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亚马逊的AI驱动增长证明了其高额支出和债务的合理性,但负自由现金流和不断上升的杠杆使得看涨和看跌立场都合理。
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Baupost将其亚马逊持仓增加了20%,该持仓目前位于其投资组合的顶部,占比达16%。因此,它在该头号位置上表现强劲。

Baupost added 20% to their Amazon stake, which is right at the top of their portfolio, now occupying 16%. So, it is ripping clear in that number one spot.

但有趣的是,本季度我还想指出,我们上季度提到的买入亚马逊的Bill Ackman,实际上已经减持了。他将其亚马逊持仓减少了25%。

But, interestingly this quarter, I also want to point out that Bill Ackman, who we spoke about last quarter for buying Amazon, well, he's actually pulled back. He's reduced his Amazon stake by 25%.

所以,信号令人困惑。到底发生了什么?一个在买,一个在卖。嗯,事实是他们可能都是对的。

So, confusing signals. What the hell is going on? One buying, one selling. Well, the truth is they both might be right.

所以,记得二月份市场对约2000亿美元的2026年资本支出计划感到恐慌。该股在一周内下跌了约18%。然后,快进到七月份的Q2业绩,亚马逊并没有缩减支出。实际上,由于AWS需求增加,他们再次将其提高到2200亿美元。

So, remember back in February the market panicked over roughly 200 billion of planned 2026 CapEx. The stock dropped like 18% in a week. Then, fast forward to their Q2 results in July, Amazon didn't back off the spending. In fact, they raised it again to 220 billion off the back of increased AWS demand.

但这次市场没有恐慌。该股在财报公布后实际上上涨了约9%,因为AWS增长加速至37%,这是自2021年以来最快的增速。

But, this time the market didn't panic. The stock actually jumped about 9% on the report because AWS growth accelerated to 37%, the fastest pace since 2021.

而且,合同化的未来业务积压也膨胀至4960亿美元。所以,AI故事的需求侧现在正在他们的数字中显现。不仅仅是支出侧。

And the backlog of contracted future business also swelled to 496 billion. So, the demand side of the AI story is showing up in their numbers now. It's not just the spending side.

正因为如此,该股此后绝对飙升。但当然,这里的权衡是自由现金流现在已经真正转为负值。Simply Wall Street显示过去十二个月为-116亿美元。

And because of that, the stock has absolutely ripped since. But, of course, the trade-off here is that free cash flow has now gone properly negative. Simply Wall Street has it at -11.6 billion over the trailing 12 months.

而且亚马逊越来越多地利用债务市场来资助其正在进行的这一大规模投资阶段,包括本季度新发行的250亿美元债券。所以,你可以看到任何一方的论点,而两位投资者都没有错。

And Amazon is increasingly tapping the debt markets to fund this big investment phase that it's going through, including a fresh 25 billion-dollar bond raise this quarter. So, you can see an argument either way here without either investor being wrong.

Kliman可能看到的是37%的AWS增长、不断膨胀的积压订单,以及Simply Wall Street的贴现现金流模型,该模型显示该股被低估近39%。

Kliman may be looking at 37% AWS growth, a swelling backlog, and Simply Wall Street's discounted cash flow model, which has the stock nearly 39% undervalued.

他可能会看着这些数据决定:“你知道吗?增长比他们承担的债务更能证明其合理性。”而Ackman,他可能看到的是负自由现金流和不断上升的杠杆,并决定在经历了这一波大幅上涨之后,是否更倾向于锁定利润。

And he might be looking at that deciding, "You know what? The growth more than justifies the debt they're taking on." Whereas Ackman, he might be looking at the negative free cash flow and the rising leverage and deciding whether he'd prefer to just lock in profits after this massive run that they've been on.

所以,你可以从任何一方看待它。老实说,两种解读都不无道理。

So, you can see it either way. Honestly, neither read is unreasonable.

所以,这就是亚马逊的持仓情况。

So, that's the Amazon stake.

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亚马逊是一家优质企业,但按当前价格未能达到说话者15%的回报要求;他只在230或以下才会买入。
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如果你持有亚马逊,全球最聪明的一些投资者正在大举买入这只股票,而经营这家公司的内部人士却在套现数十亿美元。这只股票刚刚创下历史新高,随后回落,现在正处在投资者所说的“无人区”。

If you own Amazon, some of the smartest investors on the planet are loading up on this stock while the insiders who run the company are cashing out billions. The stock just hit an all-time high, pulled back, and now it's sitting in what investors are calling no man's land.

那么,谁是对的?是买入的亿万富翁,还是卖出的高管?今天,我们将给出三个看涨理由和三个看跌理由,然后我们自己来算算账,看看亚马逊到底值多少钱。

So, who's right? The billionaires buying or the executive selling? Today, we're going to have three bull cases and three bare cases, and then we're going to run the numbers ourselves and find out what Amazon is really worth.

7月下旬,亚马逊从大约250美元跌至约225美元,跌幅达10%。

In late July, Amazon dropped from around 250 to about 225. That's a drop of 10%.

市场变得紧张起来。大型科技股普遍存在焦虑,担心这些公司在人工智能上投入了多少钱,以及这些投入能否足够快地产生回报。亚马逊也卷入了这波浪潮,股价遭到猛烈抛售。

The market got nervous. There was broad anxiety across big tech about how much money that these companies are spending on AI and whether any of it was going to pay off fast enough. Amazon got caught in that wave and the stock sold off really hard.

随后亚马逊公布了财报,数据强劲。公司在营收和利润上都超出了预期。就这样,股价一路飙升,在8月3日创下284美元的历史新高。

And then Amazon announced earnings and the numbers were strong. The company beat on topline revenue and bottomline profit. And just like that, the stock ripped all the way to an all-time high of $284 on August 3rd.

但股价并未守住这一水平。在接下来的几周里,股价降温,稳定在260美元中段。在强劲的财报之外,管理层上调了支出预期,投资者开始计算这些利润中有多少将被重新投入到基础设施中。

But it didn't hold there. Over the next couple of weeks, the stock cooled off and settled into the mid260s. Alongside those strong earnings, management raised their spending outlook and investors started doing the math on how much of this profit is about to get plowed right back into infrastructure.

