商今年最初遭到抛售,是因为资本支出从他们转向了资本支出受益者,如Micron、Dram等。现在,Nvidia可能正遭到抛售,因为他们对这些同样的公司做出了大量承诺,而这些公司正是从超大规模云服务商那里获得所有资本支出的对象。
所以我想你会相信,Jose,他们必须给你提供那个收入数字的可见度,否则对于未来几年一万亿美元的承诺来说,这实在太多了,华尔街不会满意。
It's kind of funny. The hyperscalers sold off this year initially because the capex was going from them to the capex beneficiaries micron debas etc. Now it's like Nvidia is getting sold off potentially right now because they have all these commitments to those same companies but they were the ones that were getting all the the capex from the hyperscalers. So I would imagine you believe Jose they have to give you that visibility of revenue number otherwise this is just too much of a commitment for a trillion dollars over the next couple years that the street's not going to be happy about.
是的。我的意思是,我同意他们需要给我那个数据。如果我们看到……我实际上正在争论是否应该现在就买入一些股票,因为如果他们看到这种类型的情况,如果他们做出这种类型的承诺,即使他们没有告诉我具体数字,我已经知道……他们的可见度中肯定有一个疯狂的数字,就像……
Yeah. I mean I I agree they need to give me that if we see I I'm actually debating right now if I should buy some stocks right now because if they're seeing this type of if they're making these types of commitments even if they don't tell me the number I already I it's it's going to be some crazy number that they have in visibility like it's
不。不。是Nvidia。这让我对这家公司非常看好,因为如果华尔街因为你为自身拥有的那种可见度做准备而惩罚你。我……我是说,我喜欢这样。我在试图想明白为什么市场讨厌它,但我现在喜欢它。
No. No. Nvidia. Like it's making me so bullish in this company that the type of com like if the street is punishing you because you're preparing yourself for the type of of visibility that you have. I I think it's I mean I like it. I I'm trying to think why the market hates it, but I I like it right now.
他们在这里确实提到,在担保项下,部署在Port Spy的每一代Nvidia基础设施可能代表约150万个Nvidia GPU或约1500亿至2000亿美元的Nvidia收入,并且这些站点在未来20年内可以支持多个基础设施升级周期。所以他们在这里给了我们一些明确的数字。
They did say here when under the guarantees that the the commitments like the each generation of Nvidia infrastructure deployed at port spy could represent approximately 1.5 million Nvidia GPUs or approximately 150 to 200 billion in Nvidia revenue and the sites over the next 20 years can support multiple infrastructure upgrade cycle. So they they give us some clear numbers here.
这次财报电话会议变得更加有趣了。由于这些承诺的规模正逼近4000亿美元,显而易见的基本情形是,有人会问:为什么Nvidia愿意在其所有供应商身上花费数千亿美元?因为他们正在为自家芯片的生产建设提供融资,以便销售这些芯片。
this earnings call just got a lot more interesting. Because now that these commitments are in the pushing three400 billion range, it's, you know, this is the obvious bare case that someone's going to say, why is Nvidia willing to spend a couple hundred billion dollars on all their suppliers? Because they're financing the buildout of their own chips, right? like for for for them to sell these chips.
由于这些承诺的规模正逼近4000亿美元,显而易见的基本情形是,有人会问:为什么Nvidia愿意在其所有供应商身上花费数千亿美元?因为他们正在为自家芯片的生产建设提供融资,以便销售这些芯片。
生态系统中的每一个参与者——Micron、SK Hynix、Neoclouds以及封装公司——也必须具备支持能力,因为芯片中包含了光子学、内存等各种其他零部件。因此,如果其中一些公司资不抵债,且没有来自Nvidia的需求(对许多公司而言,Nvidia是其最大客户),那么Nvidia就无法售出任何芯片。
我认为这就是这里的基本情形。对此有一个简单的答案。正如Jose所说,这意味着他们对需求拥有很高的可见性。但Jensen今天必须在电话会议上真正解释清楚这一点。
Because now that these commitments are in the pushing three400 billion range, it's, you know, this is the obvious bare case that someone's going to say, why is Nvidia willing to spend a couple hundred billion dollars on all their suppliers? Because they're financing the buildout of their own chips, right? like for for for them to sell these chips. Everyone in the ecosystem, Micron, SKH Highix, the Neoclouds, packaging companies, they have to also be able to support because there's all these other, you know, nuts and bolts, photonics, memory, etc. that go into the chips. So, if if if some of these companies are insolvent and they don't have the demand from Nvidia, which for many of them is their biggest customer, Nvidia can't sell any chips. I I think that's going to be the bare case here. I think there's an easy answer to that. As Jose said, that means they have a lot of visibility into demand. But Jensen's gonna have to really explain that on the call today.
因此,如果其中一些公司资不抵债,且没有来自Nvidia的需求(对许多公司而言,Nvidia是其最大客户),那么Nvidia就无法售出任何芯片。我认为这就是这里的基本情形。对此有一个简单的答案。
正如Jose所说,这意味着他们对需求拥有很高的可见性。但Jensen今天必须在电话会议上真正解释清楚这一点。盘后交易中,Nvidia股价仍下跌2%。
So, if if if some of these companies are insolvent and they don't have the demand from Nvidia, which for many of them is their biggest customer, Nvidia can't sell any chips. I I think that's going to be the bare case here. I think there's an easy answer to that. As Jose said, that means they have a lot of visibility into demand. But Jensen's gonna have to really explain that on the call today. Nvidia right there still down 2% after hours.
归根结底,他只会说:“看,我们的新芯片,在相同的兆瓦数下,你们将能够产生更多的收入。并非每个人都需要吉瓦级的数据中心。如果你拥有100兆瓦,之前赚取X美元。使用我们的新芯片,你将能够以我不知道Blackwell和Vera Rubin之间具体提升幅度是多少的倍数来赚取X美元,但这个幅度相当大。”
他会一遍又一遍地重复这一点。老实说,如果我想要进一步增加敞口,我现在并不介意买入更多。
At the end of the day, he will just say, "Look, our new chips, if you have the same megawws, you will be able to generate more revenue. You won't need, not everyone needs a gigawatt scale data center. If you have 100 megawws, you previously made X dollars. With our new chips, you will be able to make X at the power of I don't know what's the the jump here between Blackwell and and Vera Rubin, but it's quite it's quite big and and he's just going to repeat it again and again and again. Um I I honestly if I were looking to to expose myself to even more, I I I wouldn't mind buying it more now.
老实说,如果我想要进一步增加敞口,我现在并不介意买入更多。软件名称并未变动。这是我们目前下跌的一个非常具体的Nvidia原因。
Um I I honestly if I were looking to to expose myself to even more, I I I wouldn't mind buying it more now. The software name is not budging. This is a this is a very specific Nvidia reason for why we're down right now.
有趣的是,所有的Neocloud股票也都上涨,这有些不合逻辑。如果Nvidia下跌,我原本以为Neocloud相关股票也会下跌,但它们并没有。半导体板块要么持平,要么略微上涨。
and what's interesting is all of the neo clouds are green as well so something doesn't make any it doesn't make sense like if Nvidia is down I would have assumed the memor the Neocloud names would be down as well, but they're not. The semis are either flat or greenish.
我认为这印证了Jose的观点是正确的,即AI需求确实存在。芯片的销售速度比以往任何时候都快。实际上,你可以看到超大规模云服务商与其他AI云服务商之间的细分情况。因此,流向Neocloud相关股票的增长多于流向超大规模云服务商的增长。
Well, well, I don't think No, I think that goes to point to Jose's point being right is that the AI demand is definitely there. Chips are, you know, selling faster than ever. Um, and actually you can see them break down hyperscaler versus their other AI clouds. So, so there's more growth headed towards the Neocloud names than the hyperscalers.
除此之外,Nvidia愿意承担大量风险。因此,单独来看,这并不是关于AI交易的陈述,而是关于Nvidia风险水平的陈述。但我认为,对于芯片购买者——那些面临巨额资本支出账单的公司来说,风险水平一直更高。嗯,不过他们只是刚刚开始承担这些账单,我想。
And then on top of that, Nvidia is willing to take on a lot of the risk. So, just individually, this is not a statement about the AI trade. This is an this is a statement about what's the risk level for Nvidia, but I think the risk level has always been higher from the purchasers of the chips, the ones with the, you know, mega capex bills. Um, but yeah, they're just starting their their bill, I guess.
公平地说,股价下跌了2%,实际上是1.2%。也就是说,引起不满或兴奋的关键不在于股价反应本身。更重要的是这个承诺数字,它现在创造了一个新的担忧类别。虽然我不认为这是一个实际的担忧,但它构成了一个障碍,公司必须能够充分阐明这一点,以便投资者理解。
毕竟,它已经是世界上市值最大的公司,占标普500指数的大部分权重。这只是他们需要分解说明的新事物。我可以想象,这再次意味着他们对需求拥有很高的可见性。CFO评论中已经暗示了这一点。
所以在电话会议上,他们必须继续暗示这一点。我的意思是,如果盘后股价上涨5%,解读可能是“哦,他们花这么多钱是因为他们将赚这么多钱”。但因为股价略有下跌,这可能被视为负面因素。
To to be fair, the stock is down 2%. I mean, it's 1.2%. Like, it's not it's not about the stock reaction that that's that that that's that compelling to be upset or excited about. It's more so about this commitment number that now creates a new category of concern which again I don't think it's an actual concern but it creates a hurdle that the company will have to be able to articulate well enough to explain um for investors to deal with. I mean it's already the biggest company in the world already majority of the S&P 500. This is just a new thing that they're going to have to break down. I would imagine once again it means they have a lot of visibility into demand. They've already hinted at that in the CFO commentary. So on the call they would have to continue hinting at I mean, if the stock was up 5% after hours, I think the interpretation would be like, "Oh, they're spending all this money because they're going to make all this money." But because the stock's down a little bit, it might be seen as a negative.
人们在问:“Jensen什么时候讲话?”我现在就在讲。话虽如此,电话会议在5点开始。Jensen不会立即发言,他会在问答环节加入。所以人们通常会在那之前发表很多评论。他不负责介绍初始数据或CFO评论。
他会在问答环节出现。所以你大概会在5:30左右听到他的实际言论。请留意那部分内容。
People are saying, "When is Jensen talking?" I'm talking right now. That being said, um the call is at 5. Jensen doesn't talk for a while. He joins during Q&A. So, people always put up a bunch of comments during that. He uh does not do the initial numbers or the CFO commentary. He'll come in for Q&A. So you'll see his actual words around 5:30. So stick around for that.
Nvidia首席财务官表示,我们与广泛的供应商网络合作,以确保满足未来几年需求所需的关键组件,最高敞口为35亿美元。是的,我认为整个电话会议都将围绕他们解释为何进行这笔5000亿美元的融资,为何有所有这些承诺展开。
我想Jensen会说:“你们在说什么?AI将一飞冲天,我们拥有世界上所有的资金。我们拥有最好的利润率。我们必须花这笔钱,而且我们刚刚回购了200亿美元的stock。你们真的不能生我们的气。
我们将继续推动AI基础设施的建设。”我认为他在这里会持非常乐观的态度,你可能会看到股价因这一叙事而反转。
Nvidia CFO says we partner with an extensive network of suppliers to secure critical components needed to meet demand for next several years maximum exposure under land power shell guaranteed 3.5 billion. Yeah, I think that the entire call is going to be about them saying the reason we're doing this $500 billion financing thing, the reason we have all these commitments is because I think Jensen's going to be like what are you guys talking about this AI this is going to the moon and we have all the money in the world. We have the best margins. We have to spend this money and we just bought back 20 billion of stock. Like you guys can't really be mad at us. Uh but we're going to keep proliferating the buildout of AI. I think he's going to have a very optimistic tone here and you might see the stock potentially flip on that narrative.
这是一次胜利。虽然经中国调整后,季度环比增长率没有达到那个神奇的类似增速,但我认为就指引而言,这是一次胜利。你知道,上个季度的上行空间是3%,他们指引的上行空间是4.4%。所以那个1090亿的神奇数字,我们确实错过了。
股价最初的反应与毛利率有关。这一点让我感到意外。我原本预期明年会是逐步下降,而不是在10月季度看到这种阶梯式下滑。但归根结底,我们是在吹毛求疵。我的意思是,这是我们在细微之处错过的指标。
这就是我们所做的。但我的意思是,这个故事的整体仍然非常完整。他们以过去一年类似的速率超越预期。尽管基数越来越高,他们仍以类似的速率上调预期。而且你仍然有一些大的驱动因素。让我们看看SpaceX为例。
他们希望明年通过数据中心实现8吉瓦时。我的意思是,仅凭这一点,仅SpaceX一家就可以从去年的3%客户占比提升到10%。这将使超大规模云服务商的增长率从市场预期的明年38%提升至60%的低端。
仍然有一些有意义的驱动因素。所以Mike,我认为是的,我们没有完美地勾选所有方框,但故事的核心仍然非常完整。
That's a win. It didn't hit that magic uh similar growth rates quarteron quarter adjusting for China, but it is I think that is a win as far as the guidance. You know, that was 3% upside last quarter. they guided 4.4% upside. So that magic number of 109, we did miss that. The stock initially, that initial trade-off was related to the gross margins. That one surprised me. Uh I was expecting more of a gradual decline of the next year, not seeing that step down in the October quarter. But at the end of the day, we're splitting hairs here. I mean, this is we have the the the metrics they miss fractionally. That's what we do. But I mean, the the aggregate of this this story is still very much intact. They're beating at a similar rate that they have over the past year. They're raising at a similar rate despite higher and higher numbers. And you have some of these big drivers still. Let's just look at SpaceX for example. They want to do eight gawatt hours next year with the data center. I mean, just that alone, just SpaceX alone can become a 3% customer last year to a 10%. That will take the hyperscaler growth rate from the streets looking for 38% next year to the low 60%. There's still some meaningful drivers. So Mike, I think that yes, we didn't check all the boxes perfectly, but the kind of the story is very much intact.
所以,Cody,我看待这里的设置是这样的。显然,买方投资者有些怀疑,或者有一段时间以来,他们没有动力急于高价买入Nvidia股票。在卖方方面,67位分析师中有63位给予买入评级。
共识目标价意味着从此处上涨50%。共识目标价隐含了Nvidia 7.5万亿美元的估值。因此,从预测基本面的人那里可以看到足够的乐观情绪。你认为,如果这只股票真的向上突破,客户需要理解什么?
So, so Cody, I look at, you know, the kind of the setup here. Obviously, investors, the buy side has a little bit of skepticism or they haven't felt motivated to really rush and and urgently pay up for Nvidia shares for a little while now. On the sell side, 63 out of 67 analysts have buy ratings. The consensus price target is for a 50% gain from here. The consensus price target implies a $7.5 trillion valuation for Nvidia. So there's enough optimism as people who are looking at projecting the fundamentals. What do you think clients need to understand if in fact this stock is going to get unlocked to the upside?
我认为,你只需要将品牌持续增长的势头纳入考量,股价最终会随之上涨。即便在千亿美元营收的基础上仍保持如此高的增长率,超大规模云服务商客户群仍在逐年翻倍,正如 Jean 所提到的,未来仍有大量新机遇涌现。因此,只要业绩数据亮眼,股价终将跟进。
Well, I think you've just got to factor in the continued growth of the name and I think the stock will eventually follow. uh when you've got this kind of of growth rate even on the hundred billion dollars of revenue uh continuing to double their hyperscaler in their customer base uh year-over-year and as Jean mentioned uh there continues to be a lot of new opportunities out there uh in the future and so I think if you put up the numbers the stock will eventually follow uh
新闻稿中有两项新的披露信息:第一,单一直接客户贡献了 16% 的营收,几乎占五分之一;上季度他们告诉我们,前三大直接客户占总营收的 21%,分别为 17% 和 16%。
we have two new disclosures from the press releases number one is one direct customer represented 16% almost a fifth of the revenue. Last quarter they told us their top three direct customers 21% of total revenue 17 and 16%.
不,我的意思是,Jean 刚才提到,假如 SpaceX 明年神奇地从 2 GW 扩张到 8 GW,它们就会成为占比约 10% 的客户。显然,拥有雄厚资本的客户规模可以大幅扩张,从而降低集中度风险,因为突然冒出一个像 SpaceX AI 这样的巨型新客户。
No, I mean it uh Jean just said that if let's say SpaceX magically go from 2 GW to 8 gawatt next year, they will become a a what 10% customer. So, so, so clearly customers with a lot of capital can become much much bigger and then you have less concentration because suddenly you have another gigantic customer that pops out of nowhere which is SpaceX AI.
Neil,他们上季度披露了中国区营收吗?你知道吗?是的,为零。哦,真的吗?接近零。顺便说一句,我不认为这是完全准确的。我刚读到一份报告称其低于 1%。我想中国区营收的情况有些不同,有时他们仍将可在中国销售给 Nvidia 的消费级产品计入在内。
我认为这里的大新闻是,有不到 1% 的数据中心 Hopper 芯片确实销往了中国。这是许久以来我们首次看到 Hopper 芯片进入中国市场。虽然量不大,但这确实是此次财报中的一个新变化。
Neil, did they disclose their China revenue last quarter? Do you know? Yeah, it was zero. Oh, really? Close. I don't think this is true, by the way. That that I just read a report saying it was less than 1%. Yeah, I think China I think China revenue is a bit different. Sometimes they still include consumer products which can still be sold on Nvidia uh on China. I think the big news here was that there was a 1% of data center less than 1% data center of hoppers that did go to China. So that's the first time in a while that we actually have seen hoppers go make it to China. It wasn't it wasn't anything crazy, but that was kind of the big uh one of the new things here.
是的,有一份报告指出,七月中旬开始,他们才获准向中国销售,仅两周时间。我认为第三季度将会截然不同。如果整个季度都能向中国销售,包括十天前刚报道的八月下旬中国方面出现的政策放宽或升级,那对 Nvidia 来说可能非常利好,毕竟他们目前并未指引任何来自中国的收入,即零收入。
Yeah, there was a report halfway through July, so it was only two weeks where they were able to sell into China, Q3, I think, will be a very uh different story. And if you get an entire quarter of of sales into China, including a step up or an easing from China halfway through in August that we just saw a report 10 days ago, um that could be really good for uh China or for Nvidia considering they're not guiding for any revenue, zero.
好的,所以有一个客户贡献了约 16% 的营收,这与上季度的集中度情况类似。Nvidia 在新闻稿中表示,上半年总营收的 44% 来自三家直接客户。此外,由于 H200 库存过剩,他们在上半年计提了 4 亿美元的减值准备。
Okay, so you have uh one customer doing about 16% of the revenue kind of similar to the concentration last quarter. Uh 44% of the first half total revenue was from three direct customers. Nvidia put in the press release. They also incurred a $400 million charge in the first half of the year from excess H200 inventory.
关于对华业务,Nvidia 因 H200 库存过剩在上半年计提了 4 亿美元的费用。是的,这很可能是原本计划销往中国但未能成行的库存,对吧?极有可能。好吧,看来这不是什么大问题。
上季度是不是也有一笔巨大的 H20 相关费用?是的,大约 50 亿或 54 亿美元,差不多是这个数。
Going to China in Nvidia incurred a 400 million charge in excess H200 inventory in the first half. Yeah, that was probably inventory that was supposed to go to China that didn't make it, right? Most likely. Okay. So, it doesn't seem like that's the biggest deal. Wasn't there also like a big H20 charge last last quarter? Yeah, like 5 billion or 5.4 billion, something like that.
是的,我想很多人对此感到不满,上季度出问题的不是应收账款,而是另一个会计指标出现了激增。我认为这次大家热议的是“承诺”(commitments),这应该是 Jensen 可能会谈到的内容。
Nvidia 表示未来将同时出货 Blackwell 和 Rubin 系统,并在 SEC 文件中提到目前正面临某些供应限制。Nvidia 称其在八月与大型资本提供方达成协议,这是一项价值 5000 亿美元的重大交易,旨在建立独立融资平台以调动第三方资本。
Yeah, I think a lot of people were upset about it wasn't accounts receivable last quarter, but it was uh a different accounting metric that kind of exploded. I think commitments is the big one that people are talking about this time, but that's something Jensen will probably talk about. Nvidia says it will be shipping both Blackwell and Reuben systems in the future and is currently experiencing certain supply constraints in their SEC filing. Nvidia said that in August it entered into with large capital providers. This is the big $500 billion deal to create independent financing platforms to mobilize third party capital
Gene Monster 说得很到位,下季度毛利率下降 1% 其实是在吹毛求疵。就像我们通常在审视每一个细微之处一样。这里最重要的两个细节是:这是一家同比增长 106% 的公司;其指引实际上与该增长水平非常相似,如果你考虑到他们实际可能达到的业绩的话。
另外就是他们增加的承诺订单。这就是两个核心故事:极快的增长速度,以及可能承担稍多风险或相信建设周期将持续一段时间。你完全可以将其视为看涨信号,因为他们似乎对未来多年维持千亿美元以上季度营收的客户可见性很有信心。
Gene Monster said it really well like we're splitting hairs on gross margin next quarter coming down 1%. Like most of this stuff we are looking at every minute detail. The two biggest details here is this is a company growing at 106% year-over-year. Guidance is is honestly very similar to that level of growth at if you know if you include what they're likely to actually come in at. And then you also have their increased commitments. Those are the two stories. Extremely fast growing and potentially taking on a little bit more risk or believing that this buildout is going to continue for a while. You could honestly look at that as a bullish sign thinking that they believe that they have visibility into multiple years of customers of holding up 100 plus billion dollar revenue quarters.
我觉得市场现在有点疯狂。不仅是因为下跌 2% 或者现在的 8% 跌幅本身没问题,而是这是在连续近八天收跌之后发生的。让我感到沮丧的是我们已经处于低位了。嗯……
Like I I think the market's being crazy right now. Not only like the 2% being down or you know right now8% being down is fine, but it's off of the back of almost like an 8 day streak of being red. That's the part that's like frustrating me is like we are already down. Um
我想正如聊天室中有人所说,如果股价不涨,没人会在意这些细节。确实,大家都在纠结细枝末节,但没人关心这个。大家都觉得股价应该上涨。但正如 Tanner 所说,你必须分析这些数据,试图更深入地理解为什么它没有上涨。
你知道,归根结底,正如你所说,过去一周它一直处于下行趋势,这种趋势可能会持续到 Jensen 提供更多清晰度为止。
I think as as this person says in the chat, nobody cares if the stock doesn't go up. I mean they're right like all these little things were going into the nitty-gritty. No one cares. Everyone's like the stock should go up. But you have to analyze this stuff as Tanner says to try to get a little bit more deeper into why it's not going up. And you know, at the end of the day, it's been in a downtrend for the past week as you said, and it might continue that downtrend until Jensen kind of gives more clarity here.
市场解读这份财报的方式很有趣,但集中度风险显然依然存在。无论是 Microsoft、Google、Amazon 还是 Meta,他们一直在支付——我是说,今年约 1800 多亿美元的营收中,有 44% 来自超大规模云服务商。
所以归根结底,集中度风险还在,但他们继续支出是有原因的,他们需要芯片。你可以看到 AWS、GCP 和 Azure 的增长率,所以我不确定这是否还是最大的利空因素。此外,为了支撑整个供应链而做出的承诺也是合理的。
It's quite interesting how the market's interpreting this earnings immediately, but the concentration risk is obviously still there. the the whether it's Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Meta, they keep paying I mean 44% of the what is it 200 billion no like 180 something billion they've done this year in revenue um was from the hyperscalers and so at the end of the day that concentration risk is there but they continue to spend for a reason they need the chips you're seeing the AWS GCP Azure growth rates so I don't know if that is the biggest bare case anymore and then you have the commitments to make the entire our supply chain makes sense.
他们一直在支付——我是说,今年约 1800 多亿美元的营收中,有 44% 来自超大规模云服务商。所以归根结底,集中度风险还在,但他们继续支出是有原因的,他们需要芯片。你可以看到 AWS、GCP 和 Azure 的增长率,所以我不确定这是否还是最大的利空因素。
此外,为了支撑整个供应链而做出的承诺也是合理的。
keep paying I mean 44% of the what is it 200 billion no like 180 something billion they've done this year in revenue um was from the hyperscalers and so at the end of the day that concentration risk is there but they continue to spend for a reason they need the chips you're seeing the AWS GCP Azure growth rates so I don't know if that is the biggest bare case anymore and then you have the commitments to make the entire our supply chain makes sense.
Jensen 大概还要再过 25 到 30 分钟才会发言。他们得先听完 CFO 的评论。嗯,如果你是电话会议上的分析师,或者是聊天室里的任何人,还有我身边的三位嘉宾,Jose,先从你开始吧。你会问 Jensen 什么问题?
Jensen's not going to be speaking probably for another 25 to 30 minutes. They're going to have to get through CFO commentary. Um, if you were an analyst on the call, anyone in the chat, and uh, my three fellow panelists here, let's start with you, Jose. What question would you ask Jensen?
给我可见性。就这些。我只关心这个,因为我认为这能解答很多其他问题。是的,除此之外,我甚至不知道该如何表述这个问题,但基于所有的承诺来看,这令人惊讶。我相信你们都看过相关报道,Vera Rubin Ultra 预计配备的 HBM 比 Vera Rubin 更少。
那么,这如何与他们的一些承诺相协调呢?嗯,我甚至不知道该怎么问这个问题,但他们似乎在缩减或降低未来产品的规格,同时又对内存做出了惊人的承诺。
Just give me visibility. That's it. That's all I care about because I think that ends a lot of the qu a lot of the other questions. yeah, and then on on on top of that, I don't even know how I would phrase this question, but based on all the commitments, it's surprising. I'm sure you guys have all seen the reports, the Vera Rubin Ultra is actually expected to have less HBM than the Vera Rubin. So, like, how does that tie in with some of their commitments? And um I I don't even know how I'd phrase that question, but like they are downsizing or or or lowering the specs on their future products, but also putting up unbelievable commitments to memory.
这是一种权力展示吗?因为如果所有客户/竞争对手都在努力追赶,他们需要内存。但如果 Nvidia 把所有内存都买光了,他们就没有足够的内存来快速行动。所以这就像是 Jensen 下的四维棋。
我所做的一切都是权力展示。好吧,这就是 Jensen 的风格。
Is it a power play? Because if all of the customers/ competitors are also trying to catch up, they need memory. But if Nvidia picks everything up, they don't have the memory to move fast enough. And so it's like 4D chess from Jensen. Everything I do is a power play. Okay. That's just what Jensen does.
我想问一个最显而易见的问题。这个开源项目到底是怎么回事?对吧?我的意思是,我会试着委婉一点提问,但你们真的在与 OpenAI 和 Anthropic 竞争吗?你们希望更多企业采用 Neotron 而不是前沿模型吗?
如果他们这样做,对那些公司来说是不是坏事?他们会采用吗,还是会出现一种滑动尺度,即某些部分使用前沿模型,某些部分使用开源模型?嗯,如果英伟达正在销售相当大一部分的开源代币,这是否是该业务的一条新收入线,并且某种程度上依附于数据中心业务?
我的意思是,开源问题加上 Jose 谈到的承诺事项,是一个相对重大的问题。
I would ask the most obvious question. What's going on with this open source thing? Right? Like I mean I would try to ask the question without being so direct, but I mean are you legit competing with OpenAI and Enthropic? Do you want more enterprises to adopt Neotron over the frontier models? And if they do that, is that bad for those companies? Will they adopt or is there going to be a sliding scale where some stuff is frontier, some stuff is open source? Um do is the open like look if if Nvidia, you know, is selling a decent chunk of open source tokens, is that another line of revenue for the business that is kind of uh latching on to the data center bit? I mean, I think the open source thing along with this commitment stuff that Jose talked about is a relatively big question.
我认为客户集中度风险这个问题,过去几年我们每次至少都会听到一次。我不认为这将是最大的问题 anymore,因为 Amazon、Google、Microsoft 这些客户正展现出巨大的云增长。
因此,他们必须继续购买 GPU。但这个问题可能会在客户集中度的背景下出现,不仅仅是客户集中度,还包括来自那些现在通过 Trainium 和 TPU 看到大量增长的集中客户的竞争。
嗯,我再次强调,我不认为这是这里最重要的问题,但我认为我们可能会听到一些相关的评论。不过股价几乎没跌,所以……
I think the customer concentration risk, we've heard that question at least once every time over the past couple years. Um, I don't think that's going to be the biggest question anymore because these customers, Amazon, Google, Microsoft are showing massive cloud growth. So, they have to keep buying the GPUs. But that question might come out in the context of not customer concentration, but customer concentration and competition from those concentrated customers that are now seeing a lot of growth with tranium and with uh TPUs. Um, which again I don't think is the the most important question here, but I think we're going to probably hear some commentary around that. The stock is barely down though, so
就是这里的 Nvidia。那是唯一下跌的股票。我的意思是,诚然,如果 Jensen 说了正确的话且华尔街喜欢,即使流动性不是特别强,盘后看到这个反弹也是可能的……
It's just Nvidia right here. That's the one going down. I mean, granted, if Jensen says the right stuff and the street likes it, seeing this thing pop after hours, even though liquidity is not that strong,
电话会议结束后我们将进行现场直播,届时 Nvidia 几乎在这里翻绿,我们将分析所有发言内容。嗯,你看。它确实翻绿了。我们会分解接下来会发生什么。Mr. Invida 上的价格是 210。明天开盘变绿时,所有的评论都会非常高兴。
we will be live after the call as Nvidia almost flips green right here to analyze everything that was said. And um there you go. It does flip green. We'll break down what happens. 210 on Mr. Invida. Now all the comments are going to be super happy whenever it opens green tomorrow.
她想知道为什么 Nvidia 下跌。或者实际上,它现在是上涨的。我让全世界的人都在看这个视频 21040。好吧,你知道,上次也发生了这种情况。它在进入电话会议前只是小幅上涨。所以现在我们要看看电话会议的内容是否足够好以维持涨势。
She wants to know why Nvidia is down. Or actually, it's up now. I got everyone across the entire world watching this video 21040. All right, you know, this happened last time. It pumped just a little bit going into the call. So, now we just got to see if the call is good enough to keep it going.
推动全球基础设施建设,支持这一建设的是涵盖超大规模云服务商、AI 实验室、AI 原生公司、企业和主权客户在内的不断扩展且多样化的增长机会。我们预计 2028 财年的收入将增长约 70%。
driving a global infrastructure buildout supported by an expanding and diverse set of growth opportunities spanning hyperscalers, AI labs, AI natives, enterprises, and sovereign customers. We expect to grow revenue by approximately 70% in fiscal 2028.
这是一个供应受限的前景展望。第二季度数据中心收入环比增长 18%,达到 890 亿美元,其中两个子板块——超大规模(Hyperscale)和 ACE(包括我们的 Neocloud、工业和企业客户)——均贡献强劲。
This is a supply constrained outlook. Q2 data center revenue increased 18% quarter-over-arter to 89 billion with strong contributions from both sub segments hypers scale and ACE which includes our neocloud industrial and enterprise customers.
超大规模收入为 490 亿美元,环比增长 13%,主要受 Blackwell 持续强劲的推动,这印证了随着新的 GPU 产能上线,更多的算力驱动更多的收入。
Hypers scale revenue of 49 billion grew 13% sequentially driven by sustained strength in Blackwell reinforcing that more compute drives more revenue as new GPU capacity comes online.
我们的超大规模客户在本季度交出了强劲的财务业绩,收入增长加速,利润率扩大,云行业积压订单现已超过 2 万亿美元。
Our hypers scale customers delivered strong financial results in the quarter with accelerating revenue growth and expanding margins with cloud industry backlog now greater than two trillion.
预计五大超大规模云服务商的资本支出将在 2026 年达到近 8000 亿美元,并在 2027 年达到 1.3 万亿美元。
Papex by the top five hyperscalers is expected to reach nearly 800 billion in 2026 and 1.3 trillion in 2027.
今天,我们很高兴地宣布与 AWS 合作伙伴关系的扩展。在其已经庞大的 NVIDIA 计算安装基础之上,AWS 将从本季度开始至 2029 财年第二季度部署额外的 200 万块 GPU,以及 Vera CPU,其中一些与 Rubin 集成,另一些则独立运行。
Today we are delighted to announce an expansion of our partnership with AWS. Building on its already vast installed base of NVIDIA compute. AWS is deploying an additional 2 million GPUs starting this quarter through the second quarter of fiscal 29. along with Vera CPUs, some integrated with Reuben, others standalone.
ACINE 收入为 400 亿美元,环比增长 25%,同比增长 138%。增长是由 Neocloud 增加产能以满足来自企业、AI 初创公司和主权国家日益增长的需求所驱动的,同时也得益于超大规模云服务商使用 NVIDIA DSX 参考设计购买产能以补充其自身的建设。
ACINE revenue of 40 billion increased 25% sequentially and 138% year-over-year. Growth was driven by NeoCloud capacity additions to meet the rising demand from enterprises, AI startups and sovereigns as well as hyperscalers purchasing capacity to supplement their own buildouts using NVIDIA DSX reference designs.