此外,亚马逊还宣布计划将Prime Air无人机配送扩展到近500个美国城市。

On top of that, Amazon announced plans to expand Prime Air drone delivery to nearly 500 US cities.

这提醒我们,这家公司从未停止创新,也从未停止投资。看涨者认为,亚马逊在当前价位仍有很大上涨空间,主要有三大理由。

A reminder that this company never stops innovating and never stops investing. There are three big reasons the bulls believe Amazon at these prices still has a ton of room to run.

看涨理由一:AWS(亚马逊网络服务)正在重新加速增长,人工智能收入如今已是真金白银。在最近一个季度,AWS收入同比增长37%,达到422.2亿美元。这是18个季度(即四年半)以来最快的增速。

Bull case number one, AWS, Amazon Web Services is reacelerating and the AI revenue is now real money. In the most recent quarter, AWS revenue grew 37% year-over-year to 42.2 2 billion. That is the fastest growth rate in 18 quarters. 4 and a half years.

全球最大的云平台刚刚实现了四年半以来最快的增长。

The biggest cloud platform in the world just hit its fastest growth in 4 and a half years.

而其中的人工智能部分已不再是可有可无的零头。AWS内部的生成式AI服务年化收入运行率已突破250亿美元。这不是承诺,各位,这是实实在在到手的现金。

And the AI piece of it is no longer a rounding error. Generative AI services within AWS have crossed a $25 billion annual revenue run rate. That is not a promise, guys. That is cash coming in the door.

摩根士丹利发布了一份报告,概述了一种情景:如果AWS继续保持这样的增长,到2027年底亚马逊股价可能达到每股500美元。

Morgan Stanley put out a report outlining a scenario where Amazon could hit $500 a share by the end of 2027 if AWS keeps scaling like this.

这是长期愿景的一部分,即未来十年内公司总年化收入接近1万亿美元。看涨者认为,仅云计算业务就价值亚马逊市值的一大块。

Part of a long-term vision where the company approaches $1 trillion in total annualized revenue over the next decade. The bulls say that the cloud business alone is worth a massive chunk of Amazon's market cap.

各位,你们能想象有一天亚马逊会把AWS和零售业务拆分成两家独立的公司吗?我认为这不容小觑,尤其是如果两者都占据主导地位,而它们目前并未获得应有的最大估值。

Guys, can you imagine a world in which someday Amazon would split off AWS and their retail business into just two separate businesses? I don't think that's something to be scoffed at, especially if both are dominant and they're not given the maximum value they could have.

各位,这不是分析师说的,这只是我根据自己想法做的预测。看涨理由之二:亚马逊悄然打造了全球最大的芯片业务之一,但几乎没人注意到。

Now guys, that's not what analysts are saying. I just projected that from my own thoughts. Bull case number two, Amazon has quietly built one of the biggest chip businesses in the world and barely anyone has noticed.

所以,虽然英伟达占据了所有头条,但亚马逊在幕后做了一件非常聪明的事。他们没有为别人的芯片支付溢价,而是自己制造芯片。这些芯片名为Trrenium和Inferentia,是专为亚马逊工作负载设计的定制AI芯片。

So, while Nvidia gets all the headlines, Amazon has been doing something really smart behind the scenes. Instead of paying premium prices for everybody else's chips, they've built their own. They're called Trrenium and Inferentia, custom AI chips designed inhouse specifically for Amazon's workloads.

这可不是什么小项目。亚马逊的定制芯片业务已悄然突破200亿美元的年化运行率,并实现了三位数增长。这就是为什么这很重要。当你在基础设施上花费超过2000亿美元时,自己制造芯片意味着你可以比竞争对手便宜得多。

And this isn't some tiny side project. Amazon's custom silicon business has quietly crossed a $20 billion annualized run rate with tripledigit growth. Here's why that matters. When you're spending over $200 billion on infrastructure, building your own chips means you can do it significantly cheaper than the competition.

像微软和谷歌这样的公司仍然严重依赖外部芯片制造商来扩展业务。随着时间的推移,亚马逊越来越多地自己动手,节省资金,并且更有效地增长。

Companies like Microsoft and Google still rely heavily on outside chip makers to expand their business. As time goes on, Amazon is doing more and more of it in-house, saving money, and growing much more effectively.

这意味着每个数据中心的成本更低,云服务的利润率更高,而且随着他们建设得越多,这种优势就越大。看涨者说,这是亚马逊内部隐藏的故事,大多数投资者完全忽略了。

That means lower costs per data center, better margins on cloud services, and an advantage that gets bigger the more they build. The bulls say this is the hidden story inside Amazon that most investors are completely missing.

看涨理由之三:亚马逊正在成为一家利润率高得多的公司,而且股价比你想象的要便宜。这一点让人惊讶,因为亚马逊一直以低利润率著称,但这种情况正在迅速改变,稍后我会详细说明。

Bull case number three, Amazon is becoming a much more profitable company and the stock is cheaper than you think. This is the one that surprises people because Amazon has always had a reputation for thin margins, but that is changing very quickly and I'll show you more on that later.

低利润的零售业务不再是亚马逊价值的主要驱动力。此外,零售业务本身也变得更加有利可图。在最近一个季度,AWS贡献了总营业利润的60%。

The low margin retail business is no longer the main driver of Amazon's value. In addition, that retail business is becoming much more profitable. AWS generated 60% of total operating profit in the most recent quarter.

广告业务(我认为它属于零售业务的一部分,但大多数人忽略了)增长了26%,达到198亿美元。这些是高利润的经常性收入流,完全改变了亚马逊的盈利能力。

The advertising business, which I consider part of the retail business, which most people forget about, grew 26% to 19.8 billion. These are high margin recurring revenue streams that completely change Amazon's earnings power.

这是看涨者喜欢的数学。在盈利超预期后,分析师将明年的盈利预期上调了超过47%。

And here's the math the bulls love. After the earnings beat, analysts raised their earnings estimates for next year by over 47%.