我们的 Neocloud 合作伙伴正以更快速度和更低的代币成本上线产能。预计他们年底时的总安装容量将达到 8 吉瓦,高于 2025 年底的大约 3 吉瓦。
Our Neocloud partners are bringing capacity online faster and at lower token cost. They are expected to exit the year with 8 gigawatts in total installed capacity, up from approximately 3 gawatt at the end of 2025.
令人难以置信的是,即使在我们的规模下,我们也看到了需求加速。客户预测显示我们的增长明年将翻倍。然而,正如我之前提到的,由于供应受限,我们预计增长约为 70%。
Incredibly, we are seeing demand acceleration even at our scale. Customers forecasts point to our growth doubling next year. However, as I mentioned earlier, we expect to grow approximately 70% as we are supply constrained.
NVIDIA 的计算资源在我们服务的每一个云中都被充分利用。它为超大规模、Neocloud 和 AI 实验室合作伙伴产生的经济价值在不断上升。
NVIDIA compute is fully utilized across every cloud we serve. The economic value it generates for our hypers scale neocloud and AI lab partners keeps rising.
除了构建最好的 AI 计算技术和最有能力的供应链外,NVIDIA 还拥有三项独特能力,作为推动我们增长的引擎。首先,Nvidia 的架构运行每一个模型,随着封闭和开放模型采用的增长,我们的市场份额也在扩大。
Besides building the best AI computing technologies and the most capable supply chain, NVIDIA has three unique capabilities that are engines powering our growth. First, Nvidia's architecture runs every model and we're growing share as closed and open model adoption grow.
无论是闭源还是开源模型,采用率都在飙升。NVIDIA 运行着领先的闭源模型(OpenAI、Anthropic、Grock、Meta、Gemini)以及领先的开源模型(TML、Mistral、Quinn、Kimi、GLM、Deepseek、Miniaax 和 Neatron)。
Closed and open models alike, adoption is skyrocketing. NVIDIA runs the leading closed models, OpenAI, Anthropic, Grock, Meta, Gemini, and the leading open models, TML, Mistral, Quinn, Kimi, GLM, Deepseek, Miniaax, and Neatron.
我们擅长小型和巨型模型,无论是大型语言模型、视频、自动驾驶、回归模型还是扩散模型,无论是在云端还是边缘端。NVIDIA 在训练、推理和代理工作负载方面表现出色。一个平台可灵活适配所有模型和工作负载,并在 AI 的整个生命周期内保持持久性。
这种性能、灵活性和持久性的结合,使 Nvidia 成为高效且具备融资能力的计算基础设施。
We're great at small models and giant ones, large or video, auto, regressive, or diffusion, in the cloud or in the edge. NVIDIA is great at training, great at inference, great at agentic workloads. One platform fungeible for every model and workload, durable for the entire life cycle of AI. That combination of performance, fungeibility, and durability is what makes Nvidia the productive and financable compute infrastructure.
我们的第二项独特能力是扩展我们在数据中心总市场(TAM)份额的全栈 AI 工厂平台。自 Hopper 以来,我们的收入机会从每吉瓦约 180 亿美元增长到 Blackwell 的 250 亿美元,再到 Vera Rubin 的 400 亿美元,后者目前涵盖 Vera CPU、Ruben GPU、Envy Link、Infinibanner Ethernet 以及本周早些时候宣布的 Gro LPU。
Our second unique capability is our full stack AI factory platform that is expanding our share of the data center town. Since Hopper, our revenue opportunity has grown from roughly 18 billion per gigawatt to 25 billion with Blackwell to 40 billion with Vera Rubin, which now spans Vera CPU, Ruben GPU, Envy Link, Infinibanner Ethernet, and Gro LPU announced earlier this week.
我们在 GPU、CPU、NVLink 纵向扩展网络、横向扩展网络系统、算法和软件方面的极致协同设计能力,使我们能够在每一代产品中实现 X 倍的性能提升。
Our ability to extreme code design across GPU, CPU, NVLink scaleup networking, scale out networking systems, algorithms and software enables us to deliver X factor performance gain every generation.
Vera Rubin 体现了这一点,与 Grace Blackwell Ultra 相比,其每兆瓦吞吐量提高了 30 倍,令牌成本降低了 35 倍。
Vera Rubin exemplifies this, delivering 30x higher throughput per megawatt and 35x lower token cost relative to Grace Blackwell Ultra.
我们于本月早些时候开始了 Vera Rubin 的生产发货。鉴于已收到来自所有主要超大规模云服务商、AI 云和系统 OEM 的采购订单,我们预计 Deer Rubin 将标志着 Nvidia 历史上最快的产品爬坡期。
We commenced production shipments of Vera Rubin earlier this month. Having already received purchase orders from every major hyperscaler AI cloud and system OEM, we expect Deer Rubin to mark the fastest product ramp in Nvidia's history.
我们的网络业务再次创下季度纪录,收入环比增长 18%。Spectrum X Ethernet 同比增长了 2.6 倍至 6 倍,这已经帮助我们成为全球最大且增长最快的网络公司。
Our networking business had another record quarter with revenue growing 18% on a sequential basis. Spectrum X Ethernet, which grew 2.6x 6x on a year-over-year basis is already helping us become the largest and fastest growing network company in the world.
代理式 AI 采用率的上升正在推动对数据中心 CPU 需求的加速。我们于 2021 年推出的 Grace CPU 取得了巨大成功,过去 12 个月的收入超过 50 亿美元。
Rising adoption of Agentic AI is driving an acceleration in demand for data center CPUs. Our Grace CPU introduced in 2021 has been a great success with revenue on a trailing 12-month basis exceeding 5 billion.
今天,我们的下一代 Vera CPU 已进入全面生产阶段。作为独立产品,Vera 进一步扩大了我们的潜在市场规模(TAM)。在规范基准测试中,Vera 完成生成任务的速度快 1.8 倍,并且每瓦带宽是其他任何数据中心 CPU 的五倍。
Today we are in full production of our next generation Vera CPU. As a standalone product, Vera expands our TAM even further. Vera completes a genic task 1.8x faster on the spec benchmark and provides five times the bandwidth per watt than any other data center CPU.
我们预计 Vera 将被所有主要超大规模云服务商、Neocloud、AI 实验室和系统 OEM 部署,目前已向包括 OCI、SpaceX AI 在内的领先合作伙伴发货,并从本季度开始向 AWS 发货。
We expect Vera to be deployed by every major hyperscaler, Neocloud, AI lab, and system OEM with shipments already underway to our lead partners including OCI, SpaceX AI, and starting this quarter, AWS.
我们继续看到对约 200 亿颗服务器 CPU 的需求。基于客户需求及改善的供应前景,我们的初步预期是 CPU 收入将在 2028 财年翻倍以上,这将使我们成为全球领先的服务器 CPU 供应商之一。
We continue to see demand for approximately 20 billion in total server CPUs. And based on our customer demand and improving supply outlook, our preliminary expectation is for CPU revenue to more than double in fiscal 28, positioning us as one of the world's leading server CPU suppliers.
自去年宣布与 Grock 合作以来,我们一直在努力统一 Nvidia 的高吞吐量和 Grock 的高交互性架构。在本周早些时候的 Hot Chips 大会上,我们宣布 Gro 3 LPX——我们的首个机架级 LPU 系统——已进入全面生产并正在创造纪录,在我们的 Artificial Analysis 基准测试中,其每秒令牌数几乎是次优替代方案的 4 倍。
Since the announcement of our Grock partnership last year, we've been working to unite Nvidia's high throughput and Grock's high interactivity architectures. At hot chips earlier this week, we announced that Gro 3 LPX, our first rack scale LPU system, is in full production and already setting records, demonstrating nearly 4x the number of tokens per second against the next best alternative on our artificial analysis benchmark.
我们预计将在本季度末或下季度初向早期采用者批量发货 Gro 3 LPX。NAUAS 将成为首家客户。如今,我们不仅是在销售最好的芯片,而是在销售全栈 AI 工厂平台,为客户提供更优越的经济效益,并获取更大的数据中心总市场份额。
We expect to ship Gro 3 LPX in volume later this quarter to early adopters. NAUAS will be the first. Today, we're not just selling the best chips. We're selling a full stack AI factory platform offering superior economics for customers and capturing a bigger share of the data center town.
我们的第三项独特能力是全栈 AI 工厂与丰富的 CUDA 生态系统的结合,这使我们能够将 AI 扩展到单靠一颗芯片永远无法触及的市场。在超大规模云服务商之外,存在着一个渴望采用 AI 的巨大市场,这些客户没有兴趣设计自己的定制硅片。
NVIDIA 完全经过验证的全栈平台非常适合帮助主权国家、Neocloud 和企业构建其 AI 基础设施,使其投入全面运营,通过 CUDA 软件持续优化,并将其与我们庞大开发者生态系统中的承购需求连接起来。
Our third unique capability is the combination of our full stack AI factory and rich CUDA ecosystem allowing us to extend AI into markets a single chip alone can never reach. Beyond the hyperscalers lies a massive market anxious to adopt AI. Customers with no interest in designing their own custom silicon. NVIDIA's fully proven full stack platform is uniquely suited to help sovereigns, neoclouds, and enterprises build their AI infrastructure, bring it to full operation, continuously optimize it through CUDA software and connect it to offtake demand from our vast developer ecosystem.
超大规模云服务商仍将是主要的增长驱动力,但非超大规模云服务商的增长——涵盖主权区域、Neocloud、企业边缘和隔离数据中心的 R AI 和 E 细分市场——将约占我们数据中心业务的一半。
Hyperscalers will remain a major growth driver but non-hyperscaler growth R AI and E segment spanning sovereign regional Neoclouds enterprise edge and air gap data centers will represent roughly half of our data center business.
主要在 NVIDIA 计算平台上开发和运行的 AI 原生初创企业生态系统正在快速扩张。全球 AI 风险投资资金约有 70% 用于计算,在 2026 年上半年超过了 4000 亿美元,超过了 2025 年全年筹集的 2650 亿美元。
Our AI native startup ecosystem developed and running primarily on the NVIDIA compute platform is scaling at a rapid pace. Global VC funding in AI roughly 70% of which is spent on compute exceeded 400 billion in the first half of 2026 surpassing the 265 billion raised in all of 2025.
近 20 家公司,包括 SpaceX 拥有的 Cursor、Figma 和 Together AI,目前的年化运行率收入已超过 10 亿美元,高于去年第四季度的 13 家,其中垂直企业软件在企业市场中录得最快增长。
Nearly 20 companies, including Cursor, owned by SpaceX, Figma, and Together AI, now exceed 1 billion in annualized run rate revenue, up from 13 companies in Q4 of last year, with vertical enterprise software logging the fastest growth in enterprise.
在过去 12 个月的基础上,汽车行业的本地部署收入达到 80 亿美元,而金融服务、制造业和医疗保健合计贡献了 70 亿美元的收入。
On a trailing 12-month basis, on-prem revenue in the automotive vertical reached eight billion, while financial services, manufacturing, and healthcare combined contributed 7 billion in revenue.
Hudson River Trading 和 Jane Street 正在利用由 Nvidia 驱动的 AI 工厂来加速量化交易。
Hudson River Trading and Jane Street are leveraging Nvidia's powered AI factories to accelerate quantitative trading. Samsung Electronics is using Nvidia Kulitho to achieve up to 20x greater performance in computational lithography. In sovereign AI, our business primarily through the regional neoclouds grew 35% sequentially and more than tripled year-over-year in Q2.
暂无中文转述,仅英文原句可核对。
A country or region can allocate land and power directly to a regional cloud partner in ways it never would to a foreign hyperscaler. We don't own a cloud ourselves. We are neutral partner to every sovereign and neo cloud. And because Nvidia compute is productive, fungeible, rentable and durable, regional cloud interest is surging around the world. We helped Quarweave, NAUA and NScale build entire infrastructure businesses and Neoclouds are emerging everywhere. Firebird in in Armenia, Casaba Technologies across Africa, GMI Cloud in Taiwan, Yoda and Nasa in India, Hermis in Australia, YTLAI cloud in Malaysia, pairing local land power and operating expertise with our platform. Last month, we announced a partnership with Noatra, Japan's national AI company, to build an NVIDIA DSX AI factory that will create open models to power AI agents, digital twins, robotics, and physical AI applications. South Korea's LG and Hyundai Motor Group are partnering with Nvidia to build and scale AI. And in Europe, a record 35 new NVIDIA powered AI supercomputers were unveiled to advance industry and scientific breakthroughs. NeoClouds are seeing strong demand pipelines for many diverse offtakers. Rather than allocating their entire capacity to a single long-term offtake guarantee that lenders typically require to finance a data center independently, we have introduced a revenue sharing structure. NVIDIA provides a take-pay commitment on a portion of the facility's capacity, a minimum revenue guarantee that gives lenders the confidence to underwrite the project, and in exchange, we share in a portion of the Neocloud's revenue earned above that floor.
暂无中文转述,仅英文原句可核对。
Independent Capital still underwrites every deal on its own merits. We're not making loans. In this model, we get paid twice. once on the hardware sale and again through the share of rental revenue. A highly reoccurring stream layered on top of a one-time equipment purchase. Over time, this model can expand our addressable market and create reoccurring usage linked revenue stream alongside our core platform revenue with the potential to drive billions in revenue over the medium to long term. Together, Nvidia's three unique capabilities. A platform that runs every model, a full stack AI factory platform capturing more of the data center TAM, and a CUDA ecosystem that extends AI into markets no single chip could reach alone reinforce one another and are the engines of our growth. Let me update you on our progress with our Frontier AI labs. The Frontier AI labs have extraordinary demand for training and inference compute, but they are growing faster than what their balance sheets and credit profiles can support. They have rapidly growing customer demand, yet still lack the decadesl long infrastructure contracts and investment grade financing capacity needed to secure the AI factory infrastructure independently. In other words, their growth isn't limited by their technology or customer demand. It's limited by compute. For these companies, more compute means more more intelligence, more users, and more revenue. NVIDIA is needed to help power this flywheel. First, we've invested nearly 50 billion in the Frontier AI labs. This was a meaningful commitment, but it represented a small fraction of our expected free cash flow over the same period.
暂无中文转述,仅英文原句可核对。
Further, to support the Frontier Labs infrastructure buildouts, we recently announced partnerships with six of the world's leading infrastructure capital providers, Apollo, Black Rockck, Blackstone, Brookfield, Goldman Sachs, and KKR to establish financing platforms that will raise over 500 billion of thirdparty capital. With these partnerships, building on our unique, funible, and durable computing platform, the AI labs will be able to build and assess AI infrastructure funded by long-term institutional capital at relatively attractive rates. Last week, we announced that we secured land power shell capacity through our partnership with SoftBank Energy to exclusively host NVIDIA compute at their Portsouth campus. The initial deployment expected to support 4.25 gawatts of AI factory capacity will be utilized by OpenAI. Each generation of NVIDIA AI factory systems deployed at Portspike could represent approximately 1.5 million NVIDIA GPUs and over 20 years the site could support multiple upgrade cycles. Here's the essential economic point. The LPS commitment secures a long lived AI factory site while the Nvidia compute within the data center can be upgraded repeatedly.
作为背景信息,我们预计来自AI实验室的需求——我们将利用资产负债表来支持这些需求——将在明年贡献约四分之一的业务量。这仍然是由投资级客户或由其支持的实体所消耗的计算能力。
This project deepens our long-standing partnership with OpenAI. OpenAI has committed to substantially deployments of NVIDIA AI infrastructure through 2030. OpenAI's existing and planned commitments represent approximately 12 gawatt of Nvidia compute. for another Frontier AI lab. We will provide selective credit enhancement for nearly two gigawatts of compute. This complements the substantial NVIDIA compute capacity they've secured independently without Nvidia's credit support. We recognize the scale of this support and we know some will call this circular financing. We see it differently. We're going through a major computing platform shift, the creation of one of the most important technologies in human history, and these are once- in a generation companies. Their technology leadership is proven, and their customer traction and usage are skyrocketing. We expect them to become the largest technology companies in history. We believe these investments measured against the strength of their demand, the business they create for us, the ecosystem they build on Nvidia's platform, and the equity returns on our invested capital will be excellent, and our risk is limited. The NVIDIA compute platform is funible and durable and can be redeployed to support other customers. For context, we expect demand from the AI labs for which we expect to leverage our balance sheet to contribute toward roughly a quarter of our business next year. This remains compute we ship will be consumed by investment grade customers or those that are backed by one.