这意味着亚马逊的远期市盈率大约在21到23倍之间,对于一家营业收入增长超过40%的公司来说,这是非常适中的。看涨者说,市场仍然认为亚马逊是一家低利润率的零售商,但数字表明并非如此。

That means Amazon is trading at a forward PE of roughly 21 to 23 times earnings, which is very modest for a company that's growing operating income by over 40%. The bulls say the market still thinks of Amazon as a low margin retailer, but the numbers say otherwise.

这就是看涨的理由。如果这一切都是真的,那么亚马逊股价在262美元可能是一个严重的机会。但请记住,在我们的频道上,我们不仅仅看股价。我们需要更了解这家企业。

So that's the bull case. If all that's true, then Amazon sitting at 262 might be a serious opportunity. But remember on our channel, we don't just look at the price of the stock. We need to understand more about the business.

所以在我们讨论看跌理由之前,我想给你看一些东西,因为当你看到地球上最大的投资者刚刚对这只股票做了什么,你会明白很多。

So before we get into the bare cases, I want to show you something because when you see what the biggest investors on the planet just did with the stock, it tells you a lot.

最新的13F文件刚刚公布。这些监管文件能准确显示大资金在买卖什么。而就亚马逊而言,动向非常明显。斯坦利·邓肯·米勒,史上最伟大的交易员之一,来了个180度大转弯。今年早些时候,他将亚马逊持仓削减了71%。

人们以为他清仓了。但到了第二季度,他又回来了,大举买入,将亚马逊持股从46,000股一路增加到542,000股。

The latest 13F filings just dropped. Those are the regulatory filings that show you exactly what the big money is buying and selling. And with Amazon, the moves are very loud. Stanley Duncan Miller, one of the greatest traders of all time, did a complete 180. Earlier this year, he cut his Amazon position by 71%. People thought he was done. Then in the second quarter, he came right back and bought aggressively, growing from 46,000 shares of Amazon all the way up to 542,000 shares.

各位,这不是试探性回归。这是一个改变主意并激进行动的人,他的持仓规模增加了11倍。大卫·特尔,掌管苹果的人,将其押注扩大到500万股,价值12亿美元。亚马逊是他最大的单一持仓。他最大的仓位告诉你他的信念所在。

Guys, that's not tiptoeing back in. That's a man who changed his mind and changed it aggressively, increasing his position size by 11x. David Ter, the guy who runs Apple, expanded his bet to 5 million shares worth $1.2 billion. Amazon is his single largest holding. His biggest position that tells you where his conviction is.

塞斯·克拉林,如果你不知道这个名字,他是在世最受尊敬的价值投资者之一。他增持了625,000股,使其总持仓达到374万股,价值近9亿美元。

Seth Clarin, if you don't know that name, he is one of the most respected value investors alive. He added 625,000 shares, bringing his total position to 3.74 million shares worth nearly $900 million.

当一个像克拉曼这样的深度价值投资者买入像亚马逊这样的股票时,这必须引起你的注意。至少问问为什么。然后,Viking Global将其持仓增加了两倍多,从120万股增至370万股。

When a deep value guy like Clarman is buying a stock like Amazon, that has to get your attention. At least ask why that is. And then Viking Global more than tripled their position, going from 1.2 million shares to 3.7 million shares.

现在,并非全是买入。比尔·阿曼将其持仓从1150万股削减至860万股。但即使减持后,亚马逊仍是他最大的持仓之一。所以他没有离开,只是落袋为安了一些。

Now, it wasn't all buying. Bill Aman trimmed his position from 11 and a half million shares down to 8.6 million. But even after the trim, Amazon is still one of his top holdings. So he didn't leave, he just took some off the table.

这可能是因为他在别处找到了更好的机会。这种情况可能有很多原因。所以当你看到琼肯·米勒、特尔、克拉曼和Viking在同一季度都大举买入时,这可能不是巧合。这是信念。

And that could be because he found a better opportunity elsewhere. There are a lot of reasons why that could have happened. So when you see Junken Miller, Ter, Clarman, and Viking all buying aggressively in the same quarter, that's probably not a coincidence. That's conviction.

这并不意味着你应该盲目跟随,但它确实意味着你应该提出问题,并密切关注他们看到了什么。各位,这正是加入我们社区重要的原因。当头条新闻对亚马逊争论不休时,我们社区内的成员正在做真正的工作。

And it doesn't mean you should blindly follow, but it does mean that you should ask questions and pay very close attention to what they're seeing. And guys, this is exactly why being in our community matters. While the headlines are going back and forth on Amazon, our members inside the community are doing the real work.

现在,让我们换个角度。我要给你讲一下空头观点,因为如果你要持有亚马逊,如果你要持有任何公司,你需要知道可能出什么问题,你绝对必须了解硬币的两面。

Now, let's flip it. I'm going to give you the bare case because if you're going to own Amazon, if you're going to own any company, you need to know what could go wrong, you absolutely have to understand both sides of the coin.

空头观点第一点,支出绝对是历史性的,它摧毁了自由现金流。这是最尖锐的空头观点。亚马逊将其2026年全年资本支出指引上调至2000亿至2200亿美元之间。

Bare case number one, the spending is absolutely historic and it just destroyed free cash flow. This is the bare case with the sharpest teeth. Amazon raised its fullear 2026 capex guidance to between 200 and $220 billion.

这意味着他们正在将这笔巨额资金再投资于业务以帮助其增长。就在最近一个季度,支出飙升68%,达到542亿美元。

That means they're reinvesting that huge sum of money into the business to help it grow. In just the most recent quarter, spending skyrocketed 68% to 54.2 billion.

而这里有一个真正令人痛心的数字。过去12个月的自由现金流从正数变为负76亿美元,各位。这是负的。这是现金流出。

And here's the number that really stings. trailing 12-month free cash flow has gone from a positive number to a negative 7.6 billion, guys. That's a negative. That's cash going out.