在第二季度,根据美国政府许可证,我们向中国客户发货的Hopper 200产品占数据中心总收入的不到1%。目前的Hopper出货量稀释了公司毛利率,鉴于持续的地缘政治不确定性,我们的前瞻展望中没有包含中国数据中心计算收入。
In Q2, we ship less than 1% of our total data center revenue in Hopper 200 products to customers based in China in accordance with the US government licenses. Current Hopper shipments are dilutive to corporate gross margins and given ongoing geopolitical in uncertainty, there is no China data center compute revenue in our forward outlook.
转向损益表的其他部分,GAAP和非GAAP毛利率均为75%,由于产品结构相似,与上季度相比基本保持不变。GAAP和非GAAP运营费用环比分别增长10%和11%,主要由于高计算基础设施成本以及薪酬福利成本。
我们的非GAAP有效税率为16%,较一年前上升,主要由于收入增加。
Moving to the rest of the P&L, GAP and non-GAAP gross margins were both 75% largely unchanged from last quarter due to a similar product mix. GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses were up 10% and 11% sequentially primarily due to high compute infrastructure costs and compensation and benefits costs. Our non-GAAP effective tax rate of 16% increased from a year ago primarily due to higher revenue.
在资产负债表方面,随着我们为Vera Rubin发布做准备,库存增至320亿美元。应收账款周转天数增至60天,反映了某些投资级客户的大额采购延长了付款期限,这些货物将分多个季度发货。
On our balance sheet, inventory increased to 32 billion as we prepared for the Vera Rubin launch. Days of sales outstanding increased to 60 days, reflecting extended payment terms for large purchases by certain investment grade customers to be shipped over multiple quarters.
在第二季度,我们向股东返还了创纪录的260亿美元,其中200亿美元通过股票回购,60亿美元通过每股25美分的季度股息。相对于我们计划返还50%或更多的自由现金流,年初至今我们已返还了60%。
展望未来,我们打算增加并返还扣除战略用途后的超额自由现金流。
In Q2, we returned a record 26 billion to shareholders, 20 billion through share repurchases, and six billion through our quarterly dividend of 25 cents per share. Relative to our plan to return 50% or more of free cash flow, we have returned 60% on a year-to-ate basis. And going forward, we intend to increase and return excess free cash flow net of strategic uses.
让我谈谈第三季度的展望。总收入预计为1080亿美元,上下浮动2%。我们预计环比增长主要由ACINE(注:原文如此,可能指代特定业务线或拼写错误,保留原样)及数据中心驱动,而超大规模云服务商的增长预计在第四季度及进入2028财年时重新加速,因为Vera Rubin的供应量随时间推移逐渐增加。
Let me turn to the outlook for the third quarter. Total revenue is expected to be 108 billion plus and minus 2%. We expect sequential growth to be driven primarily by ACINE with data center while growth in hyperscale is expected to reacelerate in Q4 and into fiscal year 28 as supply of Vera Rubin grows over time.
我们看到Vera Rubin约占第三季度数据中心收入的20%。
We see Vera Rubin accounting for about 20% of data center revenue in Q3.
展望未来,我们初步预期2028财年收入同比增长约70%。虽然我们将努力缩小供需缺口,但预计供应至少在2028财年底之前仍将是瓶颈。
Looking ahead, our preliminary expectation is for fiscal year 28 revenue to grow approximately 70% year-over-year. Although we will work to close the supply demand gap, we expect supply to remain a bottleneck at least through the end of fiscal year 28.
你们中的许多人对我们毛利率表示担忧,因为组件成本大幅上升。正如你们已经意识到的那样,我们正在经历内存市场的极端定价条件。价格上涨幅度超出了我们之前的预期,并将在明年继续走高。因此,我们今天重置了预期。
对于第三季度,我们预计GAAP和非GAAP毛利率为74%,正负50个基点。我们预计利润率将在第四季度触底,处于71%至72%的区间。
Many of you have expressed concerns regarding our gross margins as component costs have risen significantly. As you are already aware, we are experiencing extreme pricing conditions in memory. The magnitude of the price increase has exceeded our prior expectations and are headed even higher into next year. As a result, we are resetting expectations today. For Q3, we expect gap and non-GAAP gross margins to be 74% plus or minus 50 basis points. We expect margins to bottom in Q4 in the 71 to 72% range
我们希望直接说明这一点,而不是让它作为一个悬而未决的问题存在。今天的内存稀缺在很大程度上是由AI建设本身驱动的。与仅仅提高我们成本而没有抵消收益的组件不同,更紧张的内存供应是驱动我们自身增长的同一需求激增的症状。
我们与所有三家主要内存供应商有着长期深厚的关系,并正与他们密切合作,以进一步增加我们路线图所需的产能。
We want to be direct about this rather than let it linger as an open question. Memory scarcity today is being driven in large part by the AI buildout itself. And unlike a component that simply raises our cost with no offset benefit, tighter memory supply is a symptom of the same demand surge that's driving our own growth. We have a longstanding deep relationships with all three major memory suppliers, and we're working closely with them to further increase the capacity our roadmap requires.
全年GAAP和非GAAP运营费用预计分别为约92亿美元和90亿美元。我们现在预计运营费用将增长50%出头,这得益于产品组合的扩大以及AI工具使用量的进一步增加,后者已经并将继续提高工程生产力。
GAP and non-GAAP operating expenses are expected to be approximately 9.2 billion and 9.0 billion respectively for the full year. We now expect OPEX to grow in the low 50s driven by a broadening of our product portfolio and further increase in the usage of AI tools which is already and will continue to enhance engineering productivity
对于2027财年,我们继续预计GAAP和非GAAP税率将在16%至18%之间,不包括任何离散项目和税务环境的重大变化。
for full year fiscal year 27. We continue to expect GAP and non-GAAP tax raises to be between 16 and 18%. Excluding any discrete items and material changes to our tax environment.
是的,谢谢Joe。正如你们可能已经注意到的,AI变得有用,且正在被广泛采用的AI代理使用了大量的计算资源。首先,大型语言模型比以往任何时候都更大,因为它们比以往任何时候都更智能,而这些代理会进行推理和规划、多轮工具使用。
一个代理所需的计算量与人类使用它相比,取决于试图解决的问题类型,可能是15到100倍。因此,所需的计算量仅仅是惊人的。这是几乎每个人都能看到的一个因素。人们看不到我们增长的一部分,因为我们在交付产品的方式上几乎是独一无二的。
我是说,我们是世界上唯一一家创建、构建并提供整个AI工厂平台、全栈系统的公司。客户仍然可以混搭。然而,大多数公司只是没有这样做的技能或意愿。因此,有一个完整的市场部分,我们在那里体验增长。
那是主权AI、区域AI、新云、AI初创企业、企业,我们在这些地方看到增长,这约占我们业务的一半,并且每年增长100%。世界计算的这一部分随着时间的推移可能会比我们在云中目前经历的还要大。
所以我认为我们看到的需求是由所有这些因素驱动的。情况也是如此,你不再能单纯地采购技术并建立这些基础设施。你必须去确保土地、电力和外壳,你知道这通常需要两三年时间,以及所有必要的供应链来协调建设、电力、冷却,你知道所有必要的劳动力,而且AI基础设施正在美国各地和世界各地创造大量就业机会,这需要更多的规划,所以我们现在参与确保基础设施,而在管道中更进一步。
你知道,就像很久以前人们问我,为什么作为一家芯片公司我们要与内存供应商合作?今天,人们理解我们在供应链上游如此远的工作是非常聪明的。我们与发电公司合作。我们在下游与土地、电力和外壳公司合作,遍布全球。
这有助于准备所有将要构建的计算,最终为我们的生态系统和客户部署。因此,我们现在在上游和下游都有更大的可见性。情况是,我们从未预测或指导过提前一年的情况,即使我们的需求远大于70%。
我们的供应允许我们自信地交付70%。我们将继续与我们的供应链合作以增加这一点。但我们想要做的是与客户、股东、供应链等所有人保持一致,让每个人都看到相同的观点。之所以重要,是因为每个人都在投入大量资源。
所以我们想确保每个人都有一组相同的信息。我们明年将迎来巨大的一年。这将非常非凡。
Yeah, thanks Joe. Um, as as you probably are aware, AI has become useful and the the AI agents uh that are being adopted everywhere use an enormous amount of compute. Uh, first of all, the large language models are are larger than ever because they're smarter than ever and and these agents uh go through uh reasoning and planning, multi multiple turns of tool use. uh the amount of compute necessary for an agent versus a human using it is probably 15 to 100 times depending on on the type of problem you're trying to solve. And so the amount of compute necessary is just extraordinary. That's that's a factor that almost everybody sees. The part that people don't see about our growth because we're practically singular because the the nature of how we deliver products. I mean, we're the only company in the world that creates and builds offers an an entire AI factory platform, a full stack system. And you know, customers can still mix and match. However, uh most most companies just don't have the skills to do that or desire to do that. And so, there's an entire part of the market that we experience growth. uh their sovereign AI, the regional AIs, their neoclouds, their AI startups, their enterprises where where we're seeing um which is represents about half of our business and that's growing 100% a year. That part of the the world's computing is likely to to be larger over time uh than even what we're currently experiencing in the cloud. And so so I think the the demand that we see is driven by all of those factors. Uh it is also the case that that you can no longer procure uh technology per se and stand up these infrastructure. you've got to go secure the land power and shell which you know often times is a couple two three years out um all of the rest of the supply chain necessary to uh align the construction the power the cooling um you know all of the labor that's necessary and we're AI infrastructure is creating so many jobs all over the United States and all around the world uh it just takes a lot more planning and so we're involved in in securing infrastructure now uh further they're down the pipeline. You know, just as a long time ago, people ask me, why is it that we're working with memory suppliers uh when we're a chip company? And today, people understand it's it's really quite genius that we were working on our supply chain so far upstream. We work with power generator companies. We uh downstream we work with um uh work with land power and shell companies um all around the world. And that helps prepare all of this computing that's going to be built uh that will ultimately deploy for our ecosystem and our customers. And so we just have a lot greater visibility now upstream and downstream. Um it is the case that we've never forecasted or never guided to uh a year in advance and and um even though our demand is much greater than 70%. Um, our supply allows us to confidently deliver 70%. And we're going to continue to work with our supply chain to increase on on that. Uh, but what we wanted to do is to be consistent with everybody from our customers, our shareholders, our supply chain, everybody sees the same view. And the reason why that's important is because, you know, everybody's putting a lot of resources at play. And so we wanted to make sure that everybody has the same set of information. And um we've got a huge year coming up next year. Uh and and uh it's going to be pretty extraordinary.
是的,谢谢 CJ。AI 生命周期正变得比以往复杂得多,并且对 Nvidia 架构的契合度也远超以往。你可以将其视为四个阶段:第一阶段是准备所需的所有数据,其中部分为合成数据,部分为真实数据,部分由人工标注和生成;接着是预训练模型;然后是第三阶段的后期训练;最后是智能体推理(agentic inference),而智能体推理极其复杂,因此每个阶段都很复杂。
Nvidia 架构真正出色之处在于,我们利用 NVLink 72 创造了这一架构。当我们首次推出全球首个机架级架构时,这对世界来说是一个巨大的惊喜。这绝非易事,构建第一代系统极具挑战性。
目前我们已进入 NVLink 72 机架级系统的第三代,我们必须彻底重塑整个供应链、重塑系统、重塑技术、重新分配软件资源、重构软件,每一个环节都充满艰辛。但这使我们能够创建一个可互换的系统,从而在数据创建、数据准备、预训练、后期训练到智能体推理之间实现过渡。
这对客户的好处是惊人的。原因在于,正如我们刚才提到的,每一吉瓦的技术投入以及 Nvidia 的收入敞口,在 Hopper 时代包括 Hopper 加上 InfiniBand,现在则是 Vera Rubin 加上 CPU 以及三种不同的网络类型——因为需要这么多类型的网络来应对全球数据中心的需求,更不用说 Scale-in 安全网络和跨多机架的网络了。
所以你可以说存在五种不同类型的网络系统,当然还有 Grock,所有这些都将我们的每吉瓦收入贡献或收入机会提升到了 400 亿美元。因此,每吉瓦数据中心的价值从大约五年前的 300 亿美元增加到了如今的 600 亿美元。
当然,生产力是巨大的,性能相比之下也是惊人的,但你谈论的是 600 亿美元的投资。如果你能在 AI 生命周期的多个阶段使用它,运行你能想象到的每一种类型的模型,无论是扩散模型、自回归模型、状态空间模型还是某种混合版本,无论是哪种注意力机制,无论是小模型还是大模型,你所做的投资将在更长时间内保持保值、有用且富有成效。
因此,我认为在这个新世界中的优势确实非常非凡,这也可能解释了为什么我们的增长实际上正在加速——它原本就已经很大,但现在正在加速。
Yeah, thanks CJ. um the AI life cycle is getting way more complex than it used to be and and it's playing um you know into Nvidia's architecture much much more greatly than it used to be and and so you could kind of see it as four phases you know there's the first phase which is preparing all of the the data that you need some of it is synthetic some of it is real some of it is human labor human labeled and generated pre-train the models and then there's post training the third phase and then there's the agentic inference and agentic inference is extremely complicated and so every one of those phases are complicated. The thing that's really great about the NVIDIA architecture and we created this uh with MVLink 72 it was a big surprise on the world when we first created the first the world's first rack scale architecture it was it was it was hardly easy um and it was very challenging building the first generation we're now in our third generation of MVLink 72 rack scale systems we had to reinvent the entire supply chain reinvent systems reinvent the technology redistribute our software refactor factor, our software, everything, every aspect of was hard. But what it allowed us to do was to create one fungeable system that allows us to transition from data creation, data preparation, the pre-training to post-raining to agentic inference. The the benefits to customers is incredible. And the reason for that is because you've just spent, you know, and we just mentioned um each gigawatt of technology and Nvidia's revenue exposure in the hopper time frame with hopper plus infiniband and now vera rubin and CPU and three types of different networking because it takes that many types of networking to address the entire world's data center not to mention the scalein security networking and the scale across multiacus networking. So you could you could argue five different types of networking systems and then of course Grock and all of that increased our revenue contribution or revenue opportunity per gigawatt to $40 billion. So each gigawatt of data center um increased from say $30 billion about five years ago to now $60 billion uh today. Of course, the productivity is tremendous. The the performance is incredible uh in comparison, but you're talking about a 60 billion dollar investment. And to the extent that you could you could use it across multiple phases of the AI life cycle, run every single type of model you can imagine running on it, whether it's diffusion or auto reggressive or state space or some hybrid version of that. every version of attention mechanism you can think of small or large models um the light the the the sa the the the investment that you make um will be pres preserved and useful and productive for a lot longer time and so so I think our our advantage in this new world is really quite extraordinary and it it could explain you know why it is that our growth is actually accelerating it was already large um but now it's accelerating
让我们看看你问到的 Grock。我们对 Gro 3 感到非常兴奋。我们实现了创纪录的令牌交互率,具有极低的延迟性能和生成速度。团队表现出色。过去几个月,我们一直在融合 NVLink 架构,这将成为核心引擎,用于那些希望拥有超高交互性、超高速令牌生成的服务。
你知道,吞吐量会低很多,每令牌成本会更高,但你可以将其与高 ASP(平均售价)服务联系起来,因此对于这类公司,你可以加装一个我们的 Grock 加速器。我对此感到非常兴奋。但世界上绝大多数数据中心将只是 Vera Rubin NVLink72。
Uh let's see you as you asked about Grock. Super excited about uh Gro 3. Uh we achieved a uh record token interactiv interactive interactivity rate extremely low latency performance generation. The team is doing fantastically. uh we spent the last several months fusing uh the MVLink architecture uh which will be the the core and it'll be the core engine and then for for uh services that would like to have super high interactivity uh super high speed token generation done um you know the the throughput is going to be a lot lower uh the cost per token will be higher uh but you could you could associate it with you know high ASP uh services and so for those companies you could bolt on one of our Grock accelerators. I'm super excited about that. But the vast majority of the world's data centers will just be Vera Rubin MVLink72.
不受约束的增长率会高得多。今年我们实现了 100% 的同比增长。不受约束的需求是显著的。所以我们必须努力工作以获取更多产能。我们拥有庞大的供应链,一个真正巨大的供应链,我们有极好的合作伙伴,我们已经确保了大量供应,但我们只需要更多。
分解来看,思考这个问题的方式是,大多数人只看到超大规模云服务商,但这只是一半的情况。另一半情况是我们所谓的 AC(企业/主权 AI 等),包括所有企业、新云服务商、主权 AI 等。
世界的这一部分对所有人来说都是不可见的,原因是他们不购买定制芯片,也不单独购买芯片,他们真正需要的是为他们构建的整个工厂平台。这是一个我们能创造巨大价值的领域。当然,回到超大规模云服务商这个领域,那里也在以惊人的速度增长。
你知道,他们现在有 2 万亿美元的积压订单。当他们部署 Nvidia 计算能力时,他们的收入会增加,盈利贡献也会增加。计算在今天是非常盈利的,计算直接转化为收入增长。因此,无论是在超大规模云服务商内部,还是在外部,都存在一种竞相上线更多 Nvidia 计算能力的趋势,而你看不到的正是超大规模云服务商之外的巨大机遇。
另一部分是,这也是我们为你梳理清楚的原因:在 Hopper 案例中,我们约为每吉瓦 180 亿美元。对于 Grace Blackwell,我们约为每吉瓦 250 亿美元,而对于 Vera Rubin,则约为每吉瓦 400 亿美元。
每一代的生产力都有倍数级的提升,因此客户希望尽可能快地转向下一代。与此同时,由于 Nvidia 的计算效率极高,他们生成的令牌、出租的 GPU 小时数利润惊人。如你所知,他们的利润率非常好。
所有这一切都在同时发生。我认为大局是,我们正在经历这种平台转变,它影响着每一家计算机公司,而世界上每一个行业都使用计算机。因此,每个行业都受到影响,每家公司都受到影响,这种新的计算方式是智能化的。
它不再基于文件检索,而是现在生成智能,这需要计算能力,但你得到的结果是现象级的。你得到的结果要好得多。我们看到全世界都是如此。每个人都想成为 AI 革命的一部分。每个人都将不得不参与这次计算转变,每个人都必须构建基础设施。
the unconstrained would be lot a lot higher. It's um we grew 100% year-over-year. this year. Um the unconstrained uh you know is is significant. And so we're just going to have to go work hard to get more capacity. Uh and and you know we have we have a large supply chain. We have a really gigantic supply chain and and so we have incredible partners um and we've secured a lot of supply but we just need a lot more. uh to break it down the the way to think about that is most people see just hyperscalers and that's half of the that's half of the picture the other half of the picture is what we call AC and that's all the enterprise the neoclouds the sovereign AIS you know that part of the world is invisible to everybody and the reason for that is because they they don't buy custom chips they don't buy chips one at a they really need an entire factory platform built for them. Um and and so that's that's a space that we add just a tremendous amount of value. Now of course back in this hypers scale space that's growing incredibly too right you know that they they now have backlogs of $2 trillion you know that uh when they stand up Nvidia compute when that happens their revenues go up their earnings contribution go up uh compute is profitable very profitable today and compute directly translates into increased revenues and so there's a there's a just a a race to want to bring more Nvidia compute online um both at the hyperscalers, but what you don't see is just really tremendous opportunities outside of the hyperscalers. Um but the the other the other part of it is and the reason why you know we mapped it out for you uh in the case of Hopper we were at about 18 billion per gigawatt. Uh for Grace Blackwell we're about 25 billion per gigawatt and for Vera Rubin it's about 40 billion per per gawatt. and and um the productivity is you know X factors uh increase in each generation and so customers want to race to the next generation as fast as they can. Meanwhile, because Nvidia's compute is so productive, they're the tokens they're generating, the GPU hours they're renting out is insanely profitable. As you know, their margins are fantastic. And so so all of that is just simultaneously happen happening. I think the big picture is is that we're going through this platform shift and it affects every computer company and every comp every industry in the world uses computers. So therefore every industry is affected, every company is affected and this new way of doing computing um is intelligent. It's not based on retrieval of files, but it's now generative generating intelligence and that requires compute, but the results you get is phenomenal. The results you get is tremendously better. And so, you know, you wor yet we're just seeing that across the world. Everybody wants to be part of the AI revolution. Everybody want everybody will have to be part of this computing shift and everybody has to build infrastructure.
当这种情况发生时,他们的收入会增加,盈利贡献也会增加。计算在今天是非常盈利的,计算直接转化为收入增长。因此,无论是在超大规模云服务商内部,还是在外部,都存在一种竞相上线更多 Nvidia 计算能力的趋势,而你看不到的正是超大规模云服务商之外的巨大机遇。
happens their revenues go up their earnings contribution go up uh compute is profitable very profitable today and compute directly translates into increased revenues and so there's a there's a just a a race to want to bring more Nvidia compute online um both at the hyperscalers, but what you don't see is just really tremendous opportunities outside of the hyperscalers.
另一部分是,这也是我们为你梳理清楚的原因:在 Hopper 案例中,我们约为每吉瓦 180 亿美元。对于 Grace Blackwell,我们约为每吉瓦 250 亿美元,而对于 Vera Rubin,则约为每吉瓦 400 亿美元。
每一代的生产力都有倍数级的提升,因此客户希望尽可能快地转向下一代。
Um but the the other the other part of it is and the reason why you know we mapped it out for you uh in the case of Hopper we were at about 18 billion per gigawatt. Uh for Grace Blackwell we're about 25 billion per gigawatt and for Vera Rubin it's about 40 billion per per gawatt. and and um the productivity is you know X factors uh increase in each generation and so customers want to race to the next generation as fast as they can.
与此同时,由于 Nvidia 的计算效率极高,他们生成的令牌、出租的 GPU 小时数利润惊人。如你所知,他们的利润率非常好。
Meanwhile, because Nvidia's compute is so productive, they're the tokens they're generating, the GPU hours they're renting out is insanely profitable. As you know, their margins are fantastic.
所有这一切正在同时发生。我认为大局是,我们正经历这一平台转型,它影响着每一家计算机公司,而世界上每个行业都使用计算机。因此,每个行业、每家公司都受到影响,这种新的计算方式是智能的。
它不再基于文件检索,而是生成智能,这需要算力,但由此获得的结果是惊人的,好得太多。我们看到全世界都在如此,每个人都想成为AI革命的一部分。每个人都将不得不参与这次计算转型,并且都必须构建基础设施。
And so so all of that is just simultaneously happen happening. I think the big picture is is that we're going through this platform shift and it affects every computer company and every comp every industry in the world uses computers. So therefore every industry is affected, every company is affected and this new way of doing computing um is intelligent. It's not based on retrieval of files, but it's now generative generating intelligence and that requires compute, but the results you get is phenomenal. The results you get is tremendously better. And so, you know, you wor yet we're just seeing that across the world. Everybody wants to be part of the AI revolution. Everybody want everybody will have to be part of this computing shift and everybody has to build infrastructure.
我们正在构建的东西非常不同,许多XPU是针对单一云或单一服务的推理专用芯片,而NVIDIA是一个平台,一个涵盖整个AI生命周期的完整AI工厂平台,可在任何云上使用。它在每一个云中,你可以在任何地方运行,我们会帮助你在任何地方部署。
因此,我们构建了截然不同的东西。所有的AI服务最终都会走向全球,而这些数据中心不一定仅由它们自己建设。我完全预期,也认为它们将在全球范围内运行在NVIDIA上。当然,我有100%的信心,我们的技术将继续为它们提供卓越的表现,无论是从数据处理到训练、后训练还是代理处理,使用我们技术的经济效益对它们来说都是非凡的。
它们会使用它,所以我非常有信心,它们将成为我们长期的客户和合作伙伴。
Well, we're building something very different, you know, whereas whereas uh many of these these XPUs are inference specific chips um for one cloud or one service, NVIDIA is a a platform an entire AI factory platform that spans the entire AI life cycle that you can use in any cloud. It's in every cloud. You can run anywhere. We'll help you set it up anywhere. And um I and so we built something very different. Um these all of the AI services at some point are going to want to go around the world and those data centers won't necessarily be just built by them. and and um and also you know I fully expect and so they're they're going to run and I think they're going to run on Nvidia u all around the world and and of course I think our technology I have 100% confidence that our technology will continue to be extraordinary for them and that the economics of using our technology you know whether it's from data processing to to uh training to post training to agentic processing um our technology is going to be extraordinary for them. They're going to use it and so I have every confident that they're going to be customers and partners of ours for a very long time.
话虽如此,退一步看,投资这两家公司——或者我们投资的几家AI实验室——是一代人中难得的机会。我唯一的遗憾是没有更早、更多地投资。这两家公司很可能很快就会上市,其他公司也会跟进。
它们将成为历史上最具影响力的科技公司之一。我很高兴能成为它们的朋友,很高兴与它们合作,很高兴它们在NVIDIA架构之上构建生态系统,也很高兴它们依靠我们来扩大规模。我有100%的信心,在相当长的一段时间内,它们将利用NVIDIA算力进行大量计算,对此我感觉很好。
Now, having said that, taking a step backwards, investing in these two companies or there are several AI labs that we've invested in, investing in these companies are once in a generation opportunity. I think the only regret that I have is that I didn't invest more and sooner and both of the two of the companies will likely go public soon and others will follow. Um, and these will be some of the most consequential technology companies in history. And so I'm delighted to be friend to be their friend. I'm delighted to partner with them. I'm delighted that they're building an ecosystem on top of the NVIDIA architecture. Uh, I'm delighted that that they're they're counting on us to scale up. And I I I have a 100% confidence um that you know through through quite a long period of time uh they're going to be utilizing Nvidia compute uh for a lot of their computing and so I feel great about it.
让我再补充一点关于承诺以及其中属于供应承诺的部分。这是至关重要的,对于今天Vera Rubin的量产以及明年的全部生产都是必不可少的。你可以看到,这些承诺中最大的部分集中在前三年,我们将利用这些资源来制造所需的产品。
这也让我们对收入增长充满信心,因为我们在供应和产能方面已经对齐了如此多的承诺。
>> So let me add a little bit more regarding uh the commitments and uh the portion within those commitments which is our supply commitments. This is essential. This is essential for um the raising of Vera Rubin today as well as all next year. You can see that those commitments the biggest parts of them are in the first three years and we will use that to build the products that we need. This what also gives us the confidence in terms of our growth in revenue given how much we have already aligned in commitment in terms of our supply as well as capacity that we would need.
世界既需要封闭模型也需要开放模型,而且两者的使用量都在激增。我会说,几乎所有开放模型都在NVIDIA上运行,原因是NVIDIA在全球的足迹最广,且我们的架构最具灵活性。它无处不在,从PC和像DGX Spark这样表现出色的边缘设备,一直到机器人、工作站和本地数据中心。
Um the world will need both closed models and open models and both closed models and open models are skyrocketing in use. um near most I would say nearly all open models run on Nvidia and the reason for that is because Nvidia's footprint around the world um is the highest and and um our our architecture is the most funible. It's everywhere. It's in PCs and edge devices like DGX Spark which is doing great all the way to robots and workstations and your on-prem data centers.
开放模型表现得非常好。我们知道封闭模型也表现得非常好。前沿实验室的销售规模正在飙升,利润率极佳,它们正在产生盈利的Token,唯一的限制是算力的数量。这对开放模型同样适用,而我们在开放模型领域的地位非常好,因为CUDA生态系统确实无处不在。
开放模型也是世界各地几乎每家AI初创企业和企业公司的基础,对它们至关重要。原因在于,只要可能,你就应该租用强大的、智能的智能,这也是为什么我们自己租用云服务,并鼓励员工尽可能多地使用云服务。
但每家大公司,肯定还有每个国家和每家初创企业,都需要构建其领域特定的、专有的AI,即它们的专有Alpha。开放模型达到前沿水平使这一切成为可能。前沿模型至关重要的一个领域是网络安全。
你可以看到,得益于前沿模型,许多网络安全公司得以建立大规模分布式、持续运行的自主网络安全防御系统。这些公司正在涌现,有一些很棒的公司,没有开放模型它们无法做到这一点。因此,开放模型不仅极其成功,终于达到了前沿水平,而且对美国经济和世界经济都至关重要,对公司构建自己的专有AI也至关重要。
没有其中之一,你无法做到。两者都将取得非凡的成功。
Um, open models are doing incredibly well. You know, closed models we we know are doing incredibly well. Uh, the Frontier Labs their scales their sales are skyrocketing. Their margins are fantastic. They're they're generating profitable tokens. They're only limited by the amount of compute. That is equally true for open models and our position in open models is very good you know because the CUDA ecosystem is literally everywhere. The open model open models are also foundational to just about every AI startup and every enterprise company around the world. It's vital to them. And the reason for that is because you should rent intelligence, strong intelligence, smart intelligence wherever you can, which is the reason why, you know, we rent it and I encourage my employees to use the cloud services as much as as they can. But every every major company and every surely every country and every startup needs to build their domain specific their proprietary proprietary AI their proprietary alpha and and the open models reaching frontier levels has made it possible has enabled them to all do that. One of the areas where frontier models is vital is cyber security. You see the number of cyber security companies that are enabled by frontier models so that they could have distributed massively distributed continuously running autonomous cyber security systems to defend. Um it those companies are emerging there's some amazing companies they couldn't do it without open models. And so open models is is both uh incredibly successful and has finally reached the frontier, but it's also vital to the American economy. It's vital to the world economy. It's vital to companies to build their own proprietary AI. You can't do it without one or the other. Both are going to be extraordinarily successful.
最后,正如你所知,在所有AI模型的市场足迹方面,我想我们是唯一能够运行每一个前沿模型的平台,无论它是封闭的还是开放的,我相当确定这一点。大多数模型都是在NVIDIA上构建的,因此它们在NVIDIA上运行得很好。
所以,只要模型成功,我们就感到高兴。我非常开心,封闭和开放模型都将取得成功,并且它们同时在推动我们的销售。
And and lastly, uh, as you know, uh, our market footprint of of all AI models, we're the only, I think we're the only platform, I'm fairly certain, we're the only platform that runs every Frontier model and whether it's closed or open. Um, most of them were built on Nvidia. And so they run they run great on Nvidia and and so we're delighted um by by any model succeeding so long as models succeed. I'm very happy and and both closed and open models are going to succeed and they're they're both simultaneously driving our sales.
我很感激这一点。这将进一步发生拐点。如今,绝大多数 AI 都是由人类提示驱动的。我相信就在上个月,这一情况已经发生了转变。现在大多数 AI 都是自主代理(agentic)。但在未来,每家公司都将拥有大量的智能体。
你知道,我们大约有 40,000 名员工。在未来,我们将拥有 400,000 个智能体,甚至 400 万个智能体。这些智能体将持续运行。它们在后台运行。如果你认识任何构建边缘个人 AI 智能体的人,并且他们在类似 DGX Spark 的设备上运行它——我知道很多人都在 DGX 工作站上运行它,这是我们打造的令人惊叹的工作站,你可以从戴尔购买——它们真的非常出色。
在 DGX 工作站上运行的这些 AI 智能体是全天候 24/7 运行的,因为你总有事情让它们去做。因此,当世界完全转向自主代理系统时,你将拥有持续运行的智能体,与其他持续运行的智能体协作。
它们将在后台工作,改善你的公司,改善你的生活。在很多方面,我们现在有点处于递归状态。你可能会说这是粗粒度的。但每次你运行一个智能体,它都会反思下次如何做得更好。它会更新技能文件。
因此,技能文档、Markdown 文件会在每一次运行结束时得到更新。所以下次运行时,它会变得更好。这是一种……你知道的,一种松散的、粗粒度的自我改进。你会在所有地方、所有时间、所有方式中看到这一点。
因此在很多方面,对于许多任务,我们可以说我们已经实现了通用人工智能(AGI)。我认为所有这些里程碑,以及那些……你知道的,它们在这个阶段已经毫无意义了。我认为对行业来说最重要的三件事是:第一,AI 现在正在从事生产性和有用的工作。
第二,AI 正在生成有利润的 Token。第三,如果我们拥有更多的算力,我们就能生成更多有利润的 Token,从而为所有服务带来更多利润。这正是我们目前所处的阶段,这也是为什么每个人都在全力投入的原因。
>> I appreciate that. It's going to inflect further. Um today the vast majority of AI is prompted by people. I believe that this last month it has crossed. Um most AI are now agentic. But in the future in the future every company will have a whole bunch of agents. You know we have we have 40,000 employees roughly. In the future we'll have 400,000 agents, four million agents. And those agents are running continuously. They're running in the background. Um, if you have anybody who builds, if you know anybody who builds edge, you know, personal AI agents and they run it on their like a DGX Spark and you know, I I know a lot of people who who uh run it on DGX stations, this incredible workstation that that we've built and you can buy it from Dell and and they're they're they're incredible. And these AI agents running on a a DGX station runs 24/7 because you got stuff for that to do for it to do all the time. And so the when when the world goes to agentic fully agentic agentic systems, you're going to have agents running all the time, working with other agents running all the time. And those will be working in the background improving your company, you know, improving your lives. Um, in a lot of ways, we're we're kind of recursive at this point at this point. And you could argue it's it's coarse grained. Um, but every time you run through an agent, it it reflects on how it could do a better job next time. And it updates the skill file. And so the skills document, the markdown is updated at the end of every single one of them. And so next time you run it, it's going to get better. It's a it's a clo it's a, you know, kind of a loosely coarse grain self-improvement. And so you see that all all over all all always all ways. and and so in a lot of ways and for many for many tasks um we could say that we've already achieved AGI. I think all of that those milestones and all those you know they're kind of senseless at this point. I think the most important thing that that that matters for the industry is that one AI is now doing productive and useful work. Two, AI is generating profitable tokens. And three, if we had more compute, we could generate more profitable tokens, which results in more profit for all of the services. This is the exact phase where we're at, which is the reason why everybody's leaning in.