亚马逊,一家投资者在过去几年依赖其产生现金的公司,现在又回到了过去的日子,正在烧钱。空头们说这是AI故事背后的真正风险。如果需求放缓怎么办?亚马逊将持有数千亿美元昂贵且贬值的数据中心和硬件,却无法充分利用。

Amazon, a company that investors have relied on to generate cash in the last few years, is now going back to the old days and burning right through it. The bears say that this is the real risk behind the AI story. What if demand slows down? Amazon would be stuck holding hundreds of billions in expensive depreciating data centers and hardware that it can't properly fill.

这些支出必须带来回报。而目前,账单的到来速度远快于回报的实现。这正是我们原则驱动投资的第五条原则:如果你支付了错误的价格,一个好故事也会变成糟糕的投资。你支付的价格决定了投资的成功程度。

The spending has to earn a return. And right now, the bills are coming in a lot faster than the payoff. That's exactly why our fifth tenant of principal driven investing is a great story becomes a bad investment if you pay the wrong price. The price you pay is what determines how successful an investment is.

看跌理由之二:债务在堆积,利润率开始感受到压力。为了在没有自由现金流的情况下为这一切提供资金,亚马逊不得不借钱,借了很多钱。长期债务从656亿膨胀到1190亿美元,几乎翻了一番。

Bearcase number two, the debt is piling up and the margins are starting to feel it. To fund all of this without free cash flow, Amazon has had to borrow money, a lot of money. Long-term debt has ballooned from 65.6 billion to $119 billion. That's almost double.

背负如此多的债务意味着利息支出正在攀升,而时机恰恰不对——公司同时还要应对关税上升、燃料通胀以及80个基点的外汇逆风。

And carrying that much debt means that interest expenses are climbing at exactly the wrong time when the company's also dealing with rising tariffs, fuel inflation, and an 80 basis point foreign exchange headwind.

这里有一些即使是看涨者也应该注意的事情。AWS的营业利润率实际上略有下降,从39.5%降至37.7%。现在,如果他们仍然能够以高增长率增长,即使利润率略有下降,仍然会为底线增加大量资金。

And here's something that even the bulls should pay attention to. AWS operating margins actually went down a little bit. They went from 39.5 down to 37.7%. Now, if they're still able to grow at high rates, even losing a little margin still adds a ton of money to the bottom line.

所以,是的,云业务在增长,但所有新基础设施带来的沉重折旧开始侵蚀利润率。看跌者说这是一个早期预警信号。如果利润率持续压缩而债务持续上升,盈利增长的故事就会改变,估值也会改变。

So, yes, the cloud business is growing, but the heavy depreciation from all that new infrastructure is starting to eat into the margins. The bears say that this is an early warning sign. If margins keep compressing while debt keeps rising, the earnings growth story changes and so does the valuation.

看跌理由之三:政府要来了。这不仅仅是一笔罚款。这是大多数人没有给予足够关注的看跌理由。联邦贸易委员会(FTC)与17个州的检察长一起,正在积极对亚马逊提起一项历史性的反垄断诉讼。审判正式定于2026年底开始。

Bear case number three, the government's coming. And this isn't just a fine. This is the bear case that most people aren't paying enough attention to. The FTC, the Federal Trade Commission, alongside 17 state attorneys generals, is actively pursuing a historic antirust lawsuit against Amazon. The trial is officially scheduled to begin in late 2026.

核心指控是,亚马逊对在线购物者和其平台上的独立卖家都拥有垄断权力。它既当运动员又当裁判。

The core accusation is that Amazon holds monopoly power over both online shoppers and the independent sellers on its platform. That it acts as both the player and the referee.

这里有一个每个亚马逊股东都应该知道的数字。亚马逊的抽成率——即它从第三方卖家那里抽取的履约、广告、推荐费用——已经悄然攀升至每笔销售平均的47%。几乎一半。

And here's a number that every Amazon shareholder should know. Amazon's take rate, that's the cut it extracts from thirdparty sellers for fulfillment, advertising, referrals, has quietly climbed to an average of 47% of every single sale. Almost half.

看跌者说,如果政府迫使亚马逊降低这些费用,那将摧毁帮助资助其他一切的高利润零售利润。云建设、支出、无人机项目,所有的一切。

The bears say if the government forces Amazon to lower those fees, it would decimate the high margin retail profits that help fund everything else. The cloud buildout, the spending, the drone program, all of it.

伙计们,我有一家叫Fit Active Sports的公司。曾经有一段时间,我们在亚马逊上拥有最畅销的举重手套。你猜怎么着?由于费用和亚马逊有点荒谬的规则,我们失去了那个地位。

我们仍在努力爬回来,已经好几年了。它们非常昂贵。

Guys, I've got a business called Fit Active Sports. At one point, we had the number one selling weightlifting glove on Amazon. And guess what? Because of the fees and because of Amazon's a little bit ridiculous rules, we lost that status. And we're still trying to climb back. and it's been a few years. They are very expensive.

但归根结底,我总是说,你还能去哪里开始快速销售数百万美元的产品?所以,这是一个权衡。而在某个时候,如果那47%继续增长,它将变得不可能。

But at the end of the day, I always say, where else can you go to start selling millions of dollars of product very quickly? So, there is a trade-off. And at some point, that 47% if it keeps growing, will make it not possible.

但令我惊讶的是,我们可以花4美元购买产品,在亚马逊上以20美元出售,在扣除所有开销之后,我们只赚了5%或6%的钱。

But it's amazing to me that we can buy products for $4, sell them on Amazon for 20, and after everything is left over, all the all the overhead, everything, we're making five or 6% on our money.

但这比费用更大。FTC正在寻求结构性补救措施,而不仅仅是轻轻拍一下手腕。他们正在讨论迫使亚马逊将其履约和配送网络与其电子商务商店完全分离。

But it gets bigger than fees. The FTC is chasing structural remedies, not just a slap on the wrist. They're talking about forcing Amazon to completely separate its fulfillment and delivery network from its e-commerce store.

亚马逊Prime背后的整个魔力——让2亿会员每年付费的超快速、低成本配送——依赖于亚马逊端到端控制该物流网络。

The whole magic behind Amazon Prime, the ultra fast, lowcost delivery that keeps 200 million members paying every year depends on Amazon controlling that logistics network end to end.

如果这一点被剥离,看空者表示,我们所知的 Prime 可能会从根本上被削弱。如果你认为这只是说说而已,看看亚马逊自己的法律团队在做什么。就在上周,8月14日,亚马逊悄悄恢复了其服务条款中的强制仲裁条款,剥夺了美国客户提起集体诉讼的权利。

If that gets stripped away, the bears say that Prime as we know it could fundamentally be degraded. And if you think this is just talk, look at what Amazon's own legal team is doing. Just last week on August 14th, Amazon quietly reinstated binding arbitration clauses in its terms of service, stripping US customers of the right to file class action lawsuits.

看空者认为,这是公司在为到2026年底和2027年的一波法律战做准备。在联邦法院今年早些时候对谷歌的搜索和广告技术垄断作出裁决后,这一威胁现在感觉更加真实。

The Bears see that as a company bracing for a wave of legal battles through the end of 2026 and into 2027. This threat feels a lot more real now after the federal rulings against Google's search and adtech monopoly earlier this year.

看空者表示,这还没有被计入股价。如果政府胜诉,可能会从根本上改变亚马逊作为一家企业的面貌。所以问题是,谁是对的?看多者、看空者,还是两者的某种结合?我们的下一步是结合故事和数字,自己进行分析。

The bears say this isn't priced into the stock. And if the government wins, it could fundamentally change what Amazon looks like as a business. So the question is, who's right? The bulls, the bears, or some combination of both? Our next step is to analyze it ourselves by combining the story and the numbers together.

现在,各位,在我们深入分析亚马逊的数字之前,我想提醒大家,永远不要从字面上理解我们的标题和缩略图。我们从来不是来提供股票建议的。

Now guys, really quick before we dive into the numbers on Amazon, I want to remind everybody, never take our title and thumbnail literally. We're never here to give a stock tip.

我们在这里是为了说明价格和价值是两回事。所以,让我们在我们的软件中调出亚马逊,我每天都喜欢使用这个软件。所以,各位,当人们谈论一家公司的价格时,他们看的是股价。我看的是市值,即股价乘以流通股数。它是2.85万亿美元。

We're here to teach that price and value are two different things. So, let's pull up Amazon in our software, which I love to use on a daily basis. So, guys, when people talk about a price of a company, they go to the stock price. I go to the market cap, which is the price of the stock multiplied by the number of shares outstanding. It is 2.85 trillion.

接下来我要看的是企业价值。这两者之间的差异,这里是3.27万亿对2.85万亿,我们称之为4000亿美元。这个差异基本上就是他们的债务。而在过去几年里,这个数字增长了很多。

The next thing I do is I go to that enterprise value. The difference between these two right here, it's 3.27 27 versus 2.85, let's call it $400 billion. That difference is essentially their debt. And that has grown a lot in the last few years.

接下来我会将其与自由现金流进行比较。各位,在过去12个月里,他们的自由现金流实际上是负120亿美元。所以,这里有很多债务。

The next thing I'll do is compare it to its free cash flow. Guys, in the last 12 months, their free cash flow is actually negative 12 billion. So, there's a lot of debt here.

现在,让我们看看他们的自由现金流历史。我们怎么做呢?我们进入我们的财务数据,进入现金流量表。他们有4000亿美元的债务。我在我们所有的财务数据中添加了这一行,以查看自由现金流,各位。

这是很多债务。他们最好的一年自由现金流是330亿美元。所以,即使是4000亿,那也是他们自由现金流的13倍。

Now, let's go to their history of free cash flow. How do we do that? We go to our financials. We go to the cash flow statement. They have $400 billion in debt. I added this line to all our financials to see the free cash flow, guys. It's a lot of debt. Their best year ever was $33 billion in free cash flow. So, even at 400 billion, that's 13 times their free cash flow.

现在,如果他们投入所有这些资金,因为看看资本支出是如何飙升的。10年前,亚马逊的资本支出是80亿美元。他们在过去12个月里刚刚完成了1730亿美元,而且预计还会更高,正如我之前所说。

Now, if they're investing all this money, because look at the capital expenditures and how they've skyrocketed. 10 years ago, Amazon did 8 billion in capital expenditures. They just did 173 billion in the last 12 months, and it's expected to go up even higher. as I said earlier.

那么,他们需要产生多少资金?他们还能承担多少债务而最终不会出问题?这才是人们真正担心的空头情形。如果投资没有回报,他们就会留下这座债务大山。

So, how much money would they have to generate? How much more debt can they take on where it ends up being okay? That's the real bare case that people are asking. If it doesn't pay off, they're left with this mountain of debt.

有道理。让我们回到这些指标上来,各位。接下来我看的是资本回报率。5年是8.7,1年是10.5。所以,情况正在好转,我喜欢这一点。

Fair enough. Let's go back to the metrics here, guys. Next thing I do is I look at the return on capital. 5 years is 8.7, one year is 10.5. So, it's getting better, which I love.

我在这里还喜欢的一点是,看看利润率。10年平均是7.6。5年

Another thing I love here, look at the profit margin. 10-year average is 7.6. 5-year

如果政府胜诉,可能会从根本上改变亚马逊作为一家企业的面貌。

And if the government wins, it could fundamentally change what Amazon looks like as a business.

所以,让我们在我们的软件中调出亚马逊,我每天都喜欢使用这个软件。

So, let's pull up Amazon in our software, which I love to use on a daily basis.

而这个毛利润,即他们每多卖出一个单位所获得的利润,持续增长。为什么?因为AWS非常赚钱,随着他们将更多销售转向AWS,这个数字将继续走高。

And this gross profit, which is the profit on every single extra unit they sell, keeps growing. Why? because AWS is so profitable that as they grow more of their sales into AWS, that's going to keep going higher.