我本可以说点有趣的话,但我就不说了。去年最有趣的事情之一就是去弄清楚我去哪里吃晚饭,和谁一起吃晚饭,然后第二天他们的股价就会翻倍。我认为答案是,我们的整个供应链都面临挑战,每个人都在全力以赴。
更多的产能一直在上线,这是今年将要发生的优势之一。它不会在某一个时间点突然全部上线,而是每天都会增加。良率将会提高。我们将致力于提高良率。我们将努力与每一个供应商合作。所以,这甚至还没到明年,我们还有 lots and lots of time 每天努力工作。
所以在这一刻,我们有 70% 的供应能力。我们的供应量超过 70%,但大约是 70%。我们的需求远高于此,我们必须努力工作,否则我们会让客户失望。我们不喜欢让客户失望,我们希望为他们努力工作,所以我需要整个供应链的帮助来支持我。
但他们都知道,我告诉你们的关于明年需求的预测,与我告诉他们的一致。每个人都完全在同一页面上,我试图尽可能透明,因为我们谈论的是巨大的数字。
>> There's fun something funny I could say but I'm going to just not um the the uh you know last year one of the funnest things to do is just to go figure out where I go for dinner and and who I have dinner with and um their their stock price doubles the next day. Um I I I think the the answer is is um our entire supply chain is challenged and it's everybody everybody is really running flat out. Um and more capacity is coming online all the time which is one of the advantages what's going to happen this year. It's not going to come online in just you know an instance in time but it's going to come online every every day. Yields are going to get improved. Uh we're going to be doing yield improvement. uh we're going to work hard on on um working with every one of our suppliers, you know, and so we're just we have a it's not even next year yet and so we've got lots and lots of time work hard every day and so um at this moment uh we have supply for 70%. We have we have more supply than 70% but about 70%. our demand is much higher than that and we've got to go work hard or you know we're we're going to be uh disappointing customers and and um uh we we like not to disappoint our customers and we like to work hard for them and so I've got I'm going to need the help of the entire supply chain to help me out here. But they all know that um uh what what I'm telling you about about our needs for next year uh is exactly consistent with what I've told them. Um everybody's on the exact same song sheet song sheet and I'm trying to be as as transparent as we can because we're talking about big numbers.
您的最后一个问题来自 Wells Fargo 的 Aaron Rakers。您的线路已接通。是的,谢谢你接受提问。我想回到吉瓦的问题,即从 25 到 40 的增长,也许试着理解一下……
你知道,我认为 Jensen 在一些最近的会议上说过,这会进一步扩展。所以当我们思考超越 Vera Rubin 的路径时,比如 Vera Rubin Ultra 等等,我们应该真正概念化为 400 亿变成 600 亿、800 亿吗?
那么这个问题背后的问题是,我们该如何看待你们的能力、规模、部署容量?它是线性函数吗,还是有什么东西解锁了你们在展望 2027 财年时满足更多需求的能力?
>> Your final question comes from the line of Aaron Rakers with Wales Fargo. Your line is open. Yeah, thanks uh for taking the question. I want to go back to the the gigawatts the 25 to 40 uh and maybe try and understand like you know I think Jensen you said at some recent conferences that you know that's going to further scale so you know as we think about the path even beyond ver rubin we think about ver rubin ultra and so on so forth like should we really conceptualize like 40 billion goes to 60 billion 80 billion and then you know I guess you know underneath of that question is how do we kind of think about your ability the the scale, the capacity deployments, you know, is it is it a linear function or is there something that, you know, kind of unlocks your ability to supply more demand as we look through fiscal 27?
好问题。28,抱歉。是的,好问题。好问题。非常简单。我们的目标是在一块土地上放置尽可能多的算力吗?我们的目标是将更多的算力放入一吉瓦或更少的电力中吗?显然,我们希望得到光速般的答案,完美的答案实际上是每吉瓦无限大。
如果我们真的能将一万亿美元的算力放入一吉瓦电力和一块土地的外壳中,那将是一个极好的结果,所以方向上是朝着这个方向的。我们在摩尔定律时代开始了通用计算的世界。我们可能……你知道,选一个你喜欢的数字,但我会说是大约 50 亿或 30 亿美元每吉瓦的算力,用于通用计算,然后最终 Hopper 达到了 18。
现在 Grace Blackwell 是 25。下一个 Vera Rubin 是 40,之后会更高,这非常棒。这对行业来说太棒了。对客户来说太棒了。只要其生产力持续增长,耐用性和可互换性持续增长,人们就乐于投资于能产生收入、产生利润并帮助他们极快收回回报的资产。
我是说,我前几天听说投资资本回报率现在不到一年,
>> Great question. >> 28, sorry. >> Yeah, great question. Great question. Um, and very simple. Is our goal to put as much compute on a plot of land? Is our goal to put more compute into one gigawatt or less? And so obviously we would like the you know the speed of light answer the perfect answer is actually infinity per gigawatt and and so if we could literally get a trillion dollars of compute into one gigawatt and one piece of land power shell it would be a fantastic outcome and so the answer is directionally in that direction. Uh we started we started in the world of general purpose computing during Moors law. Uh we were probably you know pick your favorite number but I'm going to go with something like five billion3 billion per gigawatt of compute uh with with general purpose computing and and then eventually with hopper it was 18. Uh now Grace Blackwell is 25. Next Vera Rubin is 40 and after that it's going to be higher and that's excellent. That's fantastic for the industry. It's fantastic for customers. So long as the productivity of it continues to grow, the durability and the fungeability continues to grow. Then people are happy to invest uh in in assets that generates revenues, generates profits and helps them recoup their return so incredibly fast. I mean, I heard the other day that return on investment capital is now less than a year,
非常简单。我们的目标是在一块土地上放置尽可能多的算力吗?我们的目标是将更多的算力放入一吉瓦或更少的电力中吗?显然,我们希望得到光速般的答案,完美的答案实际上是每吉瓦无限大。如果我们真的能将一万亿美元的算力放入一吉瓦电力和一块土地的外壳中,那将是一个极好的结果,所以方向上是朝着这个方向的。
Um, and very simple. Is our goal to put as much compute on a plot of land? Is our goal to put more compute into one gigawatt or less? And so obviously we would like the you know the speed of light answer the perfect answer is actually infinity per gigawatt and and so if we could literally get a trillion dollars of compute into one gigawatt and one piece of land power shell it would be a fantastic outcome and so the answer is directionally in that direction.
我们在摩尔定律时代开始了通用计算的世界。我们可能……你知道,选一个你喜欢的数字,但我会说是大约 50 亿或 30 亿美元每吉瓦的算力,用于通用计算,然后最终 Hopper 达到了 18。
现在 Grace Blackwell 是 25。下一个 Vera Rubin 是 40,之后会更高,这非常棒。这对行业来说太棒了。对客户来说太棒了。只要其生产力持续增长,耐用性和可互换性持续增长,人们就乐于投资于能产生收入、产生利润并帮助他们极快收回回报的资产。
Uh we started we started in the world of general purpose computing during Moors law. Uh we were probably you know pick your favorite number but I'm going to go with something like five billion3 billion per gigawatt of compute uh with with general purpose computing and and then eventually with hopper it was 18. Uh now Grace Blackwell is 25. Next Vera Rubin is 40 and after that it's going to be higher and that's excellent. That's fantastic for the industry. It's fantastic for customers. So long as the productivity of it continues to grow, the durability and the fungeability continues to grow. Then people are happy to invest uh in in assets that generates revenues, generates profits and helps them recoup their return so incredibly fast.
我是说,我前几天听说投资资本回报率现在不到一年,而我们谈论的是 500 亿美元的数据中心。这告诉你一些关于 MVS 技术生产力和其可租赁性的信息。
I mean, I heard the other day that return on investment capital is now less than a year, and we're talking about $50 billion data centers. And so, that tells you something about about the the uh uh the productivity of MVS technology and the rentability of it.
谢谢。在我们结束之前,请注意,Jensen 将于 9 月 10 日在旧金山举行的 Goldman Sachs Communicopia 和技术会议上参加一场炉边谈话主题演讲。他还将于 10 月 21 日在 GTC Berlin 发表主题演讲。
Thank you. Uh before we close, please note that Jensen will be participating in a keynote fireside chat at the Goldman Sachs Communicopia and Technology Conference in San Francisco on September 10th. He'll also be giving a keynote at GTC Berlin on October 21st.
这就是电话会议的情况。显然,当我们看到数据时,那可能是我们见过的来自一家公司最疯狂的数据。股价下跌了2%,但随后反转。我们曾短暂突破220美元,但在219美元处遭遇阻力,盘后上涨4%。
that was the call. Obviously, when we got the numbers, the probably craziest numbers we've ever seen from a company. Uh stock fell 2%, it has reversed. We got above 220 for a little bit, but we've been getting rejected at 219, up 4% after hours.
我认为这是我有史以来听过的最好的电话会议和视频之一。我觉得问题的回答方式真正让投资者群体建立了信心。
I thought it was one of the best calls and videos ever had. I thought the questions were answered uh in a way that really I think instilled confidence in the investor base.
嗯,我同意。我想我之前跟Chad提到过,这可能是自整个AI周期开始以及我们开始关注电话会议和承诺数据以来,我最喜欢的财报电话会议。我更想深入了解的是可见性,而Jensen——我想Colette一开始就提到了这一点。
她提到对于2028财年(即2027日历年),他们预计至少实现70%的同比增长。目前华尔街预期今年的收入约为4000亿美元。如果以70%的同比增长为基准,收入将接近6800亿美元。
分析师平均预期约为5800亿美元。所以,这相当于额外的1000亿美元。因此,我认为关于可见性的问题得到了解答。对我来说,这是最大的讨论点。
Um A I agree. think I I was mentioning Chad that this is probably my favorite earnings call since kind of this whole AI cycle started and kind of when we started uh the call and kind of saw the commitment numbers. The thing I wanted to hear more about was um visibility and Jensen I I think that was kind of the first line Colette started with. Uh she mentioned that for fiscal 2028 which is calendar year 2027 they expect at least 70% year-over-year growth. Now, Wall Street expect is expecting about 400 billion this this year in revenue. And if you put that 70% year-over-year growth baseline, you're closer to $680 billion in revenue. Analysts were expecting about 580 billion consent uh on average. So, you're you're talking about an extra 100 billion. Um so, I I think the visibility question was answered there. So, to me that was the biggest talking point.
在那之后,我只是微笑着感到高兴,因为获得了这种可见性,这是有史以来最好的财报电话会议。但真正引起我注意的第二点是,70%的增长主要是由于供应链的限制。如果你深入分析,大家都知道我对Neocloud市场非常看好。
如果供应链受限,意味着GPU将继续存在供需失衡。如果GPU持续存在需求失衡,这意味着这些Neocloud玩家将继续拥有强大的定价权。
And after that I was just smiling and happy and it was the greatest earnings call ever because we got that visibility. Uh but the second thing that really grabbed my attention was um the 70% growth was mainly because of constraints in the supply chain. So then if you trickle down, you guys know I'm extremely bullish in the Neocloud market. If you are constrained in the supply chain, that means there's going to continue to be a supply demand imbalance in GPUs. And if there's the continued demand uh imbalance in GPUs, uh that means that these Neocloud players are going to continue to have strong pricing power on their end.
所以如果有两个要点,我们可以稍后再回来讨论,但对我而言,第一是可见性问题从一开始就得到了解答;第二是如果我们继续看到这种供应限制,我预计每兆瓦的收入将继续增加。
Uh so if there's two points obviously we can come back to to me later but if two points is the visibility question was answered right off the bat and the second thing is I expect the revenue per megawatt to continue to increase if we continue to see this uh supply constraints there.
很好。非常好。我的意思是,即使当他们谈到内存时——内存是导致利润率略微下降的原因——股价并没有太大波动,因为他们解释得相当清楚,甚至提到了循环融资,也解释得很好。
Excellent. Excellent. I mean even even when they talked about the memory right the the fact that memory is the the the reason why margins are going to come down a little bit stock didn't really move that much they explained everything quite well they even mentioned circular financing they explained that quite well
是的,这是一个极好的季度,一次很好的电话会议,股价上涨,大家都很高兴。是的,他们正在做他们应该做的事情。他们也很好地解释了开源、开放前沿模型,以及无论谁获胜Nvidia都能受益的逻辑。这是一次很好的会议。
and so yeah it was yeah it was an an excellent quarter great call stock is up so everybody's happy but the yeah they are doing exactly what they should be doing they also explained it quite well open source open way frontier model how they benefit from whoever wins Nvidia wins so it was a good one
是的,我的意思是他们涵盖了主要部分。显然,Jose强调的指导方针是最大的亮点,这也是为什么股价完全扭转局面的原因。
Yeah, I mean they they covered a you know the main parts. Obviously Jose highlighting the guidance is by far the biggest point and that's why the uh stock completely turned around.
我认为在2027年第四季度,他们有可能实现2000亿美元的季度营收,因为这是他们自己的指导方针。每个季度他们都超出了自己的预期,而且超出幅度很大,每季度超出4%、5%、6%。如果把这一点结合起来,2028财年的营收可能接近7000亿,如果他们交出非常好的数字,甚至可能达到7500亿。
Um I think that there could be for real real possibility for Q4 of calendar year 2027 um of them potentially putting up a quarter of $200 billion because this is their own guidance. every single quarter they've had uh higher beats, quite large beats versus their own expectation, beating by four, five, 6% a quarter. Um so if you couple that up, this could be, you know, a fiscal year 2028 could be somewhere closer to about 700, maybe 750 if they end up putting up really really good numbers.
他们说目前仍然完全受供应限制。他们对Stacy Raskin说,如果没有供应限制,数字会高得多。因此,随着供应的增加,希望他们能找到新的解决方案和新突破,从而比过去交付更多产品。
So um they said they're completely con supply constrained right now still. uh they said to to Stacy Raskin if they were unconstrained the numbers would be much higher. So as supply comes on hopefully um they can find out new solutions new breakthroughs to end up uh shipping more than they would have in the past.
Jensen在最后强调的一点,我认为人们给予的关注不够,就是这些吉瓦级数据中心的投资回收期可以低至一年以内。而那些能够展示此类数字的公司实际上正在签署极短期承诺的交易。
One of the things that Jensen highlighted at the end there which I don't think people give nearly enough credit to is the payback period on these gigawatt data centers can be as low as under a year. And now the companies that have been able to put up those types of numbers are really signing deals for extremely short-term commitments.
现在,我认为人们也应该强调的一点是,如果Nvidia要取得这样的业绩,还有谁能从中受益?Neocloud厂商,当然还有Dell或SMCI,或者那些持续成为瓶颈的内存股票不会受益吗?
这就是为什么我们看到普遍上涨的原因,Nvidia刚刚谈到的承诺对SK Hynix、Micron以及许多其他公司都是利好。
Now, um I think a part that people should be highlighting here too is if Nvidia is going to be putting up these numbers, who else is here to benefit? The the Neoclouds that Well, Jose for sure. Jose for sure. But you know, you don't think Dell or SMCI or um a lot of the memory names that are continuously being a lot of the constraint here are not going to benefit. That's why we're seeing a lot of green candles across the board is the commitments that Nvidia just talked about is to the benefit of SKHEX to Micron to to many of these names.