而且,各位,他们的营收增长依然强劲。过去10年年均增长20.5%,过去5年12%,过去3年13%。尽管他们在过去5年进行了收购,金额达270亿,但这仅占他们过去5年整个当前市值的1%。所以,我并不那么担心这一点。

And guys, they still have great revenue growth. 20 and a half% a year for the last 10, 12% for the last 5, 13% for the last three. And even though they've made acquisitions over the last 5 years, 27 billion, it's only 1% of their entire current market cap over the last 5 years. So, I'm not as worried about that.

让我们来看看这八大支柱。我好奇这会看起来有多糟糕。我甚至不在乎。比如,这里全是X。但是,各位,我们都知道,亚马逊远不止这些。这是我10年前艰难学到的。亚马逊远不止这些短期数字。

他们在打造一个真正的业务,他们让每个从他们那里购买的人的生活变得更轻松。让我们快速查看一下分析师的预估。

Let's go take a look at the eight pillars. I wonder how ugly this is going to look. Don't even care. Like, these are all X's here. But guys, as we all know, there is so much more to Amazon. This is something I learned the hard way 10 years ago. There's so much more to Amazon than just these short-term numbers. They are making a real business, and they they they make life easier for everybody that buys from them. Let's go check out the analyst estimates real quick.

所以,在我们弄清楚我认为这只股票值多少钱之前,分析师的预估,我实际上对此感到惊讶。今年每股9美元,基本上在未来七年内仅翻倍。这意味着未来七年每股收益增长率仅为10%。对我来说有点惊讶。

再看看营收。营收也在翻倍。所以这里让我困惑的是,它从8400亿翻倍到1.66万亿。所以他们的营收将翻倍。他们将有高毛利率。他们的利润率不断提高,但分析师认为他们的利润只会随着营收翻倍而翻倍。

我本以为如果像这样的公司营收翻倍,利润应该增长3倍。我对此有点困惑。但这些都是分析师。让我们看看我们认为如何。

So, before we go figure out what the stock is worth to me, the analyst estimates, I'm actually surprised by this. $9 per share this year only basically doubling over the next seven years. That's only 10% earnings per share growth in the next seven years. Kind of surprising to me. And look at revenue. Revenue also doubling. So here's what confuses me. It doubles from 840 billion to 1.66 trillion. So they're going to double their revenue. They're going to have high gross margin. Their profit margin keeps getting higher, but analy analysts think they're only going to double their profit along with double of revenue. I would have thought profit if revenue doubled in a company like this, I would have thought profit should go up 3x. I'm a little confused by that. But these are analysts. Let's see uh what we think.

各位,提醒一下,如果你在我们的社区里,请记住我们提取的那些看涨和看跌案例,我们是从我们软件中的AI工具获得的。你只需进入这里,它就会为你弹出。你可以问它任何问题。比如,“亚马逊或任何公司的前三大看涨案例和看跌案例是什么?”它就会为你输出。

And guys, as a reminder, if you're in our community, just remember those bull and bear cases we pulled up, we got from our AI tool in our software. You just go in here, it just pops up for you. You're able to ask it any question. Say, "What are the top three bull cases and bare cases for Amazon or any company?" And it'll spit it out for you.

所以现在,我们来到了股票分析器工具。各位,这就是我们把故事和数字放在一起的地方。我总是告诉人们,尽早做这件事,这样你就不会浪费时间在那些与你的价值相差甚远的公司上。各位,我做了一个10年分析。

第一个问题,我假设未来10年的营收增长率是多少?各位,我做了4%、8%和12%。可能有点保守。毕竟,分析师预计未来七年每年增长10%。所以,这可能过于保守,但我对此可以接受。

So now, here we are at the stock analyzer tool. Now guys, this is where we put the story and the numbers together. And I always tell people, do this early on so you don't waste time on companies that are so far away from your value. Guys, I did a 10-year analysis. The very first question, what's the revenue growth I'm going to assume for the next 10 years? Guys, I did 4, 8, and 12%. Might be a little conservative. After all, analysts were expecting 10% a year for the next seven. So, this might be too conservative, but I'm okay with that.

接下来,利润率。我做了8%、12%和16%。现在,有趣的是,他们去年做到了17.5%。我这里写的是16%。所以,你知道吗?我愿意稍微提高一点。让我们做12%、16%和20%。对于一家毛利率50%且不断增长的公司,我对此可以接受。

Next, profit margin. I did 8, 12, and 16. Now, here's what's interesting. They did 17.5% last year. I have 16% here. So, you know what? I'm willing to bump this a little bit. Let's do 12, 16, and 20. With a company that's 50% gross margins and growing, I'm okay with this.

接下来,10年后我会给这家企业多少市盈率或自由现金流价格?这不是今天的市盈率是多少,平均会是多少?而是10年后我会给多少?各位,亚马逊是一家拥有不可思议护城河的企业。这个词被过度使用了,但显然我们都崇拜、喜爱并使用亚马逊。

接下来,他们的资本回报率正在提高,而且他们每年都越来越多地融入我们的生活。我实际上认为这可能低了。我设了20、23和26。如果有人设得更高,我能理解。

Next, what PE or price of free cash flow would I sign to this business 10 years from now? This isn't what's the PE today, what's the average going to be? It's what would I assign 10 years from now? Guys, Amazon is an incredible moat business. That that term is overused, but clearly we all adore and love Amazon and use it. Next, their returns on capital are getting better and they're ingratiating our lives more and more every single year. I actually think this might be low. I put 20, 23, and 26. I could understand if somebody went higher than that.

然后最后,期望回报率。各位,我总是设,我将开始设9.5%,因为我总是说9%到10%。我将开始设9.5%。因为这基本上就是历史上的市场回报率。现在,如果你要买一只个股,不要设市场回报率。

你必须设一个更高的数字。但我不这样做的原因是每个人的数字都不同,取决于你的生活状况、你对亚马逊的了解以及你的风险承受能力。所以我要设9.5%。

And then finally, desired return. Guys, I always put in I'm going to start putting in 9 and a half% because I always say 9 to 10%. I'm going to start putting in 9 and a half%. Because that's basically the market return in history. Now, if you're going to buy an individual company, don't put in the market return. You got to put a higher number in. But the reason I don't do that is everybody's number is different based on your life situation, based on your knowledge of Amazon, based on your risk tolerance. So I'm going to put in 9 and a half%.