虽然Nvidia是我最大的持仓,但这并不是我参与这波繁荣的唯一方式,但Jensen没有发表任何评论表明增长正在放缓。所以,明天要注意Nvidia收入和EPS的中期评级上调潮。这将很疯狂。
如果你觉得他们给出350美元、300美元的目标价令人兴奋,那就等着看从40%增长修正到70%增长的报告吧。我认为这会非常令人兴奋。这就是为什么这里现在像迪斯科舞厅一样热闹。是的,我无法更开心了。
So, um, while Nvidia is by far my biggest position, it's not the only way that I'm playing this boom, but there was not a single piece of commentary there from Jensen that spelled that this is even slowing down. So, look out tomorrow for a flurry of midterm upgrades for Nvidia's revenue in EPS. That's going to be wild. I if you thought some of the reports of them putting out $350, $300 price targets was exciting, wait till, you know, you get the revisions from 40% growth up to 70% growth. That I think is going to be quite exciting. That's why it's a disco in this room now. And um yeah, couldn't be happier.
这是一只价值300美元的股票,目前交易价格为200美元。我刚想说,如果年底前没有重大的宏观担忧……我一直认为,仅凭这家公司的规模及其增长性质,以及对其持续增长的指导,很难看到股价在年底前达到250美元。
This is a $300 stock trading at $200. I was just about to say I if we do not have any major macro concerns towards the end of the year. Uh I've been in the camp that it's hard for me to see the stock hitting 250 by end of year simply based on the nature of uh the size of the company with this type of growth and not just this type of growth but the guidance for how it's going to continue.
注意股价起飞的时候,我的一位朋友给我发短信说他没在看电话会议,问是什么让股价一飞冲天。当Jensen说——我想那是第四个问题——他有点笑了。他说:“我认为需求增长将超过100%。”
他的原话是:“我认为需求正在发生拐点。”他看到了超过100%增长的可见性,这回答了如果没有供应限制你会如何增长的问题。他说:“很多。”他说:“现在,我们只能供应其中的70%。正如Tanner提到的,那额外的30%每年可能意味着数千亿美元的收入。”
Notice when the stock took off and one of my friends text me that he wasn't watching the call what you know what what did it take to get the stock to moon. When Jensen said I think this was the fourth question he like kind of laughed about it. He was like, I think we will have demand grow more than 100%. He said that the exact quote was, "I think demand is just inflecting." Uh, and he sees visibility into more than 100% growth, which is kind of the the answer to that question of how would you grow if you weren't supply constraint. He was like, "A lot." He's like, "Right now, you know, we can only supply 70% of it. That extra 30% would be potentially hundreds of billions of dollars of revenue as Tanner is mentioning on a yearly basis."
他们本季度首次给出了年度收入指导。我的意思是,你想要的透明度层级都有。我不知道华尔街如何在年底之前将其压制在250美元以下,除非Ron Moore所说的宏观因素、债券收益率等将其压低。
They also gave annual revenue guidance for the first time this quarter. I mean, every level of transparency you wanted is there. I don't know how the street holds it under 250 going into the end of the year unless Ron Moore macro bond yields etc uh holds it down.
我的意思是,当你真正思考这个轨迹时,这不是盈利增长或收入增长的峰值。这几乎只是开始。他们未来五年不会保持三位数的增长,但看起来你还会有一年类似90%到100%的增长,或者至少80%到100%,然后才会开始放缓。
我的意思是,如果Nvidia保持平稳且仍以此速度增长,其市盈率将为12倍。所以,是的,我认为这是我们听过的Nvidia最好的电话会议之一。如果股价因此抛售,我认为会有大量买家准备入场。
I mean because when you really think about what this trajectory looks like this is not a peak for earnings growth or revenue growth. This is almost just like the beginning. Now they're not going to grow triple digits for the next five years but it looks like you've got another year of this like 90 to 100% growth or at least 80 to 100% and then it starts tapering off by then. I mean, Nvidia would be trading at 12 times if it is it's flat and it's still growing at that level. So, yeah, I think this was one of the best calls we've ever heard from Nvidia. And if the stock sells off on this, I think there's going to be a lot of buyers that get ready to come in.
Jose,当Jensen谈论供应链以及他们在生态系统上需要投入多少时,你对这句话有什么看法?关于去吃饭的那句话。是的。我只是觉得很有趣。我的意思是,但他们一直说他们会和所有人一起吃饭。
我的意思是,他们的供应链中有如此多的参与者,以至于他们将继续进行这些大规模投资。所以我不认为我有什么可说的,我只是在这里胡扯。
Jose, what did you think about this quote when Jensen was talking about the supply chain and uh how much more they have to invest in their ecosystem? The the this quote of going to dinner. Yeah. I just thought it was funny. I mean, I it's um but they continue to say it's they they go dinner with everybody. I mean they have such a there's so many players in the supply chain industry in the supply chain line for them that um they're going to continue to do these big investments. Um so I don't think I have much here to say I'm just yabbling here.
这与Karp的牛排晚餐形成了鲜明对比。有一点我觉得挺有意思:我想Jensen在开头提到,五大超大规模云服务商今年的资本支出预计为8000亿美元(2026年),而明年预计将达到1.3万亿美元。
It's a contrast of the steak dinner from uh Karp. There was something I thought was pretty interesting. Um at the beginning I think Jensen did talk about how capex for the five hyperscalers is expected to be 800 billion this year in 2026 but for next year is expected to be $1.3 trillion.
Jensen已经在某种程度上向我们透露了这些公司的资本支出走向,我确实认为Amazon将成为一个重要参与者。我们看到了那个公告。此外,Amazon和Nvidia还宣布了另一项重大合作,即Amazon正与Nvidia合作开发Envy Link Fusion,以将其86与Nvidia解决方案连接起来。
但看起来Nvidia也在租赁、授权或出租其内存存储解决方案,而Amazon实际上将成为该方案的大客户。我会对此做更多研究,但我认为从Amazon的角度来看这很有趣。
Jensen is already kind of telling us what the capex of these companies are going to go and I do think Amazon is going to be a big player. I mean we saw that announcement. There's also another big announcement that Amazon and Nvidia announced. that the Amazon is working with Nvidia on Envy Link Fusion to kind of connect their 86 with Nvidia solutions, but it seems like Nvidia is also kind of leasing out or licensing out or renting out however their memory storage solution and Amazon is actually going to be a big port uh a big customer of that. So, I'm going to do a little bit more learning on that, but I thought that was interesting from the Amazon side.
是的。关于资本支出数据,我要强调一点:高盛的一些报告称明年将达到1.4万亿,我认为很多人对此不以为然,也许他们略微高估了。但是,Nvidia拥有的可见性远超单个分析师通过联系客户所获得的——他们实际上正在向Nvidia下订单。
因此,我非常重视1.3万亿这个数字,认为它确实是即将实现的规模。顺便说一句,如果分散到TPU、Tranium、Cerebrus等领域,实际支出可能远高于此,因为Nvidia并非唯一玩家。
这就是Nvidia所看到的可见性。所以,预期中的支出规模非常庞大。
Yeah. One one thing I'll highlight about the um capex numbers, there were some Goldman Sachs reports that said it would be 1.4 trillion next year and I think many many people brush that off and maybe they were slightly high. Um but the visibility that Nvidia has way more than a single analyst that's talking to, you know, their connects, they're literally putting in orders with Nvidia. So I would put on high like high regard that that 1.3 trillion is really what's going to come in. And and by the way, it could actually be much higher than that distributed across TPU, Tranium, Cerebrus, like they're not the only player. That's the visibility that Nvidia sees. So it there's a wild amount of spend that's expected to come in.
Nvidia拥有的可见性远超单个分析师通过联系客户所获得的——他们实际上正在向Nvidia下订单。这就是Nvidia所看到的可见性。所以,预期中的支出规模非常庞大。
the visibility that Nvidia has way more than a single analyst that's talking to, you know, their connects, they're literally putting in orders with Nvidia. That's the visibility that Nvidia sees. So it there's a wild amount of spend that's expected to come in.
我当时想说,我在想那1.3万亿是否只考虑了因供应链导致的70%增长。比如,如果Jensen说“实际上我们有额外的供应,因为我们最终更快地构建了某些东西”,那么资本支出是否更接近1.4万亿?
And I I was going to say I wonder if that 1.3 trillion is taking into account only a 70% growth due to supply chain. Like I what happens if that supply chain if Jensen goes oh I actually have extra supply that we ended up building something a lot faster is that capex actually closer to that 1.4 trillion.
是的,Tanner,关于可见性的观点很好。我们知道Google说了1900亿,Amazon说了2200亿。Meta大概也会在这个范围内。Microsoft也是,但可能会比今年稍多。
因为Jensen很可能已经在收集订单了,供应链中的所有其他股票也是如此。
Yeah I I think that's a great point Tanner on on the visibility. I mean we know that Google said 190, Amazon said 220. Meta is probably gonna be that tuna range. So will Microsoft, but it's probably going to be a bit more just like it was this year. Uh because, you know, Jensen's probably collecting the orders already and so are all the other stocks in the supply chain.
我也认为正面回应循环融资问题非常重要。Colette,就像她在前五分钟里说的:“你们中有些人可能称之为循环融资。我们看法不同。”现在,会有人说你想怎么叫就怎么叫,它仍然是循环的。
但他们正面回应并明确表示“这就是我们在做的”。她非常明确地指出,这些不是Nvidia提供的贷款。这是在保护他们的资产负债表,但这对于推动AI的发展至关重要。
I also thought addressing the circular financing stuff head-on was really important. Colette, like I think this was in the first five minutes, she was like, "Some of you may call this circular financing. We see it differently." Now, you will have people that say you can call it whatever the hell you want to call it. It's still circular. But the fact that they are addressing this stuff headon and saying look this is what we're doing. She made it very explicit that these are not loans that Nvidia is giving. It's protecting their balance sheet but this is in this is important to proliferate the advance of AI.
她非常明确地指出,这些不是Nvidia提供的贷款。这是在保护他们的资产负债表,但这对于推动AI的发展至关重要。
She made it very explicit that these are not loans that Nvidia is giving. It's protecting their balance sheet but this is in this is important to proliferate the advance of AI.
Jensen给出了他几个月来一直给出的相同答案,即我们需要开源和前沿实验室两者兼有。
Jensen gave you the same answer he's been given for a couple months now which is that you need both open source and Frontier Labs.
归根结底,重要的是那些公司要取得成功,这样GPU需求才能保持强劲,至少对Nvidia而言短期内是这样。这只股票的价格低于上周二的水平。
At the end of the day, it's important that those companies win uh for GPU demand to continue to be strong, at least in the short term for Nvidia. It's like the stock, you know, is lower than where it was last Tuesday.
我认为如果纳斯达克盘后涨幅更大,Nvidia就会轻松突破225美元。
I think if the NASDAQ was up a lot more after hours, Nvidia would be, you know, crushing 225 right here.
Nvidia确实表示,由于内存短缺导致了价格通胀,但归根结底,这对内存相关股票来说并不是利空。Neoclouds表现强劲,因为Nvidia明确指出,Neoclouds将是允许它们与其分成收入的新产品的主要受益者。
now Nvidia did say like because of the memory shortage that you know that's what's causing the pricing inflation but at the end of the day that's not bearish the memory names. The Neoclouds are ripping as Nvidia explicitly mentioned that the Neoclouds will be a big beneficiary of uh this new product that allows them to kind of split the revenue with them.
我们本季度达到250美元并让我赢得与Steve赌注的可能性有多大?听着,我认为基于这些财报,250美元很快就会达到。
What's the chances that we get to 250 and I win this bet with Steve this quarter? Look, I think off the back of those earnings, I think 250 gets hit soon.
因为我知道这次的表现甚至更加出色,但这只股票有些特别之处,无论是占标普500指数的8%还是5万亿美元的市值,华尔街都不让它……也许这次它会打破这一局面。
cuz I know this one was even more exceptional, but there is something about this name, whether it's 8% of the S&P 500 or 5 trillion that the street is not letting it m maybe you're maybe this is the one that breaks it.
但我觉得我说这话的原因在于,真正的区别不仅仅是一个季度的盈利,而是因为明年的额外指引,我认为这次的评级上调将会非常显著。
But I feel like the reason why I say that really the I think the real difference is not just another quarter worth of earnings, but it's because of that additional next year guidance that really like the the upgrades I think are going to be really significant this time around.
比起Nvidia的财报,真正能让我们达到目标的是特朗普宣布停火,像是一个合法的停火或一项全面协议。感觉这家公司——我想 Jensen 大约两分钟后就会上线——至少在盘后交易中,它正在获得其应得的表现。
what would really get us there more than Nvidia earnings is Trump announcing a ceasefire, like a legit one or a deal, full-on deal. it does feel like this company, I think Jensen will be on in about two minutes, is getting what it deserves here, at least to an extent after hours.
他们没有提到 SpaceX。我有点惊讶他没有在任何事情上向 Elon 致意。考虑到 Elon 与他独家合作程度之深,我以为他会这么做。
They didn't mention SpaceX. I was kind of surprised he didn't give a nod to Elon on anything. I thought he would given how much Elon is exclusively working with him.
坦率地说,这是一个惊人的表现,你们预计 2028 财年增长约 70%,而市场原本预期约为 45%。是什么给了你们这种信心?你们究竟是如何做到的?
Frankly, blowout you expect to grow about 70% in fiscal 2028. the street was looking for roughly 45%. What gives you that confidence? And how the heck could you do it?
这并不容易,但首先,需求非常强劲,而且令人难以置信的是,需求正在加速。显然我们已经是一家非常大的公司,但能够持续增长并现在加速增长,这是相当非凡的。
Well, it's not easy, but uh let's say first of all, demand is super strong and incredibly it's accelerating. You know, obviously we're already a very large company, but to be able to grow continuously and now to accelerate our growth is pretty extraordinary.
第一点是 AI 现在是有用的。它正在做生产性工作,这些 AI 实验室生成的 token 现在是盈利的。人们愿意花大价钱使用它,因为它确实具有生产力,帮助他们做事并提高效率。因此,由于使用量的增加,他们想要生成的 token 数量也在增加;由于 AI 模型变得更加复杂,他们生成的 token 数量也在增加;而且现在因为它是盈利的,有更多客户想要使用它。
阻碍他们的是算力。这就是我们业务中正在发生的事情的一个支柱。
Number one is that AI is now useful. It's doing productive work and the tokens that are being generated by these AI labs are now profitable. People are paying good money to use it because it's really productive. It's helping them, you know, do things and be more productive and and so the amount of tokens they want to generate is increasing because of use. The amount of tokens they're generating is increasing because the AI models are more complicated. And then now because it's profitable, they have so many more customers want to use it. the thing that's holding them back is compute. And so that's literally one pillar of what's happening in our business.
在那之后,我们看到 AI 正在全球范围内被采用。每个国家都想参与其中,每个公司都想参与其中。超大规模云服务商以及我们业务的另一半包括其他所有领域:新云、主权云和企业公司。所有这些都在同时增长。
And then after that, uh we're seeing AI being adopted all over the world. Every single country wants to get involved. Every country needs to every company wants to get involved. Hyperscalers and the other half of our business is everything else. It's neoclouds and sovereign clouds and enterprise companies. And all of this is all growing at the same time.
当然,这一切都发生在我们推出 Vera Rubin(我们的下一代产品)之际。这将是我们历史上爬坡速度最快的产品,真的令人兴奋。
And this is all happening of course at a time when we're rolling out Vera Rubin, our next generation product. It's going to be the fastest ramping product in our history. It's really exciting.
NVIDIA 真正与众不同的一点在于我们是可互换的(fungible),这意味着你可以在 AI 的整个生命周期中使用 NVIDIA,从数据处理、预训练、后训练,一直到部署 AI 代理。
这是第一点。第二点,我们实际上运行着每一个模型。据我所知,我们是唯一一家运行每一个前沿模型、每一个封闭模型和每一个开放模型的公司。它建立在 Nvidia 之上,在 Nvidia 上运行。
正因为如此,我们是可互换的。你可以将这些用于所有这些不同的用例。而且因为我们拥有如此多的开发者,生态系统如此庞大,我们在世界各地都被使用。该资产是耐用的,寿命长,可互换。因此,它是可租赁的。
如今人们正以高价租用它。这就是为什么它是一种可投资的资产。
One of the things that's really different about NVIDIA is that we are funible, meaning that you can use NVIDIA across the entire life cycle of AI from data processing, pre-training, post-training, all the way to deploying the AI agents. That's number one. Number two, we literally run every single model. We're the only company that I know that runs every single frontier model, every closed model, every open model. It's built on Nvidia. It runs on Nvidia. And because of that, we're fungeable. You could use this across all these different use cases. And because we have so many developers, our ecosystem is so large and we're used all over the world. The asset is durable. It's long life. It's fungeable. And therefore, you know, it's rentable. People are renting it for great money these days. And so that's that's the reason why it's an investable asset.