各位,在我运行完这个之后,请继续关注,因为我要输入我的个人回报率并向你们解释。所以我点击了分析按钮。股价在260。哇,这很有趣。我的低价是160,高价是607,中间价是320。

主要是因为提高了他们的利润率。如果利润率仍然很低,那将大大改变这个数字。所以基于今天的价格,如果我的中间假设成立,我可以预期12.4%的回报率。

And guys, after I'm done running this one, stay with me because I'm going to put in my personal return and explain that to you. So I hit the analyze button. The stock's at 260. Wow, this is interesting. I have a low price of 160, high price of 607, middle price of 320. Mostly because I increased their profit margin. If that profit margin still stays low, that's going to change this number quite a bit. So based on today's price, I can expect a 12.4% return if my middle assumptions occur.

我问你的问题是,这够了吗?老保罗会说这对我来说够了。新保罗不同了。我的生活发生了很多变化,我意识到我净资产的70%到75%投资于房地产和企业。所以对我来说,去买一只个股,我想要一个非常好的回报。

我的回报要求是多少?实际上是15%。各位,这不应该是你的。我不知道对你来说正确的数字是多少。我以前用12%。现在我在那里说,听着,我只想买一家公司,如果它是一笔非常划算的交易。

所以我输入15%,保持其他所有假设不变。我点击分析按钮,对我来说,我需要一个低价。我的低价是110,高价是400,中间价是215。所以我要把它加入我的观察名单。现在它目前是,我要以230加入我的观察名单。

现在,230的原因是,尽管我的价格是215,在它可能跌到230的这段时间里,基本面可能会变得更好,然后我会坐下来重新计算数字,并卖出现金担保看跌期权,这让我能够买入这家公司,以更低的价格获得报酬来买入这家公司。

The question I have for you, is that enough? Old Paul would have said that's enough for me. New Paul is different. I really had a lot of changes in my life where I realized that 70 75% of my net worth is invested in real estate and businesses. So for me to go buy an individual stock, I want a really good return. What's my return requirement? It's actually 15% now. Now guys, that should not be yours. I don't know what the right one is for you. I used to do 12%. Now I'm sitting there saying, listen, I only want to buy a company if it's a screaming deal. So I put 15% in, kept all my other assumptions the same. I hit the analyze button, and for me, I need a low price. I have a low price of 110, high price of 400, middle price of 215. So I'm going to add it to my watch list. Now it's currently I'm going to add it to my watch list at 230. Now the reason 230 is even though my price is 215 in the time it takes maybe to fall to 230 I might the fundamentals might get better and then I'm going to sit here run the numbers again and sell cash secured puts which allows me to buy the company be paid to buy the company at a lower price.

各位,看看我们最近制作的这个短视频,我们的一位社区成员问了我一个非常非常好的问题,我很喜欢。以下是我的回答。亚马逊。我看亚马逊,我喜欢,我能说伯克希尔吗?但他们并不是真正只做一件事。

我觉得说伯克希尔不公平。如果我要说一家做得非常……我觉得我看亚马逊时会想,哦,那太难了,30年,但亚马逊他们只是……我喜欢杰夫·贝索斯的哲学,我总是试图思考什么不会改变,人们总是想要更便宜和更快。

我只是把亚马逊看作成为首选。我的意思是,看看90年代中期的沃尔玛。蒂姆,你在90年代中期上高中。就像我们都去沃尔玛,那时它占主导地位,现在仍然占主导地位。你明白我的意思吗?它是占主导地位的零售商吗?

不。亚马逊在那里,但它不是一家糟糕的公司。它仍然是一家顶级公司,就像塔吉特一样。塔吉特仍然是首选公司。只是如果你问我第一名,我仍然会押注谷歌或亚马逊。

Guys, check out this reel that we made recently where one of our community members asked me an incredible, incredible question that I loved. And here was my answer. Amazon. I look at Amazon and I love Can I say Bergkshire? But they don't really do one thing. Like I think it's unfair for it to say Bergkshire. If I'm gonna say a business that does like very kind I think I look at Amazon going oh that's so hard 30 years though but Amazon they just make I like Jeff Bezos's philosophy of I'm always trying to think about what's not going to change and people want cheaper and faster at all times. I just look at Amazon as becoming like the go-to. I mean look at Walmart in the mid '90s. Tim, you were in high school in the mid '90s. Like we all went to Walmart like and it was dominant back then and it's still dominant now. You know what I mean? Is it the dominant retailer? No. Amazon's there but it's not like it's a shitty company. It's still a top company just like Target is. Target's still a go-to company. It's just if you're asking me for the number one position, I would still bet on like Google or Amazon.

是的,因为他们不可思议。我的意思是,他们非常以客户为中心。这就是我喜欢他们的地方。尽管他们在过去5年进行了收购,金额达270亿,但这仅占他们过去5年整个当前市值的1%。所以,我并不那么担心这一点。

Yeah, because they're incredible. I mean, they just they're they're they're very customer focused. That's what I like about them. And even though they've made acquisitions over the last 5 years, 27 billion, it's only 1% of their entire current market cap over the last 5 years. So, I'm not as worried about that.

但是,各位,我们都知道,亚马逊远不止这些。这是我10年前艰难学到的。亚马逊远不止这些短期数字。他们在打造一个真正的业务,他们让每个从他们那里购买的人的生活变得更轻松。

But guys, as we all know, there is so much more to Amazon. This is something I learned the hard way 10 years ago. There's so much more to Amazon than just these short-term numbers. They are making a real business, and they they they make life easier for everybody that buys from them.