这是事实。事实上,一些 CSP 已经在谈论这一点,即他们按 Nvidia 的价格购买并构建的基础设施,现在的价值比他们最初支付时更高。
It is true. In fact, uh this it's some of the CSPs have already been talking about that that that the the infrastructure that they paid for um paying Nvidia's uh prices that they built is now worth more than when they first paid for it.
原因当然是 Nvidia 的架构是软件定义的。因为 CUDA,我们的软件一直在变得更好。我们在开始时交付硬件,我们卖给你硬件,但我们不断改进底层的算法,使机器随时间推移变得越来越好。
Um and and the reason for that of course is that Nvidia's architecture is softwaredefined. Because of CUDA, our software is getting better all the time. We ship the hardware in the beginning. We we sell you the hardware, but we continuously improve the algorithms underneath so that the machinery gets better and better and better over time.
纵观历史,我想 Corey Weave 那边的 Mike 最近说过,A100 将在其九年的使用寿命内销售。真正令人难以置信的是,在这九年间,尽管硬件没有变化,我们引入并改进了各种新的算法和软件,在整个生命周期内完全免费地持续增强该基础设施。
这就是为什么硬件/基础设施似乎随时间推移变得越来越好,就像美酒一样。
So over over the history, I think um Corey Weave, Mike over at Corweave recently said that A100 is going to be sold for nine years of its life. And the thing that's really incredible is during that nine years time, even though the hardware didn't change, we improved and introduced all kinds of new algorithms and software that we continuously enhance that infrastructure completely for free over over its entire life. And so that's the reason why the hardware what the infrastructure just seems to get better and better and better over time, just like just like fine wine.
是的,我认为他们忽略了一个非常重要的点。首先,这是第一代需要数十亿美元资金支持的初创公司。上一次听说一家初创公司需要数十亿美元起步、需要数百亿美元才能盈利是什么时候?这从未发生过。
但这确实是 AI 的本质。构建 AI 的成本、部署 AI 的成本是非常资本密集型的。有几家公司,这些前沿 AI 实验室是百年一遇的公司,我们希望成为它们的投资者。我们希望支持它们,希望成为它们的合作伙伴。
当然,我们希望它们在基于我们的平台上建立生态系统,然后与我们一起扩大业务规模。因此,在早期投资它们是一个很好的机会。坦率地说,我只希望我投得更多。
Yeah, I think they're missing a very big point. First of all, um, this is the first generation of startups that needed tens of billions of dollars to get funded. When was the last time anybody heard of a startup that needed billions of dollars to get off the ground and needed tens of billions of dollars to become profitable? That just never happened. But that's really the nature of AI. The cost of building AI, the cost of deploying AI, just it's very capital intensive. And there are several companies, these Frontier AI labs that are once in a generation companies and we want to be investors in them. We want to support them. We want to be a partner to them. We would love for them to build their ecosystem on top of us, of course, and then scale up their business along with us. And so the opportunity to invest in them in the beginning was a great opportunity. Frankly, I just wish I invested more.
现在它们正在扩大规模,它们生成的 token 是盈利的,服务也是盈利的,客户数量正在惊人地增长。唯一阻碍它们的是算力。但即使在此期间,它们也不是投资级。它们没有足够的记录、资本记录或财务记录来以低成本获取或确保资本。
这正是 Nvidia 可以提供帮助的地方。我们可以支持它们,帮助它们在一切产出(生成的 token)都如此盈利的时候成长。这真的是我们可以帮助它们推动飞轮的时刻。
And now that they're scaling up, the tokens they're generating are profitable, their services are profitable, the number of customers is growing incredibly. The only thing holding them back out now is compute. But even during this time, they're not investment grade. They just don't they don't have the track record, the the capital track record, the financial track record to be able to capture or secure uh capital at a low cost. And this is where Nvidia could be helpful. we could be supportive of them to help them grow at a time when everything they make, their tokens generated are so profitable. This is really the time when we can help them with their flywheel.
就我而言,这是有史以来最好的投资之一。这是一个百年一遇的技术世代机遇。最后,由于 Nvidia 架构的性质,因为它是可互换且耐用的,对我们的风险仍然很低。在最坏的情况下,我们只是将其用于另一个客户的另一个用例。
And so, as far as I'm concerned, this is one of the best investments ever. It's a once in a generation, once in a technology generation opportunity. And then this lastly, the risk for us because of the nature of Nvidia's architecture because it's fungeable and it's durable. the risk to us is still in the worst case scenario, we'll just use it for another customer in another use case.
所以,我想对于回售(buybacks)来说,我们对此是经过深思熟虑的。我们保持纪律性,并在这些非凡的公司变得盈利时支持它们。正如我们所知,希望它们很快将成为上市公司,人们将有机会看到我们所看到的,以及我们为何对它们如此兴奋。总之,这是一项非常好的投资,我认为风险很低。
And so, um, I think the backs stop is is, um, uh, we're thoughtful about it. We're disciplined about it and we're supporting extraordinary companies as they're becoming profitable and as we know, uh, you know, there hopefully they'll be soon there'll be there'll be public companies and people will all get the opportunity to see, you know, what we see and why we're so excited about them. And but anyways, this this is a really great investment and I think the risk is is low.
Jim,我对这种情况没问题。有那么多 XPU 被宣布,而且如我们所知,做我们做的事情并不容易。我们已经这样做了 33 年,所以很多项目开始了,也有很多项目被取消。我们在这里是为了支持我们的合作伙伴,我们将打造世界上最好的技术。
我对此充满信心。我们将成为他们拥有的最高效的基础设施。我对此充满信心。我们拥有供应链和技术规模,成为他们最大的供应商。我对此充满信心。
You know, I'm okay with it, Jim. There's so many XPUs that are being announced and as we know, it's not easy doing what we do. We've been doing this for 33 years and so lots of projects get started, a lots of projects get gets cancelled. Um, we're we're here we're here to support our partners and and um we're going to build the world's best technology. I have every confidence in that. Uh, we're going to be the most productive infrastructure that they have. I have every confidence in that. Um, we have the supply chain and the technology scale to be their largest supplier. I have every confidence in that.
所以,我不必把任何事往心里去,因为我对我们能交付的东西非常有信心。看看所有的 XPU 公告和所有已宣布的初创公司。然而今天,Nvidia 正在提高我们在 AI 市场的市场份额。
我们的增长正在加速。我们的技术领先地位正在扩大。所以我对所有的竞争感到非常从容。
And so, you know, I I don't I don't have to take anything personally because I've got so much confidence in what we we're able to deliver. And look at look at all of the XPU announcements and all the startups that have been announced. And yet today, Nvidia is increasing our market share of the AI market. We're our growth is accelerating. Our technology leadership is extending. And so I'm very comfortable with all the competition.
他们将购买 200 万块 GPU,购买数百万个 CPU,并将他们的机器人车队建立在 Nvidia 的物理 AI 系统上。他们将在 Bedrock 和 Sage Maker 上托管 Nvidia 的 Neotron 开放模型。是的。所以,这将是一个伟大的合作关系。
They're going to buy 2 million GPUs. They're going to buy millions of CPUs and they're going to uh build their robotics fleet on Nvidia's physical AI systems. They're going to host Nvidia's Neotron open models on Bedrock and Sage Maker. Yeah. So, this is going to be a great partnership.
人们必须意识到,Nvidia是唯一一个作为全栈AI工厂的计算平台。我们是唯一一个存在于所有云端、本地部署、边缘端以及主权AI云和新式云中的计算平台。我们是唯一以这种方式无处不在的平台。正因如此,我们吸引了全球所有的AI初创公司。
Um, you know, I I think it's just really important that people realize that Nvidia is the only computing platform that is a full stack AI factory. We're the only computing platform that is in every single cloud on prem at the edge and sovereign sovereign AI clouds and neo clouds. We're the only platform that's in that way that's everywhere. And because of that, we attract all of the world's AI startups.
在过去六个月里,4000亿美元的 venture capital 因AI而流入初创企业。这是一次一代人仅有一次的技术平台转型。每个人都想参与其中。这4000亿美元投资于AI初创企业,它们可能都在使用Nvidia。
因此,如果任何云服务商想要吸引这些AI初创企业,在其云中拥有Nvidia将使其云服务更具吸引力。
In this last six months, $400 billion dollars of venture capital went into startups because of AI. This is a once in a generation technology platform shift. Everybody wants to be part of it. $400 billion dollars of investment into AI AI startups and all of them are probably using Nvidia. And so if any of the clouds would like to attract any of those AI startups, having Nvidia in their cloud is going to make make that their clouds much more attractive.
所以,无论你怎么看——无论是拥有最好的技术、最高效的技术还是最具盈利能力的技术——在每一种情况下,Nvidia都是你的绝佳合作伙伴。
And so I and however you think about it, whether we have the best technology, the most productive technology, the most rentable technology, you know, in every single case, Nvidia is a great partner of yours.
你们的股价目前约为28倍市盈率的16倍,这在我看来简直荒谬。是时候让回购规模远大于剩余的约985亿美元了吗?为什么不将其翻倍?为什么不效仿Luca Mistri的做法?他是一位非常出色的CFO。
你们拥有一位非常出色的CFO Colette Kress。与她商量一下,制定一个更符合你们股价低廉程度的数字。这是你们所讨论的所有事项中最佳的投资选择。
Yours is selling arguably at 16 times 28 earnings. That seems ridiculous to me. Is it time to make that buyback much bigger than the roughly $98.5 billion left to buy? Why not double that? Why not do what Luca Mistri did? He's such a great CFO. You have such a great CFO, Colette Crest. Huddle with her. you know, just huddle with her and come up with a number more befitting of how of how cheap your stock is. Best investment of all these things you're talking about.
为什么不效仿Luca Mistri的做法?他是一位非常出色的CFO。你们拥有一位非常出色的CFO Colette Kress。与她商量一下,制定一个更符合你们股价低廉程度的数字。这是你们所讨论的所有事项中最佳的投资选择。
Why not do what Luca Mistri did? He's such a great CFO. You have such a great CFO, Colette Crest. Huddle with her. you know, just huddle with her and come up with a number more befitting of how of how cheap your stock is. Best investment of all these things you're talking about.
我们将向股东返还现金。我们将回购股票,并回购扣除战略和运营所需资金后的所有多余现金。而且,明年我们将产生比今年多得多的自由现金流。
We we are going to I appreciate that. Um we are going to uh uh return cash to our shareholders. We're going to buy back stock um and buy back stock uh all the excess cash net of what we need for strategy and operations. And we are going to generate a lot more free cash flow next year than this year.
此外,今年我们有几项非常大的投资,而这些对AI实验室的大额投资不会重演。我投资这些前沿AI实验室的机会不会再有了。原因是我预计它们将上市。因此,我们已投入的资金将产生巨大的回报。
但我怀疑自己是否还有机会进行更多投资。所以明年我们将拥有大量的自由现金流。上个季度我们回购了60%,未来我们将增加这一比例。
Furthermore, furthermore, um, this year we have several very large investments and those large investments in the AI labs are not going to repeat. You know, the opportunity for me to invest in these frontier AI labs is not going to happen again. And the reason for that is because I expect them to go public. And so our the money we've invested is going to get is going to generate tremendous returns. Um, but I doubt that I'll have the opportunity to invest more. And so next year we're going to have tremendous amount of free cash flow. Uh we this last quarter bought back 60%. And we're going to increase that uh going forward.
我认为我们的看法一致。回购Nvidia股票是一个巨大的机会。
So so I I think uh I think we're we're we feel the same way. Um buying back Nvidia stock is a tremendous opportunity,
市场上最便宜的资产。
cheapest asset out there.
我觉得每一个问题的回答都与财报电话会议的内容一致。Jensen这里的沟通真的非常好。关于用水、电力以及环境方面的问题是真实的吗?这在多大程度上是Nvidia的问题,而不是像Verdive那样的问题?你明白我的意思吗?
I mean, I thought the answers to every single one of those questions was in line with the earnings call. Just really, really good communication from Jensen here. Was the for for real the question around um water use and and power and the more environmental questions. How much is that an Nvidia question versus like a verdive question like you you know what I mean?
显然,GPU和芯片本身确实起到了一定作用,但它们在这里并不起主要作用。我只是觉得,也许Jim显然想问那个可能在人们心中的问题。
Obviously the GPU and the actual chip side does play a part but they're not playing the the major part here. I just think maybe, you know, Jim obviously wanted to ask that question that might be on people's mind.
是的,他可能是在利用这一点,因为如果是Jensen发言,那就是Jensen。这就好比如果Jensen说了什么,我就假设整个行业都会说“好吧,你说得对,我们应该这么做”。我想他们反正都会这么做。
符合他们的利益,确保所有这些噪音消失。它会消失吗?还是不会?我不知道。在美国,你们大约两个月后要有中期选举,预计噪音会显著增加。
Yeah, he's probably using because if Jensen speaks, it's it's Jensen. it's that's like if Jensen says something, then I assume the whole industry will just say, "Okay, you know, yeah, you're right. We should do it." Which I think they all do anyways. like they it's in their benefit to make sure that that all of this noise goes away which will it go away will it not I don't know in the US you guys have a midterm election later this year in two months or so expect the noise to increase significantly
我认为开场的那个问题也非常好。本质上,Jensen基本上是说每个人都在尝试做定制ASIC,但由于我们的供应链、CUDA库等因素,它们无法在规模和体量上与我们竞争。我不认为他说它们不会有可用的芯片,但这实际上不会影响Nvidia的增长轨迹。
I think I think the opening eye question was also really good I mean essentially Jensen basically said everyone's trying to do custom AS6 uh they're not going to compete at the size and scale that we are due to our supply chain, CUDA library, all this stuff. I don't think he's saying they're not going to have usable chips, but it's not really going to impact Nvidia's growth trajectory.
是的。他说,有些项目显示出良好的结果,有些则被取消。他说,我们甚至不知道这是否会进入生产阶段。每当一家公司拥有如此高的安全边际时,持有这只股票的轻松程度——我相信这对你们所有人来说都一样——这并不是那种让你夜不能寐的投机性头寸。
当你把它与其他人们非常兴奋的股票相比时,我不是来贬低这只股票的。
Yeah. He said, uh, you know, some of them show up with good results, some of them get cancelled. He's like, we don't even know if this is going to come to production. Whenever a company has this high of a margin of safety, I mean, just the the ease of holding this stock, I'm sure this goes for all of you guys, but this is not really the speculative position that causes you to not sleep well at night. I mean, whenever you start to put this up against other names that people get very excited about, and I'm not I'm not here to bash this name.
Nvidia刚刚超越了这一水平,实现了价值960亿美元的高利润收入。所以,与估值高得多的其他公司相比,就其相对于收入和利润的规模而言,这太不可思议了。这家公司非常便宜。就像Jim Kramer说的,
Nvidia just topped that doing $96 billion worth of pro highly profitable revenue. So, um I mean the size and scale versus other companies at much much higher valuations in terms of how much it is versus their revenue and versus their profit, it's just wild. This company is very cheap. Like uh Jim Kramer said,
Nvidia上涨4.3%。整个板块都从英伟达的财报中受益。黄仁勋在沟通方面以及数据表现上似乎执行得非常出色,那些数字堪称我们见过的最重大的成就之一。明天开盘时,我们将看到市场究竟有多认可这些业绩。
Nvidia up 4.3%. the entire sector benefiting from Nvidia earnings. And seems like Jensen executed communicationwise and with the numbers that were just some of the, you know, most monumental numbers we've ever seen. And tomorrow in the market open, we're going to see how much the street actually respects these numbers.
好的,感谢大家参与又一期英伟达季度财报的讨论。非常感谢,这对我意义重大。谢谢所有频道里发送超级聊天的观众。是的,我们会继续覆盖市场,也会继续跟踪英伟达。但全球数千名观众齐聚一堂,收听我们的分析和报道,这对我们所有人来说意义非凡。
这真的很特别,我们深深感激每个季度都能有机会为英伟达做这样的分析。
All right, thank you all for joining another Nvidia quarter in the books. Deeply, deeply appreciate it. means the world. Thank you everyone for all the super chats on all the channels. And yeah, we'll keep covering the markets. We'll keep covering Nvidia. But it means a lot for all of us to come together, you know, thousands of people across the world uh tuning in to our analysis and coverage. It really is special and you know we deeply appreciate the opportunity to do this every every quarter for Nvidia.
他说在等什么
他自己说在等的东西,一段话一条记录。同一件事说过几次就出现几次,我们不合并,也不判断它有没有兑现。
这个频道对 $NVDA 的历次判断
Jose Najarro Stocks 在这只股票上共 3 条判断,这里只列相邻的几条。