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亚马逊在每股200美元时值得买入,保守假设5年EPS增长16.1%、市盈率27倍,可带来19.3%的复合回报和2.4倍资金增长。
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亚马逊,这也是一个非常大的仓位。现在,当我们看这三个最大的持仓时,我只想向你们展示它们之间的差距有多小。谷歌占13.8%,万事达卡占13.3%,亚马逊占12.8%。所以它们几乎是等权重的,然后无论它们朝哪个方向交易,无论哪一个表现好一周或一个月,那一个就会跃居首位。

到目前为止,谷歌已经保持了相当长一段时间,但亚马逊最近一直在上升。亚马逊是一个191,000美元的仓位,其中67,000美元是收益。现在,当我看亚马逊时,这只股票的买入目标价是每股200美元。

如果亚马逊先达到200美元,那么这家公司将获得那10,000美元。

Amazon, which is also a very big position. Now, when we look at these top three positions, I just want to show you how close together they are. Google's 13.8%, Mastercard's 13.3, and Amazon's 12.8. So they're almost evenly weighted and then whatever direction they trade, whatever one has a good week or a good month, that one will leaprog to the top place position. So far, Google has held its own for quite some time, but Amazon has been working its way up more recently. Amazon is a $191,000 position, $67,000 of that being gains. Now, when I look at Amazon, the buyin target for this one is at $200 per share. If Amazon reaches $200 first, then this company's getting the $10,000.

当我们看这些假设时,我认为它们有些保守。我们假设亚马逊未来5年每股收益增长16.1%。这是快速的每股收益增长。但请记住,这是亚马逊。他们的每股收益增长得更快。他们有巨大的经营杠杆。

我相信他们比其他我们考虑的公司更处于增长阶段。我相信,对于一家增长如此之快、每股收益增长如此之快的公司,合适的每股收益倍数大约是27。然后当我们结合200美元的买入价来看,我们将在未来五年获得19.3%的复合增长率。

如果这种情况发生,如果亚马逊真的跌到每股200美元,我投入10,000美元,按照这些假设,这笔钱将在未来五年内增长约2.4倍。所以,这将是可能的最佳回报之一。

And when we look at the assumptions that I believe are somewhat conservative. We have Amazon over the next 5 years growing at 16.1% earnings per share. That's fast earnings per share growth. But remember this is Amazon. They've grown their EPS much faster. They have a tremendous amount of operating leverage. I believe they're in more of a growth stage than the other companies that were considering care. I believe that the appropriate EPS multiple for company growing this fast and EPS this fast is around 27. And then when we look at that with the buyin price at $200, we'd get a 19.3% compounded rate of growth over the next five years. If this scenario plays out, if Amazon really traded down to $200 per share and I put $10,000 in with these assumptions, that money would around 2.4x over the next 5 years. So, it would be amongst one of the best returns possible.

如果亚马逊先达到200美元,那么这家公司将获得那10,000美元。

If Amazon reaches $200 first, then this company's getting the $10,000.

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亚马逊的运营论点强劲,但股价已计入大量执行预期;以市现率看估值看似便宜,但由于自由现金流对资本开支的敏感性,可能并非如表面那样便宜。
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亚马逊是我最大的投资,目前从市价对经营现金流比率来看,它看起来便宜,但可能没有我想象的那么便宜。

Amazon is my largest investment, and right now, on a price-to-operating-cash-flow basis, it looks cheap, but it may not be as cheap as I think

亚马逊的经营论点仍然强劲,但股价已经反映了大量的执行力。AWS、广告和AI相关增长的增长。这些是我自己非常看好的东西。资产负债表稳健,而自由现金流对资本支出的敏感度高于表面上的经营现金流。

所以,这让我觉得,与其只看市价对经营现金流比率,我现在需要开始考虑亚马逊的自由现金流,因为他们的大投资周期。所以,这对我来说很有趣。

Amazon's operating thesis remains strong, but the stock price already discounts substantial execution. Growth in AWS, advertising, and AI-related growth. These are the things that I'm a big fan of myself. The balance sheet is robust, while free cash flow is more sensitive to capital expenditures than the headline operating cash flow suggests. So, that right there makes me think instead of just looking at it on a price to operating cash flow basis, I need to now start thinking about free cash flow with Amazon because of their big investment cycle. So, that right there is interesting to me.

它再次涉及竞争优势。它给你一个完整的股票概述,包括资产负债表、管理层质量、估值与增长前景等。我想了解亚马逊如何与英伟达竞争。他们是否与英伟达竞争?再次,给了我一个很好的长答案来深入探讨,但总结是,是的,但亚马逊在AI基础设施栈的选定部分与英伟达竞争,而不是在整个业务中取代英伟达。

亚马逊在哪里与英伟达竞争。首先,在定制AI芯片方面。那是他们的Trainium芯片和Inferentia芯片。然后在云平台竞争方面。

It again goes through competitive advantage. It gives you a full rundown of the stock, the balance sheet, management quality, valuation versus growth prospects, and more. I wanted to learn how Amazon is competing with Nvidia. And are they competing with Nvidia? And again, gives me a nice long answer to dive into, but the summary is that yes, but Amazon is competing with Nvidia in selected parts of the AI infrastructure stack, not replacing Nvidia across the entire business. Where Amazon competes with Nvidia. First, in custom AI chips. That's their Trainium chips and their Inferentia chips. And then in cloud platform competition.

所以,无论如何,想分享这个关于亚马逊的内容。我将提供更多报道,所以如果你对亚马逊感兴趣,请确保关注。

So, anyways, wanted to share this on Amazon. I'm going to provide more coverage, so make sure you follow if you're interested in Amazon

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亚马逊值得买入;尽管贝索斯在减持,但其强劲的盈利使其仍是一只可以持有的股票。
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我非常看好亚马逊的长期前景。杰夫·贝索斯一直在卖出,这推动了股价下跌,但我喜欢亚马逊和微软,它们是七巨头中业绩最好的两家。所以,我认为这些股票目前仍然可以持有。

I like Amazon long a lot. Jeff Bezos has been on the offer that's been driving this thing down, but I like this Amazon and Microsoft were the best two earnings reports out of the mag seven stocks. So, I do think that these are stocks that you can still own at this point.

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名单内的来源在这个窗口里没有说他们在等什么。
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